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Neil Young is better than Bob Dylan
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Better songs that the ‘common’ people know
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But I might be wrong.
Yes but that voice. Like cheesewire across the ballbag.
Not that Bob’s is any pleasanter.
His voice is part of his attraction for me.
Well, far be it from me to kink shame.
What is ‘kink shame’?
When you take someone with a “dark brown voice” home and they are not who you thought they were.
Like a bawbag on a cheese wire he has tried in his way to be free.
Think Diddley has just won the coveted(?) “Best Comment Ever Ever” award. Hats thrown in the air
No he’s not.
Also, this. He just isn’t. If he were, he’d have the same stature. As it is, your average person will probably say “Neil who?” and be about right. NY is of interest to a tiny minority who like a certain thing. Bob Dylan, like him or not, is for the ages. (Though even then, in 50 years he’ll be roughly as culturally courant as Benny Goodman is now.)
I would probably query the ‘tiny minority’ aspect of this.
At what?
Mini golf
Monopoly
If we’re talking model trains, Shakey beats Zim hands down.
Although Shakey versus Sir Roderick of Stewart would be a close run thing.
Dylan rules the 60s, particularly in the 65-66 period when Neil had hardly started
Neil rules the 70s
80s were pretty awful for both – Neil edges it
90s – Neil
Post 2000 – Bob
Live – Neil
A good thing nobody other than boomers has bothered making music…
Are you the editor of Rolling Stone by any chance?
Translation?
Peth da does neb heblaw ffyniant wedi trafferthu creu cerddoriaeth…
Ydych chi’n olygydd Rolling Stone ar unrhyw siawns?
Na. Jyst yn rhywun sy’n credu fod Dylan yn well ar pob lefel.
My dad’s bigger than your dad.
The music I like is better than the music you like.
…..controversial….
But you are a ginger drummer from Hull.
I guess you like everything.
Apart from sunlight and sobriety, yes.
I can agree with both of those!
I wondered who that was getting drunk with me in this darkened room. I won’t say I’m disappointed, but I’m already drafting a stiff* letter to the escort agency.
(*hurrr)
I like both but I guess I listen to Neil far more – there’s more of an emotional edge and I love the work with Crazy Horse. But Dylan in the 60s was sensational. He was dire live though.
Bloody brilliant at Blackbushe, I thought.
(see: Live At Budokan)
Not a great one, Budokan, Live 1966 and 1975 in The Bootleg Series are essential though. Neil wins for consistency over 50 years though.
Oh yeah, the boots are ace. I just mentioned Budokan ‘cos the setlist is very closely aligned to that at Blackbushe.
I see. Wasn’t at Blackbushe, my first show was in 81 (religious revival) and for Neil in 82 (Trans), so both fairly atypical, enjoyed both shows though.
Dylan electric ’66? Terrific stuff. See also Rolling Thunder Review and 79/80 Gospel era.
In terms of albums, Dylan has been improving since the 80s, markedly. I don’t even know what NY has been doing since the 80s. The last one of his I heard was that sort of electronic sci-fi type album he did in the 80s. Awful.
And, on Murder Most Foul, Dylan must be the first to have used a tele-prompter as a as a piece of studio equipment.
When that track emerged, for a glorious second I thought he’d covered the theme from a Dawn French sitcom…. but no, that was Murder Most Horrid.
Would you put it past him though? I wouldn’t. Owd Berb.
Suggest you give Freedom, Ragged Glory and Sleeps With Angels a few listens. @chinstroker
“This note’s for you” is excellent too.
You are right
OK
Just listening to Sleeps With Angels at the moment.
Yes, not at all shabby.
Glad you are giving it a try
As I’ve never heard an album by either of them I couldn’t possibly comment….
Project for 2022.
Shouldn’t there be a reciprocal deal whereby one of the AW’s many ‘brown music by boomers’ specialists spends a year listening to twelve albums by Depeche Mode or somesuch? Having a foot in both camps, I’m not volunteering.
Deramdaze on the works of Stock Aitken and Waterman please…
“No hits!”
Funnily enough I’m not totally anti them… they are what you see on the box… they wanted to be the toppermost of the poppermost.
Don’t want to listen to it, of course!
It’s the ones that don’t want to be the toppermost of the poppermost I have a problem with.
Dreary ol’ Clapton leaving the Yardbirds would be a good example.
Got far more time for George Michael than the smiths.
Even Quoasis… I mean I soooo never want to hear any of it, but you can’t deny that Noel Gallagher wanted to shift product.
All that “‘aving it large” gobshite.
“That’s” the business.
Ask the fat guy with the big cigar at Sony what he’d want – someone reckoned by BBC6 or someone who sells records.
My dad once said that bands who don’t want to be on Top of the Pops should have their instruments impounded by the government.
The Smiths were very much committed to appearing on TOTP, actually.
I met them a few times. Nice lads but I’d rather have my teeth removed than have to listen to 12 of their albums.
2022? At one album a month, it’ll take Dave three centuries to get through them all.
@Dave-Amitri
Here is some Neil from the 80s, most of his stuff is like this …
Thanks @dai Will give it a listen..
Start with the first disc of Decade. Or Freedom. If you can’t get anything from either of those, (this) Shakey ain’t for you.
As for Bob: We are the world, we are the chilllllllllllldren….
»…Here is some Neil from the 80s, most of his stuff is like this …«
I don’t think so. Out of twelve albums released in the 80s, there’s only four tracks on one of those LPs with that (great) Kraftwerk-meets-Devo sound.
Yeah, it was a joke.
Are you on the wrong site Dave?
I want more posters like Dave (and me) on here standing up for pop music post-1980. Otherwise there would be no escape from the absolute sea of threads about box sets or The Beatles or “please post 3 youtube videos on this subject”.
Love post punk music myself. Much more into the 80s (with exceptions) than the 70s. Kind of lost interest in UK pop around 1985-6 though.
I’m on that team too. Although I also love The Beatles and a lot of 70s stuff.
Agreed, and whilst we’re at it, genuinely, how about some pre-pop/rock as well?
Dont understand your point MC I spend a ridiculous amount of money on new current music. My post was meant to be whimsical in that Neil Young and Bob Dylan are amongst the favourites of many on here.
No worries, as you say it is a broad church here.
Often thought that Steve but on one of the Bowie threads I wrote that I’m a music civilian. Moose kindly told me that I’m same army, different regiment. I like that 👊
I like that too – my comment was only tongue in cheek by the way.
The site is a broad church and all the better for it.
Agreed. Both great, but I cherry-pick Bob albums. With Neil I need everything.