So for years people keep retweeting this picture of the Bullingdon Club. Which was basically Cameron, Johnson and Osborne in ludicrous dress with an undertone of ‘strange things have happened while these young men who are our leaders were dressed like this’. So now it come out that strange things have happened indeed.
And?
(full disclosure: I am not a Brit, I couldn’t give a damn if my PM would, like, marry a pig or something)
I’m slightly curious why this appeared in the Daily Mail. I know that circulation is the bottom line, but I thought they were fundamentally loyal to the current government.
I think many people in positions of influence would like to see ‘GQ Politician of the Year’ George Osborne at the helm. Perhaps sooner rather than later…
It has crossed my mind in the last couple of weeks that Corbyn’s election might precipitate a Tory swing to the right, which, in turn, will evacuate the all-important centre ground.
Who would have the will to occupy it is another matter.
Makes more sense to appear to be more moderate in order to woo those put off Labour by Corbyn. The so-called living wage policy was nicked off Labour after all.
Would make waaaaaay more strategic sense. But the party is to the right of Cameron and may now feel that they can have a leader who is more in tune with their views.
Not sure it’s anything too complex. They knew it would attract a lot of interest. Daily Mail, sex scandal involving politician? Natural territory whatever party it may be. They know it won’t bring down the government. It was going to be all over the internet anyway, they might as well get their share.
It’s not really a conspiracy though, is it? It’s public knowledge that Osborne will take over sometime before the next election. Cameron has said he won’t stand again. If, as the Orator piece suggests, it’s an attempt to distract attention from Osborne’s scrapping of free school meals, why do it now?
Seems to me the most likely explanation in that the Mail took the story because if they didn’t someone else would, and Cameron is yesterday’s man so no harm done.
Pig jokes aside, I don’t really see it as a big deal. I remember a friend of mine having to do something similarly undignified to get into his university rugby society.
It’s funny watching the left trying to make a bigger deal of it than it is, especially as they’ve spent the last few weeks loudly trumpeting the arrival of a new kind of politics.
I kind of see what you mean, but as I say above, dignity is all. And it’s rather an unshakable image, isn’t it? Cameron and his government have done many things more damaging to the country and its people than interfere with a dead pig (allegedly), but this is the one which is likely to stick.
What I find most disappointing is his choice of listening material when stoned. Supertramp, for God’s sake! How embarrassing. I thought he was supposed to be intelligent.
. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – bumped into them walking down Broad Street . . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – just been thrown out of the KIng’s Arms . . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – why not come to lunch, Rowley?. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – youthful indiscretions. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – and despite being banned from everywhere within 15 miles of college. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – private dining rooms. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – the most damnable thing on the table. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – TWO EYES – staring at me – and a quite remarkable quantity of apple sauce. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr. . .
It restores your faith in human nature to hear about someone like Michael Ashcroft. When someone tells him something, he doesn’t question their motives, ask for corroboration from others, or ask to see a photo. He simply puts his trust in them and believes what he’s been told.
He sounds like the kind of person who can help me with a bit of a financial problem. I just need access to the bank account details of someone in Britain, or Belize, so I can temporarily transfer some money into it. Does anyone have his email address?
I’m coming round to the view that Ashcroft has included the pig story as a deliberate allusion to LBJ. He knows Cameron won’t sue because of a) the embarrassment factor and b) the fact that Ashcroft has genuine dirt in reserve.
His friends will rally around for him and imply his silence shows how dignified and regal he really is. I’m more interested in what Dennis Skinner has to say in the House of Commons.
So for years people keep retweeting this picture of the Bullingdon Club. Which was basically Cameron, Johnson and Osborne in ludicrous dress with an undertone of ‘strange things have happened while these young men who are our leaders were dressed like this’. So now it come out that strange things have happened indeed.
And?
(full disclosure: I am not a Brit, I couldn’t give a damn if my PM would, like, marry a pig or something)
Whenever Cameron brings up anything in Corbyn’s past, all he’s got to do is wink at Dave and say, with a massive grin, “oink! oink!”.
Like Edmund Blackadder does to Lord Melchett: “Baaaaa!”
I’m sure all those who bemoaned the Corbyn/Abbott story last week will be similarly aggrieved by this one.
No place for this sort of gossip-mongering in the Nu-Politics.
I’m slightly curious why this appeared in the Daily Mail. I know that circulation is the bottom line, but I thought they were fundamentally loyal to the current government.
I think many people in positions of influence would like to see ‘GQ Politician of the Year’ George Osborne at the helm. Perhaps sooner rather than later…
I suspect that with Corbyn leading Labour, they’ve decided that the Tories can afford to have someone less emollient in charge.
This seems the logical interpretation.
It has crossed my mind in the last couple of weeks that Corbyn’s election might precipitate a Tory swing to the right, which, in turn, will evacuate the all-important centre ground.
Who would have the will to occupy it is another matter.
Makes more sense to appear to be more moderate in order to woo those put off Labour by Corbyn. The so-called living wage policy was nicked off Labour after all.
Would make waaaaaay more strategic sense. But the party is to the right of Cameron and may now feel that they can have a leader who is more in tune with their views.
Perhaps but Osbourne is smart enough not to veer right. No other leader would be likely.
