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The President Is Positive For Covid 19

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I’m sure there is a word for this…..

He will already have started Remdesivir, which might help a bit, and Hydroxychloroquine, which won’t. The oxygen, CPAP machine and Dexamethasone will be ready.

Anything else that might help?

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        • I’m no conspiracy theorist, but I’m deeply suspicious, too. A very good friend of mine has been involved with Covid testing for the last several months, and knows the guy who owns the company that tests the White House. Every one who works in the White House is tested every other day. If someone leaves the WH, they are tested when they re-enter – regardless of how long they were gone. No-one who tests positive would ever be allowed anywhere near the place – certainly not near the president. And the White House is currently sitting on approx. 60,000 tests, which is why my mate’s company can’t get any tests to run on their machines!

          Of course, Trump could have gone outside the WH with no mask and encountered someone who had contracted Covid and been infected, couldn’t he?

          • You need to consider this, given the way those who lose the favour of the President and his cabal are so easily dispensed with.
            If someone in the top of the White House hierarchy, Trump included, decide one day that they’re too important/in too much of a hurry/can’t be bothered/don’t feel like being tested, are the team on the door with the testing kit going to tell them they can’t come in then, and risk being instantly fired for it? I would say not.

  4. I share Moose’s suspicions.

    Even if it is true, you can be certain that the Trump camp will milk it to the max.

    If it was Biden who had tested positive, I would without doubt say that the election should be postponed. Difficult to see how they can go ahead with one candidate seriously ill.

  6. Me cynical too. If shouting and bawling doesn’t work, go for the sympathy card. It may be true, but smacks a bit of “look at me now”.
    When Boris went down with it, there was a small rise in his ratings, so maybe there’s some advisory shennanigans going on.

    • Seen YouGov graphs elsewehere saying that the bounce occurred before Bojo was admitted to hospital.

      Problem is you can’t really trust anything you see on the internet any more

  7. Well it’s cheered up my morning. I try not wish ill of people but I can make an exception in this case. May it be long and unpleasant.

    I recommend regular injections of disinfectant.

  9. At first I was suspicious, but what can Trump gain from this? Not much as far as I can see. Quarantine takes him off the campaign trail at a crucial time. He won’t like that. And if he does get sick, it betrays all his BS about the threat and risks of the virus.

    • A couple of weeks break in the campaign might be just what he wants at the moment. It means his illness will dominate the agenda for a fortnight at a point when he was looking vulnerable in the polls, and personal attacks by the Biden team will look petty and mean spirited. If he can them emerge miraculously unscathed in a fortnight it can only boost his image.

        • Given his close proximity to Trump in recent pix in which neither
          Is wearing a mask, it’s not out of the question that Pence may well have the virus, too.

          If both he and Trump are incapacitated one would imagine Pelosi will become temporary CIC.

          Anyone know if there is any precedent or constitutional
          Process for delaying the election?

          • No Presidential election has ever been postponed for any reason and only Congress has the ability to do it. What would happen if he (or Biden) actually died would be interesting, mind you.

            Pence has apparently tested negative today.

    • Bu if he gets through it in a couple of days he’ll never stop crowing about how strong he is. “The doctors told me, they all said, Mr President, that much Covid… they said anyone else would be dead by now… I mean it was the most deadliest case they’d ever seen, everyone said so…”

        • I beat it like a true American. I’m not saying the people who died aren’t… I don’t know, I’m not… but, you know, some of them died and… I think true Americans have the blood… I mean the best blood….they have the best genes and they don’t die.

          • The doctors – I have the best doctors – the doctors are saying they never saw anything like this guy! I got the best marks, like, ever for beating the Chinese virus. The best marks! When I walked out that hospital, the, uh … great … American hospital … the doctors and nurses all lined up and applauded! They never saw anything like this guy! My thanks are due to them but I was saying, hey, leave me alone, I can fight this thing on my own, trust me, I have this, go care for the weak and the old, they need you more, and you know what? I was up out of my bed and helping them care for the sick, I was walking the wards, giving encouragement, advice when they asked for it, nobody knows medicine better than me. They want to give me a medal or something, the hospital medal, but I say, hey, just doing my job, the job Obama never did. He let people die, under his watch. Thousand of Americans. And you know what?

    • Did Harding go down?

