With apologies to the recent ‘The only person who is on both THIS and THIS…’ thread…
On a similar note, which musicians share a surname (or even a full name?) with someone they have nothing else in common with? eg
Lauryn Hill and Jimmy Hill
Bryan Adams and Gerry Adams
Johnny Marr and Andrew Marr
Over to you…
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An obvious one (to me) is the late American jazz pianist Bill Evans and the still-with-us American jazz/funk saxophonist Bill Evans
Bill Evans (piano) with Stan Getz
Bill Evans (saxophone)
There was also a not-so-well-known British jazz drummer called Tony Levin in the ’60s playing with Joe Harriott, Ronnie Scott, Tubby Hayes etc. Not the same guy who’s now back for a third stint as King Crimson’s bassist
Yusef Lateef was also named Bill Evans prior to changing it, although it was not his birth name, as his mother re-married.
One lives and learns..
Samantha Fox and Samantha Fox
There’s only two Billy Bremners…
Rockpiler/honorary Pretender.
Footballer-cum-streetfighter. 😉
Morrisseys…Steven Patrick, David and Paul.
Bowies…David, Jim and Lester.
Joneses…Davy and Davie.
Joneses…Mick (Foreigner) and Mick (Leeds United)
Clarkes…Allan (The Hollies) and Allan (Leeds United)
Harveys…Polly Jean (PJ) and David (Leeds United)
Madeleys…Richard (and Judy) and Paul (Leeds United)
Hunters…Tab (best actor name ever) and Norman (bites yer legs on behalf of Leeds United)
Coopers…Tommy (comic genius) and Terry (Leeds United)
Cherrys…Neneh (Buffalo Stance) and Trevor (Leeds United)
Gileses…Bill (weatherman) and Johnny (Hardman for, er, Leeds United)
Grays…Macy (I Try) and Eddie and Frank (can you guess?)
I wouldn’t mind, I hated Dirty Leeds…
Another Michael Jones for the collection would be the late guitarist/singer with Man.
And Mick of the Clash
Allan Clarke and late Tory roue Alan Clark
…also the excellent film/TV director Alan Clark (The Firm, Comedians etc)
Johnny Giles wasn’t a hard man for LUFC. Well, not more than most of the team anyway. He was the creative one.
Ray Clemence – goalie for England/Liverpool and Clarence Clemons – parpmeister extraordinaire for Broooce. Are they by any chance related?*
*No.
Clarence Clemons – parpmeister extraordinaire for Broooce. Jake Clemons – parpmeister extraordinaire for Broooce. Are they by any chance related?*
*Yes.
There used to a guitarist called Glenn Campbell who lived in New Zealand. My research (ie quick peek at Wikipedia) tells me was born in California, moved to London where he was a member of The Misunderstood and later in his life settled in NZ
The Misunderstood – apt name for a man with his moniker.
A great favourite of John Peel as I recall – he was always lauding them to the skies on Perfumed Garden and such. I saw them live once – they weren’t very good, in truth, though an extremely noisy rock ‘n’ roll pedal steel guitar was certainly a novelty.
They had two good songs – this and I Can Take You To The Sun. Fortunately they are very very good indeed. Typical Peel band, in other words.
The cobbled-together compo Before The Dream Faded is worth a listen mind.
And he then steeled up for the Juicy Lucy.
(Of course you remember the album cover…….)
Was that Glen Fernando Campbell?
Ross
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Ross_Campbell
Tony Banks: Erstwhile Genesis keyboardist is not to be confused with the deceased Labour politician.
Mike Rutherford: Erstwhile Genesis guitarist is not to be confused with the equally erstwhile motoring journalist.
Not forgetting Manchester born Speedway star Philip David ‘Phil’ Collins.
You want Speedway? How about Sheffield’s old captain marvel Sean Wilson and Cory star come cheesemaker Sean Wilson and country singer Sean Wilson.
Paul Young – Every time he went away he took a piece of meat with him
Paul Young – Proprietor of a miserable restaurant
Also, Paul Young of Manc soft rockers Sad Cafe & the band Genesis could have been, Mike & The Mechanics.
Les Dennis – “comedian”
Les Dennis – French Fire Engines
Dustin Gee – fondly remembered entertainer
Dustin Gee – common complaint of Irish nuns
Very good Mr Digit
Ian Anderson and Ian A. Anderson. The latter does not edit FRoots magazine while playing the flute on one leg.
Chris Rea: Road to Hell hitmaker
Chris Rea: Rugby commentator
Both the New Moon on Monday and Las palabros de Amour hitmakers have a drummer called Roger Taylor.
