Or so it would seem according to quotes from a Canadian interview. Does this mean I have to send her latest record back? Perhaps other readers can advise.
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We’re a few days late coming to this, I think… when I was browsing through the original “Twitterstorm” (sorry), my 2 thoughts were:
1) if we thought La Bush was private and averse to interviews before, this will probably ensure she never speaks publicly ever again, and
2) why the surprise? Surely simple maths tells us that around half of all pop stars/entertainers/whatever are Tories, and you can probably even skew that upwards to allow for the fact that they’ll be far wealthier than most of us here, and for the likelihood that a certain percentage of public Labour supporters will vote Tory once in the voting booth…
She didn’t say she’s a Tory (she may be), I think it was more about the competence of that particular woman to do her job. Of course in the past she wrote and sang a complementary song about Ken Livingstone. She truly lives on a different plain to the rest of us.
Given the Red Wedge mob’s success rate is somewhere between Arsenal’s in Europe and QPR’s at Nottingham Forest, this is fantastic news to anyone who wants to see a Labour Government.
The rule of thumb seems to be….Weller supports x, 100,000 citizens immediately switch to y (see also Madonna/Clinton).
All we need is for Morrissey to pipe up (inevitable), and I’m off down the bookies.
Moz is more if a Kipper, if his recent pronouncements in Brexit are anything to go by:
“As for Brexit, the result was magnificent, but it is not accepted by the BBC or Sky News because they object to a public that cannot be hypnotised by BBC or Sky nonsense. These news teams are exactly the same as Fox and CNN in that they all depend on public stupidity in order to create their own myth of reality. Watch them at your peril!”
Moz is more of an incoherent commentator than the Orange One, if you ask me.
What does he make of those UKIP candidates from Asian backgrounds?
According to my legal advisers, absolutely nothing at all.
Oops, in my excitement I spelt Theresa incorrectly.
That, as any fule kno, is someone completely different
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/teresa-glamour-model-who-appeared-8398810
Hey – Smash My Boris Up is twenty years old. Are we sure they’re not one and the same..?
Communist!!!!
Oh noes! Someone who thinks something different to me! Kill it with fire!
How dull it would be if all the writers, musicians, directors etc that I enjoy shared all my viewpoints. Conversely, there are artists whose deeply felt political convictions I do share, whose music I find unlistenable. For example, Screaming Lord Sutch.
Sadly the feeling isn’t reciprocated according to the Daily Mash.
http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/arts-entertainment/theresa-may-thinks-kate-bush-is-shit-20161130118115
I bet Mozzer thinks the Mash is a reliable and sound source of current affairs info, with absolutely no reliance upon public stupidity.
Looking at all the huffing and puffing on the KB fan pages, there’s an assumption that Kate is still a naive ingenue who was somehow bullied into a corner to elicit a ‘controversial’ response by the nasty journalist. I think this does a great disservice to her as a mature and intelligent woman who has been in the industry for decades and should be well aware of how the media works, and how much interest, bordering on hysteria, there is around her every utterance.
Like others, I don’t share her admiration of the Leaderene, but it makes no difference whatsoever to my feelings about her as an artist.
Right, I’m gonna go listen to some Kate – The Whole Tory, followed by Article 50 Words For Snow,,,
Don’t forget The Hounds of Gove (not as good as yours, but we’re back on Afterword safe ground with puns).
Running Up That Phil Hammond?
Amberrudd Girl?
Mother Theresa Stands For Comfort?
I Still Dream Of Oliver Letwin
Hammond Horror, endless fun…
“If I only could, I’d make a deal with Gove, and I’d get him to swap our places…”
Given the subject of the original song that puts a truly horrible image in the mind.
More like Barmy Dreamers
Leaving…
in, out
in, out
in, out
out
out
Out.
You can sleep in the sticky patch.
Well this isn’t in the same league as Loretta Lynn supporting Trump. I’ll still listen to her music (Loretta) albeit with a faint twinge of regret.
