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Belfast Spånga Monopoli Zurich- Everybody talking bout pop music.

Whatever our musical tastes in 2016, for most of us it was probably a pop song that started our interest in music.

There are doubtless exceptions. Those of us who heard Coltrane’s A Love Supreme while lying in our cradles and immediately developed a love for experimental jazz. The ones who at the age of three were saving their pocket money to buy Miles Davis albums.

This is a thread in celebration of the pop song. From Acker Bilk to Tove Lo, from Taming Parlour to Billy Fury. Please post your favourites. Not only the ones that became megahits but also the neglected pop gems that unjustly fell by the wayside.

Pop has had a chequered career. Back in the 60s many musicians were all too happy to be described as a pop star.

And then pop became a dirty word. It was rock music’s commercial, ephemeral, superficial relative.

Andy Partridge from XTC, commenting on his song This is Pop?
“In 1976 I read a tiny review of a group called The Sex Pistols and the journalist was looking for words to describe them and their music. I thought how stupid a lot of writers are, trying to find categories and names for things when surely if you’re in a group to be popular and your music becomes popular then you are a pop group, making pop music. Despite what haughty, clever or elitist tags you are given or claim for yourself. If you don’t want to get wet stay out of the pool.”

This thread is my penance for my sin of being very dismissive recently when Ms Succeeds mentioned pop as a genre. Now I wish to atone for my transgression. I have been to confession. I have said 500 Hail Maria Careys. I have crawled round the Brill Building on my hands and knees 200 times.

Now I’d like to welcome you to the Afterword Pop Club.

A word of warning. Security guards will be checking carefully for impostors.

The Pop Group and Pop Will Eat Itself will be asked to leave the premises. Iggy Pop will be
welcome. First Aid Kit should be OK as long as they bring their dad and his band Lolita Pop.
Icona Pop will be taken straight to the VIP Lounge.

And finally don’t forget all those artists who despite not being “pop” musicians have written at least one great pop song: Zappa, The Smiths, Suzanne Vega, Yes, Kraftwerk, Einsturzande Neubaten…..

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    • London, New York, Munich, Paris – everybody talk about Rolf Harris.

      Err.

      I remember M being on Top Of the Pops once, with The Boomtown Rats in the same programme. M turned up in sort of boilersuit / flying suit outfits. As did ver Rats, who were on after Robin Scott’s band. And who were not amused.

      The album from which Pop Muzik comes is brilliant. Moonlight and Muzak and That’s The Way The Money Goes are superb.

  3. A group of girls at the next table in Burger King at the weekend were singing this. If I hear the postman whistling it, its pop credentials will be thoroughly established.

  12. Andy Partridge is justifiably upset on twitter at the moment about yet more snidey comments and bitching from Todd Rundgren who seems an unpleasant egotistical arsehead.

    • I heard that interview and fond it mighty refreshing. For once Todd was faced with someone who wasn’t almost fainting to be in his presence so it was a bit sad to hear him going quite as far and as unguarded as he was about Andy, but having had some experience of both of them I don’t think it was very far off the truth.

      • Sounds very healthy for the likes of Todd to be interviewed by someone who is not totally in awe of him. And I can well believe he is not the easiest person to work with.

        BUT

        He has written some quite magnificently tuneful pop songs.

  14. Ahhhhh, pop. 1981 Top of the Pops is getting good because it’s containing music I remember as a young one. I’ve been back listening to Godley & Creme a good bit recently. Wedding Bells doesn’t seem to be on YouTube, but this is.

  16. Didn’t start my interest in pop exactly (that started much earlier), but this was the first single I bought (along with ‘Banana Republic’, Boomtown Rats).

    Perfect pop, of course.

  28. Any excuse to post something off Paul Williams first album. The whole LP is packed with haunting pop songs under 3min in length each. Bit depressing though. Was the early 70’s after all.

  32. May 1981.
    I’m stuck in hospital and Thursday night is Top Of The Pops Night.
    There is no way I’m missing this (even with a drip in my arm)

    I’ve heard the charts regularly since early 1980 – there are many bands and songs I like, but this one defines “Pop”.

