I almost feel sorry for Kwasi – his trip to the US (with presumably a begging bowl) cut short and back to London, a la Denis Healey returning from going to see the IMF in 1976. (If only, for all our sakes, this govt. was on such good terms with the IMF). Meantime, there’s a big picture of him on the front page of the Telegraph – The Telegraph – and the headline says “I’m not going anywhere”. Translation: don’t renew your Sky Plus subs for number 11, pal.
The Tories seem to be having a break from what they do best – convincing the electorate that they can run the economy – and are falling back on what they do second best: putting each others’ heads on spikes.
Still, at least the food banks are busy eh?
PS do people always say Miss (or Mizz) Truss because Mrs Truss sound like the name of someone in the “entertainment industry” who operates a dungeon?
Apols if you’re just having your breakfast
It’s Mistrust, isn’t it?
I’m sure I’ve visited a Madame Truss down Hessle Rerd…
Next to the fish finger factory?
….er, apparently
I had an email from the foodbank this week. Donations have dropped as demand has increased. The gap is alarming. We’ve been asked to be extra careful giving out vouchers. Lots of people are unable to afford enough food.
One Red Wall voter’s reason for switching his vote in 2019.
“We only had three food banks under Labour, now we’ve got twelve!”
From memory, he was a monkey-hanger…
…so juuuust far away from my spawning ground for me to disclaim any possible genetic link.
Mrs M claims to be able to tell if someone comes from Hartlepool from the shape of his head.
I seem to have inadvertently married a phrenologist.
(Other potential Nigel Blackwell lyrics are available)
She’s not wrong; the thick brow-ridge common to all Hartlepudlians is certainly distinctive.
There’s an announcement coming from No 10 later. Probably KK to be sacked but that doesn’t feel like this will end the turmoil at all.
Alternatively, Truss could force another leadership contest along the lines of John Major’s “Put up or shut up” move. Although she would say “Put them up. Or. Shut them. Up.”
Long term, the best thing for the Conservative Party and the country is a General Election. They know they are going to get a hammering – just get it over with and regroup. The opportunity to govern again might present itself within a few years, you never know.
Kwarteng is out for doing exactly what his boss asked him to do and then stoutly defended. I bet Truss will be delighted when her honeymoon period is over because it’s hardly going great guns while it is.
They’re toast. This has been coming for a long time, but was speeded up when non-Brexiters were expelled from the party leaving them devoid of front-bench talent. What has happened in the last couple of weeks isn’t a blip, it’s a culmination.
“Truss will be delighted” no matter what happens. She’s oblivious to anything that isn’t happening outside our own head.
I’m hoping that’s a typo. The idea that we all share one headspace with Truss at the controls is the stuff of nightmares.
The very definition of The Numskulls.
My taping has been atrocious those days
Home Taping Is Killing Moosey.
(I’ve probably said something very similar to this before. And I’ll probably say it again, before long.)
C30 C60 C90 ouch!
Oh good cueing-up sir, I’ll always take any opportunity to post this:
So here’s a question: Why weren’t Bow Wow Wow absolutely massive? This was Perfect Pop in my book, packed full of everything you want in 3 minutes.
Was it simply industry antipathy towards Malcy?
I saw them live and they were great. Annabella was a superb singer and had a strong stage presence.
I think the problem was they were too well put together. The tail wagged the dog too obviously. There was an air of manipulation about them that was discomforting , not to mention the, ahem, child sexual exploitation.
Really good to hear that Annabella was a good live singer; she was certainly fantastic on record.
I agree about the ‘being manufactured’ thing, though that’s been a thing since forever; perhaps it was just too overtly cynically done in the case of BWW. And tbh I’d completely forgotten about the CSE issue that you and Moose mention; I can’t recall any of the details or imagery, but it’s slightly uplifting to think that sufficient people might have said “Uh-huh, nah that’s not acceptable”.
Real shame that that caused Annabella’s light to be dimmed (to whatever degree) as she seemed to be a talent with a lot of potential to do interesting stuff. She fell off my radar completely, so I hope she managed to develop a decent career that she was happy with. I could wiki her, of course.
She was 14 when she posed nude for the cover of See Jungle! etc in a *tribute* to Manet’s Le Déjeuner sur l’herbe. The men were fully clothed. Her mum instigated a police investigation which went nowhere. McLaren, ever the provocateur, used the same image for an EP, Last Of The Mohicans, and a single, Go Wild In The Country. She then appeared nude again in a new photo a year later for I Want Candy. It all felt a bit grubby.
