The days when I would pay over £40 to see ANYBODY are long gone.
I wearied many years ago of the “big gig” experience. The one where you get herded in and out of some fucking great barn, like cattle, to see performers on a screen, because you are so far away from the stage.
Where your little bottle of water has been taken away by security on the way in, so that you can be sold another one.
Surely smaller places should have higher ticket prices than arenas or stadiums? Socially distanced show with 300 tickets sold instead of 1200. It is a possible way forward. And he has been charging these prices for years.
Have seen Van about six times over the years. At his best, he’s been spellbinding. At his worst, he’s been shit. The last time I saw him he just phoned in a 90 minute greatest hits show and was offstage and up the road to the pub before 10.30
At these kind of prices, I’m just not willing to take a gamble.
I think that’s good. My ideal concert by anyone would start bang on time, last no more than 90 minutes, and the last song would be announced as such, “this will be the last song,” and would be the last song.
I saw the Skatalites, or a version of the Skatalites, about five years ago. They did 10 songs, the only mis-fire was the obligatory (tedium of) reggae one at no. 9 (like the 63 Beatles bunging in a 10 minute “Yer Blues”), which outstayed its welcome by about five minutes. Otherwise, it couldn’t have lasted more than an hour. People were all standing in a marquee on a hot day, I shouldn’t think anyone wanted to stand up for much more time.
The other thing about Van is that there is no lengthy chat between songs, no getting the audience to sing the chorus for two minutes, no endless drum or bass solos as he introduces the band etc etc. So 90 minutes or so from him is more like 2 hours of anyone else. Mind you there is the 5 minutes or so from the band after he has left the stage to give him time to get to the car and away.
Like what dai said, the prices are a product of this being done on a very limited capacity. Pretty bold to be going for a show in September when right now it still isn’t permissible to do indoor shows, with the earliest potential date being mid August, and that’s in doubt given the current concerns. Fair play to him and the promoters for going for it – really hope it happens and it works.
It’s just occurred to me that the last live show I saw as a punter in those innocent pre-Covid days was the Man in Belfast back in January. And, it being a charity gig in a 350 seat venue, they were even more expensive than the Camden prices – the most I’ve ever paid for a concert ticket (£140 since you ask, a Christmas present from Mrs BB, so actually I didn’t pay anything). Worth every penny.
£100-odd to see Van live up close and personal in a small intimate setting would be worth a punt as he tends to pull out quite a few deep cuts. Well he did when I saw him do a Lit Up Inside show at Dublin’s Olympia theatre in 2014 and he was magnificent.
Van phoning in his “best of” in a larger venue as I saw him do in Cork Marquee eight months later? No thanks
I wasn’t suggesting he’s ripping people off – if he can get a hundred quids for a ticket, then that’s exactly what they’re worth. Fair play and good for him etcetera. A hundred quid will pay my water and electricity bills for six months, here in the land that (hasty prayer to a non-listening Buddha) Covid forgot.
Last time I saw him was ooh – can’t remember. But the ticket didn’t cost six months of bills anywhere in the world. I am just amazed any of you *can* shell out this amount (let alone want to, for a man who some would argue is past his shelf date).
Are you in Vietnam, HP? Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi? Used to live in HCMC 20-odd years back. Wonderful place. Hope the developers haven’t spoiled it as much as the photos I’ve seen suggest they have.
Re Van – As the venue is only 1,500 at full capacity and will presumably be cut down to an atmosphere-free 400 to 500 or so socially distanced fans I can understand the £100 per ticket price tag.
That said, since TX are only on sale in groups of four or more, they’re also actually way, way more expensive than £100. Especially so for the Billy no mates among us.
The fact that the premium-priced £127 seats in the first three rows are being sold on a first-come, first-served basis also means the sour vibes won’t only be emanating from the stage come show time.
They have the cost of flying everyone in, often not the full band,. Nay often the artist solo or with a local pick up band.There are only 18 million people in a continent bigger than Europe, so heaps more travel for relatively few gigs. $200 upwards is pretty common for concerts. Over $US 100 to stand in a pub and stare at the back of the neck or in my case, the shoulder blades of the tall bloke who moved in front of my line of sight just before the show started.
