(Mindful of the AW’s tolerance for 63 minute long tracks, I did think about putting up the shorter Jerusalem version, but then we would have had to forego that amazing artwork)
Yes.
From “Richard P. Havens, 1983” originally a double album on vinyl which, despite the title, was released in 1969. Eight of the sixteen tracks are his own songs or co-writes. Four are Lennon-McCartney covers. He wasn’t a very prolific writer. A personal favourite of old, I love the warmth of his voice.
YES. I was coming along to say “anything by Kyuss”. Really you need to put some headphones on, spark one up, and just listen to an album all the way through.
Really enjoyed this track and I wondered why I’d never heard of her. I was guessing she was an obscure San Francisco flower child who wasn’t known over here. Got that wrong. She was from Twickenham.
I win the thread with the best track from the best non-roots dub album of all time. If this doesn’t bliss you out nothing will. Ladies and gentleman prepare your bass bins for Jagnath Bhairavi by Suns Of Arqa!
is that off the Whirling Dub album? I think I recognise the cover. I was looking for my Suns Of Arqa CDs a while back, and they’ve all disappeared except Animan. I saw them twenty years ago in Plymouth and they were just incredibly good (saw them last year and they were terrible).
This magnificent Aussie band, King Lizard and his Wizard Gizzard, who completely blew me away at Roskilde this summer would seem to belong here.
Catch them live! Quite extraordinary. They just hit a groove and don’t let up for the whole gig.
Very difficult to put into words. Maybe the clip will help a little.
Just when I thought that maybe I had nailed it, I did not need any more music along comes this thread. I have a lot of the music posted here but there is more which I shall be investigating, which will lead to investigating more which will lead to….
It has to be the Seconds Out version for me. Collins in the 70s still had a far less strident, but arguably naturally more soulful, voice than Gabriel and that suits this song really well in this live setting. It’s the way the muted rhythm section, the voice, the harmonies, the melodic keyboard riff from Banks and Hackett’s sympathetic guitar all combine to create a hushed near-reverential “stoner groove”.
In the absence of @vulpes-vulpes, the live version with The London Welsh Choir from “Back Into The Future” seems to only be available on YouTube as two separate halves. Which is no good at all in my opinion.
I’m resorting to the studio version from “Be Good To Yourself Once A Day”.
I think Bowie’s managed a few stoner grooves in his time. The whole of Young Americans has a murky fug of reefer smoke about it that surrounds the soul and funk tropes he messes about with. I could have gone with Win or Fascination but went for the most obvious groove of Fame
1. Thanks for starting this thread Twang and apologies for being instrumental in hijacking it with multiple entries. It was for a good cause!
2. Thanks to everyone who contributed, some great new music to go and discover for a while
3. Thanks to Kaisfatdad for setting up the Spotify list. I’d started one myself but was too slow!!
Finally, I was fed up seeing the “busted flush” thread at the top of the ‘Most commented’ list so took it upon myself to try and get this thread to the top. There is no criticism implied of that thread or those who put comments in it. It was simply threatening to do a Bryan Adams and stay at No.1 for weeks and that’s not good for anyone’s sanity now is it?
The Afterword is a lot more than just music and it doesn’t always have to be a haven of consensus and love-ins but it’s nice to be reminded how music is great. I also liked the fact that with a title ‘Stoner grooves’, this thread could go anywhere. It felt a little bit like throwing the church doors open and welcoming everyone in because a groove, or indeed a stoner groove, goes way beyond any single genre, any artist or any music era. Sometimes it’s nice to get out of the rut and into the groove.
Thirded! This thread and your contributions especially Mr B, have set me off on a tangent of explorations – and a couple of my non-Afterword mates too.
I entirely support your admirable evolution of my modest little thread, and it is now a groovesome magnificent thing. Thank you all. Now everyone get the fuck over to my little home brewed effort and show the love!
I can’t upload from work but I was always partial to War’s The Cisco Kid after I bonged a few riploads…and ALL of Santana’s Abraxas after I bowled a few smokes. Anyone else a little hungry?
Crikey – 231 contributions to a drug-related music thread, and no mention of the Grateful Dead?
Afterworders – you know my mantra:
ON EVERY THREAD –
WE NEED THE DEAD!