The band, the original Ants for Adam, had a thunderous, percussive sound. They had ups and downs, splits and reunions, and she went solo for a while, plus other projects. She’s still only in her mid fifties now. And she seemed unfazed by all the fuss at the time.
Thanks Tiggs.
Eeesh, I’ll be careful in my searching in view of that, then, but it’ll be interesting to catch up with what she’s been doing / is doing now.
The photos are tastefully done. They are not in the same league as Blind Faith. She is clearly naked but you don’t *see* anything you really shouldn’t.
Antipathy towards Malcy? Honey, is you trippin’? Most people wouldn’t have known who he was, let alone that he was connected to the
Giant Sized Baby Thing
Hitmakers and their pedo-tastic album covers.
I listened to Dirk this week – it’s a top album, but that line-up of th’Ants wouldn’t have gone any further.
PS. “felt a bit grubby”….? Blimey….
Surely they can never, ever again hold themselves up as being the party who are fiscally responsible? I would genuinely love to think that this will be the final nail in the coffin for this absolute shambles of a government.
General election now please…and then I wish Labour would very quickly introduce Proportional Representation so these dangerous and lunatic extreme right wingers will be much less likely to get near power again.
No, we’ve got to stay with FPTP because, as Keir says, everyone in Scotland is about to start voting Labour again – nailing on huge majorities for the party until the end of time what with it being 1997 and everything.
And anyway millions of people up and down the country who live in safe seats absolutely adore having a vote that means absolutely fuck-all.
I’m being SARCASTIC.
I’m just clinging to the hope that he’ll change his mind once he’s in office.
If he ends up being propped up by the LDs it might not be up to him.
I’m as certain as I can be (without being encumbered by any actual facts or knowledge) that Keir is pro-PR (because how can any intelligent/responsible person not be?) but that he and the rest of the leadership have decided that it’s not tactically prudent to nail their colours to that mast at this time. I can see Labour getting a landslide at the next GE via FPTP, given current polling, and then possibly testing public appetite for PR sometime late in that first term.
Edit: I’m aware that Conference voted strongly in favour of wanting a commitment to PR included in the next Manifesto; can’t remember the specific wording of that resolution but I still can’t see that it’ll be something which Labour go strong on in the run-up to the next GE.
PR would be radical but sensible. However it seems this Country insists on having a local MP they see/heckle/acclaim.
Local accountability is a genuine concern for some people. Not sure how this could be squared with the benefits of PR.
Perhaps with some sort of hybrid system, combining directly-elected constituency MPs (but less of them) and a number of party-selected representatives according to regional and national share of the vote.
I’d also like to see a restriction on political appointments to the upper house, if we continue to have one. Only former PMs, Chancellors, Foreign Secretaries and Home Secretaries and their opposition shadows would be eligible. Political donors excluded.
Lower house proportional, upper house constituency-based – job done.
Gerry Rafferty, as usual, sumarises the news agenda.
@fentonsteve
You can indeed have your money back, F.
Sadly, it isn’t nearly worth what it was two weeks ago and will fall even further in value
as you queue to get it back
So if KamiKwaze has gone (as a result of the backlash to the mini Budget, despite what Jacob Rees-Mogg denies) where does that leave Mrs Surgicaldevice? Immediate tax cuts and grwth was her ticket to the top job. A reversal would surely mean she’s there under false pretenses.
And to start the rumour mill now: Sunak to return to the Treasury?
Rumour mill says Jeremy Rhyming-Slang for Chancellor…
Hunt – the thimble of the Conservative government, as Truss needles the economy further.
He’s more than that. Isn’t he in charge of everything? I’m sure he said “OK, Liz but I have some conditions.” She’s a PM without authority.
I must admit, I liked the wordplay, and tried to make it into some sort of political analogy. It doesn’t make sense as a Dudley Moore/stature reference. But as a description of Hunt as a shield for the Tories (and the public) from the needling damage of toxic Truss, maybe?
I agree, he’s the leader they should have chosen instead of Johnson in 2019, and pretty much the only unblemished politician of any stature on the government benches.
He did remove the bursaries for nurses, putting many off the career because they couldn’t afford the university fees.
And, yes, the wordplay was very clever. 👍
Did he remove the bursaries for nurseries too?
And, if so, from whom will we get a pessary?
The pessary for the nursery is in the vessel with the pestle.
Fo shizzle?
The peccary for the apothecary is in the pizzle fo shizzle!
Good moaning!
Why would Sunak want to be associated with the Truss Cabinet? The longer he keeps a low profile the better he looks in the eyes of the party members who’ll be choosing the next party leader – unless the MPs pull a fast one.
