Whenever a thread gains a little bit of traction, as sure as eggs is eggs, someone will post about how they have absolutely no interest in the subject and probably never will. I have done this myself, I am sure of it.
What propels us to do this? I wonder if it’s because we read a bunch of posts on a thread about (say) Lena Zavaroni and some psychological peer pressure kicks in to have an opinion, any opinion.
It’s as if you are in a pub and everyone in your group is having a long, detailed and spirited yatter about the genius of the deceased M!HMEAMHM. You try to change the subject but it’s Lena this and Lena that. Noticing your lack of engagement, then they fall silent and look at you and ask directly what YOU think. If you’re anything like me, you will say to them “Honestly, I literally have ZERO interest in her or her music! I never have and I probably never will!”.
That is fair enough.
But when you overhear a group conversation that doesn’t interest you – would you make a point of joining the group just to tell them that you’re not interested in what they’re talking about?
If that sounds like you, then this thread is right up your street.
Go on, tell us about something that doesn’t interest you in the slightest. Get it out of your system.
I’ll start. Tap dancing. It entertains the performers far more than the audience. I’m not interested.
I’m tempted to carpet bomb you with thousands of YouTube clips, but I’ll just say I disagree.
I have three daughters that spent about 7 years each at a local dance school. The Christmas show is at least three hours long and 99% of it is not your own kids.
I do actually like dance and choreographed routines but I got thoroughly sick of tap.
Rugby – union, league, Aussie rules, whatever
Competitive cycling
Boxing
Superhero movies
Reality TV
GB News
Angela Rayner’s tax affairs
Everything Van Morrison’s done since 1971.
Lists.
You are 50% right. Or wrong.
With you on all those except rugby (union and league)
Jeff Beck.
Johnny Concheroo, I think it was, started a thread saying ‘everyone had an opinion about Jeff Beck’. I felt compelled, compelled I say, to comment ‘I don’t’, to which I got a fabulously cold ‘Thanks for that’, which made my entire comment worthwhile, attention-seeking little scrote that I am.
sub comment to swipe past
What propels us to do this? I suppose, because this site is many things to many people, for some it is like ‘Early Doors’ or, I imagine, (because I’ve never seen it, just absorbed its influence), ‘Cheers’ – somewhere where no conversation is completely private (apart from the prostitute’s boudoir that is personal messaging).
I’m not sure if dropping a dismissive comment on a thread is anything more then just signalling. We who’ve been here decades (!) know by now many of the usual crew’s tropes, sweet spots, and by omission, no-go areas. (You won’t find any comments from me on a sports thread. You will find me boring for paragraphs on meta threads like this). But for the hundreds and thousands of newbies who flood the site every day, a little signaling helps them to understand which topics and themes tantalize our optic nerves.
Also, yes – ‘psychological peer pressure to have an opinion, any opinion’. If you don’t post or comment, you’re effectively lurking, which makes the Afterworder invisible. The community, the Massive, comes from active contribution, even if not always very constructive.
Yes. This final point.
If there were a predominance of AW threads that didn’t interest you and you therefore ignored them all completely, you’d run the risk of self-relegation to lurkerdom, unless you were inspired to start a thread of your own.
Not being inspired to post a new thread is common enough and not valid grounds for criticism when you express a negative opinion on someone else’s thread.
Additionally, I don’t see a parallel in this Blog/Forum (Blorum) with being an outsider eavesdropping a discussion and therefore not being qualified to comment. We are all in the one group here, if present, and entitled to have our say. Without ever labouring our point, of course.
@salwarpe I recall Concheroo being irked by writing a long form piece involving quite a bit of effort only to elicit some nitpicking comment over a figure of speech sort of thing.
I got in big trouble on FB last year when my secondary school teacher pal was on a union strike march. She posted that unless wages were increased, teachers and students would be faced with “less opportunities” to develop.
I’m no language teacher, but shouldn’t that be “fewer opportunities”? I asked.
Major sense of humour failure… I had to apologise and remove my comment as fellow teachers piled on.
You should have left your comment up there! No wonder standards are slipping – (mumbles of “shame, shame” from the grammar pedants…)
Must try harder, fentonsteve
Unacceptable…
What is unacceptable?