Neither made it to the Wimbledon semi final in 1973.
Dave Stewart
Dave Stewart
Dave Stewart
Dave Stewart
The well known 2 drummer, keyboards and guitar combo, formed around ex-members of the Tourists, Egg, Camel and Tilt.
Alan White Drummer Yes
Alan White Drummer Oasis
Andy White Drummer session Love Me Do Beatles.
Alan White Yes was also a member of the Plastic Ono Band.
Alan White Yes also played on George’s “All Things Must Pass”.
Quite a CV the guy has.
Back to the confessions thread of a while back….I once though that the Love Me Do tubthumper had been re-recruited by John and George.
I’ll get my coat….
Brian Cox: Actor
Brian Cox: Physicist and keyboard player
Nelsons…Horatio (kissed) and Prince Rogers (Kiss)
Bucks…Peter (guitarist) and Robert (guitarist)
Library/easy vs rock/pop:
Ray Davies and Ray Davies
Dennis Wilson and Dennis Wilson
Then there’s legendary producer Dennis Main Wilson, the middle name there to remind you who’s boss.
…and Rob Davies Mud Guitarist and Cant Get You Out Of My Head songwriter
I used to work with a Ray Davis (not that one)
One of the actors in “The Harder they Come” (1972), who plays a ruthless music producer, was named Bobby Charlton.
I believe there’s another Bobby Charlton, too.
Scott Fitzgerald – top US novelist chappie. Did The Great Gatsby and other very famous books
Scott Fitzgerald – journeyman defender for Wimbledon and Colchester United
Scott Fitzgerald – had a hit If I Had Words in 1978 with Yvonne Keely.
Scott Walker.
Former crooner turned avant gardist and US Republican bell-end politician.
And still on the subject of Walkers:
Johnnie Walker – veteran BBC radio DJ. Thumbs up.
Johnnie Walker – nasty blended whisky. Thumbs down.
Veteran DJ’s real name = Peter Waters Dingley.
From Dingley Dell? No, he’s a Birmingham boy.
Phil Ramone wasn’t one of The Brudders.
Peter Thoms – absurdly tall electric trombonist (ha!) for Landscape and Thomas Dolby.
Peter Thomas – bonkers German film composer
Pete Thomas also played drums between bonkers compositions
There’s Pete Thomas drummer (The Attractions etc) and Pete Thomas saxophonist.
Richard Thompson has recorded with both.
Professor Norman Blake – seminal linguist (steady)
Mr Norman Blake – legendary Fannie (I said steady!!)
And not forgetting Norman Blake – even more legendary American steel guitar and dobro player
(I once went to a songwriter/musician workshop in Berlin because it featured “Norman Blake” – turned out it was only the TFC guy…)
We have two local singer-songwriters who generally open to packed houses around here – one’s called Tom Robinson, the other’s Nick Lowe.
David Mitchell (aka Mark from Peep Show): acclaimed comic actor and quiz show raconteur.
David Mitchell: acclaimed British novelist, author of Cloud Atlas, No 9 Dream, and The Bone Clocks.
Nearly the same name:
Tubby Hayes – English jazz saxophone hero.
Toby Hay – Welsh guitarist/composer.
Eliza Carthy – folk royalty singer/fiddle player.
Eliza McCarthy – classical pianist.
Charlotte Church – Welsh wondergirl.
Charlotte Churchman – blonde stand-in vocalist with Kokomo and solo performer.
Roy Wood – Brummie music legend.
Roy Woods – Canadian singer/songwriter/rapper.
Royston Wood – Estimable old English folkie, part of the Young Tradition and Swan Arcade.
Gerry Conway – has written lots of comics for Marvel and DC (among others).
Gerry Conway – has played drums for Cat Stevens, Jethro Tull and Fairport Convention (among others).
Neil Young, canuck rockstar
Neil Young, goalscorer for the mighty MCFC in the 1969 FA Cup Final.
Also Neil Young – erstwhile manager of among others, Chester FC.
Charlie Gillett, musicological legend.
Charlie Gimbert, Lovejoy’s nemesis.
I always liked the way that John Inman could switch, just like that, from playing Mr ‘I’m free!’ Humphries, to penning groundbreaking pieces about punk for the music papers as Jonh Ingham.
Richard Hoimes – Military Historian
Richard Holmes – Literary biographer/historian
Richard ‘Groove’ Holmes – Hammond B3 funkster.
Chiltons: Alex of Big Star fame, and Tom and Max of driving cars very fast fame.
And Chris, Hull City legend.
