I’m sure there is a word for this…..
He will already have started Remdesivir, which might help a bit, and Hydroxychloroquine, which won’t. The oxygen, CPAP machine and Dexamethasone will be ready.
Anything else that might help?
The President Is Positive For Covid 19
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Bleach. Gallons of it – can’t be too careful.
Seriously, I’m deeply suspicious of this, close to an election he expects to lose.
He “expects to lose” or is expected to lose?
Ah! The latter, I spose.
I’m no conspiracy theorist, but I’m deeply suspicious, too. A very good friend of mine has been involved with Covid testing for the last several months, and knows the guy who owns the company that tests the White House. Every one who works in the White House is tested every other day. If someone leaves the WH, they are tested when they re-enter – regardless of how long they were gone. No-one who tests positive would ever be allowed anywhere near the place – certainly not near the president. And the White House is currently sitting on approx. 60,000 tests, which is why my mate’s company can’t get any tests to run on their machines!
Of course, Trump could have gone outside the WH with no mask and encountered someone who had contracted Covid and been infected, couldn’t he?
You need to consider this, given the way those who lose the favour of the President and his cabal are so easily dispensed with.
If someone in the top of the White House hierarchy, Trump included, decide one day that they’re too important/in too much of a hurry/can’t be bothered/don’t feel like being tested, are the team on the door with the testing kit going to tell them they can’t come in then, and risk being instantly fired for it? I would say not.
The word is karma.
I knew there was something I liked about this bug.
Reply to OP’s query if anything else might help…
A personality transplant?
I share Moose’s suspicions.
Even if it is true, you can be certain that the Trump camp will milk it to the max.
If it was Biden who had tested positive, I would without doubt say that the election should be postponed. Difficult to see how they can go ahead with one candidate seriously ill.
Worst case scenario is that he doesn’t get properly ill and comes out of quarantine saying “Told you so, fake news”.
Exactly this. Being a narcissist he will only judge the virus by his own experience, and being a lunatic, if he gets it really bad he will blame someone (China) for it.
Me cynical too. If shouting and bawling doesn’t work, go for the sympathy card. It may be true, but smacks a bit of “look at me now”.
When Boris went down with it, there was a small rise in his ratings, so maybe there’s some advisory shennanigans going on.
Seen YouGov graphs elsewehere saying that the bounce occurred before Bojo was admitted to hospital.
Problem is you can’t really trust anything you see on the internet any more
Well it’s cheered up my morning. I try not wish ill of people but I can make an exception in this case. May it be long and unpleasant.
I recommend regular injections of disinfectant.
Let’s hope nothing bad happens. Like he recovers.
Tell your personal aides to stay away from Sean Hannity when they are closing the portals on the equine residential facility?
At first I was suspicious, but what can Trump gain from this? Not much as far as I can see. Quarantine takes him off the campaign trail at a crucial time. He won’t like that. And if he does get sick, it betrays all his BS about the threat and risks of the virus.
A couple of weeks break in the campaign might be just what he wants at the moment. It means his illness will dominate the agenda for a fortnight at a point when he was looking vulnerable in the polls, and personal attacks by the Biden team will look petty and mean spirited. If he can them emerge miraculously unscathed in a fortnight it can only boost his image.
Gives them a chance to attack Pence. He could be President next week
Given his close proximity to Trump in recent pix in which neither
Is wearing a mask, it’s not out of the question that Pence may well have the virus, too.
If both he and Trump are incapacitated one would imagine Pelosi will become temporary CIC.
Anyone know if there is any precedent or constitutional
Process for delaying the election?
No Presidential election has ever been postponed for any reason and only Congress has the ability to do it. What would happen if he (or Biden) actually died would be interesting, mind you.
Pence has apparently tested negative today.