    To shamelessly nick (paraphrase?) a line from @DogFacedBoy: “That is a proper f**king Pop Star”

    • A question of chronology.
      Year 3000 was released in 2003, and contains the line
      “your great-great-great-granddaughter, is pretty fine”

      The Year 3000 would’ve been 997 years into the future.
      Now, considering a generation gap of 25-30 years, your great-great-great-granddaughter would be around 850 years old – would she really be “pretty fine”?
      To make the line chronologically correct you would need around 31 or 32 greats.
      I don’t think the chorus would scan quite as well.

  49. just thought of another bit of classy recent pop. Bit of gospel in this. The ear worm goes to 11 at 1 min 30:

    Oh dear, I should be working, not posting little symphonies for the kids.

  55. Que pasa/ Me no Pop I! Coati Mundi takes a dance through Central Park..

    And here’s his boss, Kid Creole, reminding us that a pop star should never be short of self-confidence.

  58. so much to choose from, but here’s two:

    Split Enz – Six Months In A Leaky Boat. A live version Starts slow (or, at least, non-pop-y). Skip to about 2 minutes, if you must

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPTvkIwEsB0

    Fun Boy Three – Our Lips Are Sealed. {Assumes Alan Partridge posture and intones “… but I’m glad these boys didn’t! Keep them sealed, that is… oh, and the ladies too.”

    • Was reading the story of this group last night, and it made me wonder whether we’re not just better off never knowing the behind-the-curtain details and enjoy the music instead.

      • I agree. I saw something about Strawberry Switchblade the other day and the beginning hinted at darkness behind the pop surface. I can’t remember now whether it was that that put me off or that I just didn’t have time, but I didn’t read the piece. Don’t think I will now.

  62. Breaking my own promise to foist another of my favourite songs on those who frequent this place.

    Euphoric Scottish pop from Friends Again. State of Art

  63. More OMD. Sara Cox played this on the Red Button over the weekend. The poppier, the better as far as OMD are concerned IMHO – Souvenir was the first record that was “mine” as opposed to Dad’s (unless The Wombles Twenty Greatest Hits counts) and I still love it today. They had some great pop singles – Electricity, Messages, Enola Gay (as above), Souvenir, Joan of Arc, Maid of Orleans, Telegraph, Pandora’s Box – that stand up at least as well as some of the more renowned 80s names.

    • I would also suggest Sailing on the Seven Seas and Walking on the Milky Way as brilliant pop songs. WOTMW is (was) begging to be covered by Oasis. It’s a very Oasis-y song and I can imagine them really belting it out.

  72. Pop groups have to be “The” what and whomsoever they are. It’s a rule, otherwise it’s pretentious. scroll back and you will see I’m right. Here’s a lot I rather took to in short trousers:

  75. Pop music is quite often where you’ll find what you could call your jobbing popsters – they might not be teen heart-throb material, but they know how to make magic – it’s where you’ll see names like Cook and Greenaway, Macauly and (occasional AW contributor) Hazzard bandied about, and unsung heroes like Alan Parker and Clem Cattini ply their trade.

    Oz music scribe Stuart Coupe once put it that pop music was the most democratic genre of music as it was defined purely by economic success; didn’t matter if you were rock, prog, country, bubblegum, whatever…if it charted you were pop.

    Some sterling examples have been provided – here’s one more

  76. This could be one of the best pop songs ever recorded. It’s definitely not the best video ever recorded…just close your eyes and enjoy!

    (Plastic Bertrand – Tout Petite La Planète)

  77. The soundtrack of the Swedish uppehållsrum in 1981…
    Gyllene Tider – När Vi Två Blir En:

    Freestyle – Fantasi:

    Both lyrics speaking directly to teenagers spending every moment awake thinking about sex (that they’re probably not getting). Both very catchy pop hits. (Both bands looking quite awful…)

  79. All right -I’ll do it. As is often the case, Depeche Mode deliver the goods. But I am going to surprise you by not embedding the link to their truly awful video. I am instead going to share with you a cover version of Just Can’t Get Enough done by The Saturdays. It’s terrible. Don’t watch it.

  81. Scotland – Popland!

    Danny Wilson – Mary’s Prayer

    Fairground Attraction – Perfect

    Teenage Fanclub – Baby Lee

    Zooey Van Gooey – You told the drunks I knew karate

    Belle and Sebastian – The boy with the arab strap

  82. No Bacharach and David yet? A scandal!

    I say a little prayer for you – Jackie Leven

    Dionne Warwick’s versions of their songs are always pop gold.

    Walk on by

    Do you know the way to San Jose?