How about Ted Nugent? Or is the regret at having listened to Ted Nugent, rather than his politics?
I had never heard Ted Nugent’s music, but just been on Youtube and heard a few seconds of Stranglehold – definitely regretted that!
Whaaaat? I spent my teen years idiot dancing to Stanglehold at the Electric Circus before punk spoiled it. Masterpiece!
Ted Nugent was alright when he was leading the Amboy Dukes before he became a right wing gun toting nut job. Remember with fondness Journey to the Centre of my mind – a great song to smoke a spliff too back in the day followed by The Pink Fairies. Oh what joy.
And they did a fine version of Baby Please Don’t Go too, somewhere between Van and AC/DC with a bit of Hendrix thrown in.
@Twang is indeed correct. A solid gold classic.
And an excuse to post this – what Nug would sound like if crossed with a Beastie Boy
I don’t find it surprising that Loretta Lynn supported Trump, but judging by what Black Type reports further up the thread, a few of Kate’s fans seem unwilling to countenance that Kate might actually believe what she is quoted as saying.
I’m now glad I downloaded her Christmas album for nothing. Perhaps it should renamed “It’s KKK-Kris Kringle!” Goodwill to all rich white men!
If we are getting our political views from pop stars we are doing politics wrong. And yes I do include The Clash (though I might make an exception for Billy Bragg).
Far more importantly, in the interview she gets her vote in early for The Afterword album of the year poll. Some record called Blackstar apparently.
Lacking a profound masterplan myself I can’t think of anyone (in music, arts or real life) who I think better of because because of their strong political views of whatever stripe….”why must you tell me all your secrets…”
I can’t really think of anyone whose politics have put me off, and Bush’s certainly don’t – if there was an election tomorrow the Conservative Party would, in all likelihood, win comfortably. However, I can think of a few cases where something someone has said or done has made me think more highly of them.
Perhaps childishly, I always find it quite admirable when a person sacrifices material gain for principle – something I don’t think we see enough of these days. On that note, I’d point to J.K Rowling (who, whatever your politics, clearly takes seriously her responsibilities to her audience) and Alan Moore, whose refusal to accept millions of dollars in respect of terrible moves made of his work strikes me as almost entirely excellent.
Actually, I tell a lie. I really liked the production of this year’s ANOHNI album, but the juvenile lefty politicking of the lyrics really, really put me off.
actually I think quite highly of JK too for all sorts of reasons….
“Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes.”
QED.
I think she also responded to an inspirational quote about following your passions, wrongly attributed to her – by saying that she wings it, and always has.
As a footnote, I owe Raymond an apology. He mentioned this subject in a post yesterday which I missed and would otherwise have at least referenced.
How do I put this? I think we sometimes credit our more visionary and creative artists with mystical all-seeing and all-knowing powers across the board. One of my very favourite artists, whose music changed my life, will cheerfully (for him) acknowledge that he has very little to contribute about many political issues. He sees his job as simply producing the best music he can.
I’m talking about Gary Numan – don’t laugh.
Spot on! I literally couldn’t give two shits who rock stars vote for or whether they approve of fox hunting (PJ Harvey etc) or whatever. I’ll judge them by what they sing about and what they play (which rules out the likes of Skrewdriver obviously).
I’m not going to stop listening to Kate Bush because she likes Tezza any more than I’m going to stop listening to Gary Numan or Roxy Music. On the flipside of that I’m not going to stop listening to Robert Wyatt’s records just because he’s a mate of George Galloway.
Mark E Smith is a classic case- he spouts some utter crap, treats people appallingly and expresses some very dodgy opinions (probably a pissed wind-up which he probably forgets in the morning) – I’ve no desire to meet the man or be his friend but I love his music and will still go and watch his gigs.
Speaking of pissed-up rants, Elvis Costello appears to have come out of his racist incident relatively unscathed, while that other EC , Slowhand, is still castigated for his indiscretion to this day. Only recently I heard him being slagged off on BBC five live. Yet again it’s one law for angry post punk speccy songwriters and another law for God.