My provoking one of the prefects.
Got it, thanks – I find the indents hard to follow…
Was Concheroo a prefect, then?
I really mean him no malice, but I just can’t help myself, can I? No, of course he want a prefect, just one of the ‘senior members of the club’. Maybe that’s not much better. I don’t want to annoy Junior.
Not annoying me Sal. I think there are 2 sort of camps on the blog. Some who reckon once a post is up, it’s up and anyone can respond how they feel. Fair enough. Others which I think would have included the old Mojo/Concheroo and probably me if I’m honest, is that the effort put into a piece should be respected and responded to accordingly. That sounds a bit pompous and does him and me a disservice but hopefully it conveys the general tenor of things.
….Anecdote. When Mojo switched to Concheroo I was unaware. After quite a few posts from the newer Concheroo, I messaged him and said ,you know there is a bloke ,also in Perth West Australia who has really similar interests to you. I think you’d really get along. The reply I got was “Tis I Mojo ! I still chuckle about that.
” I think there are 2 sort of camps on the blog.”
I’m afraid I’m very much in the first camp. In fact, to be honest, it would never even have occurred to me that the second camp existed. I’ve always thought that, as long as one is friendly and polite (which the majority of people here are), any old waffle, no matter how irrelevant or irreverent, was welcome.
Absolutely!
Thanks for the good natured response, Junior. I did actually respect the long form pieces Mojo Concheroo posted – dispatches from the early years of rock’n’pop. I responded to what I thought was ‘just’ another blog post.
Thanks also for the anecdote. In trying to remember the blighter’s names, I googled and, other than Muddy Water song lyrics, I did find this (first comment):
I did say fair enough to the first camp.
I was never part of his circle in the complex AW Venn Diagram, so our paths rarely crossed. Posting that comment was a bit provocative, and I can completely see why he might be upset at the lack of respect for his efforts.
Mind you, having got little more than tumbleweed for many of my musical researches (Maggie Rogers being only the latest), I’ve long realised posting here is most healthily approached as an activity to amuse the writer – any response, however terse and snark-laden, is a bonus.
Also, I wasn’t nitpicking, I was teasing. It’s important not to take ourselves too seriously..
Hi Sal , Sorry I haven’t commented on the MR – I’ve just acquired it and heard it only the once, but am pretty impressed with what I’ve heard.
I’d be delighted if you chose to put down a few of your impressions – after giving it a good listen, of course. I’ve heard it so much now, the tunes sit rent-free in my head, but I’d love to read another’s perspective.
Wordle
Golf
But combine the two…..
tl;dr
Cars
My Best Friens Girl was the first commercially releases 7″ picture disc
@Rigid-Digit
The seldom heard Tony Montana remix
Think I preferred Are Friends Electric.
I am looking forward to the day when I no longer need one. Lived for many years without one. They are a money pit and a luxury. Know people who still have 2 despite one or more of them working from home or being retired. I don’t get it
I’m moving house next week and one of the reasons I’m really looking forward to the new abode is that I’ll no longer have to be car reliant. I’ll still keep the car for use when necessary (getting to airport, hospital, other towns etc), but supermarket, restaurant, bar, market and beach will now all be within walking distance. Can’t wait.
Good. My current retirement plan is to live in a city with decent public transit, maybe Toronto. It is much more expensive but I will save on the considerable cost of owning a car and will rent out or sell my parking space as I will likely be in a condominium building. Will then use a car share service when necessary for short trips or rent a car for longer ones.
A car is not a luxury when local public transport is crap (and seems to be getting worse) and one’s knees and ankles are wearing out.
OTOH, the money pit comment is accurate enough. I’ve just had to fork out for two new tyres and replacement of a leaking power steering pressure pipe, necessitating the front of the car being removed to get at it and then reassembled. Total bill £724.
I’d like to go electric, but can’t afford to.
“Judas!”
“I don’t believe you! Drive loud!”
There was a time when I would comment “Prog – music for 16 year-old boys who have never left their bedrooms, pretentious drivel to masturbate to” but I’m better than that now.
