The Afterword is back! Time for a party!
At this moment, on the other side of the Atlantic, some of the best parties on the planet are happening.
Yesterday, it being Pancake Day, Mardi Gras and Carnival, we had a thread on the music from those amazing celebrations over on The Lifeboat. I was particularly chuffed at finding this wonderful clip of soca star Super Blue performing in front of an ecstatic Caribbean crowd. It captures the atmosphere perfectly. I love the strongmen in their swimming trunks and the guy on stilts.
But can you imagine a crowd of 10,000 Afterworders all jumping up and down waving their hankies like madmen? Or can you imagine yourself wearing a bejewelled thong, pasties and a large feather head dress?
Some things just don’t travel very well however hard you try. There is a samba troupe here in Stockholm. The girls are gorgeous, they have beautiful outfits and the music is great. But somehow, when you are freezing and covered in goosebumps, it’s a little difficult to let Bacchanalian abandon take over.
Any other examples of cultural events which do not travel well?
Anybody here been to Mardi Gras or Carnival?
Kaisfatdad says
I am making a Spotify playlist of Carnival music from different places. Enjoy!
spotify:user:kaisfatdad:playlist:1dKHPFTSmjHH8HUMt4wvZY
Bingo Little says
I am reminded of a dear friend of mine who assured me that Carnival would be “shit”.
The sole basis for this judgement was “I’ve been to Notting Hill and that was rubbish”.
Kaisfatdad says
Talking of Carnival, I shouldn’t forget the Venetian version. It looks like a far more sedate affair than Rio. Then again, it’s a lot chillier.
When we were in Venice this summer there was Vivaldi playing everywhere. I wonder if they have a slightly more raucous party music too. Somehow I doubt it.
Kaisfatdad says
Good point Bingo. For most Brits, Carnival is Notting Hill, which I’ve had little experience of.
If I went to Brazil at Carnival time, I’d want to go and see the celebrations in a smaller town. Rio sounds far too OTT. Same goes for the Caribbean. A smaller island would be much more enjoyable.
Jorrox says
Been to New Orleans many times but never for Mardi Gras. Done the hanky wave at hunners of Irma Thomas gigs though. (Happy birthday today to the Queen BTW).
Kaisfatdad says
How does it work with that hanky waving Jorrox? I presume one does not use the snot rag one has been snuffling into but rather has a special waving hanky. Does Irma sell these at her merch table perchance?
I will add a track by the queen to my carnival playlist.
Jorrox says
The hankies, I believe, are an indoor gig alternative to brollys. Miss Irma hands out the paper tissues herself. I now do the same thing with my NOLA band over here.
Kaisfatdad says
Fascinating Wiki entry on the Mardi Gras “Indian” tribes. I hadn’t realized that Iko Iko was based on a taunting stand off between two tribes.http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mardi_Gras_Indians#In_popular_culture
Kaisfatdad says
The Indians feature in one of the best ever films set in New Orleans, The Big Easy. The soundtrack is a cracker.
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Rigid Digit says
Probably already on the list (can’t see the Spotify Playlist for some reason).
Alan Price Set – Don’t Stop The Carnival
(Dig that affected Jamaican accent – is that still allowed in these days of rampant PC-ness?)
Kaisfatdad says
Fascinating article on the Indians’ influence on New Orleans music.
http://www.jass.com/tom/next/indian.html
Rigid Digit says
Is it just hankys that should be waved in the air?
St Cecilia – Leap Up & Down Wave Your Knicker In The Air
Oh, it’s “that” sort of Carnival, is it?
Kaisfatdad says
Mr Price was not on the playlist. Thanks Rigid.
Kaisfatdad says
I bet there are quite a few undergarments waved in the air at carnival.
I looked for the Alan Price song on Spotify, didn’t find it but did find a version by calypso pioneer Duke of Iron. As far as I can make out Price’s version was a cover of that.
The Duke was an interesting character:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Duke_of_Iron
who wrote some very bawdy songs.
Kaisfatdad says
There are enormous similarities between the Mardi Gras Indians and the samba schools of Rio. Both are very rooted in the local community and spend all year making costumes and rehearsing for the Carnival week.
When I was in Rio many years ago I visited a samba school rehearsal and it was an amazing joyous noise they made. One guy with a little guitar and about thirty others bashing away on the drums.
http://www.greatbrazilianmusic.com/samba.html
Phil Pirrip says
A few years ago we were fortunate to experience the colour and kicking sounds of the Tobago Carnival in the capital, Scarborough. Supposedly the smaller brother of the Trinidad Carnival it was none the less stunning in the sheer detail and vibrancy of the costumes, the volume of the sounds and enthusiasm of the participants. Unfortunately, we had been warned not to linger after dark so arranged a taxi to take us back to the hotel at 7pm when things were just warming up. Another time maybe.
