Very simple. Post the different – maybe even superior – album version of a track we know well from the single/radio version. Obviously not if they are exactly the same. But from ooooh lets say the mid-sixties when albums really got going to the end of the eighties a surprising amount of tracks were chopped down/re-edited to fit radio formats. Here’s one that I am guessing you know from its endless airplay, but check out the last minute when Quincy’s band appear to say ‘enough with the yelps Michael, time for us to groove’.
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The obvious answer is this:
Beautiful South – Don’t Marry Her
The song itself is the same, although the backing track sounds somehow cleaner (?).
This is one of the many radio edits that exist to get rid of naught words, but some still make it through. The Jam’s Thats Entertainment (“pissing down with rain on a boring Wednesday”) and Funeral Pyre (“pissing themselves laughing”) can be heard freely on Radio 2 (albeit, not that often).
As do The Rolling Stones on Start Me Up (“You make a dead man come”).
There are two good examples of this of the first TBS album. Song For Whoever is extended rather bonkersly, and the great Sail This Ship Alone was rerecorded for 45. The single version – and therefore the one on Carry On Up The Charts – is not anything like as good.
In a related band, check out the radically different single and LP versions of the Housemartins’ Flag Day.
The Beatles re-recorded Revolution for The White Album (or was it the other way round?), but I’ve always preferred the version on the B-Side of Hey Jude
Single version – short. Album version – longer. Right?
Wrong.
The Sweet – Fox On The Run.
Thumping drums, guitars turned up to 11 and no keyboard on the Desolation Boulevard version
(and this time with the YouFace link)
A few spring to mind. The single version of “Heroes” lacks the best verse; the single version of Meatloaf’s ‘You Took The Words Right Out Of My Mouth’ doesn’t have the spoken intro; the single version of Sweet’s ‘Love Is Like Oxygen’ doesn’t have the fiddly acoustic guitar bit in the middle; and the single version of Manfred Mann’s Blinded By The Light doesn’t have the “mama always told me not to look into the eyes of the sun, but mama… that’s where the fun is!” bit.
Contender for the “most severe edit ever”.
The Doors – Light My Fire
album version = 7 minutes
single version = 3 minutes (the whole middle section is ripped out)
If someone was only ever aware of the 3 minute version, then the full version is a treat. If all they know is the full version, the single version is like decaffeinated coffee (just about acceptable, but missing so much of the good stuff)
Kraftwerk…. I used to have the 1982 UK single of Showroom Dummies – edited down from six minutes to less than two. Ditto the B-side, Numbers.
It was gloriously loud and – as with the hit single of Autobahn – rather a clever bit of editing.
Those Showroom Dummies 7″ edits seemed unlikely. Dug it out; SD 2:38, Numbers 2:37 (granted, I’m going by the label rather than my stopwatch).
Does fly by, mind…
The single edit of Light My Fire was just really crudely done, chopping out the organ solo and most of the guitar solo. My favourite bit of the album version is Krieger’s guitar coming in at the end of Manzerak’s solo.
I was also less than happy discovering that the version of The End on the Best of The Doors cd was the Apocalypse Now edit and not the original from their debut album.
IIRC, Jac Holzman talked about this on a Word podcast. There was no way the whole track (Light my Fire) could be issued on a single and played on the radio at the time. The cut made was deemed to be an acceptable compromise.
Conversely, the album version of Teardrops by Womack and Womack was rubbish. A real disappointment for fans of the wonderful , groovesome single.
Likewise Layla. IIRC the single dispensed with the rather dull and overly long piano coda.
See also The Beach Boys’ Help Me Rhonda. The album versin is a lethargic, dragging out of a sparkling pop song.
The album version has extra drunk Murray Wilson interfering to bring it down
other opinions are available – these days I find I prefer the piano bit to the guitar bit
Yes, the beautiful piano coda (written by drummer Jim Gordon, fact fans) is an essential part of the song for me.
And if you don’t think the end part is any good, listen again to the great slide player Derek Trucks playing it in 2006 (from around 3.40).
@minibreakfast Similarly the album version of Soldier Girl by The Polyphonic Spree (whoooooooo?). A wonderful punchy single completely ruined and turned into an aimless dirge.