So here’s the archive link to the 11 December 1969 show at the Thelma Lounge, Los Angeles. 80 minutes worth of this show finally got an official CD release last year, as the subscribers’ Bonus disc to Dave’s Picks Vol. 10.
There’s been a great resurgence in psych/stoner rock in recent years. Causa Sui are one of my favourites of the new breed who can weld a mean groove and riff
Blimey, bisto! Some range of music there.
As an aside, isn’t it odd, but slightly comforting, that Steve Hillage should still be out there, grooving away?
THE great lost album of the last ten years is West Coast by Studio. I know nothing about them except that they were from Sweden, and had a good line in dubbed up Balearica that also sounds a bit post-punk
Can’t listen right now but Can are magnificently groovesome, so I am sure there is some lope action somewhere. Not evryine can do it though. Requires a bit of can-I-be-arsed laid backness which many busybody musicians can’t manage.
Legendary duo Hansson & Karlsson (with an unnamed guitarist) giving it all for a Swedish TV show in 1967.
(It is possible that you could end up having a bad trip if you listen right til the end…when the two of them go absolutely bananas!) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewSyjy6O5ow
Going out on a limb here but I’ve always loved the groove of Simple Minds’ New Gold Dream album. Like Norman Whitfield albums and Massive Attack albums it works both as music in the head with the lights off as well as music for the heart and feet. Colours Fly and Catherine Wheel is probably the best example of the languid funk they had back then which, when coupled with the ambient doodlings of MacNeil’s keyboards and Burchill’s guitar effects, just makes for something really sublime and ‘stoned’.
In a similar vein but possibly going even further into a stoner groove is Japan’s Sons of Pioneers, again the vibe being led by a dominantly funky and tone-setting bassline (getting towards a dub feel), a brilliant looping drum (that today would probably be created without a real drummer and lose something in the process) and fleshed out with ambient doodlings that overall give the song a trance-like effect. Then there’s Sylvian’s quasi-religious lost soul croon that seems to come from another time and dimension all together.
Meteora in Greece, as featured in picture there, is fantastic. Went there for a day trip when staying in Parga. Wouldn’t want to be stoned when walking around there though. Bit of a long way down.
This performance is even better. Much hairy stoned-ness.
That version of “Fazon” is sublime.
Oh come on, that’s not stoner… THIS is stoner…
Dopesmoker, surely?
At the time, and being the first non-OP contributor to the thread, I thought it made me look a little unimaginative, but you’re absolutely right.
In the same vein: Electric Wizard.
Never knowingly imaginative, that’s my motto.
(Mindful of the AW’s tolerance for 63 minute long tracks, I did think about putting up the shorter Jerusalem version, but then we would have had to forego that amazing artwork)
Awesome.
I played his album earlier today. There must be a second due soon.
If you mean Jonathan Wilson’s second record, it was out in 2013, called Fanfare (or maybe you missed the debut, Gentle Spirit?)
Actually Fanfare was his second solo album. The first was called Frankie Ray. If you need a copy and are a fan of dropbox, ahem…
Now I’m confused. There was definitely an album before Fanfare that wasn’t Frankie Ray. So is Fanfare his third?
Kinski – Long Term Exit Strategy
Here’s another – coukd be many from the Feat but this came to mind
Have you listened to Hiss Golden Messenger Twang? Something of the Feat’s “groove” in some of his music
Saturday’s Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqPC9M8q3Es
Black Mountain – Set Us Free
Snuggle Otis – Sweet Thang
Oops iPad predictive.
Nah, Snuggle is as good as Shuggie this time of night.
Cymande – Dove
https://youtube.com/watch?v=0kzJ3aXSo48
This is so groovy that my trousers are now on fire
Lewis Taylor – Stoned Pt.1
Van Morrison – T.B Sheets
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xdaNz5APlh4
Chairman of The Board – Life and Death
I’ll stop now.
But I want it on record that I never inhaled.
In our book circle, Kaisfatdad and I certainly grooved along to “Stoner” by John Williams. Great book! A bit short on laughs, though.
Love a bit of Desert Rock.
I only found out recently that Josh Homme spent a bit of time with Screaming Trees before forming QOTSA. They could “stoner” quite well
I’m back!