Stan Colleymore – footballer and enthusiastic “outdoorsman”
Stan Cullimore – childrens’ author and guitarist for Four Men Who Shook The World.
Shook? Lightly wobbled, maybe.
Are you thinking of the first Stan or the second?
I think the first Stan has made the earth move in public car parks, lay bys and the like.
Got a JCB, has he? Interesting sideline.
Danny Blanchflower – old timey footballer
David Blanchflower – economist who has given up correcting people when they call him Danny…
Richard (John) Thompson Guitarist Fairport etc Singer Songwriter.
Richard John Thompson North-East Singer Somgwriter (now known as RJ Thompson to avoid confusion.
Oh and Andy Roberts Guitar Plainsong Hank Wangford and the “Surrogate Band” on Floyd’s Wall tour.
And Andy Roberts West Indian cricketer.
Further to my Richard Thompson post.
Reading David Hepworth’s Rock Star book, I was reminded that
Linda Thompson wife of Richard.
and Linda Thompson girlfriend of Elvis.
Yesterday in my role as a celebrant registrar I married Richard Thompson ( to his wife, not me) plus at one point my dentist was called Richard Thompson.
Andy Bell from Ride
Andy Bell from Erasure
I’m pretty sure there’s a TV news reporter called Andy Bell too.
When Andy Bell from Ride got married to a Swedish woman, a Swedish tabloid claimed in its pages that Andy Bell, singer in Erasure, was the one getting married to a Swedish woman.
I found that difficult to believe. 🙂
Andy Bell from Erasure joining Oasis is even more unlikely.
“Oooooooohhhhh shummmmteeeeeeeeeiiiiimes””
Channel 5 News.
Mackays…Andy (Roxy windmeister), Dave (Derby County captain, leader, legend), Fulton (Fletcher’s nemesis).
Hardy, Oliver (Greatest comic actor of all time)
Hardy, Francoise (French chanteuse)
Thomas Hardy – there’s gold in that thar depiction of man’s futile struggle against the vagaries of Fate
Tom Hardy – there’s gold in that thar mumblin’
Ironically, it was Oliver Hardy whose nickname was “Babe”.
Theresa May and Teresa May. NSFW – either of them.
One of them fucks people for a living and the other one…
I’m Alan Parker* Urban Warrior, g’night
(*not the film director)
(Or the session guitarist)
As I said on another post.
Phil May singer with the Pretty Things.
Phil May married to T May ( not a pretty thing)
Liverpool Cathedral has a Canon Myles Davies who so far as I know is not a legendary jazz trumpeter
Barry John – rugby scorer
John Barry – film scorer
David Craig – Newcastle United defender
Craig David – indefensible
Oliver James – ‘They F*** You Up – How To Survive Family Life’
Jamie Oliver – ‘They F*** You Up – How To Survive Parents Who Feed You Chips Through The School Railings”
I used to work with a David Craig (not that one).
I used to work with a David Bellamy, also not that one.
George Clinton – US president
Bill Clinton – US president
George Clinton – Funky President
Hillary Clinton – President in the second darkest timeline..
And possessor of the comedically promising maiden name Rodham. Talbot Rothwell would’ve had a field day…
Not forgetting George S. Clinton, composer of various film scores.
John Collins and Collins John both played for Fulham, I think.
You’re thinking of Joan Collins.
Aren’t we all?
David Lodge – forgotten comic novelist / moustachioed sidekick of Spike Milligan (the Q series) and Peter Sellers (the Clouseau films, and life generally)
James Taylor – US Singer/songwriter
James Taylor – Lead singer of Kool & The Gang
James Taylor – Jazz Quartet Leader and Organist
James Taylor – UK/Birmingham Expat living in Dubai ie me
James Taylor – now retired England batsman.
James Taylor – Annoying bloke who works in IT
Did you know i work in IT, or is this another James Taylor?
Definitely another one.
This is a condescending sod who uses phrases like “Do you use Excel much?” or ” are you sure it’s plugged in and powered up?”.
He also insists on referring to himself as James A Taylor
(we believe the A stands for A***hole}
Yes sounds like an C@@t. My apologies on behalf of the name. The wanker.
Mick Mills – REM bloke
Mick Mills – Mustachioed Ipswich Town defensive enforcer
Mrs Mills – terrifying ivory-botherer
Mrs Mills – REM bloke’s mam
Bruce Dickinson – Air Raid Siren
Bruce Dickinson – Little Angel
David “Bruce” Dickinson – Orange Antique Dealer
PA Larkin – jazz and jazz-mag fiend and sometime poet
Pa Larkin – bucolic HE Bates hero
Matt Bellamy – Naturalist
David Bellamy – Bass Player for Muse
Rod Stewart – Rod The Mod
Moira Stewart – Moira The Mod
Frank Bellamy – UK comics artist par excellence
Ma Bellamy – 1970 hit for The Tee Set.