    • That song was enormous in Scandinavia, Holland and Germany, which has puzzled me for years.

      The lyrics to Bobby Brown are filthy, so it begs the question, do English obscenities not register in those countries, or are they just far more liberal with their playlists over there?

      .

      • Yeah @Johnny Concheroo, our language in the world. Basic English is pretty mainstream in Germany but not exactly nuanced* and the idea of, say, bleeping words on the radio doesn’t exist, which means kids (my students) think words like m@$!f&ck+r are perfectly acceptable. Fuck is now also the main expression of annoyance on normal TV. So obscenities in other languages don’t have this inbuilt heft or flinch factor (read Filthy English for more on this). Nothing much has changed since the Bobby Brown days, only hiphop has become ubiquitous, so everything has accelerated downwards. Unlikely to be much different in Holland or Sweden, although these countries do get to hear more English as their TV is subtitled, not dubbed.

        *A strange churn of supposed Oxford, advertising claims, pop and hiphop

              • Yes @johnny Concheroo, It’s an odd business. I first heard it at the Frisky and Sweaty gym club, oddly enough. The BPM is perfect for doing press ups to. That might explain something. A bizarre experience to be doing my exercises with 60 radiantly healthy Swedes and listening to Frank.

                Nothing is bleeped here, nor do they have a “clean”, radio friendly version of songs such as happened with Don’t marry her fuck me by The Beautiful South in the UK. 10 year old Swedes seem to know all the swear words in English. They know they are rude, What they don’t understand is how very offensive these words are in the English speaking world.

                Has a record ever been banned in Sweden? Maybe @locust knows?

                The level of English here is very good but perhaps most people don’t understand quite how filthy the song is.

                But it’s very catchy and very amusing. Doesn’t that explain a fair bit?

                    • I beg to differ @Kaisfatdad

                      I don’t consider myself a prude, but I hate swearing in pop records. It sounds to me like juvenile showing off and, to my mind at least, is unnecessary. I think that the essence of “pop” is that it is light, preferably witty and literate, and made for mass (indiscriminate) broadcast. It stuff you hum as you go about your daily life.

                      I far prefer “Forget You” to “Fuck You”. For me, the swear word/phrase jars. My copy of “The Lady Killer” is the “clean” version, without “Fuck You” on it. In addition to my dislike of swearing in songs, I didn’t want my daughter (who was at the time about 11 or 12) putting the CD on and hearing it.

                      Ages ago (before the AW crash), there was a thread about swearing in records and I remember saying that there was only one record in which I did mind a swear word (“Precious” by The Pretenders). Not long after the thread, I remember hearing a couple of other songs that had swear words in them (I forget which now) and thinking that maybe I’d been a bit hasty in naming just one.

                      Nevertheless, I stand by my view. The “fuck off” in “Precious” fits with the song; the “fuck you” in “Fuck You” is as attention-seeking and gratuitous as an FCUK t-shirt. (It just came to my mind that as a 13 year old, I had a red t-shirt with a polo mint in the front of it and below the mint, the word “Suck”. I remember wearing it to the dentist one time and, as I was lying in the chair, the dentist saying to me (with obvious disdain) something like “that’s a very interesting shirt you have on, young man”. “Fuck You” and its ilk is just like that.)

                      I am tagging @Declan and @johnny-concheroo because I am interested in their views too.

                • No, Swedish radio never banned music, @Kaisfatdad, but they would stamp a “dödskallemärkning” (scull and crossbones) on the sleeves of “innapropriate” records in the huge gramophone archive, as a recommendation for producers looking for material for their radio shows.
                  They were free to play them, but made aware that perhaps they weren’t quite suitable to play in a show for children, for exemple.

                  Regarding “Bobby Brown”: I think Swede’s just find smutty lyrics highly amusing and not inappropriate at all. Bengt Sändh and Finn Zetterholm recorded an album of dirty folk songs which was a big hit – me and my friends (all girls) would sing along to those songs in the car when we were teenagers – and they were really filthy!
                  Here’s one classic exemple:

                  • Thanks! I see what you mean @locust. They don’t pull any punches.

                    I presume you know the very NSFW reggae of Judge Dread,

                    Needless to say this was immediately banned by the BBC. And then of course became a big hit.