“attacks by the Biden team will look petty and mean spirited”
What like this one 4 years ago when Hilary Clinton was suffering pneumonia
Bu if he gets through it in a couple of days he’ll never stop crowing about how strong he is. “The doctors told me, they all said, Mr President, that much Covid… they said anyone else would be dead by now… I mean it was the most deadliest case they’d ever seen, everyone said so…”
I tested positive more bigly than any other president. Obama never tested positive as bigly as me.
I beat it like a true American. I’m not saying the people who died aren’t… I don’t know, I’m not… but, you know, some of them died and… I think true Americans have the blood… I mean the best blood….they have the best genes and they don’t die.
The doctors – I have the best doctors – the doctors are saying they never saw anything like this guy! I got the best marks, like, ever for beating the Chinese virus. The best marks! When I walked out that hospital, the, uh … great … American hospital … the doctors and nurses all lined up and applauded! They never saw anything like this guy! My thanks are due to them but I was saying, hey, leave me alone, I can fight this thing on my own, trust me, I have this, go care for the weak and the old, they need you more, and you know what? I was up out of my bed and helping them care for the sick, I was walking the wards, giving encouragement, advice when they asked for it, nobody knows medicine better than me. They want to give me a medal or something, the hospital medal, but I say, hey, just doing my job, the job Obama never did. He let people die, under his watch. Thousand of Americans. And you know what?
I wish him well. I want him to recover. Because I want to see him concede, leave the White House and begin the years of legal trouble that awaits.
Did Harding go down?
Did Nixon?
Did Trump even bother to start pursuing “Crooked” Hilary through the courts?
Nay, nay and thrice nay as Sir Francis of Howerd used to say.
They might loathe each other, but they stick together like shit to a blanket when
the issue of prosecution rears its ugly head.
I have said elsewhere that I believe Trump will get a second term, however, should Biden become president I believe that he would pardon/absolve Trump of all wrongdoing for the sake of national unity.
Arf.
As I – ahem – mention in the debate thread, he is expected to be out of quarantine the day after the next debate is scheduled.
And his lovely wife Melanomia is quarantined, too. It would a terrible loss if they were both to perish. Regardless of my personal feelings, which must be put aside.
I’m sure he’ll recover. He tested positive for covfefe a couple of years ago and survived, something nobody else has done.
Definitely karma. The Earth fights back. The sooner this monster is no longer on it the better.
Sadly, this monster is just a virulent strain of a powerful ideology that places short term greed over long term sustainability. The mushroom is just the fruit, not the body. The conditions created him. There needs to be a just transition or the fertile ground that enabled him will spore another to take his place.
Yes. And the next one will be a more sophisticated and sinister manifestation. Someone with more intellect and ability.
It’s because Trump is such a vast mountain of vanity and nastiness that we can see him for what he is with the naked eye from miles away. The next will be less easy to spot.
Bloody hell! It’s Alan Titchmarsh!
i’m developing the moobs, too. It’s frightening.
Damn those toxic mushrooms!
Too much listening to Ozric Tentacles, man! My third eye has inverted and seem the damage to my chakra system from within.
One of the possible side effects of taking UV light inside the body is third eye blindness.
What a depressing (and probably true) sentiment….
You talkin’ to me? I said are you talkin’ to me?
Oh, you are! It kind of is depressing if you let it. But this optimistic pessimism’*also shows where the real work needs to be done – empowering the disempowered, and helping them (and us all) find viable and sustainable ways out of the mess we face and the greater messes coming our way.
*Copyright @mike_h
What a depressing (and probably true) sentiment….
What a depressing (and probably true) sentiment….
Allegedly, he is on an antibody cocktail (Regeneron’s), zinc and vitamin D. The first is unproven but sounds logical at least and the latter two may too late to boost his immune system now, if that’s the intention.
My guess is he will have a daily chest x-ray and I wonder if they’ve already arranged a CT Angiogram.
Latest is he had developed a ‘low grade fever’. ‘The lowest grade fever … doctors were amazed, they said, they said … we’ve never seen a fever as low as this, it’s an incredible fever …’
Covid + Fever = Covfefer. He knew what he was talking about all along
It all makes sense! You’re on to something here chiz.