…but still fundamentally correct
See now, that’s rather left me in a quandry. I’m not 16 and pretentiousness and drivel certainly don’t interest me. But music to masturbate to sounds great.
Bashing the bishop in 7/8 time?
Holy Mother of God
You’ve got to go faster than that to get to the top
So you better start doing it right
Better start doing it right
Don’t think I have ever heard any of their music but you could try Willie and the Hand Jive or Queen’s Flick of the Wrist.
Marvel Franchise
Disney Films
Formula 1
Horseracing
Immigration. No matter how much you tell me that I’m bothered about this, I am not.
Formula 1, Horse racing 2
Immigration 3, Useless Tory government 0
Actually, now you’ve got me started…
Chess
Cricket
Wokeism, and any other made-up aspects of the culture wars
Opera
The royal family. Any royal family.
Madeleine McCann
What happens to us after we’ve been incinerated at the crem
Going on a cruise
Fashion
Anything that I am told is the latest ‘must have’
I have but 5 words on this post: “But what does Retro think”, knowing that is the wood upon which this fire burns. I know this to be true, confirmed by the times my addition can sits sweetly at the bottom, for ever more, a conclusion effectively closing the discussion. Heck, this even has happened when I am the instigator of the post, so if that isn’t proof, what is?
Proof of what? (Sorry…)
Tap dancing. Horse racing. Everything that Hildegard Von Bingen has done since 1171….
There have been many topics mentioned in which I have no interest at all.
But if there’s a topic that someone here really burns for, be it Albanian, pre-war postage stamps,
The Golden Age of Bolivian Animation or the Polyphonic Puffins of the Faroe Islands. I am quite convinced that I could overcome my initial reluctance and give the thread a read.
Lack of interest is not carved in stone.
Polyphonic Puffins of the Faroes. I feel a KFD thread coming on.
Lack of interest is not carved in stone? I’m expecting a Hubes Rawlinson picture proving otherwise.
Couldn’t even be bothered carving the full statement.
But here’s the puffins.
Hate to disappoint @Gary.
Yeah, nice picture of the Polyphonic Puffins. If I’m not mistaken, it was taken at the Big Squawk-Out Festival in Torshavn last year.
You know about the Big Squawk-Out Festival in Torshavn?? You never cease to amaze @duco01!
I know that there’s very little music-making in Stockholm that escapes your attention. But you are now up to speed on the Faroe Islands too!
Well I never! The Faroe Islands have a symphony orchestra! I wouldn’t have thought they had enough musicians to get together a string quartet.
I heard a rumour that their new album, The Polyphonic Puffins Go Orchestral, will be released on ECM in October.
Mrs KFD’s colleague has just been in the Faroes and posted some very fetching photos of Fratercula artica on FB. They are very appealing birds.
A chick is called a puffling!
In Iceland they give the pufflings a helping hand.
Now, If only I can find some tootage of pufflings tap dancing, I may even be able to get Black Celebration to change his mind about Fred and Ginger.
Brilliant Hubert! They are dead ringers for F & G!
Heaven, I’m in heaven
And my heart beats so that I can hardly speak
And I seem to find the happiness I seek
When we’re out together dancing beak to beak!
I would have thought, from the enormous quantity of information on a vast number of subjects, that there was very little you weren’t interested in, KFD.
Thanks for that @Sniffity. It’s true, my curiosity is rather catholic. More catholic than the Pope at times!
Probably a combo of the above …
Formula 1 (and all cars in general), rugby, tennis, horse racing.
Any TV programme classed as entertainment (esp. Reality TV and comedian panel shows).
Peter Kays stand up (but I love Phoenix Nights).
The complete spectrum of LGBT activism and all its current additions.
Fashion.
The Royal family.
I don’t know Peter Kay, but talking of rubbish stand up, I watched Jimmy Carr’s Netflix show recently. I was shocked at how bad and not remotely funny it was. So shocked I had to check out another of his shows on YouTube to see if it was any better. It wasn’t. Excrutiating. How on earth did he get successful?
Jimmy Carr falls back on the Power of shock. In small doses (ie one or 5wo cracks) it can be amusing, but over 60 to 90 min7tes, not so much.
Plus he always looks so smug.