                    • Re swearing @Pajp. On your side on this one, I don’t think swearing has any place in pop music and if it is done, it suggests another agenda or ignorance* For this reason, my hiphop collection of one CD won’t be expanding any time soon.

                      Actually, a well-placed curse can be effective. You know the old adage that Zappa could have produced any number of radio hits if he hadn’t insisted on putting fuck in everywhere? Grain of truth there. Or someone like Cowboy Junkies never swearing in 30 years of making records, until the serious and fragrant Margo did.

                      Otherwise let me reiterate my (non-original) thought on the flinch factor. We learn in our own language that certain words are taboo or designed to shock. They make us flinch. This is exactly what doesn’t translate well between languages. Use the worst words from, say, Dutch and they’re only words, even if you know what they mean.

                      *I’ve always hated the fact that people in the part of Ireland I come from sprinkle every sentence with fucks, simply because their vocabulary is lacking.

                      Oh, and that Cowboy Junkies song just about qualifies as pop

  87. Colin Blunstone

    Pop for grown-ups. As a young-ish man, I bought this from a newsagent that had a rack of (I suppose) ex-jukebox singles – the middles were punched out. I’d been too young to have heard it when it was out, but old enough then to appreciate it.

  90. New Radicals – You Get What You Give

    Trufax dept: Gregg Alexander out of the New Radicals was Oscar nominated for one of the songs he wrote for the film Begin Again (which I really like, despite not having any giant monsters or explosions in it)

  104. Nice work Count Jim!

    Now a few more Swedish pop exports that should not be forgotten.

    Cardigans – Rise and Shine. This was their first single. Noshortage of other fine pop songs to choose from.

    Jens Lekman – You are the light

    Probably not so well-known but he ought to be. A wonderful song.

    Roxette – Dressed for success. Not exactly my favourite band, but they are pop personified.

  105. A pop thread without the exquisite voice of Karen Carpenter? What are we thinking?

    They long to be (Close to you)

    And coming right up to the present day, the equally wonderful pipes of Jenny Lewis. The darling of any contemporary pop lover.

    She’s not me

  109. A pair of Cindys. Not the “pop”-est of “pop stars”, perhaps not at all … says he hedging his bets while sitting on a fence, but “pop”-y nonetheless.

    Billy Bragg’s Cindy of a Thousand Lives

    and Brian Eno’s Cindys Tell Me, a tune that has been stuck in my head for days now.

      • Hi @Mike_H There was a thread not so long ago about musical blind-spots: things we’d only discovered lately, or some such.

        Brian Eno would have been my contribution. Of course, I knew of him from early Roxy, having heard of things like “Music for Airports” and his association with Bowie, but I’d not – until recently – ever listened to him. I picked up “Here Come The Warm Jets” and “Before and After Science” in a secondhand shop not so long ago.

        I put “Here Come The Warm Jets” on my phone and, as I was walking to work the other morning, was suddenly struck by “Cindy Tells Me”.

        I’ve played “Before and After Science” at home once and I recognised “Backwater” after listening to it just now on your post. I will have to give the CD a more thorough listen. It may be sacrilegious to say this, but it did strike me just now that “Backwater” and Sailor’s “Glass of Champagne” (above) are not entirely dissimilar.

        • Correction: one of my many entries on a musical blind-spot thread could have been Eno. I did not want to suggest that Eno constitutes the only gap in my musical knowledge.

    • Hi @Kaisfatdad, not sure I can offer you anything too obscure because my tastes are pretty much mainstream, but here’s something that was on one of the Word cover CDs.

      Nightmare of You with “I Want To Be Buried In Your Backyard”. Builds through the first 50-odd seconds to a t-t-t-t-tuneful chorus. Pop-emo?

      nightmare of you i want to be buried in your backyard

          • Thanks @declan. Fine songs both and both that I came to first through cover versions.

            I am not a great Leonard Cohen fan (perhaps born too late?) and first heard Hallelujah as an X-Factor/Britain’s Got Talent retread. Jeff Buckley gives the song a reverence others lack.

            I first heard “See Emily Play” on Bowie’s “Pin-ups”. Again, born too late to have been a Pink Floyd fan at the time, so to speak, at least up until The Wall – at which point I was 15. I’ve just listened to both versions, alternating between the two. As I suppose is to be expected, PF’s is more psychedelic sounding; Bowie’s more rock-y, like “Man Who Sold The World” (I thought “Pin-ups” and “Man Who Sold The World” were closer together in time – I just looked it up, there is 3 years between them).