Not sure it’s anything too complex. They knew it would attract a lot of interest. Daily Mail, sex scandal involving politician? Natural territory whatever party it may be. They know it won’t bring down the government. It was going to be all over the internet anyway, they might as well get their share.
It has been suggested that Paul Dacre has not been knighted or anything like that and he feels slighted.
Interesting suggestions – thanks, everyone. I found the following two articles online today.
the first a bit conspiracy theory-ish
http://www.robfahey.co.uk/blog/the-pm-the-pig-and-musings-on-power/
the second more in tune with the ‘Osbourne is next in line, bury bad news’ kind of approach
http://the-orator.co.uk/2015/09/pig-gate/
It’s not really a conspiracy though, is it? It’s public knowledge that Osborne will take over sometime before the next election. Cameron has said he won’t stand again. If, as the Orator piece suggests, it’s an attempt to distract attention from Osborne’s scrapping of free school meals, why do it now?
Seems to me the most likely explanation in that the Mail took the story because if they didn’t someone else would, and Cameron is yesterday’s man so no harm done.
Tsk. Missed the glaring “no ham done” opportunity at the end there.
Made a pig’s ear of it, didn’t I?
The bizarre nature of the story does make me wonder who was involved in its publication and whether the timing was fortuitous or planned.
Having said that, I’m quite willing to accept that it was a a case of cock up, rather than conspiracy.
Apparently there’s a reception at No. 10 tonight for the Danish Prime Minister.
It may not be the wisest choice of visitor for a reception but to cancel now would be an even rasher decision.
Come on, lads. Be fair. Who among us hasn’t had their cock in a ………
No 10 are apparently ‘not dignifying the reports’ with a response. Does this mean they think he’s telling porkies?
And when it comes to this story, dignity is all.
Pignity more like.
He’s been living high on the hog ever since.
Makes one proud to be British.
It’s purely honked up, isn’t it?
Though there should surely be a hat-tip to LBJ?
Dude sexually assaulted a pig. Most strange….
Makes ‘snouts in the trough’ tame, almost acceptable, by comparison.
In fact, Ianess may have a point about this. It it a ‘British thing’ – add sheep, goats, etc. God the Bullingdon clan were an adventurous lot.
Pig jokes aside, I don’t really see it as a big deal. I remember a friend of mine having to do something similarly undignified to get into his university rugby society.
It’s funny watching the left trying to make a bigger deal of it than it is, especially as they’ve spent the last few weeks loudly trumpeting the arrival of a new kind of politics.
I kind of see what you mean, but as I say above, dignity is all. And it’s rather an unshakable image, isn’t it? Cameron and his government have done many things more damaging to the country and its people than interfere with a dead pig (allegedly), but this is the one which is likely to stick.
There was a moment last night when I thought it could lead to him stepping down, but I think he’ll ride it out.
You don’t think he’s still for the chop?
You reckon he’s still feeling perky then?
Ha. That’s probably one of the best I’ve seen.
It was dead pig? Gross.
*pbstos*
Will nobody think of the children?
http://i1122.photobucket.com/albums/l522/davebigpicture/peppa.jpeg
Well, somebody squealed.
What I find most disappointing is his choice of listening material when stoned. Supertramp, for God’s sake! How embarrassing. I thought he was supposed to be intelligent.
I may have been critical of her in the past, however I think that the First Minister captures the mood of the country here:
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af344/embraman/ns1.jpg
Ahem…
Crackling story, Gromit.
I await with wearycertainty the Diane Abbott fightback gags .They just won’t be able to stop themselves, will they?
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/GCU_Grey_Area/rb-1_zps5olwfhqp.jpg
. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – bumped into them walking down Broad Street . . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – just been thrown out of the KIng’s Arms . . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – why not come to lunch, Rowley?. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – youthful indiscretions. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – and despite being banned from everywhere within 15 miles of college. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – private dining rooms. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – the most damnable thing on the table. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr – TWO EYES – staring at me – and a quite remarkable quantity of apple sauce. . . errrr-stt-merrr-mmmmmhrrrr. . .
There’s snout to see here. Trott along.
Wee wee wee. All the way home.
“The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
It restores your faith in human nature to hear about someone like Michael Ashcroft. When someone tells him something, he doesn’t question their motives, ask for corroboration from others, or ask to see a photo. He simply puts his trust in them and believes what he’s been told.
He sounds like the kind of person who can help me with a bit of a financial problem. I just need access to the bank account details of someone in Britain, or Belize, so I can temporarily transfer some money into it. Does anyone have his email address?
I’m coming round to the view that Ashcroft has included the pig story as a deliberate allusion to LBJ. He knows Cameron won’t sue because of a) the embarrassment factor and b) the fact that Ashcroft has genuine dirt in reserve.
His friends will rally around for him and imply his silence shows how dignified and regal he really is. I’m more interested in what Dennis Skinner has to say in the House of Commons.
Trust he won’t be singing this at Christmas
This more than anything shows the level of treachery people like Ashcroft will stoop to. Honestly, I think Ashcroft is the dangerous lunatic here.
Indeed. He seems genuinely affronted that his £millions donations did not result in a Cabinet post. Extraordinary.
From today’s Guardian – Charlie Brooker insists that he did make it up, and he’d have been ‘screaming it into traffic’ rather than writing fiction if he had known: http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/shortcuts/2015/sep/21/pigs-prime-minister-black-mirror-ashcroft-allegation-charlie-brooker