We were at the Etihad today so the romance of the cup extends only so far. Quiz question of the future – name the match when10 different players scored for City and Haaland didn’t.
The opportunity is still there, and the result proves that.
Still missing the potential of replays. I do sort of understand the desire to finish on the day, but replays on a damp Wednesday night leading to fixture congestion is a test of squad depth and desire.
Also believe there should be some sort of censure for PL sides playing weaker line ups.
“weaker” it’s still a strong side, but is not the normal first choice.
But it’s the same for smaller and non league sides too. Don’t forget the FA Cup starts back in August and those clubs will also be in the FA Trophy, their own league Cup and county cups, which they are all obliged to enter. And the players mostly all work full time!
Thinking more of the extended European competitions and a glut of international games during the season and then most of the summer. They barely get 2 weeks off in the whole year. Yes of course they are ridiculously well paid, but there has to be some rotation, otherwise careers may well be cut short.
I would remove Premier League teams from the League Cup, 2 domestic cup competitions is probably one too many. The FA Cup could then possibly regain some of it’s lustre
I really find it hard these days to get excited by The Magic of the Cup. I know every club plays far too many games but there will hardly be any, no matter in which league, who plays anything like a first-choice team.
Norwich play Walsall today – not exactly a tie to set the heart racing but once upon a time the ground would have been packed and both sets of supporters would have been dreaming of the Twin Spires. Today, both sides will full of non-regulars and despite tickets costing a tenner the ground will be at best be half-full.
Bah and humbug
True but also say for me a non-season ticket holding mcr city fan the cup is a rare chance to buy 4 tickets for a Sat pm game and go as a family. My £30 ‘membership” allows me to buy exactly one ticket for a prem match.
Also how many casual Walsall fans are there? I’ve been to the Bescot and it’s strictly for the dedicated. They have renamed the Poundland stand recently so there is progress.
I’ve never quite got why clubs in the middle of nowhere in the Premier League, even the Championship, don’t think ‘Hey, Arsenal/Man. Utd./Chelsea are putting out the stiffs, we’ll put out our 1st XI and beat them. They mention a weakened team if they lose, we laugh in their faces’.
The nadir for me was about fifteen years ago. Newcastle United (who had last won a domestic cup half-a-century previously) were at home to Arsenal’s Youth Team in a League Cup quarter-final and so Chris Houghton put out the reserves, and if memory serves they lost 0-4.
Why on earth do that?
No one now remembers Chris Houghton (a ‘Pointless’ answer if ever there was one), but whatever happens in the future, Newcastle United fans will surely have a soft spot for Eddie Howe who has won a domestic cup with the club. I’d have thought that puts him above Kevin Keegan and Bobby Robson too.
@Bingo-Little he’s a top bloke who I met at a mate’s 60th. He was quite happy for me to bend his ear about all things Spurs, for 20 minutes, before agreeing to a photo. The next day I rang my mate and asked him to apologise to the former Spurs great for my fanboying.
“Forget it,” Paul said, “he told me you were a good guy and was really interested in your studio project.”
Yes Tottenham fans certainly remember him. He was a key player in one of the best Spurs sides in the last half century, the great Keith Burkinshaw’s team that won the FA Cup twice in succession, and the UEFA Cup.
Cheers, Niall – that’s great to hear. I actually know a couple of other people who’ve met him and have similarly good things to say.
My Father In Law is a season ticket holder at St James Park of some decades standing. I know that he and his mates still speak fondly of Hughton, and regard his sacking as an error and the start of the fanbase’s problems with Mike Ashley.
I also know there’s a lot of respect for him amongst the black lads I play football with on a Monday night. He’s still the most successful black British manager, I believe, and that counts for something.
Bit of an odd feeling for an Arsenal fan to be defending a former Spurs player, but there we go. From everything I’ve heard, he’s a decent man who is thought of warmly by quite a lot of people, and who deserves a bit of respect,
I remember Chris Hughton well (I even remember the correct spelling of his surname, as does Bingo), if only for his weak challenge on Trevor Steven, from Neville Southall’s high ball, allowing Tricky Trev to go on and score the winner against Spurs, and place Everton in pole position to win the Championship in 1985.
I also remember him in various managerial roles. I think his longest spell was at Brighton.
However it’s as an Evertonian I thank Macclesfield, because their achievement has dominated the headlines and squeezed lesser stories out.
It wouldn’t have been a headline, but Everton’s beyond abysmal penalty shootout performance would have garnered much more publicity were it not for The Macc Lads.
I got the surname right but evidently my phone autocorrected his first name to “Christopher”. Doubt even his Mum calls him that (unless he’s in trouble). 😁
Spelling of his surname, yikes. The geezer below got his first name wrong… ‘Pointless’ answer right there, twice. Fill yer boots!
Trophy meaning Second Division Championship? I’m guessing.
Step forward thirty other clubs, it wasn’t a domestic cup.
I just remember that as the nadir, and I believe it was.