Sly & The Family Stone – Thank You For Talkin’ To Me Africa
Wooden Shjips – These Xhadows
Black Sabbath – Junior’s Eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4GawnBxc8E
Awwww shucks !
Arzachel – Queen St, Gang (Soul Thing)
(like a psyched out instrumental version of The Kinks’ Lola!)
The Misunderstood – Never Had A Girl (Like You Before)
The Rain Parade – No Easy Way Down
Here’s one.
(Richie Havens – For Havens’ Sake)
Not heard that before. I only know him for his Lennon & McCartney covers. Kind of reminds me of a more soulful Neil Young. Is that his own song?
Yes.
From “Richard P. Havens, 1983” originally a double album on vinyl which, despite the title, was released in 1969. Eight of the sixteen tracks are his own songs or co-writes. Four are Lennon-McCartney covers. He wasn’t a very prolific writer. A personal favourite of old, I love the warmth of his voice.
Aphrodite’s Child – The four Horsemen
Along with Aegian Sea probably the most reserved track they ever did!
And ripped off wholesale by the Verve for their The Rolling People
YES. I was coming along to say “anything by Kyuss”. Really you need to put some headphones on, spark one up, and just listen to an album all the way through.
That was meant to be a response to @sour-crout. I blame the weed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIxp-_N_shQ&index=6&list=PLQ35zhHC6dTzws0zgK3AwwRMhrpmuIsBf
Black Sun Ensemble – Da Da is Gaga
Ooh, I like that, not heard it before. Reminds me of Tinariwen more than anything else
Tenhert
BoC – Dayvan Cowboy. Trippy visuals too.
Great shout for a stoner track. Definite great piece of head music. I have it on a compilation with this track coming after it
Dungen – Satt At Se
Something from the hippity hoppity stoner fraternity – Part 1
The Herbaliser – A Mother (For Your Mind)
Woah, careful man I’m holding a beverage here!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLDhA2fd3F8
Something from the hippity hoppity stoner fraternity – Part 2
Quantic – Trouble From The River
Something from the hippity hoppity stoner fraternity – Part 3
DJ Frane – Thought Seeds
Nowt so stoned as folk
Christine Harwood – Wooden Ships
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDLk1y-Veyg
Really enjoyed this track and I wondered why I’d never heard of her. I was guessing she was an obscure San Francisco flower child who wasn’t known over here. Got that wrong. She was from Twickenham.
What a story!
http://www.finderskeepersrecords.com/shop/christine-harwood-nice-to-meet-miss-christine/
This is so @duco01. He’s the Uncrowned King of the Lost Masterpiece. If he doesn’t own a copy, I’ll eat my hat.
Nowt so stoned as folk (slight blowback)
Fred Neil – The Dolphins
Steve Hillage takes The Beatles to new heights of trippyness
Did you know that Hillage was in Azarchel? I posted one of their tracks higher up.
The Alps – Labyrinths
The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band – Smell of Incense
Stoned Roses Pt 1
World of Twist – The Storm (12″)
Stoned Roses Pt 2
The Charlatans – Sproston Green
Stoned Roses – Pt 3
New Fast Automatic Daffodils – Fishes Eyes
With fishes eyes you have to look to Dr. John
I Walk On Guilded Splinters
I win the thread with the best track from the best non-roots dub album of all time. If this doesn’t bliss you out nothing will. Ladies and gentleman prepare your bass bins for Jagnath Bhairavi by Suns Of Arqa!
is that off the Whirling Dub album? I think I recognise the cover. I was looking for my Suns Of Arqa CDs a while back, and they’ve all disappeared except Animan. I saw them twenty years ago in Plymouth and they were just incredibly good (saw them last year and they were terrible).
Spacemen 3 – Rollercoaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gfyvKdE6oU
Also, of course:
Spiritualized-‘Effervescent’
…and also:
Spectrum – Then I Just Drifted Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh7hNSHmNH8
Loop – Be Here Now
Ride – Not Fazed
The Stooges – Dirt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxYXV2RrwIs
Bookmark!
You really need to be in slow motion for this one, or out of your tree
This magnificent Aussie band, King Lizard and his Wizard Gizzard, who completely blew me away at Roskilde this summer would seem to belong here.