The single version of Gaga’s Bad Romance snips out the bit of the middle eight sung in French (“Je veux ton amour, et je veux ta revenge, je veux ton amour”). It’s only a little old bit, but it makes a big difference, and when I hear this version on the radio its absence ruins the song for me.
Bowie had a few, “Heroes” mentioned above. I prefer the single version of Let’s Dance. Also edited were DJ and Ashes to Ashes. Fashion too I believe.
The recent ‘Nothing Has Changes’ comp revealed the uncommonly brutal treatment meted out to the Dame’s singles over the years. As well as Heroes, Let’s Dance, Ashes to Ashes etc are brutal edits of Fashion as Dai mentions and a proper bodge job on Young Americans
Actually I don’t think this was the Bro’ in Arms version, being the 12 inch, but then came in on ‘Greatest Hits” and is a corker for that trumpet intro, c/o Brecker brother, Randy ahead of trained bother , Michael, on sax.
Not to every ones taste I am sure, but I love this full length version of Bat out of Hell.
https://youtu.be/Z-YabIYkd-0
Donna Summer – Love to love you baby (All 18 minutes)
Thunderclap Newman, those Something In The Air hitmakers, had a rather charming follow-up with Accidents.
The 4 minute single version was not only much shorter than the lengthy nine minute album version, but it was a different recording too.
Single version:
Album Version:
Mini ATM: Where can you get the excellent single version of Houses in Motion on CD?
From the same album, the single of Once in a Lifetime completely omits the “Water removed….” verse.
Just to show that I have actually read the OP, this I think is a very good example. The single is a fine little record, but the rerecorded LP version is in a whole other league.
After the song proper, it broadens out into Panavision with a Jools Holland piano solo so glorious that I can almost forgive him for ruining every New Years Eve.
https://youtu.be/dz50N2_tCCg
Working Week’s fine single Venceremos (feat Tracey Thorn and Robert Wyatt) was a mere 3.54 minutes.
The full length version is a glorious 10 minutes long and the jazzers get jazzing.
Oooh! This is a good one. Trevor H gives ABC’s first single a good solid dose of steroids for inclusion on THAT album.
https://youtu.be/6lazXg2pAXk
Now this is one of those counter-intuitive instances where for me it’s the album version post-Horned that I remember in my mental CD rack. The radio version has long since been deleted. Now – advanced question. Would a radio station not play today the album version rather than the original single version?
I often wonder that about She Bangs the Drums.
Well, I say “often”…
In the era that interests me most there are several examples of tantalisingly rare different single versions of things on albums – re-recordings, different edits – sometimes even longer edits on the singles.
One example of the latter is the rare 1973 Duffy Power single ‘Liberation’, a minute and a half longer than the album version from the accompanying LP ‘Duffy Power’ – which was only about 30 mins long in total. There was also a different single version of ‘Little Soldiers’, another track from the same LP. Bizarre.
There was also, in 1968, a re-recorded single version of Mike Westbrook’s 8 minute LP track ‘Original Peter’ (yes, an era when jazz singles were released), which now costs £300+ if you can find a copy. And it’s never been on CD either, as far as I know.
It’s been tricky to find The Who’s single edit of ‘Won’t Get Fooleed Again’ on CD until this year’s ‘Hits 50’ comp. Lots of people hate the single edit, but I think it’s terrific – cleverly done.
I mentioned a few months back here that I had remarkable luck in finding US promo single versions of the Mahavishnu Orchestra’s ‘Open Country Joy’ and ‘Sister Andrea’ (both 1973). I’m not sure OCJ has ever been documented as existing on US promo single before. And both are exclusive edits, and exhilaratingly so! Neither has ever been on CD thus far – probably because they have been forgotten about.
Here’s Mike Westbrook, the LP version…
A feature of the cd era is “Greatest Hits” albums mostly using album cuts instead of single edits. This can throw up a treat, but I prefer my hits to be the hits and, in the iTunes etc era, individual album tracks are readily available anyway.
3 from me:
I prefer the neater version of Bizarre Love Triangle on Lowlife
I prefer the great messy racket that is Wrote For Luck on Bummed
The 45 of I Can’t Help Myself by Orange Juice is a nice cup of tea without the added chocolate digestive provided by the sunshine horns of the full length album version…
The Style Council: “Have You Ever Had It Blue?” – http://youtu.be/RRGnXprimbg – a decent, and rather fun, more jazz-infused reworking of an earlier album track “With Everything To Lose” – http://youtu.be/_p4YExd4etc – made for the “Absolute Beginners” soundtrack.
