I blame global warming!!
Its about 11 deg c here in Lichfield.
Seriously on the global warming front the UK recorded its warmest day on record in December but the next closest one was in 1916. you would think if temperatures are used as irrefutable evidence of global warming that record temperatures would be close together not 105 years apart.
Apparently the last 7 years worldwide were the warmest ever recorded. There will always be outliers. Apparently winter of 1933-34 saw temperatures here of around -38-39 on a number of occasions (not including wind chill) so it’s pretty warm here actually! I believe there were a number of extreme weather events around 100 years ago.
It’s a continuum, you need to look at the years in between. The graphs here show that the overall trend since 1900 for days warmer than the 90th percentile of average temp is upwards, with twice as many such days in 2021 than in 1900. Likewise for number of colder days the trend is downwards. But if you looked at both figures for around 2010, say, you’d be inclined to say ‘What global warming?’ https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/08/27/extreme-temperatures-in-england/
“you would think if temperatures are used as irrefutable evidence of global warming that record temperatures would be close together not 105 years apart.”
I know what you are saying – but I think this shows up a problem with getting complex data across to the masses! (I count myself in that: climate change baffles me but I’m happy to go with the scientific consensus).
I think the problem is the “temperatures used as irrefutable evidence of global warming” bit rather than the “record temperatures would be close together not 105 years apart” bit. In other words, as soon as you say “this is a record today for temperature, so that’s proof of global warming” then it becomes easy to come up with a counter argument.
I agree with you – problem is trying to persuade the masses when the information is so complex and confusing to the layman.
@dai lives in Canada as we all know.
A few years ago I was in London, Ontario in November. The one day it was 21 degrees c which I think was a record high and the next day it was snowing.
They have crazy weather there.
Valley Road in Rickmansworth has a frost hollow. This is caused by the local geography, notably the railway embankment which runs parallel to it’s southern side, preventing the natural drainage of cold air from a specific part of the valley in which it’s situated.
The greatest daily temperature range in England was recorded on 29 August 1936 in Rickmansworth when the temperature climbed from 1.1 °C at dawn to 24.9 °C within 9 hours due to this unusual geographic feature.
Here in Watford, a few miles due East of that, this evening’s temperature is 9°C. It is not currently raining, though it was this morning.
@SteveT Before Christmas there can be reasonably warm days. Jan and Feb are brutal though. It is actually better if temperature stays well below freezing, if it occasionally gets above zero that is normally preceded by a front of freezing rain, and worse case scenario, we get snow then freezing rain followed by normal rain. Then there is a deep freeze and the whole city is covered in ice. London is a bit warmer than here but gets a similar amount of snow, Toronto gets less.
I have a colleague in Chennai, India. We often discuss the weather (just before Christmas he couldn’t get to the office, which is downhill from his house, as it was swimming about in monsoon water).
The other night it hit -5C here, and was still -3C and frosty white when we spoke at 9am. When I told him it was three degrees below outside but the central heating was off for another three hours, his eyes nearly popped out of his head.
The only time he has seen snow is last year in my back garden, via Teams.
Well at 11pm at night here in Singapore it’s +27degC according to my phone.
It was about 30-32degC during the day – the same as pretty much every day in the year (although we did hit a low of 23degC at New Year due to some monsoon rains)
I spent a few days in Singapore and at the time didn’t realise how close it is to the Equator.
Seeing the sun set at high speed is quite something. “Evening” lasts about 3 minutes.
5 degrees, raining on and off. We’re usually spared extreme cold here although north of the South Downs it is noticeably chillier. It is usually bloody windy though which makes it popular with windsurfers etc but not so much with cyclists.
Lovely winter weather here in Lewis Carroll land. Clear winter skies, yet not so very cold at 7 degrees.
Had a two hour WhatsApp with my mate in Brisbane this morning and he shared with me that he was sat there in his shreddies (unsubscribe! unsubscribe!) as it was so stupidly hot.
Around 13° max, down to 6°ish min. But old houses like mine in this neck of the woods were made to keep cool in the summer not to keep warm in the winter. Bloody freezing, ’tis. Log fire ablaze in the living room right now, electric blanket on the bed to be activated later.
It’s been cold, damn cold down here in Southern Softie Home Counties Royal County capital Reading.
Well … not really minus figures but rarely above 5 or 7 (celsius, not fahrenheit if you were wondering).
And it’s rained every day since Christmas Eve – the dampness just makes it feel colder
Pretty damn average (or even above average) for the time of year.
That’s Reading – bang average
Come winter I’ll take cold and sunny over mild but damp any day, especially as my living room is more or less south facing and has floor length windows. So long as it’s sunny I can have the windows open and wear a t-shirt even if there is frost on the ground; if it’s several degrees warmer but overcast outside I’ll be putting on more and more layers inside.