He’s in Walter Reed (*wupes*), Twitter is suspending accounts of people tweeting “hope he dies” messages, the walls of the White House have been breached by a horde of viral visigoths … nothing to see here, folks …
This just in: Jim Acosta posted this tweet a few minutes ago: “WH officials have serious concerns about Trump’s condition tonight and his symptoms are worse than those of the First Lady at this point, according to our sources.”
Seeing as how they’d play down (ie lie) about Trump’s condition, this is very serious stuff indeed. The October Surprise.
Don’t jinx it.
And it seems that Mark Meadows has contradicted the doctor’s glowing report, saying that the next 24 hours are critical.
This will be interesting.
NPR have published a list of of “what ifs”… https://www.npr.org/sections/latest-updates-trump-covid-19-results/2020/10/02/919468817/-contentious-scenarios-for-ballot-and-government-if-trump-s-health-declines
Imagine – Trump declines. Doesn’t invoke the 25th.
Or – dies without invoking 25th. Wins election.
Or dies, regardless of 25th.
It is really worrying that the only chance of a peaceful transfer of power, not involving SCOTUS, involves Trump recovering, compus mentis, and losing and conceding. Any other scenario is a shit show that makes your average election in a tyranny advised by Tony Blair (*waves at Kazakhstan*) look like the epitome of democracy.
My wife is career Federal, currently USAF civilian, serving abroad as I go to join her. Scared isn’t even close.
Her oath is to the Constitution, so in theory her duty is easy. If Trump (or Pence – who is actually scarier) doesn’t concede? Things could get fugly quickly.
White House latest tweet: “The President is living on a farm upstate with plenty of fresh air and room to run around.”
His piece to camera saying he was off to the hospital looked like something a hostage would be ordered to record.
I am by no means a conspiracy theorist but I think he’s been captured by David Icke.
Was he the Snooker journalist?
Among other sports, yes. He was a regular face on the BBC for years – an unremarkable sports reporter.
Goalkeeper for Coventry City as well I think
Pope John Paul II, Albert Camus, Julio Iglesias, David Icke -all top class goalies.
and Pavarotti – an effective keeper as he basically just filled the goal mouth
Thanks – yes, I knew there was someone else but I couldn’t remember who it was.
Not forgetting the bodyguard for the ex French president 62 – 68.
The De Gaulle keeper.
Oh boy.
I read your quotes, H.P., and I can’t tell which are parody and which real. Almost everything people surrounding the president say seems crazy.
Was the Acosta one genuine?
Yes.
I am in hospital at the moment attached to various tubes, drips, drains and a lovely catheter up my gentlemen’s excuse me. I still can’t find it within myself to wish the guy well. Does that make me a bad person?
I think he deserves very slightly more compassion than he has for others; that is to say, he deserves next to no compassion at all.
But there’s the dilemma. If we wish ourselves to be better then how do we counter and be effective?
Get well better than Trump, @boneshaker
There, no offence to no- one.
Thanks Retro.
I read someone yesterday: “I’m against executions. Even Karmic ones.”
Biden has pulled his negative attack ads. Trump’s campaign hasn’t. And, we are all reminded how he goaded Hilary when she caught pneumonia in 2016. “She can’t even walk fifteen feet to her car. Give me a break.” Managing to walk to the helicopter unaided was a win for him last night.
There’s no moral dilemma here. You don’t have to send him a get well soon card to show you’re good. You’re not running for president against him. And gloating is unnecessary (how I wish there was a long German word for “gloating” that I could have used in the same way I wish there was a smart French word for “fake”, to show my intellectual poise).
I quite like ‘karmicarzholenheit’. Not intellectual but gratuitously insulting.
Hope you get well Bones!
Hope you recover to see the ridiculous, flappy haired old cretin go to jail.