Confirmed…a return for Jeremy “complete and utter” Hunt.
No Christmas for the NHS then (or John Quays, come to that)
No one is going to Fall for that!
The meek will have a hard time too, but you know what they say about that lot…
Is it “… they’re doomed to permanent Opposition, like the Lib Dems”?
Yeah I know, I know, “… until we get PR”.
I don’t remember that lyric. Is it from the Spencer Birtwhistle period?
Arf!
*sigh* I suppose I’m going to have to search that now as well.
Moose, do you actually know everything about every musician, piece of music, comedian, politician EVAAAHH? Cos it seems like you do; I’m constantly amazed by your breadth and depth of knowledge. Tell me, can you hand-draw the entire cityscape of New York after a single helicopter flight?
I increasingly worry that my Licence to Afterword will be withdrawn, cos I don’t know shee-it about anything compared to you. I think I’m developing Imposter Syndrome.
Yep, that’s me. Sing it, Gladys…
Got a license to Afterword
And you know I’m going straight for your heart
Got a licence to Afterword
Anyone who tries to tear us apart
You keep your hands off my heart, Gladys, it’s very important to me.
You can have one of my kidneys though, they’re knackered.
Gladys can do whatever she likes with my heart.
Jeff, Moose is not the “high-flyer” you believe him to be…he’s a “low-flyer” held aloft by the occasional gust of wind…
*opens window, flaps tea-towel*
Thanks Fitz, I’d been blaming the dog.
Imposter Syndrome
Marvellous in Twin Peaks.
Only for one of them though.
Single Peak
My meds can’t be working – I watched her press conference and actually felt sorry for her!
A tiny wee rabbit caught in the headlights who only escaped certain death by announcing “I’ve answered four questions, that’s more than enough, laters.”
I’m surprised she didn’t say “At least we’re not in France, thems got no petrol/diesel you know.”
At least they’ve got their own cheese.
But we’ve lost our Cracker.
Well, this government is certainly enough to drive you to Nurse Macready’s Surgical Brews.
@jeff This was an under-appreciated post, I feel.
@mikethep, thank-you; one does try in one’s own modest way, but I always say that it takes an editor of quite towering genius to spot the glint of gold within the muddy swirl.
I have therefore decided that it shall be you, not BC, who shall be the beneficiary of my equity, after that dreadful ‘contractual’ business downthread.
Yours, as ever, with crossed fingers,
Jeff
Do you deliver internationally?
I deliver…”everywhere”.
Well, not so much these days, perhaps, but there was a time when, believe you me…
I’ve just seen it. She looked for all the world like she was being forced to make a hostage video.
No, we’re the hostages.
This is possibly the single instance of us “all being in it together”.
The shit, that is.
We’re all in it together with the multi-millionaire Jeremy Hunt. Essentially back where we started in 2010. Circularity, as in all comedy.
Innit though. Hard choices and austerity. The ****
I’m with Miriam. Fuck you, bastard.
What is it with him and the Today Programme? Probably even the Chief Rabbi has called him a putz.
Compassionate Tories!
Can’t remember a UK government this bad in my
lifetime.
There isn’t one thing in the UK that isn’t worse than
It was when they assumed office.
You can say THAT again!
@fitterstooke
Sorry, f, I don’t do requests.
On second thoughts…
Can’t remember a UK government this bad in my
lifetime.
There isn’t one thing in the UK that isn’t significantly.
worse than It was when they assumed office.
Yeah- for example I’ve got fat and now have to wear glasses
The bastards!
The present’s so shite, you’ve got to wear gogs.
You’ve seen Christmas at my house then
“An orange??? For meee??”
When I heard Kwarteng had to attend an IMF meeting I almost felt the tiniest hint of pity for him. Like a new kid turning up at a secondary school where all the other pupils already knew him as that kid who publicly shat his pants. Then I remembered what an amoral, insider trading piece of self-serving scum he is.
Conrad
No, not Josef of that name, Conrad was the boy who publically shat his pants at primary school, hiding his soiled pants in the undergrowth, where they were found and triumphantly displayed, on the end of a stick. I remember it like yesterday, as when Margaret did diarrhoea on the floor in kindergarten, and everyone went over and sniffed it, after the teacher took her away for whatever happens under such circumstances.
A gold star for artistic expression?
If he and Truss are found to have engineered this to enrich their donors they should be in prison. The blatantly corrupt COVID contract handout was a deft sleight-of-hand compared to this.
Don’t think there are any dastardly conspiracies here. Just utter clueless incompetence.
Whether things go badly or well, their donors make money.