      Did Nixon?

      Did Trump even bother to start pursuing “Crooked” Hilary through the courts?

      Nay, nay and thrice nay as Sir Francis of Howerd used to say.

      They might loathe each other, but they stick together like shit to a blanket when
      the issue of prosecution rears its ugly head.

      • I have said elsewhere that I believe Trump will get a second term, however, should Biden become president I believe that he would pardon/absolve Trump of all wrongdoing for the sake of national unity.

  12. As I – ahem – mention in the debate thread, he is expected to be out of quarantine the day after the next debate is scheduled.

    And his lovely wife Melanomia is quarantined, too. It would a terrible loss if they were both to perish. Regardless of my personal feelings, which must be put aside.

  15. Allegedly, he is on an antibody cocktail (Regeneron’s), zinc and vitamin D. The first is unproven but sounds logical at least and the latter two may too late to boost his immune system now, if that’s the intention.

    My guess is he will have a daily chest x-ray and I wonder if they’ve already arranged a CT Angiogram.

  16. He’s in Walter Reed (*wupes*), Twitter is suspending accounts of people tweeting “hope he dies” messages, the walls of the White House have been breached by a horde of viral visigoths … nothing to see here, folks …

  17. This just in: Jim Acosta posted this tweet a few minutes ago: “WH officials have serious concerns about Trump’s condition tonight and his symptoms are worse than those of the First Lady at this point, according to our sources.”

    Seeing as how they’d play down (ie lie) about Trump’s condition, this is very serious stuff indeed. The October Surprise.

  18. This will be interesting.

    NPR have published a list of of “what ifs”… https://www.npr.org/sections/latest-updates-trump-covid-19-results/2020/10/02/919468817/-contentious-scenarios-for-ballot-and-government-if-trump-s-health-declines

    Imagine – Trump declines. Doesn’t invoke the 25th.
    Or – dies without invoking 25th. Wins election.
    Or dies, regardless of 25th.

    It is really worrying that the only chance of a peaceful transfer of power, not involving SCOTUS, involves Trump recovering, compus mentis, and losing and conceding. Any other scenario is a shit show that makes your average election in a tyranny advised by Tony Blair (*waves at Kazakhstan*) look like the epitome of democracy.

    My wife is career Federal, currently USAF civilian, serving abroad as I go to join her. Scared isn’t even close.

    Her oath is to the Constitution, so in theory her duty is easy. If Trump (or Pence – who is actually scarier) doesn’t concede? Things could get fugly quickly.

  20. I am in hospital at the moment attached to various tubes, drips, drains and a lovely catheter up my gentlemen’s excuse me. I still can’t find it within myself to wish the guy well. Does that make me a bad person?

  21. What Did You Expect?
    The Atlantic / by David Frum / October 2, 2020.

    There is a great deal you have every right to expect at this moment of crisis, and no reason at all to believe that Donald Trump or his White House will provide it.

    You cannot expect this White House to tell the truth about Trump’s health. You cannot expect the White House to produce any orderly plan for the execution of Trump’s public duties, even to the very limited extent that Trump executed public duties in the first place. You cannot expect the White House to exhibit any regard for the health of others. You cannot expect Trump to gain any wisdom, empathy, or compassion for others.

    What you can expect is a lot of victimhood and self-pity.

    Trump has all his life posed a moral puzzle: What is due in the way of kindness and sympathy to people who have no kindness and sympathy for anyone else? Should we repay horrifying cruelty in equal measure? Then we reduce ourselves to their level. But if we return indecency with the decency due any other person in need, don’t we encourage appalling behavior? Don’t we prove to them that they belong to some unique bracket of humanity, entitled to kick others when they are writhing on the floor, and then to claim mercy when their own crimes and cruelties cast them upon the floor themselves?

    Americans are dead who might have been alive if Trump had met the challenge of COVID-19 with care and responsibility—or if somebody else, literally almost anybody else, had been president instead. Millions are out of work, in danger of losing their homes, living in fear. Tens of millions of young people have suffered disruption to their education, which will follow them through life. The pandemic was not Trump’s fault, but at every turn, he made things worse than they had to be—because at every turn, he cared only for himself, never for the country. And now he will care only for himself again.

    Trump should never have been allowed anywhere near any public office. Wish him well, but recognize that his deformed spirit will never be well—and that nothing can be well for the country under his leadership.