Harry Webb
Gary Webb
They both changed their name for a showbiz career, but there is no denying this is one of the most successful Father and Son teams out there
Just need to find a Barry and a Larry and we’ll have the full set.
Not forgetting their sister Mari
Or Captain Webb, first recorded person to swim the Channel.
Or Spider Webb, mighty sticksman.
Neil Webb.
Played for Reading, Portsmouth, Notts Forest and Man United.
Capped by England 20-odd times, and then finished his career as a Postman.
Peta Webb
Played with Oak
I used this one [‘Who are Gary Webb and Harry Webb better known as?’] for the music quiz I did the other day, I thought it would be an easy one. No one got it
Alan Partridge
Andy Partridge
They’re only making plans for a new clearer syndicated digital sound in the North Norfolk and Swindon areas
Lemon (Jack or Keith?)
Lennon
Lenin
Boy George and Bobby George
Francis Rossi and Paolo Rossi
Don’t forget Charlie George, North Bank Highbury alumnus.
Phil May – Pretty Things vocalist and husband of the Prime Minister
Dick Taylor, guitarist of said beat combo and 1990 Nobel science laureate, Dick (Richard) Taylor who proved the Hawkwind dissertation around the part Quarks play in Strangeness and Charm. (or in protons and neutrons, much the same thing.)
I like this one…
Michael Jackson (born USA, 1958) – member of the Jacksons, who performed “Blame it on the Boogie”
Michael Jackson (born UK, 1947) – co-writer of the song “Blame it on the Boogie”
Jack Michaelson
Short-lived psycho character at the fag-end of Brookside’s TV life
Ah Brookie… never forget Ron Dixon’s arch nemesis… Dick Ronson!!
Buried under the patio, I’ll wager.
Areh, la! Call der busies!
Michael Jackson – Controller of Channel 4 who axed Brookie and so found himself immortalised as short-lived psycho character…
and Michael Jackson, beer hunter.
Wasn’t there another Michael Jackson who was, like, some top British Army General in the Gulf War or something?
That’s General Sir Mike Jackson GCB CBE DSO DL to you, corporal Duco, and don’t slouch.
Our local Labour Party chair is yet another Mike Jackson.
Michael Jackson is the beer writer to me. He blamed it on the bitter…
The Beer Hunter was a big deal at the time. A guy on BBC2 taking beer seriously in the age of Lamot and Skol and Hofmiester… radical stuff.
John Adams – President of the USA
John Quincy Adams – President of the USA
John Adams – Pulitzer Prize winning composer
John Luther Adams – Pulitzer Prize winning composer
And John Adams, lead singer of `80`s hopefuls Private Lives
Gary Roberts Boomtown Rats Guitarist and Gary Roberts former Accrington Stanley and current Wigan midfielder.
I still get mixed up between Gary Oldman Award winning Churchill actor and Gary Olsen 2.4 Children comedy actor
Jim Morrison and James Morrison are not the same.
Neither should one confuse John Cale or JJ Cale (although one often find them in each others record shop ‘section’)
JJ Cale singing “The bugger in the short sleeves fucked my wife” is sadly something we’ll never hear.
“Jim Morrison and James Morrison are not the same”
Indeed, and they aren’t the very talented West Brom midfielder either
“Why has Miles Davis recorded a tribute to Jack Johnson? He’s rubbish!”
I watched a really good British film last night called “God’s Own Country”. It had its cinema release last year.
It was written and directed by a person called ‘Francis Lee’. I assume this is not the burly former Manchester City and England forward and penalty taker, who subsequently became big in toilet paper?
Dan Adler, IT Consultant and Brain Of Britain 2018 Heat 8 winner.
Danny Adler, Roogalator guitarist/vocalist/bandleader and US locomotive engineer.
David Lodge: Booker Prize-shortlisted Small World hitmaker.
David Lodge: Ever-reliable comedy actor and Peter Sellers mate.
David Lodge: Brisbane apartment block.
In a similar vein
Paris Hilton
and Hilton Paris
John Peel – broadcaster and Fall fan, RIP.
John Peal – runs my local tennis club
Suzi Quatro – leather-clad bass mistress
Suzy Quatro – nurse at my local hospital
Nurse Suzy Quatro?