    • This is the song that got me into buying records. Although I never bought this single, it made me buy their next single, The Groover. Nowhere as good as 20th Century Boy, but by the time I’d saved my pocket money, the next single had come out!

  126. Thanks for “popping” in Tigger. I suspected you’d have a few aces up your sleeve.

    Here’s one you may enjoy.

    It’s a great shame that the wonderful Was (not Was) are remembered for a novelty song and a cover version, when they wrote so many fine songs themselves.

    Anything can happen

    Where did your heart go?

  131. Some of these count only as pop cos they were, um, popular, Tiggs. The charts in the 70s were full of stuff far too varied to be “just” pop. So Steve Miller Band and Family don’t count. The tosh in your earlier outpouring, however, yes, spot on.

  132. Time for some sophisticated acid jazz hits.

    Jhelisa – Friendly pressure

    Young disciples – Apparently nothing

    Brand new Heavies – Dream come true

    US3 – Canteloop

  137. The Brill Building deserves a thread in its own right.

    Carol King describes working there:

    Every day we squeezed into our respective cubby holes with just enough room for a piano, a bench, and maybe a chair for the lyricist if you were lucky. You’d sit there and write and you could hear someone in the next cubby hole composing a song exactly like yours. The pressure in the Brill Building was really terrific—because Donny (Kirshner) would play one songwriter against another. He’d say: “We need a new smash hit”—and we’d all go back and write a song and the next day we’d each audition for Bobby Vee’s producer.

    Here are just a few of the hits that emerged from that Tower of Song.

    Breaking up is hard to do (Sedaka & Greenfield)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUtkpIINDyw

    Yakety Yak (Lieber & Stoller)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6-2eXjx-h0

    The look of love (Bacharach & David)

    The locomotion (Goffin& King)

    River deep mountain high (Spector-Greenwich-Barry)

    We gotta get out of this place (Mann & Weill)

  138. I believe it’s in the AW regulations that every thread must contain at least one song by Gerry Rafferty and Steely Dan. I would not want to rock the boat.

    Humblebums Please sing a song for us

    Rikki don’t lose that number

  141. This thread is a hoot. I keep remembering long forgotten pop songs.

    My Life Story – 12 reasns why I love her

    The Blow Monkeys – Digging your scene

    Paul Young – Every time you go away (in fact most of No Parlez)

    And here’s one I definitely have not forgotten: Echo Beach by Martha and the Muffins. Dubbed up here by Go Home Productions.

  142. “The best film I’ve ever seen. It really blew my mind!”

    My 13 year old son’s verdict on Kung Fu Panda 3.

    Carl Douglas must have earned a few bob from that franchise. His song is used in all of the films. Not that he needed it. The single originally sold 11 million copies.

  150. You are on a rather marvellous roll this morning Tigger.

    Thanks to you and everyone else who’s been posting here. What a surprise, eh?

    Afterworders getting very enthusiastic about music that is very popular. Where will this end?

    Tamla weren’t the only label with some fine pop singles.

    Stax were giving them a good run for their money

    Otis Redding

    Sam and Dave

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fS9-Yimdhw

  153. A marvellous quartet there Sniffity.

    Made me think of this one: Judy in disguise by John Fred and his Playboys

    And coming right up to date, how about a pop pearl from Carly Rae Jepsen?

    Several modern pop songs seem to be about mobile phones. Like Drake’s Hotline Bling

    BTW, isn’t that a Grace Jones sample?

  158. “I feel so dirty when they start talking cute
    I want to tell her that I love her
    But the point is probably moot..”

    Jessie’s Girl
    Rick Springfield

  162. One of my favourite albums of recent years Bossa Nova Just Smells Funky by Bahama Soul Club I think will appeal to fans of the Mutant Disco comp on Ze Records from the early 80s – a modern funky sound with lots of different influences and plenty songs which would make great singles. Such as these:

    Junkie

    Serious Soul

    Afro Shigida

    • Grouches? Here? If you use that word again, I’ll get very grouchy.

      It’s a very sweet little pop tune, with some fine singing.

      Reminds me that there are some very entertaining a capella groups around these days who are attracting a far younger audience. Like the very witty Pentatonix.

