I’m not buying that, it sounds digitally altered to make it sound bad. Ok the use of vocal fry is a bit annoying as well, but I am not sure that we are hearing the pitch as it was actually sung.
I’m not buying that, it sounds digitally altered to make it sound bad. Ok the use of vocal fry is a bit annoying as well, but I am not sure that we are hearing the pitch as it was actually sung.
This was witnessed by the crowds in the stands (hear their reaction) and the millions of viewers who watched it live nationwide on the device of their choice.
I don’t know better than you, pretty sure I don’t know better than anyone. Don’t take it so seriously, I certainly didn’t intend it to be a ‘HP is wrong’ vibe. Sorry. But, dial it down a bit, this isn’t your site.
Here’s me, posting something I thought entertaining. Here’s you, saying it’s fake and then backing down from that with the usual “calm down, don’t take it seriously” tag, and making it into a personal dig by telling me it’s “not my site”. Good grief.
I’m not buying that, it sounds digitally altered to make it sound bad. Ok the use of vocal fry is a bit annoying as well, but I am not sure that we are hearing the pitch as it was actually sung.
Bullying? Right. This comes from Locust’s piercing and humbling character breakdown, right? I’m a bully. And bullies, as we all know, can’t take it themselves. And don’t learn. Gotcha.
What the fuck is the Afterword about any more? If it is ever was? I post a clip of an excruciatingly bad performance, well worth a watch, and it gets called out as a fake by Leffe Gin, who then calls me a bully, and I get called an arse by Lodestone of Wrongness. Are we incapable of reacting to the clip without getting into these knots of imagined personal interaction?
Nivver called you an arse just posited your reaction might suggest such to some of our viewers, especially those with a nervous disposition like what old Leffers obviously suffers with.
In the pub, there would have been a small headbutt, large amounts of blood followed by manly hugs and cries of “I love you”.
It’s a forum/blog FFS, not real life . Did I tell you I could have touched Mark Cavendish today?
While we’re at it, who the f*ck is Ingrid Andress? Is she related anyway? Did she get the gig because her grandma looked hot in a white bikini? I’ve never heard of her.
Up there ^ it says she’s a ‘singer’, so that’s obviously fake news. Never want to hear her again.
There’s an interesting (well, I thought so) history of appalling versions of the US National Anthem sung at sporting events, some by people you’ve heard of. Chaka Khan’s is extraordinary.
Seems she has apologised, said she was drunk, and plans to go into rehab. Assuming that’s true, it must be excruciating for her to be going through this. Hope she comes out the other side ok.
Uncle Wheaty and HP, never saw that coming but like some plot twist in Bridgerton it kinda makes sense. I’m thinking their illegitimate son falls in love with the Prince Regent and then…
I was stood behind her in a till queue in the long gone ‘other’ big HMV on Oxford Street in the ‘90’s. She was buying a George Benson cd. Her card was taking a while to approve and she looked back at me and raised her eyebrows in a silent ‘sorry’ gesture.
Many many years later I was in there again, just before it was sold off to be fucking JD Sports or some such, and I walked past Laura Kuennsberg as I was leaving.
I’ve never seen Afghan Whigs, Stone Roses or Primal Scream live but based on their records I imagine they’d inhabit a similar spot on the live vocal Venn diagram as this poor woman.
That reminds me, I have a New Order bootleg where everyone seems to be playing in a different key (I’m sure they blamed the monitoring), and Barney seems to be ‘singing’ a completely different song altogther.
Barney did that live when I saw them play. Maybe it was the same performance that’s on your bootleg. Hooky looked like he needed a double hip replacement.
There’s also one where Barney screams certain words at the top of his voice. Because oddly certain lyrics on his teleprompter were in capitals. The scamp.
Haven’t we all lurched to our feet and burst into song while pissed? She got the timing wrong, is all. Back room of the pub, nobody cares. Packed enormodrome – not a good look. But any publicity is good publicity, and the sympathy vote will be strong. She’ll sell more albums now, but maybe not get as many wedding gigs.
@H.P.Saucecraft It’s genuine, not doctored. 24 hours later she put out a very distressed statement saying that she was drunk and that she was ashamed. She said she was going into rehab to try and overcome her addictions. She was performing on national TV before the Home Run Derby which takes place the night before the annual MLB All Star Game. The game took place last night and the American League beat the National League 5-3 with my guy, Jarren Duran from the Boston Red Sox, winning the game’s Most Valuable Player.