I’m nearly with you there – but Eric’s outburst was lengthy and nasty and about as racist as you can possibly be. If one of my heroes had said it, it would have broken my heart. Which directly contradicts what I said up there – but what can you do?
I was thinking more in the vein of voting Conservative or liking Michael McIntyre.
…or even worse, owning a box set of Mrs Brown’s Boys.
What did EC actually say? Is there a link which contains the full context?
Which EC? Here’s the Clapton link:
Blimey. Still shocking. What a total hypocrite given his lucrative and career-enabling musical appropriation. One very confused young man.
Good grief. That’s horrific.
Then again I read one of his biogs – circa 2000 – and towards the end of the book he could not have tried harder to come across as a smug shit of an individual.
Wait… he reiterated those views in 2004 and 2007?
He did? How?
Does this refer to the other EC?’
(God there’s a lot of EC’s about today)
I dunno – it says so in the link.
Good God. That is truly shocking. (Thanks Bingo – didn’t realise you had to click the link).
Nor was he such a young man at that time and is no less excusable.
I’d like to see real evidence of this supposed reiteration. An unsupported statement on an archived Reddit blog doesn’t prove anything. As far as I’m aware, Clapton has repeatedly disavowed and apologised for a drunken rant.
Reprehensible if true, but I’m not convinced yet.
Agreed. The Reddit link doesn’t provide much more info, so I had a quick Google and (for what it’s worth) found this:
http://rockaliser.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/eric-claptons-evil-speech.html
“In a 2004 interview with Uncut, Clapton referred to Powell as “outrageously brave”, and stated that his “feeling about this has not changed”, because the UK is still “… inviting people in as cheap labour and then putting them in ghettos.” In 2004, Clapton told an interviewer for Scotland on Sunday, “There’s no way I could be a racist. It would make no sense”. In his 2007 autobiography, Clapton called himself “deliberately oblivious to it all” and wrote, “I had never really understood or been directly affected by racial conflict… when I listened to music, I was disinterested in where the players came from or what colour their skin was. Interesting, then, that 10 years later, I would be labelled a racist… Since then, I have learnt to keep my opinions to myself. Of course, it might also have had something to do with the fact that Pattie had just been leered at by a member of the Saudi royal family.” In a December 2007 interview with Melvin Bragg on The South Bank Show, Clapton reiterated his support for Enoch Powell and again denied that Powell’s views were “racist”.”
Stop being so negative about this great British export. He was just ahead of his time. Get with the program! You Bremoaners need to shut up forever.
Funnily enough, there are a few people in the comments section of the link above suggesting, quite vociferously, that Clapton was, in fact, ahead of his time and in possession of some good ideas whose moment has now well and truly arrived.
In fairness to Eric, I can distinctly recall frequently applying for minimum wage jobs only to find myself undercut by members of the Saudi royal family. And there is no doubt that they are only to be found in ghettos ( Knightsbridge, for example)
In the interest of balance, here’s an account of the other so-called racist incident by the other EC. Less outwardly nasty than Eric’s meltdown, but Elvis does use the “n” word twice, so he loses points for that.
http://ultimateclassicrock.com/elvis-costello-racist-remarks/
There are two aspects that interest me. Firstly, it seems clear that some of Kate’s fans are sufficientry bothered by what was reported thathat they feel compelled to explain it away in some way. Secondly, I don’t doubt what people say here about not being put off artists. But I wonder if some at least of these artists would have reached the same levels of popularity if their views or behaviour had been better known earlier in their career.
Theresa May is 8 years younger than fellow Tory Lynsey de Paul would be, were she still with us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htBfNPyKKoI
I think it unwise to care about a musician’s politics. They are almost always incoherent, inconsistent, self-serving, and affected. A bit like our own.
and me
Don’t be so hard on yourself, anton. You’re generally quite coherent.
Define ‘generally’
That’s where the inconsistency comes in…