Catch them live! Quite extraordinary. They just hit a groove and don’t let up for the whole gig.
Very difficult to put into words. Maybe the clip will help a little.
Slightly more up-tempo than some others here but slow enough for your head to keep up with if you’ve been hitting the crazy parsley…
‘Cantamilla’ Tranquility Bass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0B9myYLySc
I think the Dandy Warhols encapsulate the languid just outatime sway of headfuck better than most….
Paul Weller – Kosmos (Lynchmob)
What do you get when you cross Cypress Hill with Tom Waits and add some Jimi Hendrix?
You get New Kingdom, the stoniest groovers in Stonerville.
Good call! Here’s my fave of theirs, they’re always in a Maverick never ever in a Chevy you know…
“FIVE SPACED OUT M*THAF*CKAS TRYIN’ TO FIGURE, COME ON!”
Just when I thought that maybe I had nailed it, I did not need any more music along comes this thread. I have a lot of the music posted here but there is more which I shall be investigating, which will lead to investigating more which will lead to….
Wot? A Stoner Grooves thread without Gong?
Shocking omission.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9knIlUc5Cs
(The Isle Of Everywhere)
ICBWHGTFWAM Ozric Tentacles
Bill Laswell and Jah Wobble – Alsema Dub
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWIz2hcAPc4
Beastie Boys – Shake Your Rump
Stone Roses – Something’s Burning:
The Verve – Brainstorm Interlude:
Nice. I’d also add Gravity Grave, the full version
Serge Gainsbourg – Melody
David Holmes – Caddell Returns
Fila Brazilia – Extract of Pineal Gland
Talk Talk – John Cope
Amazing variety of different stuff here.
I’m throwing in the remarkable Dead Skeletons from Iceland.
Another WTF have I just heard band,
An hypnotic groove that hits the sweet spot and does not let go?
Konono No 1!
The Pharcyde – Pack the Pipe
Wait a second. No Electric Wizard?! No The Heads?!
Ecstatic Vision
Teeth Of The Sea
wot no 13th Floor Elevators?
It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue.
Fu Manchu
Wha? No JJ?
J.J. Cale – Durango
Wha? No John Martyn
Big Muff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwkV6Fmw7Xg
Bonobo – D Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgglnZfiwo0
Nightmares on Wax – Pipes Honour
The Attack – Earth Tremor
Humble Pie – Live With Me
Focus – Answers?Questions!Questions?Answers!
Pink Floyd – Obscured by Clouds
HJHM – Come Together
Let’s come together, right now, in sweet harmony.
https://youtu.be/1DR-eYIl9BU
Have some Serpent Power, this is “Lucifer’s Dreambox:
And Les Big Byrd – I Woke Up In aA Dream:
Mbongwana Star, first a track with Konono No 1 – Malukayi (trippy in a steampunk sort of way):
And now a s-l-o-w jam – Coco Blues:
Back to the OP – that first track Twang is Fleetwood Mac’s Angel – a Bob Welch number. Great version.
You probably knew that.
Truthfully I didn’t. Excellent song. What a brilliant thread. **takes no credit**
It’s no mean feat to ask exactly the right question that will get an enthusiastic, unfettered, varied and rather explorative response,
I loved the fact that we have all interpreted the OP in our own way.
Result!
Go on! Have an Up, Twang.
Of course there are two entirely different Fleetwood Mac songs called “Angel” – one by Bob Welch (1974), as you say, and one by Stevie Nicks (1979).
talking of Bob Welch, here’s another great head nodding number by him from his Mac days
Hypnotised
Procul Harum – Song For a Dreamer
The Monkees – Daily Nightly
Kid Loco – Alone Again So
Zoological joke ahoy!
What does Julian call his mp3 player?
A copepod.
It has to be here.
Genesis – Carpet Crawlers
It has to be the Seconds Out version for me. Collins in the 70s still had a far less strident, but arguably naturally more soulful, voice than Gabriel and that suits this song really well in this live setting. It’s the way the muted rhythm section, the voice, the harmonies, the melodic keyboard riff from Banks and Hackett’s sympathetic guitar all combine to create a hushed near-reverential “stoner groove”.