Yeah we get lots of sunny days here in winter. Today was actually beautiful, just don’t be outside in it for more than 5-10 minutes otherwise frost bite is very possible, so windows will remain closed.
It’s a little bit cloudy, but a pleasant summer day. 24 degrees here in Auckland, NZ.
I missed my shins with the sunblock the other day when watching the cricket and I have been in some pain since then, particularly when walking. Always put sunblock on your shins, kids.
Update: Much warmer today, currently -12 and snowing, rising to 0 deg C later. However, we have another arctic blast forecast for the weekend with -27 expected for Fri overnight (wind chill -38).
Was very cold this morning. I decided to drive my daughter to school rather than have her shivering outside waiting for the school bus. Her school is out in the sticks or “boonies:” as they say here. Temperature there was-35C (without wind chill), that’s the coldest I have ever experienced.
SteveT says
I blame global warming!!
Its about 11 deg c here in Lichfield.
Seriously on the global warming front the UK recorded its warmest day on record in December but the next closest one was in 1916. you would think if temperatures are used as irrefutable evidence of global warming that record temperatures would be close together not 105 years apart.
Boneshaker says
How much evidence do you need?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jan/10/climate-crisis-last-seven-years-the-hottest-on-record-2021-data-shows?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
dai says
Apparently the last 7 years worldwide were the warmest ever recorded. There will always be outliers. Apparently winter of 1933-34 saw temperatures here of around -38-39 on a number of occasions (not including wind chill) so it’s pretty warm here actually! I believe there were a number of extreme weather events around 100 years ago.
salwarpe says
I took a bus home yesterday and you’d think it would keep moving all the time, wouldn’t you? But no! It kept stopping and starting again.
mikethep says
It’s a continuum, you need to look at the years in between. The graphs here show that the overall trend since 1900 for days warmer than the 90th percentile of average temp is upwards, with twice as many such days in 2021 than in 1900. Likewise for number of colder days the trend is downwards. But if you looked at both figures for around 2010, say, you’d be inclined to say ‘What global warming?’
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2021/08/27/extreme-temperatures-in-england/
Arthur Cowslip says
“you would think if temperatures are used as irrefutable evidence of global warming that record temperatures would be close together not 105 years apart.”
I know what you are saying – but I think this shows up a problem with getting complex data across to the masses! (I count myself in that: climate change baffles me but I’m happy to go with the scientific consensus).
I think the problem is the “temperatures used as irrefutable evidence of global warming” bit rather than the “record temperatures would be close together not 105 years apart” bit. In other words, as soon as you say “this is a record today for temperature, so that’s proof of global warming” then it becomes easy to come up with a counter argument.
A minefield, this climate change stuff!
SteveT says
I agree with you – problem is trying to persuade the masses when the information is so complex and confusing to the layman.
@dai lives in Canada as we all know.
A few years ago I was in London, Ontario in November. The one day it was 21 degrees c which I think was a record high and the next day it was snowing.
They have crazy weather there.
Mike_H says
Valley Road in Rickmansworth has a frost hollow. This is caused by the local geography, notably the railway embankment which runs parallel to it’s southern side, preventing the natural drainage of cold air from a specific part of the valley in which it’s situated.
The greatest daily temperature range in England was recorded on 29 August 1936 in Rickmansworth when the temperature climbed from 1.1 °C at dawn to 24.9 °C within 9 hours due to this unusual geographic feature.
Here in Watford, a few miles due East of that, this evening’s temperature is 9°C. It is not currently raining, though it was this morning.
dai says
@SteveT Before Christmas there can be reasonably warm days. Jan and Feb are brutal though. It is actually better if temperature stays well below freezing, if it occasionally gets above zero that is normally preceded by a front of freezing rain, and worse case scenario, we get snow then freezing rain followed by normal rain. Then there is a deep freeze and the whole city is covered in ice. London is a bit warmer than here but gets a similar amount of snow, Toronto gets less.
SteveT says
Yes remember being in Lake Simcoe area after an ice storm where all the trees had been sliced in half – never seen anything like it.
Arthur Cowslip says
You lot should try Scotland!
As the mighty Billy Connolly once said about our weather: “If you don’t like it…. then just hang about for five minutes and it will probably change.”
I think yesterday I went through all four seasons in one day, for example.
retropath2 says
All those tenements make for crowded houses.
Arthur Cowslip says
Clever!
bang em in bingham says
a balmy -18 here in downtown Toronto
dai says
You’ve had more snow than us this year so far
bang em in bingham says
yes but its tolerable so far
Moose the Mooche says
Cold enough for a coat but not cold enough for a hat.
Boneshaker says
Fur coat but no knickers?
Moose the Mooche says
Speak for yourself, cheeky.
Beezer says
Meanwhile in Newcastle, t shirts as far as the eye can see.