In 1993, I went to my first ever Dylan gig at the Hammersmith Apollo as was then. I managed to clearly get a few words in Tangled Up In Blue and Gotta Serve Somebody and also “Day Stoot!” when Dave Stewart came on for the encore. Afterwards, I had to have it explained to me that that was actually a *good* night.
Anyone remember the drama series ‘Ally McBeal’ ? My wife was a big fan of the travails affecting the eponymous Ally, a young lawyer in Boston.
A feature of it was the regular scenes after work in a karaoke bar. One new character was being persuaded to get up and sing. She continually demurred, saying that she couldn’t sing.
‘Hey, don’t worry about that. Bob Dylan has been singing for 40 years and hasn’t hit a note yet’
I saw him for the first time in 98 as I’d not wanted to see him and be disappointed. I thought he was excellent, saw him a few years later very poor as Vic and Bob would say.
You all know this, but back in his Greenwich Village coffee house days he was much caressed (no, really) for his sweet voice, and singing bang in the middle of the note. The “Dylan” style we know from his imperial years was a style he affected, with huge and very imitable success. And later, of course, he became The Worst Singer In The World. Saw him during that long phase of singing every damn song on the same whiny note, with the last word of each line approximately an octave above – “ifyou’retravelin’theeastcountry FAIR …”
Has anybody ever properly explained how/why Dylan’s singing went from a thing of beauty and wonder to the worst in the world?
Springsteen, McCartney et al gradually, inevitably began to sound like older versions of themselves but Dylan went from young troubadour to all but unlistenable old man in the blink of an eye. Motorbike accident? Too many drugs? One too many mornings?
Singing beautifully (he could croon, apparently) didn’t fit the image of a new Woody Guthrie, so he deliberately styled his vocals to suit the subject matter of his songs. Added some edge, urgency, and a little spite when necessary. Maybe he got bored with the affectation, bored with singing the old songs, bored with sounding like Bob Dylan. Maybe he wanted to see just how low he could drag his audience and still be idolised. But his vocal cords degraded into raffia eventually.
It certainly wasn’t the motorbike accident or the mid 60s drugs – John Wesley Harding, Nashville Skyline, and the much maligned Self Portrait have some of his best conventional singing. Which, of course, counts against them for many Dylan fans.
Never said I didn’t like Nashville Skyline – I do – but his singing, especially for non-fans, is awful and never recovered ( said the man with 4532 Bob Bootlegs).
I’m not buying that, it sounds digitally altered to make it sound bad. Ok the use of vocal fry is a bit annoying as well, but I am not sure that we are hearing the pitch as it was actually sung.
What are you, some kind of nut?
yes, probably. You?
Pecan.
Macadamia
I mean, even the Beach Boys have a bad day sometimes (an excuse to post this again)…
I’m not buying that, it sounds digitally altered to make it sound bad. Ok the use of vocal fry is a bit annoying as well, but I am not sure that we are hearing the pitch as it was actually sung.
…yeah, right..?
Here’s the site I got it from:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/america-unites-over-new-all-time-worst-national-anthem-performance?ref=home?ref=home
This was witnessed by the crowds in the stands (hear their reaction) and the millions of viewers who watched it live nationwide on the device of their choice.
it’s a news item, not a YouTube fake.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/music/news/ingrid-andress-performs-memorable-new-spin-on-the-national-anthem-at-mlb-home-run-derby/ar-BB1q2U4c?OCID=ansmsnnews11
https://people.com/ingrid-andress-national-anthem-performance-at-home-run-derby-sparks-social-media-stir-8678450
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicamercuri/2024/07/15/ingrid-andress-national-anthem-at-2024-home-run-derby-draws-criticism-online/
… etcetera, etcetera.
But you know better, right. Mr. Gin?
https://www.vulture.com/article/ingrid-andress-national-anthem-bad.html
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ingrid-andress-national-anthem-home-run-derby-1235061107/
https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/who-is-ingrid-andress-home-run-derby-national-anthem-singer-draws-harsh-criticism-after-performance/
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2024/07/ingrid-andress-national-anthem-home-run-derby-fergie-reaction
https://www.sbnation.com/mlb/2024/7/15/24199400/mlb-home-run-derby-national-anthem-terrible-ingrid-andress-video
… but let’s have a few more YouTube shred videos. We haven’t seen them for a while, have we?
I don’t know better than you, pretty sure I don’t know better than anyone. Don’t take it so seriously, I certainly didn’t intend it to be a ‘HP is wrong’ vibe. Sorry. But, dial it down a bit, this isn’t your site.