Mind you, since we have just gone into 8 pm to 5am curfew, this is all somewhat moot.
Quote: “Equal parts blue eyes [eyed? anyway – not] soul shouter and wide eyed [wide-eyed, unless the meaning is the man is wide and has eyes] poet sorcerer, Van Morrison is among popular music’s true innovators, a restless seeker whose incantory [incantatory] vocals and alchemical fusion of R&B, jazz, blues and Celtic folk produced what is regarded as perhaps the most spiritually transcendent body of work in the rock & roll canon [votes for second most, third, etc. please]. Having penned iconic songs such as “gloria”, “brown eyed girl” and “moondance” [cap inits, perhaps?] and has a career that has spanned more than 50 [er, sixty] years [this sentence makes NO sense].”
Just the name of the venue tells you all you need to know about this venture. As FauxGeordie would say, if he still inhabited these halls, “Trebles all round”.
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I think those prices are in need of a government donation…..
ONE HUNDRED UK DOLLARS FOR A TICKET?!?!?!?!?!?!
WHAT THE ACTUAL?!?!?!?!?!?!?
I wouldn’t give him a hundred quid if he played on the back of my truck while I went up Tesco’s.
I know I’ve been out of the loop for a while, but is this normal? HOW CAN YOU PEOPLE AFFORD IT?
I heard it from the man himself, he prefers to play smaller places but for arena type pay.
The days when I would pay over £40 to see ANYBODY are long gone.
I wearied many years ago of the “big gig” experience. The one where you get herded in and out of some fucking great barn, like cattle, to see performers on a screen, because you are so far away from the stage.
Where your little bottle of water has been taken away by security on the way in, so that you can be sold another one.
Surely smaller places should have higher ticket prices than arenas or stadiums? Socially distanced show with 300 tickets sold instead of 1200. It is a possible way forward. And he has been charging these prices for years.
Have seen Van about six times over the years. At his best, he’s been spellbinding. At his worst, he’s been shit. The last time I saw him he just phoned in a 90 minute greatest hits show and was offstage and up the road to the pub before 10.30
At these kind of prices, I’m just not willing to take a gamble.
Last time I saw him, he was on stage on the dot of 7.30, and finished by 9.15.
I have seen him do 2 gigs in an evening. 2nd one started at 9.30, out of there by 11.
I think that’s good. My ideal concert by anyone would start bang on time, last no more than 90 minutes, and the last song would be announced as such, “this will be the last song,” and would be the last song.
I saw the Skatalites, or a version of the Skatalites, about five years ago. They did 10 songs, the only mis-fire was the obligatory (tedium of) reggae one at no. 9 (like the 63 Beatles bunging in a 10 minute “Yer Blues”), which outstayed its welcome by about five minutes. Otherwise, it couldn’t have lasted more than an hour. People were all standing in a marquee on a hot day, I shouldn’t think anyone wanted to stand up for much more time.
Mind, it was free, and not £100.
The other thing about Van is that there is no lengthy chat between songs, no getting the audience to sing the chorus for two minutes, no endless drum or bass solos as he introduces the band etc etc. So 90 minutes or so from him is more like 2 hours of anyone else. Mind you there is the 5 minutes or so from the band after he has left the stage to give him time to get to the car and away.
So that the teenage girls can’t mob him “Van Morrison has left the building”.
Seen him do two and a half hour shows on occasion.
How’s that going to happen anyway?
£100+ ticket plus a dose of COVID-19.
Who could ask for more?
Like what dai said, the prices are a product of this being done on a very limited capacity. Pretty bold to be going for a show in September when right now it still isn’t permissible to do indoor shows, with the earliest potential date being mid August, and that’s in doubt given the current concerns. Fair play to him and the promoters for going for it – really hope it happens and it works.