Get well soon, Boneshaker. If you are a bad person (and you are not), he is much, much worse.
All the best
Fuckin’ hell Bones, hope you get through this unscathed, which is not an idle wish given all the discussion of “long covid” symptoms. Catheters! I thought from TV news reports that it was all fragrant angels appearing to you in oxygen tents.
Hope you get pulled out asking for the Biden victory party 😉
What Did You Expect?
The Atlantic / by David Frum / October 2, 2020.
There is a great deal you have every right to expect at this moment of crisis, and no reason at all to believe that Donald Trump or his White House will provide it.
You cannot expect this White House to tell the truth about Trump’s health. You cannot expect the White House to produce any orderly plan for the execution of Trump’s public duties, even to the very limited extent that Trump executed public duties in the first place. You cannot expect the White House to exhibit any regard for the health of others. You cannot expect Trump to gain any wisdom, empathy, or compassion for others.
What you can expect is a lot of victimhood and self-pity.
Trump has all his life posed a moral puzzle: What is due in the way of kindness and sympathy to people who have no kindness and sympathy for anyone else? Should we repay horrifying cruelty in equal measure? Then we reduce ourselves to their level. But if we return indecency with the decency due any other person in need, don’t we encourage appalling behavior? Don’t we prove to them that they belong to some unique bracket of humanity, entitled to kick others when they are writhing on the floor, and then to claim mercy when their own crimes and cruelties cast them upon the floor themselves?
Americans are dead who might have been alive if Trump had met the challenge of COVID-19 with care and responsibility—or if somebody else, literally almost anybody else, had been president instead. Millions are out of work, in danger of losing their homes, living in fear. Tens of millions of young people have suffered disruption to their education, which will follow them through life. The pandemic was not Trump’s fault, but at every turn, he made things worse than they had to be—because at every turn, he cared only for himself, never for the country. And now he will care only for himself again.
Trump should never have been allowed anywhere near any public office. Wish him well, but recognize that his deformed spirit will never be well—and that nothing can be well for the country under his leadership.
I’m waiting for Bill Barr to announce that he’s opened an investigation into whether this outbreak in the White House was caused deliberately by Antifa/BLM/left-wing radicals/Hillary Clinton.
Given his intimate chat with Kellyanne Conway on the White House lawn, I think we’re waiting for Bill Barr to test positive.
Bill Barr – another fat fuck for whom I’m tuning the world’s smallest violin.
Aaaaaand… https://twitter.com/travisakers/status/1312884521877082115?s=21
A tweet from Trump a few hours ago. It reminds me of that episode of the Simpsons when the ghost turned out to be Monty Burns tripped out on meds and calling, ‘Peace and love! Peace and love!’ They might want to revisit the dosage.
I wonder if all these tweets are sent by him alone.
I think that one is too odd not to have been. The most recent ones read like someone attempting to mimic his style, and finding that it is deceptively difficult. Half of Twitter thinks he isn’t ill at all, and half that he is much more ill than the White House is letting on. I can’t know of course, but I suspect the latter.
He’s as ill as Boris was. Which is to say that is he is very ill in terms of being a needy fuck-up but not actually ill in terms of covid. This stinks of “code red”
Donald Trump has tested positive for the coronavirus
Nothing trivial I Hope.
The conspiracy theories have already started..
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/03/donald-trump-base-stays-loyal-president-fights-covid-19
Day one seems to have gone well. Early days, of course. No Hydroxychloroquine and no oxygen but why antibiotics, though?
His team looked great in their starched white coats and pale blue surgical masks. Were they all men? No. Maybe a few women, none of whom are doctors. And they all look so young, just like the police.
I watched that. Doctor refused to confirm Trump had not been on oxygen and said he was diagnosed 72 hrs ago which is much earlier than what we have heard. Also meaning Trump was out and about potentially spreading it after a positive test. Wonder if we only got to hear about it when his condition deteriorated?