Definitely dastardly conspiracies, without any doubt; just have the lightest of skimreads around the Kwarteng/Truss/IEA/Tufton St/GoldmanSachs/DisasterCapitalism/Rees-Mogg nexus.
The only remotely comforting thing I take from the rapid rise and fall of the IEA’s Kwarteng, Truss, & etc is that it’s like Putin’s hapless incursions into Ukraine; the front-line troops are under-equipped, under-trained, and simply not up to the job. They have the penetrative power and resilience of a meringue, and so the regime appears to be burning through its resources like a sailor on shore-leave.
Keir Starmer’s started doing videos in a dark green t-shirt….
Slava U Keiri!
…sorry, I don’t watch Game of Thrones.
Shaun Bhaun gets killed, apparently.
Shit, sorry, spoiler.
Thats all right – pretty much all of them are except the one you most wish was.
Apparently so.
I’ve never seen a single episode of GoT but even I know that the final one was a colossal disappointment.
(If I’ve misunderstood you correctly…)
I agree @mike_h
Denis Healey would sometimes get on my* bus on a Thursday evening, back up from London for constituency work/downtime over the weekend. Very affable and approachable but clearly shagged out by that point in the week/his career so people just gave him his space and privacy. This was well post-Labour Govt so he’d have been Shadow Front Bench if anything, possibly even backbencher by then, but nevertheless it was still really good to see him being Real Life and accessible.
*I say ‘my bus’, I mean ‘The People’s Bus!!!’ This was Leeds, mid-80s, so a time when the North was still unequivocally and exhilaratingly anti-Blue…apart from Keith Joseph’s redoubt, in which I unfortunately lived. (Should have wiki’d timelines and constituency boundaries before posting).
In the 90s I watched an elderly Michael Foot sitting on a bench in the middle of Highgate, having a rest while walking his dog. He was alone and seemed to be reliving a debate – index finger aloft for emphasis from time to time. Traffic and passers by all around him.
I reckon that Michael Foot/Cenataph story from 1981 (just looked it up… it figures… the dire 1980s) – pretty much all subsequently disproved – set the tone for what we have 40 years later.
Fat Boy J. can do anything, looking shite at every turn, and get an easy ride from the Tory press …
Woe betide Keir Starmer if, next month, he forgets to wear a poppy (unelectable) or wears one too far to the right or too far to the left or too up or too down.
He’ll be toast.
Heartbreaking, in every sense.
Foot would be remembered as one of the greatest talents ever to have graced the Labour party if he hadn’t had the misfortune to become its leader.
That’s genuinely very poignant.
Well said.
Around 1998/9 we (Gollancz) published a book by Michael Foot, so I wound up having dinner chez Foot in Hampstead. Lovely evening, Foot had all his marbles and held forth a lot. But this was two years or so into the Blair years, and he seemed like such a man of the past. It was like having dinner with Lloyd George.
Ironically, he was Blair’s political mentor.
…and not anything like as left-wing as he’s made out to be.
Indeed not. Is anybody?*
*Rhetorical question.
Exactly my thought.
Yes, Mateo Carreras, currently; none more left wing:
[from 4 minute mark]
What on earth are they doing? Handball, surely? And look at the state of those goalposts! I’m writing to Seth Splatter about this…
Handball yes! All the berluddy time! That’s why the game is full of penalties…which they never take from The Proper Spot!
I’m actually feeling a bit sorry for her now. She’s the only person in the world, apart from a few Home Counties racists, who didn’t know how awful she’d be at this. And then, about a week ago, it dawned on her. Everyone she trusted lied to her, and everyone she ignored was right.
Imagine her tortured dreams. Then imagine waking from them and reality being worse. She can’t make it stop. She has no allies, no advisors and no escape. The headlines, the cameras, the whispers in the Tea Room. No one has ever, ever, ever been so utterly humiliated. And it will be like this for the rest of her life.
I think we’ve all worked with someone who’s risen to the top with great self belief only to be the wrong person to do the job.
I’m afraid I don’t feel sorry for her, she wanted the job, she was ’employed’by the worst interview panel and her co-workers didn’t want her.
I don’t think she’ll even end up on the after dinner speaking circuit reduced to stopping people as if she were the Ancient Mariner saying ” I used to be prime minister now I’m reduced to being a question on trivial pursuit as the shortest serving prime minister”
Nope. Can’t do it. She chose the dark side. Accept the light sabre of truth she must.
Well, essentially these are the leaders you get when you allow Party members to choose them.