Here’s me, posting something I thought entertaining. Here’s you, saying it’s fake and then backing down from that with the usual “calm down, don’t take it seriously” tag, and making it into a personal dig by telling me it’s “not my site”. Good grief.
Metallica have had off days too
Metallica have on days?
I’m not buying that, it sounds digitally altered to make it sound bad. Ok the use of vocal fry is a bit annoying as well, but I am not sure that we are hearing the pitch as it was actually sung.
Oh, mummy! The big boy is bullying me!
Bullying? Right. This comes from Locust’s piercing and humbling character breakdown, right? I’m a bully. And bullies, as we all know, can’t take it themselves. And don’t learn. Gotcha.
Simon Le Bon’s squeaky note in A View To A Kill at Live Aid
I will drop out of this thread, it’s pointless going on. I was not intending to provoke something. I won’t tolerate bullying – that’s what this is.
Mmm – bullying or ribbing or HP being an arse?
I had a lovely day at the TdF, I saw Mark Cavendish and I ate 42 sausage rolls and possibly drank a few glasses of rosé.
What the fuck is the Afterword about any more? If it is ever was? I post a clip of an excruciatingly bad performance, well worth a watch, and it gets called out as a fake by Leffe Gin, who then calls me a bully, and I get called an arse by Lodestone of Wrongness. Are we incapable of reacting to the clip without getting into these knots of imagined personal interaction?
Nivver called you an arse just posited your reaction might suggest such to some of our viewers, especially those with a nervous disposition like what old Leffers obviously suffers with.
In the pub, there would have been a small headbutt, large amounts of blood followed by manly hugs and cries of “I love you”.
It’s a forum/blog FFS, not real life . Did I tell you I could have touched Mark Cavendish today?
In a private email, Mark asks me to do something about your constant harassment. And I don’t even know who he is.
I’ll leave this here…
Any band that names itself Puddle of Mudd has no claim on any respect at all.
I just realised that for 20+ years my brain has merged Puddle of Mudd and Limp Bizkit into a single, vile entity. My mental scaffolding is collapsing.
Puddle of Mudd. Bag of shite.
While we’re at it, who the f*ck is Ingrid Andress? Is she related anyway? Did she get the gig because her grandma looked hot in a white bikini? I’ve never heard of her.
Up there ^ it says she’s a ‘singer’, so that’s obviously fake news. Never want to hear her again.
There’s an interesting (well, I thought so) history of appalling versions of the US National Anthem sung at sporting events, some by people you’ve heard of. Chaka Khan’s is extraordinary.
Extraordinary good, or the other kind? I’m a busy man so if you could save me the 18 seconds search time?
Unforgettable. And she’s not even pissed.
Seems she has apologised, said she was drunk, and plans to go into rehab. Assuming that’s true, it must be excruciating for her to be going through this. Hope she comes out the other side ok.
This is the worst ever thread on here.
Quite possibly. Four comments (not yours, Wheaty) react to the clip and have something to add, the rest are … well …
… Very bizarre
Yup.
Uncle Wheaty and HP, never saw that coming but like some plot twist in Bridgerton it kinda makes sense. I’m thinking their illegitimate son falls in love with the Prince Regent and then…
I met Ursula Andress once. I really did.
I was stood behind her in a till queue in the long gone ‘other’ big HMV on Oxford Street in the ‘90’s. She was buying a George Benson cd. Her card was taking a while to approve and she looked back at me and raised her eyebrows in a silent ‘sorry’ gesture.
Many many years later I was in there again, just before it was sold off to be fucking JD Sports or some such, and I walked past Laura Kuennsberg as I was leaving.
I should write a memoir.
What was the original post about?
What was La Kuennsberg buying? I think we should be told…
Gimme Some Truth?
I’ve never seen Afghan Whigs, Stone Roses or Primal Scream live but based on their records I imagine they’d inhabit a similar spot on the live vocal Venn diagram as this poor woman.
That reminds me, I have a New Order bootleg where everyone seems to be playing in a different key (I’m sure they blamed the monitoring), and Barney seems to be ‘singing’ a completely different song altogther.
Barney did that live when I saw them play. Maybe it was the same performance that’s on your bootleg. Hooky looked like he needed a double hip replacement.
There’s also one where Barney screams certain words at the top of his voice. Because oddly certain lyrics on his teleprompter were in capitals. The scamp.
I have however seen ver Whigs live – once “loud” and once more sedately at the Synagogue at 6th and I.