That and Sutton United beating Leeds United a few years ago in the F.A. Cup… the media went crazy over it, the bookies had it at a miserly 5/2. It’s actually the one time I feel a bit sorry for the bookies having to work out such results given such random team selections. How can you call it?
To put that result in perspective, if Wolves still have to visit Man. City this season in the league, they’ll be 16/1 minimum. Probably 20/1. I’d prefer to be sitting on a winning betting slip that says 20/1 than one that says 5/2.
He was a Manager of the Month, black or otherwise. Erm… OK… triffic. Might he not be better remembered if he’d won a trophy or at least competed for it? Newcastle will remember their current manager for far longer.
He’s also well remembered by a lot of West Ham fans for (a) being a genuinely nice bloke and (b) playing an important part in their promotion in 1991. He also played over 50 times for the Republic of Ireland.
He was a truly nice bloke – unfortunately he got the managerial sack at Norwich, producing a team playing the most boring football ever seen at Carrow Road.
I would definitley call that a memorable career with at least three clubs supporters remembering him fondly. Most other football fans will know who he is and most of those would likely think of him positively.
And I was at the Sutton United v Leeds United cup game. We had some decent players out that day and they were terrible.
I’m probably the only AWer who has seen The Macc Lads (Viz magazine’s Sid The Sexist in musical form) in concert.
There was an inflatable sheep (purchased from the Anne Summers shop next door to the venue) passed over the heads of the crowd during ‘No Sheep ’til Buxton’. And a lot of beer, some of which was consumed, lots of which added to the stickiness of the venue carpet.
I’d post a Macc Lads tune, but I’d probably be permanently banned by The Mods. I used to play a girlfried ‘Julie the Schooly’ but she wasn’t amused.
Come on now, fentonsteve, surely the Mods couldn’t object to “Twenty Pints of Boddingtons Every Friday Night?”
[checks lyrics]
Oh, hang on a minute … maybe they could …
And Oxford Utd are in round 4 as well…happy days!
Excellent result. Nothing against Palace per se but good to see the underdog on top for once.
I have less than no interest in any sport but found this most amusing. Hurrah for the underdog.
We were at the Etihad today so the romance of the cup extends only so far. Quiz question of the future – name the match when10 different players scored for City and Haaland didn’t.
And the best goal was scored by the oppoents!
Well two were own goals so doesn’t really count does it?
I seem to remember Man. City winning 10-1 in a league game many years ago. I think it might’ve been against Huddersfield Town.
The opportunity is still there, and the result proves that.
Still missing the potential of replays. I do sort of understand the desire to finish on the day, but replays on a damp Wednesday night leading to fixture congestion is a test of squad depth and desire.
Also believe there should be some sort of censure for PL sides playing weaker line ups.
“weaker” it’s still a strong side, but is not the normal first choice.
I used to agree, but the no. of games top players need to play each year is ludicrous
But it’s the same for smaller and non league sides too. Don’t forget the FA Cup starts back in August and those clubs will also be in the FA Trophy, their own league Cup and county cups, which they are all obliged to enter. And the players mostly all work full time!
Thinking more of the extended European competitions and a glut of international games during the season and then most of the summer. They barely get 2 weeks off in the whole year. Yes of course they are ridiculously well paid, but there has to be some rotation, otherwise careers may well be cut short.
I would remove Premier League teams from the League Cup, 2 domestic cup competitions is probably one too many. The FA Cup could then possibly regain some of it’s lustre
I really find it hard these days to get excited by The Magic of the Cup. I know every club plays far too many games but there will hardly be any, no matter in which league, who plays anything like a first-choice team.
Norwich play Walsall today – not exactly a tie to set the heart racing but once upon a time the ground would have been packed and both sets of supporters would have been dreaming of the Twin Spires. Today, both sides will full of non-regulars and despite tickets costing a tenner the ground will be at best be half-full.
Bah and humbug
True but also say for me a non-season ticket holding mcr city fan the cup is a rare chance to buy 4 tickets for a Sat pm game and go as a family. My £30 ‘membership” allows me to buy exactly one ticket for a prem match.
Also how many casual Walsall fans are there? I’ve been to the Bescot and it’s strictly for the dedicated. They have renamed the Poundland stand recently so there is progress.
5-1 to The Canaries.
Well worth a watch for a tenner.
As usual I was Wrong – ground wasn’t half-empty it was 3/4 full. The tenner price may have been a factor.
I’ve never quite got why clubs in the middle of nowhere in the Premier League, even the Championship, don’t think ‘Hey, Arsenal/Man. Utd./Chelsea are putting out the stiffs, we’ll put out our 1st XI and beat them. They mention a weakened team if they lose, we laugh in their faces’.
The nadir for me was about fifteen years ago. Newcastle United (who had last won a domestic cup half-a-century previously) were at home to Arsenal’s Youth Team in a League Cup quarter-final and so Chris Houghton put out the reserves, and if memory serves they lost 0-4.
Why on earth do that?