  166. Swearing in pop? What do you think?

    @pajp andI have a very gentlemanly disagreement about which version of Cee Lo’s F++k/Forget you is better. He thinks that the expletive is inappropriate in music that is for broad, general consumption. Which I actually agree with.

    I see Cee Lo as an artist aiming for a more adult audience. And as he is generally fairly sparing with four letter words, I think it works here as a way of expressing his extreme anger. But I can see that I’ve painted myself into a corner there as pop music isn’t for an adult audience.

    I suspect I have been damaged by listening to so much rap music when we have a long journey in a car. Cee Lo is a choirboy compared with most rappers.

    • I just mentioned to Mrs Pajp that you and I were having a discussion (I didn’t say what it was about), but she told me that you were probably right and not to argue with you – it’s Easter, she said.

      If only she knew what were discussing…

      (or, on my part *not cussin’ * Ha!)

  170. I know that we are constantly in danger of skiing off the pop piste and into rock/soul/RnB/Hip Hop (what-have-you) rough, but surely this qualifies…

    Robert Smith at his pop-est. “Friday I’m In Love”.

    And, funnily enough, it’s Friday … and as to the other, of course I am.

  171. Robert Smith of the Cure manages to have a foot in two worlds. He’s not perhaps primarily interested in producing pop songs, but when he does he really delivers the goods.

    A few other examples of great pop songs written by “part-timers”.

    Living in the past

    Sledgehammer

    You can call me Al

    Any more?

    • Those Zep boys could do pop. Jimmy Page cut his teeth in the pop production line after all. Song below is sort of like a heavy Sugar Sugar

      Living Loving Maid
      Led Zeppelin

  175. No no no Mr Concheroo!

    I’ll confess that i was a little over-generous with those Family clips. But they were all hit singles, strange though that may seem in 2016. As pop music, they haven’t aged well at all.

    Bobby Brown? Great pop record.

    Stairway to heaven is no pop record. But the instrumental version of Whole Lotta Love

    Has inspired all manner of pop prancing.

    I think Sabrina’s insanely catchy Boys can convince you of this thread’s enormous pop credentials.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvniAEtHT7k

    Failing that, Lady Gaga should clinch it

  176. How have we got so far in this thread without a mention of Eurovision?

    Moments of pop magic, wobbly ethnic dancing and wardrobe atrocity that we will never forget.

    From France, Sebastian Tellier’s wonderfully catchy Divine.

    Sweden’s euphoric Loreen

    And from Germany, Dschingis Khan by ..er … .Dschingis Khan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pIc6-vO1l4

    The footage of the blissed out Euro-crowd at the beginning applauding anything and everything is strangely scary.

    • I was thinking exactly the same thing today about that well-known football anthem Guantanamera.

      I wonder how many of the louts on the terraces tunelessly bawling “There’s only one David Beckham” (or whoever) are aware that Guantanamera is the most famous Cuban song of all time, covered by countless artists since the Sandpipers’ timeless 1966 original

  183. Middle aged, mediocre and white! AW T shirt!!!

    Marvellous song. I was thinking about which other reggae songs made it over into the mainstream pop charts.

    Maxi Priest – Wild world

    Inner circle Bad boys ( and Sweat)

    Third world’s magnificent Now that we found love

    Jimmy Cliff – The harder they come

    Desmond Dekker – Israelites

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Y2hv-3UCM

    I once saw him live in Stockholm. Half the audience were dreads. the other half skinheads. Yet a very good time was had by all.

  187. Feist, another artist whose day job is not writing pop songs. But this is a humdinger.

    And if you haven’t seen her do it on Sesame Street, do so. I got an instant crush on the lovely Leslie, Maybe I just have a weakness for gamine Canadians?

    Youtube clearly sensed this and just put this song on for me. Feist and fireworks. I think I need to go and lie down,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-iAS18rv68v=l-iAS18rv68&ebc=ANyPxKqpHr_bohi_pK0XjUGX3w9rB3pTsewegKI0g_XjIzVYv7jS1WUOYVSTc1zyQxM1NqZDDHFjZVaLVHexxcg5EOVani5xzw

    • Now there’s an interesting question, Walker!

      No doubt about her talent. But I might argue that perhaps Madonna or Gaga has a broader fan base.

      Rhianna would also give her a good run for her money.

      Timberlake? And Bruno Mars is on the rise. He wears his influences on his sleeve but he is very talented.

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