(Disclaimer: I’m not in Newcastle)
davebigpicture says
Packet of Embassy Regal tucked into the cap sleeve.
retropath2 says
It was possibly 11 degrees in Lich, but the water temp was 9 at Croxall Lake, so enticingly bracing!!
fentonsteve says
I have a colleague in Chennai, India. We often discuss the weather (just before Christmas he couldn’t get to the office, which is downhill from his house, as it was swimming about in monsoon water).
The other night it hit -5C here, and was still -3C and frosty white when we spoke at 9am. When I told him it was three degrees below outside but the central heating was off for another three hours, his eyes nearly popped out of his head.
The only time he has seen snow is last year in my back garden, via Teams.
Today it is +9C.
Chrisf says
Well at 11pm at night here in Singapore it’s +27degC according to my phone.
It was about 30-32degC during the day – the same as pretty much every day in the year (although we did hit a low of 23degC at New Year due to some monsoon rains)
Black Celebration says
I spent a few days in Singapore and at the time didn’t realise how close it is to the Equator.
Seeing the sun set at high speed is quite something. “Evening” lasts about 3 minutes.
davebigpicture says
5 degrees, raining on and off. We’re usually spared extreme cold here although north of the South Downs it is noticeably chillier. It is usually bloody windy though which makes it popular with windsurfers etc but not so much with cyclists.
Sniffity says
20 degrees C at 2.40 am, after a day where it reached 40, and later today expected to get to 37.
I expect it’ll be even hotter in sitheref’s neighbourhood.
Kaisfatdad says
A refreshing minus 2 C here in Stockholm, but the night will be a fair bit colder.
thecheshirecat says
Lovely winter weather here in Lewis Carroll land. Clear winter skies, yet not so very cold at 7 degrees.
Had a two hour WhatsApp with my mate in Brisbane this morning and he shared with me that he was sat there in his shreddies (unsubscribe! unsubscribe!) as it was so stupidly hot.
Gary says
Around 13° max, down to 6°ish min. But old houses like mine in this neck of the woods were made to keep cool in the summer not to keep warm in the winter. Bloody freezing, ’tis. Log fire ablaze in the living room right now, electric blanket on the bed to be activated later.
Izzy says
Minus 2 degrees C here in Slovenia at 18.35 local, 17.35 UK time. Nothing out of ordinary, only snow is missing. Hope everyone is warm.
myoldman says
A pleasant 22 degrees C here at night just now here in Fujairah. Doesn’t get much warmer than that during the day either
Rigid Digit says
It’s been cold, damn cold down here in Southern Softie Home Counties Royal County capital Reading.
Well … not really minus figures but rarely above 5 or 7 (celsius, not fahrenheit if you were wondering).
And it’s rained every day since Christmas Eve – the dampness just makes it feel colder
Pretty damn average (or even above average) for the time of year.
That’s Reading – bang average
Gatz says
Come winter I’ll take cold and sunny over mild but damp any day, especially as my living room is more or less south facing and has floor length windows. So long as it’s sunny I can have the windows open and wear a t-shirt even if there is frost on the ground; if it’s several degrees warmer but overcast outside I’ll be putting on more and more layers inside.
dai says
Yeah we get lots of sunny days here in winter. Today was actually beautiful, just don’t be outside in it for more than 5-10 minutes otherwise frost bite is very possible, so windows will remain closed.
Pajp says
Minus 2°C here in Budapest (local time: 20.45) and due to be minus 7°C by dawn tomorrow.
Brrrrr! Still, the days are sunny.
Junior Wells says
Beat that @Dai. Oh sure , easy 32degrees . Lovely beach day.
Oh sorry ! You mean minus celsius!
My bad. Now where did I put my sun hat ?
dai says
We’ll get that in about 4 to 5 months!
Pajp says
By my reckoning @dai deserves at least 4 “Brrrrs” for his minus 27. That is cold! Real “no going out” weather.
Black Celebration says
It’s a little bit cloudy, but a pleasant summer day. 24 degrees here in Auckland, NZ.
I missed my shins with the sunblock the other day when watching the cricket and I have been in some pain since then, particularly when walking. Always put sunblock on your shins, kids.
Sitheref2409 says
Daytime highs of 43-45C
But at least it’s a dry heat.
dai says
Yikes!
dai says
Update: Much warmer today, currently -12 and snowing, rising to 0 deg C later. However, we have another arctic blast forecast for the weekend with -27 expected for Fri overnight (wind chill -38).
simon22367 says
Mid 20’s and absolutely chucking it down in Stanwell Park near Sydney.
dai says
Seems to rain a lot there
Mike_H says
2°C (feels like it too) and sunny here. Last night’s frost slowly burning off.
dai says
Luxury
dai says
Was very cold this morning. I decided to drive my daughter to school rather than have her shivering outside waiting for the school bus. Her school is out in the sticks or “boonies:” as they say here. Temperature there was-35C (without wind chill), that’s the coldest I have ever experienced.