I can confirm that Dulli has the pipes to do live very, very well.
Well why didn’t he do that on the record I own (Black Love) and have played nearly all the way through?
So….um….Black Love. Yeah. So….
Anyway, how about 1965?
🙂
Not heard it. Or indeed the last couple of tracks on Black Love.
Tastes differ. But I think Dulli’s a great lead singer.
Just poor Technique I imagine.
If that’s supposed to be a reply to my NO comment, Fred, well done.
Thank you, it was. I still don’t really understand how the reply system works.
is she worse than Baby Queen?
She said today she was really drunk
Haven’t we all lurched to our feet and burst into song while pissed? She got the timing wrong, is all. Back room of the pub, nobody cares. Packed enormodrome – not a good look. But any publicity is good publicity, and the sympathy vote will be strong. She’ll sell more albums now, but maybe not get as many wedding gigs.
Nevermind Jimi Hendrix
Here’s Steve Jones.
@H.P.Saucecraft It’s genuine, not doctored. 24 hours later she put out a very distressed statement saying that she was drunk and that she was ashamed. She said she was going into rehab to try and overcome her addictions. She was performing on national TV before the Home Run Derby which takes place the night before the annual MLB All Star Game. The game took place last night and the American League beat the National League 5-3 with my guy, Jarren Duran from the Boston Red Sox, winning the game’s Most Valuable Player.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgl2gw5868o
In 1993, I went to my first ever Dylan gig at the Hammersmith Apollo as was then. I managed to clearly get a few words in Tangled Up In Blue and Gotta Serve Somebody and also “Day Stoot!” when Dave Stewart came on for the encore. Afterwards, I had to have it explained to me that that was actually a *good* night.
Anyone remember the drama series ‘Ally McBeal’ ? My wife was a big fan of the travails affecting the eponymous Ally, a young lawyer in Boston.
A feature of it was the regular scenes after work in a karaoke bar. One new character was being persuaded to get up and sing. She continually demurred, saying that she couldn’t sing.
‘Hey, don’t worry about that. Bob Dylan has been singing for 40 years and hasn’t hit a note yet’
I thought that funny. Not fair. But funny.
I saw him in 98 and it was the worst performance by a professional musician I’ve ever seen.
I saw him for the first time in 98 as I’d not wanted to see him and be disappointed. I thought he was excellent, saw him a few years later very poor as Vic and Bob would say.
You all know this, but back in his Greenwich Village coffee house days he was much caressed (no, really) for his sweet voice, and singing bang in the middle of the note. The “Dylan” style we know from his imperial years was a style he affected, with huge and very imitable success. And later, of course, he became The Worst Singer In The World. Saw him during that long phase of singing every damn song on the same whiny note, with the last word of each line approximately an octave above – “ifyou’retravelin’theeastcountry FAIR …”
Has anybody ever properly explained how/why Dylan’s singing went from a thing of beauty and wonder to the worst in the world?
Springsteen, McCartney et al gradually, inevitably began to sound like older versions of themselves but Dylan went from young troubadour to all but unlistenable old man in the blink of an eye. Motorbike accident? Too many drugs? One too many mornings?
Singing beautifully (he could croon, apparently) didn’t fit the image of a new Woody Guthrie, so he deliberately styled his vocals to suit the subject matter of his songs. Added some edge, urgency, and a little spite when necessary. Maybe he got bored with the affectation, bored with singing the old songs, bored with sounding like Bob Dylan. Maybe he wanted to see just how low he could drag his audience and still be idolised. But his vocal cords degraded into raffia eventually.
It certainly wasn’t the motorbike accident or the mid 60s drugs – John Wesley Harding, Nashville Skyline, and the much maligned Self Portrait have some of his best conventional singing. Which, of course, counts against them for many Dylan fans.
Seven minutes into this clip, the world’s best Trump impersonator does an astonishing party piece – Dylan singing through the ages:
Brilliant album but JWH was the first sign of his voice going. As for Nashville Skyline …
You don’t like Nashville Skyline? That’s really, really reassuring.
https://falsememoryfoam.blogspot.com/2022/11/dylan-deluxe-preview-exclusive-interview.html
That’s madness. He was off the barkers, first sign of the real voice. See also Another Self Portrait.
Never said I didn’t like Nashville Skyline – I do – but his singing, especially for non-fans, is awful and never recovered ( said the man with 4532 Bob Bootlegs).
Did Florence Foster Jenkins die in vain?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b084zbf0/florence-foster-jenkins