Dusted – Childhood
Surely this counts, recorded back in 1961:
Ooh nice. Definitely plenty of stoner grooves in jazz. Here’s couple more:
Miles Davis – In A Silent Way/It’s About That Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjkpl33Ptss
Herbie Hancock – Hidden Shadows
I won’t post it but the middle section of “Echoes”…well, basically most of it, but the funky bit, is well stoner.
The bass line in your OP is very Pink Floyd – don’t you think. Is it Shine on… I can hear?
Just a slight forward momentum is all you need.
https://youtu.be/o99I06Pn4Ss
Inspoired by the thread I thought I’d have a go. It’s a short trip though…8 seconds!
https://soundcloud.com/twangothan/stoner
Soz that’s 48!
A one man stoner groove machine: John Martyn
That’s two nominations for Mr Martyn!
More JM to get lost in
One of the original stoner bands? The Quicksilver Messenger Service.
Wonderful bit of Monterey concert footage, as interested in the audience as the band.
The footage here is blurrier but you get a good idea of what the band were about.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnbwZxjcbI
Calling @vulpes-vulpes …we need a Manband track asap. I bow to your greater knowledge. Which is the one with the Welsh male voice choir?
In the absence of @vulpes-vulpes, the live version with The London Welsh Choir from “Back Into The Future” seems to only be available on YouTube as two separate halves. Which is no good at all in my opinion.
I’m resorting to the studio version from “Be Good To Yourself Once A Day”.
Another try.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olnbwZxjcbI
Unless my eyes deceive me I cant see any Traffic. Surely the stoner/getting it together in the country act. This one is a must.
Speaking of Steve Winwood,
Got to have some of the ‘wind, surely. Possibly a bit Ladbrooke Grove biker speed tempo for the modern stoner….
Bluesy Groovesy
Green on Red – Zombie For Love
Garage Stoner
Fannies – Everything Flows
Swervedriver – Ejector Seat Reservation
I think Bowie’s managed a few stoner grooves in his time. The whole of Young Americans has a murky fug of reefer smoke about it that surrounds the soul and funk tropes he messes about with. I could have gone with Win or Fascination but went for the most obvious groove of Fame
Talking Heads – Swamp
Funkadelic
Pretty much anything but I’ve gone for Music For My Growth
The Meters
Went for Rigor Mortis for its near-dub levels of bass which bring it down a level or two from funk to stoner groove
Issac Hayes – Hyperbolicsyllabicsesquedalymistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N8k3uJu6K8
Portishead – Pedestal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7Heejpc5GI
Massive Attack – Euro Zero Zero
Tricky – Aftermath
Morcheeba – Who Can You Trust?
Fluke – Wobbler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNR7EOASFas
Underworld – River of Bass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZR9ipkbsOQ
Shriekback – “Hand On My Heart”
Somewhat late to the game here but how about the “Wurm” section from Starship Trooper:
More from Yes – the live version of Schindleria Praematurus from Yessongs:
One more from me – slip on the cans and mellow out to this one…
Shuggie Otis – Freedom Flight:
Tim Maia – O Caminho Do Bem
Nice one Bisto. The Brazilian Walrus of Love.
I’m enjoying the loping stoner groove of this thread.
Jorge Ben – Xica de Silva
Can’t believe we’ve got this far without this lot.
Pharoah Sanders – Astral Travelling
Weather Report – Will
Cinematic Orchestra – Night of The Iguana
Lalo Schiffrin – Shifting Gears
St Germain = La goutte d’or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0CWLPSdt9g
Kruder & Dorfmeister – Sleazy Rider
Tosca – Orozco
Twinkle Brothers – Faith Can Move Mountain
Seals and Crofts – Leave
America – Donkey Jaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoC2IX95pA4
David Crosby – Cowboy Movie
Jimmy Spheeris – Eternity Spin
You like your stoner grooves don’t you @bingo-little ?.
Terry Reid – River
Wilco – Spiders (Kidsmoke)
Kraftwerk – Trans Europe Express
Good call, but I think Neon Lights develops a better stoner groove.
Depeche Mode – Policy of Truth
Still a work in progress, but there’s already six hours of very varied music here.
This thread has been a lot of fun to browse through. From Richie Havens and Serge Gainsborough to Gong and New Kingdom. And beyond.