No one now remembers Chris Houghton (a ‘Pointless’ answer if ever there was one), but whatever happens in the future, Newcastle United fans will surely have a soft spot for Eddie Howe who has won a domestic cup with the club. I’d have thought that puts him above Kevin Keegan and Bobby Robson too.
Christopher Hughton was the first black manager to ever win the Premier League Manager of the Month award. Plenty of people remember him.
He also won a trophy for Newcastle, at a time when they weren’t being bankrolled by and run for the benefit of some of the worst people on the planet.
@Bingo-Little he’s a top bloke who I met at a mate’s 60th. He was quite happy for me to bend his ear about all things Spurs, for 20 minutes, before agreeing to a photo. The next day I rang my mate and asked him to apologise to the former Spurs great for my fanboying.
“Forget it,” Paul said, “he told me you were a good guy and was really interested in your studio project.”
Day made.
Yes Tottenham fans certainly remember him. He was a key player in one of the best Spurs sides in the last half century, the great Keith Burkinshaw’s team that won the FA Cup twice in succession, and the UEFA Cup.
Cheers, Niall – that’s great to hear. I actually know a couple of other people who’ve met him and have similarly good things to say.
My Father In Law is a season ticket holder at St James Park of some decades standing. I know that he and his mates still speak fondly of Hughton, and regard his sacking as an error and the start of the fanbase’s problems with Mike Ashley.
I also know there’s a lot of respect for him amongst the black lads I play football with on a Monday night. He’s still the most successful black British manager, I believe, and that counts for something.
Bit of an odd feeling for an Arsenal fan to be defending a former Spurs player, but there we go. From everything I’ve heard, he’s a decent man who is thought of warmly by quite a lot of people, and who deserves a bit of respect,
I remember Chris Hughton well (I even remember the correct spelling of his surname, as does Bingo), if only for his weak challenge on Trevor Steven, from Neville Southall’s high ball, allowing Tricky Trev to go on and score the winner against Spurs, and place Everton in pole position to win the Championship in 1985.
I also remember him in various managerial roles. I think his longest spell was at Brighton.
However it’s as an Evertonian I thank Macclesfield, because their achievement has dominated the headlines and squeezed lesser stories out.
It wouldn’t have been a headline, but Everton’s beyond abysmal penalty shootout performance would have garnered much more publicity were it not for The Macc Lads.
I got the surname right but evidently my phone autocorrected his first name to “Christopher”. Doubt even his Mum calls him that (unless he’s in trouble). 😁
Spelling of his surname, yikes. The geezer below got his first name wrong… ‘Pointless’ answer right there, twice. Fill yer boots!
Trophy meaning Second Division Championship? I’m guessing.
Step forward thirty other clubs, it wasn’t a domestic cup.
I just remember that as the nadir, and I believe it was.
That and Sutton United beating Leeds United a few years ago in the F.A. Cup… the media went crazy over it, the bookies had it at a miserly 5/2. It’s actually the one time I feel a bit sorry for the bookies having to work out such results given such random team selections. How can you call it?
To put that result in perspective, if Wolves still have to visit Man. City this season in the league, they’ll be 16/1 minimum. Probably 20/1. I’d prefer to be sitting on a winning betting slip that says 20/1 than one that says 5/2.
You’re free to remember him however you like, but to say that no one remembers him is simply incorrect. Your experience ≠ everyone’s experience.
He was a Manager of the Month, black or otherwise. Erm… OK… triffic. Might he not be better remembered if he’d won a trophy or at least competed for it? Newcastle will remember their current manager for far longer.
He’s also well remembered by a lot of West Ham fans for (a) being a genuinely nice bloke and (b) playing an important part in their promotion in 1991. He also played over 50 times for the Republic of Ireland.
But yeah, no one remembers him. Triffic.
He was a truly nice bloke – unfortunately he got the managerial sack at Norwich, producing a team playing the most boring football ever seen at Carrow Road.
@deramdaze His wikipedia page is worth a read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Hughton
I would definitley call that a memorable career with at least three clubs supporters remembering him fondly. Most other football fans will know who he is and most of those would likely think of him positively.
And I was at the Sutton United v Leeds United cup game. We had some decent players out that day and they were terrible.
The point about the spelling of his surname is simply evidence against your contention that he’s largely forgotten.
Oxford and Norwich progressed so I am happy
I’m probably the only AWer who has seen The Macc Lads (Viz magazine’s Sid The Sexist in musical form) in concert.
There was an inflatable sheep (purchased from the Anne Summers shop next door to the venue) passed over the heads of the crowd during ‘No Sheep ’til Buxton’. And a lot of beer, some of which was consumed, lots of which added to the stickiness of the venue carpet.
I’d post a Macc Lads tune, but I’d probably be permanently banned by The Mods. I used to play a girlfried ‘Julie the Schooly’ but she wasn’t amused.
Re: The Macc Lads
Come on now, fentonsteve, surely the Mods couldn’t object to “Twenty Pints of Boddingtons Every Friday Night?”
[checks lyrics]
Oh, hang on a minute … maybe they could …