Being generous, they may have decided his illness started three days ago with a retrospectoscope but the test only confirmed on Friday. Even so, he continued to mix with people when symptomatic. If he’d already had a positive test and continued to work, that would be reckless endangerment at they very least.
I might have misheard antibiotic instead of antibody.
Maybe, they also wouldn’t say when he last had a negative test, and he is supposed to have them daily (at least).
I’ve just learnt that Dr Sean Conley, the man in charge of his care, is an osteopath.
*raised eyebrows*
https://mobile.twitter.com/EamonJavers/status/1312429193385385987?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1312429193385385987%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bbc.co.uk%2Fnews%2Flive%2Fworld-54382914
Psychopath might be more useful.
And the fella standing to one side (Conley’s right) had a coat proudly saying his specialty was childcare and obstetrics. Suppose the first bit is bang on.
The press conference was completely done for optics although I am surprised that they went with a crowd of medics in white coats – given the connotations that image has. Unless that is exactly what we are seeing.
Right now, a medicated Trump is on his knees, sobbing, on the floor of a comfortable padded cell – he shouts “Don’t you understand ? I’m the President’ of the USA! I can have you all killed!” On the other side of a one-way mirror, doctors wearing masks exchange “it’s worse than we thought” glances.
Is that now or the last three and a half years?
There’s something going here though isn’t there? Perhaps an elaborate set up so he can skidaddle for whatever reason because he has finally realised the game is up. He’ll be on the next island along from Pope Benedict.
Three words: This. Fuckin’. Stinks.
One word: Yep.
Which bit exactly? Can you be more specific?
Are you drilling into masonry or wood?
Tin
DIY isn’t my forte. In spite of what people shout at me in the street.
Slow day, Mr Saucecraft?
….and the sun is beating on the soldiers by the side of the road.
Reasonably slow, I like to think.
Nonsense. You’ve still got most of your wits about you.
Well, he has when he’s on this site.
Reasonably about me, I think.
Arf (@salwarpe ), you’re wasted here!
He’s got “Physician to the President” embroidered on his white coat. I wouldn’t ask this clown for a fucking cough-drop.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-us-canada-54403742
Now, it seems he was given oxygen twice, once for at least an hour, because the levels had dropped significantly. Plus, they have started Dexamethasone, which is normally deployed for serious illness. He is already on antibiotics, presumably for a pneumonia. I wonder what the lung scan shows. Bilateral interstitial pneumonia is characteristic of severe covid.
“Bilateral interstitial pneumonia is characteristic of severe covid” – *sigh* we knew that. We’re not stupid.
I just wondered if that was on the scan as it would indicate SEVERE disease! 😍
I’d love to contribute to this thread, but I’m too busy at the cauldron face.
https://i.etsystatic.com/13519651/r/il/e6b329/1097546438/il_570xN.1097546438_lowf.jpg
As much as I despise the Orange Turd and would love to see him drown in his own Hubris I can’t help thinking that a dead Donald could be the worst outcome. Are we ready for Donald the Martyr? The Coronavirus hoax orchestrated by Hilary/Obama/Satanists as a cover to murder the One True Leader? His followers are batshit crazy enough to believe it. And they have guns..
Yes. Trump dying right now would not be a good thing.
Quite apart from the reaction of his batshit supporters, imagine all the other world leaders, racking their brains to find nice things to say about him.
Seriously fucked health for a number of years, following enforced retirement, would be a much better outcome.
I was going to say we should like him to be well enough to stand trial. But that’s never going to happen anyway, so a good long extended period of physical suffering will have to do.
However bad Trump is, Mike Pence would be a million times worse.
This is a man who is so caught up in religious fundamentalism, he makes the Taliban look relaxed.
Won’t be in a room alone with another woman…
Nor will I – although that’s usually down to the women.
WRT Trump: how will someone who watches seven hours of tv a day and has been known to tweet 70 times in an hour cope with forced retirement?
He goes out for a joyride….