Good work KFD. Great compilation!
Yes, thanks very much- following.
Thanks Twang, Ruby and Tim.
But it’ll be a little while before I catch up. This thread is as frisky as a poodle on heat. New songs every minute.
And the variety is so broad. Making lots of new discoveries.
Nice, ta
OK, maybe I’m the only one that doesn’t know but how do you follow this playlist? I searched for Afterword and Stoner…zilch
Stoner = Dead Meadow
What? no Fu Manchu? C’mon….
ahem
Kyuss are presen & correct but how about
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dppDPXgGhnE
That is QOTSA Mexicola
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dppDPXgGhnE
Clutch have their stoner moments
As do Monster Magnet
White Denim – Burnished
Unknown Mortal Orchestra – Swim and Sleep (Like a Shark)
Kurt Vile – Wakin On A Pretty Day
King Tuff – Black Moon Spell
Bass Drum of Death – Sin Is In 10
Black Rebel Motorcycle Club – White Palms
Sonic Youth – Theresa’s Sound World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ek_cM2nOrxQ
King Crimson – Matte Kudasai
https://youtu.be/ngtwrqfklzU
Discipline, too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFPpXjVwhJk
JAMC – Sugar Ray
Cocteau Twins – Pale Clouded White
Dif Juz – No Mation
Ultra Vivid Scene – Mercy Seat (12″)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94TY4gOli8w
You want loping? This is loping
Or if the emphasis is on “stoner” how can there be no dub?
Propaganda – Dream With A Dream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4pYDa730fA
Art of Noise – Moments In Love
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnSPrPpvA4k
Grace Jones – Walking In The Rain (12″)
The Cure – At Night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE1rEVXEJB4
Killing Joke – Requiem (A Floating Leaf Always Reaches The Sea Dub Mix)
Bauhaus – Bela Lugosi’s Dead
Echo & The Bunnymen – Over The Wall
Gene Clark – No Other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GilrLIwBJE8
Dennis Wilson – Dreamer
10CC – I’m Mandy Fly Me
Wings – Letting Go (extended version)
Steve Miller Band – Fly Like An Eagle
https://youtu.be/O63COyZlTyU
Open spotify and then try copying and then pasting this in your browser @sid-Williams.
spotify:user:kaisfatdad:playlist:5s0kAfdLDeDNtZUvI0EDSF
Get back to me if that doesn’t work.
My son loves this very catchy song.
He’s 12. Ooops!
(No need to panic. He’s very anti cigs, booze and any kind of stimulants. A perplexing child.)
Some observations
1. Thanks for starting this thread Twang and apologies for being instrumental in hijacking it with multiple entries. It was for a good cause!
2. Thanks to everyone who contributed, some great new music to go and discover for a while
3. Thanks to Kaisfatdad for setting up the Spotify list. I’d started one myself but was too slow!!
Finally, I was fed up seeing the “busted flush” thread at the top of the ‘Most commented’ list so took it upon myself to try and get this thread to the top. There is no criticism implied of that thread or those who put comments in it. It was simply threatening to do a Bryan Adams and stay at No.1 for weeks and that’s not good for anyone’s sanity now is it?
The Afterword is a lot more than just music and it doesn’t always have to be a haven of consensus and love-ins but it’s nice to be reminded how music is great. I also liked the fact that with a title ‘Stoner grooves’, this thread could go anywhere. It felt a little bit like throwing the church doors open and welcoming everyone in because a groove, or indeed a stoner groove, goes way beyond any single genre, any artist or any music era. Sometimes it’s nice to get out of the rut and into the groove.
Nice, seconded.
Playing the playlist now – blimey , Kinski? How have I missed them?
Thirded! This thread and your contributions especially Mr B, have set me off on a tangent of explorations – and a couple of my non-Afterword mates too.
Forthed.(?) Well said Bisto!
This thread continues to be a joy and has reminded us that our groove is as groovy as ever.
Not ever lost it. Just a few moments of self doubt.
Must dash! Back to the party!
I entirely support your admirable evolution of my modest little thread, and it is now a groovesome magnificent thing. Thank you all. Now everyone get the fuck over to my little home brewed effort and show the love!