  22. A tweet from Trump a few hours ago. It reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons when the ghost turned out to be Monty Burns tripped out on meds and calling, ‘Peace and love! Peace and love!’ They might want to revisit the dosage.

      • I think that one is too odd not to have been. The most recent ones read like someone attempting to mimic his style, and finding that it is deceptively difficult. Half of Twitter thinks he isn’t ill at all, and half that he is much more ill than the White House is letting on. I can’t know of course, but I suspect the latter.

  25. Day one seems to have gone well. Early days, of course. No Hydroxychloroquine and no oxygen but why antibiotics, though?

    His team looked great in their starched white coats and pale blue surgical masks. Were they all men? No. Maybe a few women, none of whom are doctors. And they all look so young, just like the police.

  26. The press conference was completely done for optics although I am surprised that they went with a crowd of medics in white coats – given the connotations that image has. Unless that is exactly what we are seeing.

    Right now, a medicated Trump is on his knees, sobbing, on the floor of a comfortable padded cell – he shouts “Don’t you understand ? I’m the President’ of the USA! I can have you all killed!” On the other side of a one-way mirror, doctors wearing masks exchange “it’s worse than we thought” glances.

  28. Now, it seems he was given oxygen twice, once for at least an hour, because the levels had dropped significantly. Plus, they have started Dexamethasone, which is normally deployed for serious illness. He is already on antibiotics, presumably for a pneumonia. I wonder what the lung scan shows. Bilateral interstitial pneumonia is characteristic of severe covid.

  31. As much as I despise the Orange Turd and would love to see him drown in his own Hubris I can’t help thinking that a dead Donald could be the worst outcome. Are we ready for Donald the Martyr? The Coronavirus hoax orchestrated by Hilary/Obama/Satanists as a cover to murder the One True Leader? His followers are batshit crazy enough to believe it. And they have guns..

  33. Is he going for the sympathy vote? I would like to think not but planet Trump and his following band of believers appear to exist on a different planet to other Earthlings – infected , dead or otherwise.

    But does his MAGA programme plus sympathetic followers create enough currency for the orange overlord to extend this ongoing shit show?

    • He needs to attract votes from outside his core to win. Either that or stop people in blue areas voting altogether.

      Looking at the numbers testing positive in the White House, how can anyone with an ounce of sense think anything other than ‘fucking idiots!’? The latest polls taken after his diagnosis suggest the public think he has only himself to blame.

  35. I don’t quite know how to process what I have just seen from his own twitter account.

    Sound-tracked by heroic music, he’s helicoptered back to the White House and he’s stood on the balcony without a mask. He salutes the helicopter as it flies away. He is upbeat, jaunty, wearing jeans and energetically doing the twist* – he’s come back! It’s a miracle!

    I really do hope he’s recovered – but, honestly, just when you think he can’t be any more of a bell end…

    *not really

    • Propaganda worthy of Benito. Did you see him though, struggling to catch his breath? I’m giving him ten days tops before he’s ordering pizza with Herman Cain.

          • He could have scored a hundred million President points. With very little effort. He could have played the sympathy card very deftly with just a scintilla of humility and common sense.

            ‘Wow, I caught the virus. A mild dose so it has seemed but I owe a lot to the level of care a President receives. It made me consider all of those who have suffered far more than me’. And so on. Easy.

            But no. Stomping about almost gloating about it all and still shedding the virus in areas of the White House. He is manifestly unhinged.

          • I think most of us feel that way Tigger, even though it isn’t exactly a reflection of our Higher Selves. But I feel better thinking he has done enough damage to ruin his electoral hopes by infecting half the White House, the crazy selfish Joyride to his supporters, insulting the 200,000 dead of Covid in US by implying if they had not been “afraid” and been more positive they could have beaten this and saying “Don’t be scared of Covid” when it is manifestly v dangerous. Oh and the sickening speech about how he was leading the country by getting it, and then the commemorative coin you can buy from the White House, “Trump Beat Covid” FFS! All that damage is bound to affect how the American population feels and election results and No More President Trump will be a profound relief.

  36. I think he’s quite enjoyed being the centre of attention for once…

    The colossal prick. Get him back to work burying himself in scandal and incompetence.

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