Disgusting. Horrifying. He put all the Secret Service men in the car with him at extreme risk and they have to be quarantined.
Meanwhile his supporters crammed together to be acknowledged by their hero still aren’t wearing masks – at what point do they understand if this hasn’t got through to them?
“You can’t reason with a Fucking Idiot.”
Slight digression, but did you hear about the Islamic fundamentalist pantomime?
Ali Baba & his 40 mates without any hands…
I’d quite like to see him drown in his own turd, but I’m not that fussed about the method at the end of the day.
I posted this link earlier, the third paragraph should answer your question…
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/03/donald-trump-base-stays-loyal-president-fights-covid-19
Is he going for the sympathy vote? I would like to think not but planet Trump and his following band of believers appear to exist on a different planet to other Earthlings – infected , dead or otherwise.
But does his MAGA programme plus sympathetic followers create enough currency for the orange overlord to extend this ongoing shit show?
He needs to attract votes from outside his core to win. Either that or stop people in blue areas voting altogether.
Looking at the numbers testing positive in the White House, how can anyone with an ounce of sense think anything other than ‘fucking idiots!’? The latest polls taken after his diagnosis suggest the public think he has only himself to blame.
He has plenty of support also from some people I previously thought of as intelligent:
https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/sex-pistols-john-lydon-praises-22785190
What a flipping rotter.
@moose-the-mooche
That was always a lame, posh attempt at swearing I always thought.
From Steve Jones? Brought up in poverty and effectively illiterate.
It’s funny. The clip isn’t at all funny until he says that. “Dirty fucker” isn’t funny. “Fucking rotter” is great.
It’s like being called a cocksucking bounder.
TMFTL
@dai his book is a great read.
I don’t quite know how to process what I have just seen from his own twitter account.
Sound-tracked by heroic music, he’s helicoptered back to the White House and he’s stood on the balcony without a mask. He salutes the helicopter as it flies away. He is upbeat, jaunty, wearing jeans and energetically doing the twist* – he’s come back! It’s a miracle!
I really do hope he’s recovered – but, honestly, just when you think he can’t be any more of a bell end…
*not really
Propaganda worthy of Benito. Did you see him though, struggling to catch his breath? I’m giving him ten days tops before he’s ordering pizza with Herman Cain.
I must say though that even if I’ve had a mask on for a minute – it’s good to have a bit of pant.
Why not combine both experiences by stretching a pair of your wife’s shreddies from ear to ear*?
(*cue …)
I’d like to see him sharing a pizza with Herman Melville.
What do you reckon, retro? is he going to crash & burn this weekend? I don’t wish ill on anyone but I’m kind of hoping he will.
He could have scored a hundred million President points. With very little effort. He could have played the sympathy card very deftly with just a scintilla of humility and common sense.
‘Wow, I caught the virus. A mild dose so it has seemed but I owe a lot to the level of care a President receives. It made me consider all of those who have suffered far more than me’. And so on. Easy.
But no. Stomping about almost gloating about it all and still shedding the virus in areas of the White House. He is manifestly unhinged.
I think most of us feel that way Tigger, even though it isn’t exactly a reflection of our Higher Selves. But I feel better thinking he has done enough damage to ruin his electoral hopes by infecting half the White House, the crazy selfish Joyride to his supporters, insulting the 200,000 dead of Covid in US by implying if they had not been “afraid” and been more positive they could have beaten this and saying “Don’t be scared of Covid” when it is manifestly v dangerous. Oh and the sickening speech about how he was leading the country by getting it, and then the commemorative coin you can buy from the White House, “Trump Beat Covid” FFS! All that damage is bound to affect how the American population feels and election results and No More President Trump will be a profound relief.
Fingers crossed!
At the moment, he’s high on those steroids. His mood will come crashing down by the end of the week.
I think he’s quite enjoyed being the centre of attention for once…
The colossal prick. Get him back to work burying himself in scandal and incompetence.