I can’t upload from work but I was always partial to War’s The Cisco Kid after I bonged a few riploads…and ALL of Santana’s Abraxas after I bowled a few smokes. Anyone else a little hungry?
War – The Cisco Kid
Santana – Hope You’re Feeling Better
Nicessshhh! Thanks, ‘Bisto.
Jade Warrior – Way of The Sun
Comets On Fire
Thee Hypnotics – Justice In Freedom (12″)
Ripe – The Plastic Hassle
Polyphemus – Milestone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yo_0mpBOQA
Crikey – 231 contributions to a drug-related music thread, and no mention of the Grateful Dead?
Afterworders – you know my mantra:
ON EVERY THREAD –
WE NEED THE DEAD!
So here’s the archive link to the 11 December 1969 show at the Thelma Lounge, Los Angeles. 80 minutes worth of this show finally got an official CD release last year, as the subscribers’ Bonus disc to Dave’s Picks Vol. 10.
https://archive.org/details/gd69-12-11.sbd.gerland.10987.sbeok.shnf
It contains the classic triumvirate of Dark Star – St. Stephen – The Eleven, which is my recommendation for this thread.
The Heads – Mao Tinitus
Weird Owl – Fine Vibrations
There’s been a great resurgence in psych/stoner rock in recent years. Causa Sui are one of my favourites of the new breed who can weld a mean groove and riff
Causa Sui – Homage
SubArachnoid Space – A
Nebula – All The Way
Yes, forgot about Nebul
Ween – The Argus
The Doors – The Piano Bird
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xS4-2OYiMuM
Manu Chao is definitely not averse to a little herbal refreshment.
Moon Duo can get in that groove
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuPp5aXI8ys
Beck – Beercan
Masters of Reality
Some Spiritual Beggars
Ernest Ranglin’s magnificently fluid guitar lines fit perfectly on the thread.
Jazz reggae? Reggae jazz? Just sit back, enjoy and pass the dutchie from the left hand side.
Morphine – Cure For Pain
Jimi Tenor – Hypnotic Drugstore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs3xxpoeDUI
Cut Chemist – Spoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IU0U91bbGE
Yes, was thinking about some DJ Shadow – instead how about UNKLE (with Chris Goss)
Jazzers in stoner groove mode
From the same album….jump to about 3 minutes in to miss the synth driven spacy first bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aw2rM0w-pc
Fugi – Mary, Don’t Take Me On No Bad Trip
Stark Reality – Junkman’s Song
The Malcouns – Jabore Pt3
The Lafayette Afro-Rock Band – Darkest Light
We’ve had Serge and we have had reggae – now Serge Reggae
Nina Simone – Funkier Than a Mosquito’s Tweeter
Isaac Hayes – Do Your Thing (long)
Edgar Broughton Band-There’s No Vibrations But Wait!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwTpHM355zI
From 1933. The oldest track on this thread?
Cab Calloway – Reefer man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPkPyVYp6ik
Check my brain please
Blimey, bisto! Some range of music there.
As an aside, isn’t it odd, but slightly comforting, that Steve Hillage should still be out there, grooving away?
Bummer! Commander Cody tells it like it is.
Down to seeds and stems again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGsq1K7f_yc
Cheeba is of course slang for jazz tobacco. So let’s have Morcheeba.
Galliano, a band that seem permanently obscured in a fog of sensi smoke. A heady cocktail of jazz, poetry, hip hop and beats. Love them!
The boys in blue see red with the Cool Ruler.
Another old favourite with a lovely groove.
And while we’re over in Jamaica let’s visit Rita Marley. She’s got a part time job as a teacher and her pupils are Smokie, Herbie and Milla.
THE great lost album of the last ten years is West Coast by Studio. I know nothing about them except that they were from Sweden, and had a good line in dubbed up Balearica that also sounds a bit post-punk
I love the thread but I’m still unsure what a stoner groove is. Is this one?
Can – Mother Sky
NO, it isn’t. Pay attention Tigger, it is supposed to LOPE. Listen to the first song in the OP.
As you were.
Hmm. How about this one? I think the groove is right but the vocal performance is a bit too bitter.
PiL – Albatross
I’m sure Can lope from time to time.