But stick the movie soundtrack album on, and oh wow, the full 5’30” OST version may well be the best thing the band ever did:
Oh my good night. Where do you even begin with Slave to the Rhythm?*
https://youtu.be/THt7o6dzMuw
(*or indeed anything on ZTT?)
Colin mentioned this, but anyway:
The single edit isn’t bad, but it’s still nothing like as good as the full version.
Improved on the album:
‘Inner City Life’ by Goldie
Not so good on the album:
‘Cat People (Putting Out Fire’) by David Bowie
Cat People is a great choice. OST single good, OST album full 643 of Moroder great.
Let’s Dance version. Now let’s just move along, nothing to see here. MCA refused to let him use the OST version on Let’s Dance. So he just made a rubbish version of his own. I think the key thing here is that it’s a Moroder track that Bowie then wrote some lyrics for and sung.
Depeche Mode’s singles Enjoy the Silence, Personal Jesus, World in my Eyes and Policy of Truth on Violator are far more satisfying that the singles on their own. They are surrounded by interludes and atmospheric pieces and bits added on.
But are they the same actual tracks as the single versions?
Personal Jesus has an extended “outro” added on but the others are about the same – but I can’t express enough the importance of hearing them all within the context of Violator.
The album version of ‘Crimson and Clover’ has an extended instrumental section, which maybe detracts from the pop impact of the 45 , but there you go.
And while we are in the late sixties, the original 45 of Family’s second single is a different mix to the album (no phasing, stronger vocals): it has never been professionally reissued, even on the official CD.
Wow! I’ve never heard that Family single. I love it on the album, this isn’t better but it’s certainly interestingly different. Why da fun wasn’t it included on any of the reissues?
Going quite well this thread. Here’s another I thought of posting. The single version is beloved of US sports coverage, and movie soundtracks. The full album version contains an astonishing second half vocal performance done apparently in one take by Kathy Sledge:
Get Back is better as a single. Rather than simply fading, it has a false end (“Ooooh”), then the groove kicks in again for a final lap of honour.
Let It Be on the other hand…
Depends on which guitar solo you prefer and whether you like extra floor toms with everything.
The Byrds – Chestnut Mare (album version 5:08, single version 2:58)
Album version has more verses and that strange interlude at 2: 16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-olDjUy4540
“I’ll make her my wife” – Rog mate, keep these things to yourself.
When Clarence White gets put on US stamps I will believe there is a God.
Thank god for the edited version –
Turning Quicksilver Messenger Service’s Who Do You Love from 25 minutes of self-indulgent wankery down to one of of the greatest examples of 60’s West Coast psychedelia at around 5 minutes. Mind you, I did my own edit from the album version which came in at just over 4 minutes and, to these ears, was even better.
Where is the edited version?
Driftin’ Back by Neil Young and Crazy Horse. A 5 minute single version would be fine surely? Any Neilheads going to argue for the essentialness of every minute of the 27?
It’s on a Best Of QMS cd and the sleevenotes say it was edited for release as as a single (probably not in UK).
It was called Classic Masters.
Here it is
http://youtu.be/yfQLy1fodfc
And this is Enjoy the Silence on the album with “Crucified!” an unlisted track that flows seamlessly from the song. It’s also Fletch’s only “lead” “vocal” in 35 years.
http://youtu.be/cG4QF_UK2r4
The Raisin’ Hell version of Walk This Way gives you more than the MTV-familiar 45: more guitar and, crucially, the original drum break that Jay to cut the record in the first place. And very belated props to the ‘Smiths for getting on board with this when most rockers (especially in the US) regarded hip-hop as not real music.
Another from Donna Summer – I feel love.
The edited single version of Stevie Wonder’s “Living for the City” isn’t a patch on the full album version, as it omits the spoken word section in the middle (which features Stevie’s brother Calvin Hardaway getting framed, and then arrested by a racist cop).
Down In The Tube Station At Midnight, which sometimes feels to me like the finest single by the finest band of ’em all, has a lovely instrumental reprise on the All Mod Cons album version….
Gaah yes a great choice. The tube train sound effect then the instrumental reprise are a much better ending.