It’s just occurred to me that the last live show I saw as a punter in those innocent pre-Covid days was the Man in Belfast back in January. And, it being a charity gig in a 350 seat venue, they were even more expensive than the Camden prices – the most I’ve ever paid for a concert ticket (£140 since you ask, a Christmas present from Mrs BB, so actually I didn’t pay anything). Worth every penny.
A legendary pub-rock and pub session the night before, too, Bluemeister!
Never to be forgotten Colin, never to be forgotten! Albeit through an alcoholic haze…..
Let’s do it again some time… although it’s hard to imagine there being live music again…
This is a thread about a live concert actually happening (maybe) !
£100-odd to see Van live up close and personal in a small intimate setting would be worth a punt as he tends to pull out quite a few deep cuts. Well he did when I saw him do a Lit Up Inside show at Dublin’s Olympia theatre in 2014 and he was magnificent.
Van phoning in his “best of” in a larger venue as I saw him do in Cork Marquee eight months later? No thanks
I wasn’t suggesting he’s ripping people off – if he can get a hundred quids for a ticket, then that’s exactly what they’re worth. Fair play and good for him etcetera. A hundred quid will pay my water and electricity bills for six months, here in the land that (hasty prayer to a non-listening Buddha) Covid forgot.
Last time I saw him was ooh – can’t remember. But the ticket didn’t cost six months of bills anywhere in the world. I am just amazed any of you *can* shell out this amount (let alone want to, for a man who some would argue is past his shelf date).
You have to admit those are very cheap bills though.
Not for round here, Dai.
Are you in Vietnam, HP? Ho Chi Minh or Hanoi? Used to live in HCMC 20-odd years back. Wonderful place. Hope the developers haven’t spoiled it as much as the photos I’ve seen suggest they have.
Re Van – As the venue is only 1,500 at full capacity and will presumably be cut down to an atmosphere-free 400 to 500 or so socially distanced fans I can understand the £100 per ticket price tag.
That said, since TX are only on sale in groups of four or more, they’re also actually way, way more expensive than £100. Especially so for the Billy no mates among us.
The fact that the premium-priced £127 seats in the first three rows are being sold on a first-come, first-served basis also means the sour vibes won’t only be emanating from the stage come show time.
Eastern Thailand, Jaygee, a little too close to the Mekong River. No development as such. No live Van Morrison gigs, either, which is a comfort.
https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/thailand
https://epidemic-stats.com/coronavirus/uk
They say there’s only two categories of music fan.
Those who hate van with a passion and those who’ve not yet met him.
Try concerts down here.
They have the cost of flying everyone in, often not the full band,. Nay often the artist solo or with a local pick up band.There are only 18 million people in a continent bigger than Europe, so heaps more travel for relatively few gigs. $200 upwards is pretty common for concerts. Over $US 100 to stand in a pub and stare at the back of the neck or in my case, the shoulder blades of the tall bloke who moved in front of my line of sight just before the show started.
Mind you, since we have just gone into 8 pm to 5am curfew, this is all somewhat moot.
Population was 25million at the beginning of the year. No wonder there is a curfew :0
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Only 47.50 at this “dedicated socially distanced” venue. Actually looks like a fine way to experience a gig, I would probably prefer it!
https://virginmoneyunityarena.com/lineup/van-morrison/
Quote: “Equal parts blue eyes [eyed? anyway – not] soul shouter and wide eyed [wide-eyed, unless the meaning is the man is wide and has eyes] poet sorcerer, Van Morrison is among popular music’s true innovators, a restless seeker whose incantory [incantatory] vocals and alchemical fusion of R&B, jazz, blues and Celtic folk produced what is regarded as perhaps the most spiritually transcendent body of work in the rock & roll canon [votes for second most, third, etc. please]. Having penned iconic songs such as “gloria”, “brown eyed girl” and “moondance” [cap inits, perhaps?] and has a career that has spanned more than 50 [er, sixty] years [this sentence makes NO sense].”
Just the name of the venue tells you all you need to know about this venture. As FauxGeordie would say, if he still inhabited these halls, “Trebles all round”.