Can – Halleluhwah
Can’t listen right now but Can are magnificently groovesome, so I am sure there is some lope action somewhere. Not evryine can do it though. Requires a bit of can-I-be-arsed laid backness which many busybody musicians can’t manage.
I think you’re right Tigger. I don’t doubt that there are some loping Krautockers.
And also some more loping jazzers. We’ve really only dipped our toe into jazz here so far.
I just learnt something fascinating ! Muggles was the slang word in jazz circles in the 20s and 30s for joints.
JK Rowling has some explaining to do!
A few contributions from Spain
Raimundo Amador’s Bollere refers to a kind of Rizla-like paper for rollups.
Ska P
Brujeria
I found those gems on this fine list.
http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/02/03/planeta_futuro/1391441908_291430.html
Along with this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDlsRONAZV0
Julian Cope – Not Raving But Drowning
Electric Moon – Hypnotika
Legendary duo Hansson & Karlsson (with an unnamed guitarist) giving it all for a Swedish TV show in 1967.
(It is possible that you could end up having a bad trip if you listen right til the end…when the two of them go absolutely bananas!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewSyjy6O5ow
60s psychedelia from the United States of America’s only album.
The garden of earthly delights
Cloud Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKsdz7c48f0
LTJ Bukem – Music
Ballistic Brothers – A Love Supreme Pts 1 & 2
Margin Gaye – T Plays It Cool
James Brown – Stone To The Bone
I think lovely tune lopes along very nicely…
Going out on a limb here but I’ve always loved the groove of Simple Minds’ New Gold Dream album. Like Norman Whitfield albums and Massive Attack albums it works both as music in the head with the lights off as well as music for the heart and feet. Colours Fly and Catherine Wheel is probably the best example of the languid funk they had back then which, when coupled with the ambient doodlings of MacNeil’s keyboards and Burchill’s guitar effects, just makes for something really sublime and ‘stoned’.
In a similar vein but possibly going even further into a stoner groove is Japan’s Sons of Pioneers, again the vibe being led by a dominantly funky and tone-setting bassline (getting towards a dub feel), a brilliant looping drum (that today would probably be created without a real drummer and lose something in the process) and fleshed out with ambient doodlings that overall give the song a trance-like effect. Then there’s Sylvian’s quasi-religious lost soul croon that seems to come from another time and dimension all together.
Back to rolling the rock ‘n’ reefer!
Warhorse – Woman of The Devil
A genuine loping stoner groove on this one for Twang!
Patto – Hold Your Fire
Awesome. Patto were fab.
Yep. Three cheers for Ollie Halsall!
Pentagram – 20 Buck Spin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3nvHFIcc4g
…and as a toke(n) of appreciation for the input of our Scandinavian AW’ers here’s Sweden’s Hills!
Hills – Master Sleeps
White Bone Rattle – Horse
Sao Paolo Stoners Wood & Stock had a film made about them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxgq7Rm1fWw
Here’s Rita Lee with a film from the soundtrack.
Spacin’ – Oh Man
Vie La France!
Les Liminanas – Votre coté yéyé m’emmerde
Pas mauvais M. Bisto. Enjoyed that and must investigate further.
Yeah, nice choice – I have that album but hadn’t noticed that track
When those 1940s jazz tobacco cats (or vipers as they were known) talked about t, the weren’t asking for a cuppa, daddy-oh!
Fats gets muggled up.
And proves that the 60s didn’t invent the munchies.
Thread of the year so far, folks IMO. Loving it all. Much thanks to KFD for the Spotify list. So much music. So little time.
Reefer Madness was a 1936 movie about “the demon weed with its roots in hell”.
What I didn’t know was that it had been rebooted as a musical.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X82zLM0oUY
The Electric Prunes – I
The Bees – This Is For The Better Days
I love The Bees. Here is another biftastic groove:
Sky Holds the Sun.
Grand Drive – Palace Texas
Giant Sand – Monk’s Mountain
Meteora in Greece, as featured in picture there, is fantastic. Went there for a day trip when staying in Parga. Wouldn’t want to be stoned when walking around there though. Bit of a long way down.
Belle and Sebastian – The Rollercoaster Ride.
The Beta Band – Dog Got a Bone
Calexico – Detroit Stream
T Bone Burnett – Every Time I Feel The Shift
The Black Rainbows