While never a fan of JC’s, I watched a bit of the NF thing while waiting for Mrs J. What was most amazing about it was JC’s cringeworthy attempts to be inclusive and tolerant
Stupid of Corbyn. You can hardly be inclusive if you’re doing a National Front thing.
But more on topic, have you seen Jimmy Carr’s show on Netflix?
Check out Phoenix Nights then.
Just looked and found it’s on dailymotion, so will do, ta.
Completis
Is that a disinterest in ‘completists’ so pure, that you can’t even complete the word?
m. It’s a state of mind common among the AW fraternity that I will not be part of.
that’s beautiful trolling for those who need the final ‘m’ to make up the set.
Collectorism is absolutely rife here at the AW Blorum. An indulgence of the moderately-to-well-heeled, of which I am not one.
I no longer indulge in the collecting of Stuff, having given it up long ago, but I do tend to accumulate Stuff. There is a fundamental difference.
Not in terms of your available space, I suspect…
I’ve just acquired a 5th CD shelving unit, pretty much identical to the 4 that I already had, but of cheaper construction. By the time I’d placed all of the existing overflow into it, I’ve got space for another 10 CDs before there’ll be overflow again.
And these are just the single-artist CDs. The vinyl LPs, 12″s and 7″s, the CD compilations and the magazine converdiscs are separately filed in yet more shelving.
The Marvel universe & all that stuff
I used to work in an office where it felt like everyone but me watched this stuff. It was taxing
You worked in a tax office?
hat duly doffed. well played @JayGee
A lot of stuff here about prog and folk doesn’t interest me in the slightest, however I try every hard not to go on those threads and tell everybody that it is all shit or that things were better in some mythical bygone age.
*very hard
Nice of you…
Tricky, as lack of interest can easily morph into active dislike.
Sport, with a special mention for football
Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, Harry Potter and any other fantasy / superhero movies
Heavy metal and all its various sub-categories
Reality TV
Keith Lemon
Football, did I mention football?
Dance in all its forms
Body piercing, tattoos and other forms of self mutilation / adornment – special mention for men under 30 with beards (straying into active dislike territory there)
Taylor Swift
Fishing
Social media
Football
No, I wouldn’t contribute to a thread about something that doesn’t interest me and I wouldn’t consider that to be lurking, it means you have other interests.
This thread is interesting to me (obviously).
The opinions of actors. Why give any credence to their beliefs just because they excel at pretending to be someone else.
A point made to them, rather brutally, by Ricky Gervais.
I loved that speech. Will always forgive Gervais a lot for having made it.
Speaking as an actor, I would say that the privately expressed opinions of my colleagues are as interesting as those of any other profession.
Those who find themselves pressed into a public statement of their innermost thoughts are on a hiding to nothing. Best be like the great Gambon, and just make up a load of old shit for your own amusement; and to discourage further interrogation.
The problem is luvvies like Emma Tiresome and Benedict Cumofitmate rarely wait until they are “pressed into making public statements” before opening their gobs and showering the rest of us with their ill-informed insights about what is wrong with the world.
BC’s helpfully pointing out that climate change is a bad thing (who knew?) while cheerfully trousering shedloads of money for doing voice overs for expensive Jaguar and MG cars is an excellent example.
ET who famously flew 5,400 miles to lecture the rest of us at an Extinction Rebellion demo is another. Dear, dear Emmy would, of course, rather fly cleanly – but then wouldn’t we all?
Their excuse for their eco-friendly windmill virtue signaling is that they are trapped into their high-carbon footprint lifestyles by something called “the system”.
I find it remarkably disempowering. Celebrity culture permeates the climate process, and detracts from the far more radical notion that everyone should have a voice, everyone’s perspective is vital, and people in positions of visibility are there as much through privilege and happy accident than any innate superiority.
The great Gambon managed to come up with a very good list while trying to avoid tumescence at the hands of the lovely Nurse Mills.
Rap
Reality TV
What you call football
Crystals , wellness and all the Gwyneth Paltrow type stuff
Motor racing
Computer technology
SPORT.