Get me an ambulance!
Please tell me Nurse Quattro wears a leather catsuit.
Stop this at once!!
I thought as I posted that “this is Moose catnip”. Moosenip, perhaps?
I’m not, as it were, “under” Nurse Quatro. She’d need quite a lot of leather to make a catsuit.
Like that’s gonna put me off. Me!
Gene Hunt got there first
https://youtu.be/nXYdNwPf-w0
Carl Davis – Record Producer
Carl Davis – Composer and conductor
Alexis Korner – British blues musician and radio broadcaster, who has sometimes been referred to as “a founding father of British blues”. (Alexis Andrew Nicholas Koerner 19 April 1928 in Paris, France – 1 January 1984 in London, England).
Alexis Kanner – French-born English actor and film director, most notable for appearing in the TV series The Prisoner as Number Forty-Eight in the final episode (Henri Alex Kanner 2 May 1942 in Bagnères-de-Luchon, France – 13 December 2003 in London, England).
Samuel Taylor Coleridge poet, literary critic, philosopher and theologian friend of William Wordsworth, and a founder of the Romantic Movement .
Samuel Coleridge-Taylor was an English composer and conductor, Alice Martin named her son Samuel Coleridge Taylor after the poet Samuel Taylor Coleridge.
Had to visit the hospital recently and was asked if I’d ever lived in the town about five miles away.
No I replied, “Why?”
“Well there’s someone with your name lives there, same first, middle and last name and same date of birth”
What are the chances?
Mingle-mangle, mingle-mangle, mingle-mangle…
There was a Roger Moore film like that – The Man Who Haunted Himself.
In a room of thirty people, there’s a 50% chance that two of them share the same birthday.
23 people.
Twenty three is a an interesting number….go google it… (or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/23_enigma)
Bill Drummond certainly believes so
But we also share 3 names and same date including the year.
Perhaps one of the mathematicians among us could help.
This is good news! All my life I’ve had people looking down their noses telling me I’m “common”, which I – foolishly, it now turns out – believed to be a term of disparagement.
In fact, they were simply struck by the extraordinary coincidence that identical SR 9000 units were to be found the length and breadth of the country..
Are you sure you went home from the hospital with the right parents all those years ago…?
Hmmmmm.
That’ll learn you for giving your AW nom de plume in the, um, clinic. And, from what I have read in your notes, it is a perfectly plausible story. Many people fall onto light bulbs.
I always vacuum naked and slipped, honest. @retropath2
David Mills (erstwhile Middlesbrough and West Brom striker – Britains first half-million pound player)
Mrs Mills (detuned ivory tinker)
I share my real name with (1) author of technical books from Portsmouth, (2) lecturer of audio engineering at Huddersfield university, (3) Professor of Sociology at Bristol, (4) 70s footballer, (5) 70s/80s rugby player, (6) Californian actor.
I bought a book of music journalism by #1. I asked for a signed copy, when it arrived the inscription was “sign it yourself”. Back in the olden days, I sometimes used to recieve his review CDs in the post.
Today, I received a delivery of high-end audio test equipment intended for #2.
Small world, etc.
Bill Evans – late lamented jazz piano wizard.
Bill Evans – jazz tenor/soprano saxophonist.
Both Bills played with Miles Davis at different times.
Miles Davis – USA-based, Lord High Parpmeister General of Jazz
Miles Davis – NZ-based very deep voiced, very tall, heavily London-accented thickset loudmouth sports presenter. Fluent in Portugese.
Sonny Boy Williamson (1914-1948) – blues harmonica player
Sonny Boy Williamson (1912-1965) – incredibly, a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT blues harmonica player
Sonny Bill Williams – top All-Black rugby-playing chap
Jerry Williams, born Sven Erik Fernström (15 April 1942 – 25 March 2018), Swedish singer and actor.
Swamp Dogg, born Jerry Williams, Jr. (born July 12, 1942), American soul and R&B singer, musician, songwriter and record producer.
The one that always amazes me (because it is not exactly a common name)
Warren Ellis – bearded weirdo who writes with Nick Cave
Warren Ellis – bearded weirdo who writes comic books.
(I think the would both accept the description)
(oh, and I am not a former Kilmarnock player, nor a Christian Rock singer, nor a former member of HMHB [sadly])
Graphic novelist W E is also a novelist. I have his debut “Crooked Little Vein” from 2007. I bought it under the misapprehension it was by the Bad Seed W E, but I enjoyed it immensely anyway. I’ve never seen any of his graphic novel work as I’m not particularly interested in that sort of stuff.