By contrast I’ve just returned from a beer festival in Chelmsford where the local Morris troupe were happily bashing sticks and waving hankies. Party on.
Kaisfatdad says
That must have been amazing Phil. Scarborough! Unusual name for he Caribbean.
Now for some classic New Orleans party music. Featuring the Neville Brothers and The Wild Tchoupitoulas, both of whom have quite a few references to the “Indian” culture in their songs.
Kaisfatdad says
Just stumbled across this little film about the Mardi Gras Indians. Some great footage of the costumes.
Kaisfatdad says
Phil’s reference to the Trininad and Tobago Carnival made me look for a clip.
Jinkies! These girls are NSFW. I can’t really imagine anyone in Scarborough, England dressing like this.
salwarpe says
It would be remiss of me to, um, miss this chance to play a clip of the Cologne carnival – carefully crafted floats, often with a satiric message; countless lines of marching bands; Napoleonic troops throwing cheap sweets at the waiting crowds, all dressed for the cold northern European winter with a clown outfit or animal costume or afro wig on top. An opportunity for Rhinelanders to get pissed and probably get lucky, the surrounding hospitals will be reading the maternity ward for the regular carnival baby boom in 9 months time
Cologne Carnival 2010 Rose Monday Parade: http://youtu.be/TXAMEmfdgeE
Kaisfatdad says
Brilliant! Thanks for re-dressing the balance a bit. Europeans can have fun too.
Some of those floats were amazing and reminded me of the Fallas in Valencia and also takes place in February.
There’s even a Spanish lesson thrown in for you!
Kaisfatdad says
Sorry! Got the month wrong. It’s in March.
Kaisfatdad says
One of the giants of Brazilian carnival musicl. The late, great Clara Nunes.
GCU Grey Area says
Down here in Somerset, Carnival is very big, but takes place in November. Large floats, covered in lightbulbs trundle through the streets of Bridgwater, and other towns nearby. Two types of float – one where everyone jigs around to a tune, and one where they all stand still. Rigidly defined themes (it seems) of pirates, circuses, robots, and the wild west. If, like me, you are Carnival-negative blood group and find the whole thing utterly underwhelming, you keep that opinion to yourself and wait for it to blow over for another year.
thecheshirecat says
Wave your hanky in the air, you say?
And for full Afterwordfriendliness, the box player is Cropredy favourite Simon Care
Kaisfatdad says
Thanks GCU and Cheshire. Glad to hear about your enthusiasm for hanky waving CC!
Here, from Ivrea nea Turin, is another lively Shrove Tuesday tradition: The Battle of the Oranges.
Colourful and rather sticky by the looks of things.
Kaisfatdad says
In Haiti, the equivalent to the samba schools and the NOLA Indians is rara music.
That’s a pretty extraordinary noise they make. Very primal. This clip looks like it was recorded during an outage!
Kaisfatdad says
A little more rara music. Not as slick as other carnivals perhaps but it looks as though they are having a lot of fun,
And surely this must be an AW first? Two geezers on horseback playing trombones!
Kaisfatdad says
The Dominican equivalent to rara is, believe it or not, called gaga. Perhaps not so Lady like?
Here’s a NY-based gaga band Gaga P’al Pueblo.
Kaisfatdad says
Here’s a bit more about the Dominican carnival which supposedly dates back to the 16th century!
http://www.godominicanrepublic.com/rd/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=28&Itemid=34&lang=en
One of the most distinctive things about it are the diablos (devils). Colourful!
Kaisfatdad says
They like it colourful!
Kaisfatdad says
A few up to-the-minute 2015 carnival hits here.
http://www.djkumasi.org/
Alias says
Soca artist Explainer came up with this tribute to the Notting Hill carnival. “Even Charlie Gillett he come out for it”
Alias says
The Wild Tchoupitoulas album is excellent, but a band who seem to be comprised of the Meters and the Neville Brothers are always going to be good. The first album by another Injun tribe, the Wild Magnolias, is a funk classic.
Alias says
Here is New Orleans band Los Hombres Caliente doing their take on a carnival in Havana (with a view count low even by the usual standards of my viewing! Totally undeserved I might add)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4i2ft1RRGQ
Kaisfatdad says
I knew you were the man for the job, Alias! Thanks a lot!
Here’s another AW first. A carnival jazz band dressed as rabbits!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vkrl2EU4m8s
Kaisfatdad says
The reason I stumbled across the rocking rabbits was that I discovered that Souljazz have done a carnival compilation.
http://www.souljazzrecords.co.uk/releases/?id=39800
On Spotify too!