Work related:
Linkedin- sometimes I think it might be the worst thing in the world, other times the funniest
Networking
Jargon
Meetings
Emails
Many colleagues, particularly those active on linkedin
I could probably refine/edit this list down, eg
Work related:
Work
Sport, esp. football.
The last time I went to a BBQ, a couple of fellas came over and asked “You see the match last night?”
“What do you know about Ethiopian jazz?” I replied.
They walked away.
Huzzah!
Erm … I’m a big fan of both Ethiopian jazz AND football…
It wasn’t you, then!
I can’t think of anything interesting to say. 🙁
Possibly not, but fortunately you do think of many, many fascinating things to write, in your many splendid record reviews.
Thank you
Wildlife documentaries. All that sex (copulating) and violence and shitting. I watched all this stuff when I was a kid and it’s more of the same only with better photography.
Video games
Star Wars
Cars
I thought I’d take my time on this one… and then forgot my No. 1 fingers-in-the-ears, ‘not listening, not listening’ subject. If anyone comes into a local society I belong to asking about it, I move them onto someone else, and go out and clean the windows.
Second World War.
Horse racing
Sailing
AFL (that’s Australian football for you lot in the N. hemisphere)
Dogs
Van Morrison
Wagner
Dogs?
You are dead to me, and I suspect a lot of other AWers, Mousey
Perhaps he means the Pink Floyd track?
Or maybe he is a dyslexic atheist and
is using the AW to rail against supreme beings
@Jaygee Hey that’s a bit harsh. Isn’t the world divided into dog lovers and cat lovers? In which case I’m one of the latter. In any case what I think I really meant was people endlessly talking about their dogs. Which is as boring as people endlessly talking about their cats
Men like dogs, women like cats. That’s the rule. Have you never seen War of the Roses? A remake is being made with Olivia Colman as Kathleen Turner and Benedict Cumberbatch as Michael Douglas. Kathleen Turner has put on a lot of weight since that film. I wouldn’t recognise her if I were sat next to her on a bus (which is highly unlikely, as I never travel by bus). Michael Douglas, on the contrary, looks quite gaunt these days. He’s ten years older than Kathleen Turner. One of his children is called Cerys Zeta Douglas. Should really be Cerys Zeta-Jones-Douglas. Her siblings all have the surname Douglas without any mention of Zeta or Jones. Why do children usually take their father’s name? After all, it’s the woman who has to do all the hard work of pregnancy. It seems to me a rather submissive capitulation to the dominance of the male patriarchy.
That’s all I have to say on this subject.
Nah, I like dogs well enough but wouldn’t have one in the house. I’m a cat guy all the way, but it’s probably important that when I was a kid there were always a couple of cats in the house.
@Gary
KT’s weight gain is the result of the steroids she has to take to alleviate the awful pain from the rheumatoid arthritis she was diagnosed with in 1992.
Were you lucky enough to find yourself sitting next to her on a bus, I think you would still recognise her the moment she asked the conductor for a ticket as illness has happily failed to rob her of that incredibly sexy voice
@mousey
@Gatz
While never really a cat person, we have acquired three rescue moggies to go with our two doggies
That’s an unusual breeding programme.
Given that his nose is almost permanently affixed to one of the cat’s backsides, our 2-year old Irish water spaniel (35 kgs and still growing) certainly seems determined to give it a go.
ROFLWMFITA
(just for Hubes)
Must be the elephant in the room as to why me.
Google the letters and see what comes up.
I’d worked it out hence the elephant is waving his feet in the air.
But still why me?
Unless you’re referring to two years ago.
@salwarpe
why you? maybe Google is personalising my search, but I get a double Googlewhack for “ROFLWMFITA” – you and me.
Edit – a new search brings up 4 results, all from theafterword, none with your name. I shall stop tagging you from now on.
Can I copyright this acronym?
That’s what I wax referring to it wax two years ago. Googlewhacks ahoy.
Copyright ©️salwarpe
Was (Not Wax)
Think it’s still a double as the others don’t seem to have it.
Roll On Floor Laughing With My Feet In The Air.
Hey! I worked it out without having to Google. I’m down with the kidz, me.
Well done! My guess was way off. (Richard Osman Found Loose Women Made For Interesting Televisual Art.)
the kidz? Yeah, right. Mind, I still get called ‘young man’, until I take off my flat cap and reveal my bald patch.
Flat cap? Cat flap for me!
I bet you are filthy rich’n’all.
It’s Carys, btw – Pedantic Ed.
RSD.
SDE.
45 RPM remasters.
Complete sessions box sets (with a few very rare exceptions).
Beatle books.
Bowie books.
Springsteen.
Soccer. Particularly Premiership Soccer.
Eurovision, ELO, Abba, Queen. AC:DC, the Beatles, Football, Wordle, anyone and everything I have a perverse and pointless prejudice against. But I reserve the right to besmirch such posts with my vitriolic trollery, provided I make myself snicker.
I like posts about bagpipes, tents, beer, embarrassing ailments and Chumbawamba, preferably all within shared context.
As commented above, it is actually hard to distinguish lack of interest from active dislike!
For instance, I sometimes hear examples of musical genres outside of my usual listening that are great, but I have no interest in pursuing it further mainly due to time constraints and other interests that I do love. Call it laziness or lack of curiosity, but that’s just me.
Most things that I have no interest in are indeed things I actively dislike for a variety of reasons, possibly because I simply can’t watch it, like two people punching each other in a boxing ring. Then there are more nuanced dislikes, like I have no interest in watching people in loud shirts play darts, but I like playing it in a pub sometimes.
I’m not remotely interested in getting a hamper.
The shipping costs would have been alarming.
Would you like a new putter instead?
Tough love!
Local news on the TV. When I was growing up in the North East, BBC Look North was the most tedious thing. Roadworks in Fenham, council corruption, job losses in a warehouse etc etc. All worthy of a presenter standing in the pissing rain somewhere in the arse end of the toon telling you about it.
Same when I left home. BBC London News. Rat plagues in Newham, council corruption etc etc.
Who gives a flying
“Local news on the TV……. North East, BBC Look North” it did lead to Roger Mellie though.
Rugby
Fashion
The Olympics
Cars
Gardening
Weren’t you once fashion conscious enough to wear a Mick Green rugby shirt?
@Tiggerlion
I saw him wearing exactly the same outfit when jogging to his local car showroom
With dirty finger marks from doing the garden.
Peter Green. Not sure it was fashion, zero other people did.
Dr Who. Years of trailers / think pieces / queries from friends who should know me better have not pricked my interest one iota.
Kids Show!
See also:
Harry Potter
Star Wars
I’ll throw in another one – gardening in general and the Chelsea Glower Show in particular. I’m glad the show is there for those who enjoy it, by the appeal of paying to go to a crowded place to look at mocked up gardens eludes me.
I have no interest whatsoever in gardening. My late dad was a very keen gardener, to the extent that as well as the front (roses mainly) and back (veg, fruit and flowers and a bit of lawn) gardens of our 3-bed semi, he had two adjoining allotment patches, one for fruit bushes and one for vegetables. My sister got the gardening gene but it bypassed my late brother and I.
I live in a flat in a block with lawns and shrubbery plus the occasional tree round about, all well-maintained by professionals.
During the latter years of my working life I spent a lot of time driving a company van between maintenance jobs. Radio tuned to BBC R4 because listening to other people’s music choices irritated me. One of the programmes I enjoyed, even without any interest in gardening, was Gardener’s Question Time. A nice restful listen with an excellent team of engaging presenters.
I also have little interest in gardening beyond mowing the grass and keeping the border plants – they beat looking at a brick wall or a fence – under control. Outdoor housework, I call it.
Mrs F comes from a line of professional horticulturalists and has the knowledge, but not the ability, so my role is limited to “where do you want the hole, and how big?”
Invasive caterpillars have killed the hedge in our front garden so I spend half an hour each morning digging up some dead hedge plants while I listen to podcasts. It beats going to the gym.
I also listen to GQT. I ilke listening to the Food Programme as well, even though I can’t eat any of it.
The majority of other peoples’ opinions. I mean I don’t know that much but I know enough to know that many are wrong, Ill informed, unaware of the full facts. Any story in the news that you are knowledgeable about will be found wanting. Ignorance is rife.