Party MP’s should really be the ones choosing. They might not be much more intelligent than your card carying (and therefore self-excluding, in a sane world) Party member, but at least have a much more sensible view of what the candidates are actually like. Or at least (human nature etc) the candidate’s chances of returning them to their seat in the next GE.
Wait! I’ve just remembered that Nadine D really hates Hunt. So it’s not all bad.
Yay, upsides!
Apparently Miriam Margolyes isn’t mad keen either.
He’s uniting the country!
“…uniting the country” offers great anagrammatical potential.
Hey! Has anybody noticed that Jeremy Hunt’s surname rhymes with cunt?
Good gracious! (Monocle flies out…)
Good story in this morning’s Times about the hassles Kwasimodo faced in
Getting a seat on a flight back to London as no one wanted to let him near
Business or Economy
… nervous flyers refused to get on because seeing him reminded them of nosediving
Probably ended up in the cockpit.
Good gag, JG, well shared.
The front pages won’t cheer Liz up. “Lame Duck” – the Sun (Rupe has obviously spoken). “Shambolic”- the Daily Mail, already. Only the Express is keeping Da Faith. Their masthead says “We stand with the people of Ukraine…
The people of the UK, however, can fuck off and die”
Go back to your pork markets and prepare for opposition.
Go back to your pork markets and prepare for oblivion.
Hopefully.
Surely Farmaggedon
The Daily Star has set up a live feed of a lettuce next to a photo of the PM. Which one will last longer? The bookies are taking bets.
If she goes first then the lettuce becomes PM.
And we *still* have no say in that.
General Election now!
No you communist, it should remain in the power of 80,000 senile and pathologically selfish octagenarians. “Tax cuts? Oh bravo, she’ll do!”
An item of food becoming primeminister??!
Well, what do you expect with this First, Pass the Toast system we have.
Our last prime minister was a bucket of shit, which is an item of food if you’re a fly.
“First, Pass The Toast”…
Marvellous.
I’m going to sell my house and send you all the equity.
Deal!
That’s a written contract now so, by law, you’re going to have to go through with it.
What are you, a cop?
Because, if you are, you have to tell us..
No. But I’m an expert in contract law and that means Jeff’s equity in his house is now mine.
I had my fingers crossed when typing, so no valid contract was ever created.
Ha ha, you’ll never take me alive, copper / contract lawyer!
@jeff – Dammit, I didn’t think of that.
Ha-haaah!
“…and with one bound* he was free!!”
*after a considerable run-up
Not sure about that. The lettuce voted Romaine.
Why? Cos….
Another little gem from The Mooche.
I have more, that was just the tip of the iceberg.
…and here we are back at the Star.
Doubtless it has a radicchioal agenda.
(It was that or try and shoehorn in lollo rosso)
It’s a red lettuce day if you do.
Till the endive my days.
With this new cancel culture lark you don’t get a frisee.
God, so many people, so little equity…
A live feed. Especially if you’re a rabbit.
I’ll get me surgical appliance.
That’s one of the few pictures of Truss I’ve seen where she’s not got her gob wide open and doing that weird Gollum face she loves making.
The Daily Fail now seems to be digging up Ben Wallace as Keir Starmer’s next seat warmer
There are all these “unity” candidates which, er, more than half the party seems to hate.
Gentlemen you can’t fight in here, this is the War Room!
On the subject of old B/W movies, Liz seems to be doing a Norma Desmond in Chequers with Nadine D hovering around the media like a Poundshop Mrs. Danvers
Johnson presumably portrayed by Fatty Arbuckle.
Mogg as Nosferatu.
According to the official papers*, BJ laughed so much on Friday that he soiled himself.
(*) front page of the Sunday Sport, viewed across the petrol station forecourt.
I think you’re mixing him up with William Shatner.
With the British electorate as Virginia Rappe
Hunt has now ripped up all of the mini-budget. Truss is nowhere to be seen.
What if Truss resigns with immediate effect ? Does that mean – oh Lord – Therese Coffey as Deputy takes over as PM? That’ll soothe the markets and make the Tories electable! Not !
(Hope you’re enjoying this weapons-grade satire)
Has Liz found a big fridge to hide in?
@fentonsteve
No, but she’ll be getting the cold shoulder every time she steps out in public between now and her death
Anyone checked on the lettuce lately?
My experience of hiding bodies in fridges is that Liz only needs quite a small one.
Fridge rather than freezer? You prefer fresh to frozen I suppose. And wee as she is, it would still be a bugger to get Liz in the microwave.
From chaos government to Chaos defrost.
We’ve discussed this before. Fridge for short term, freezer for medium to !ong term and an incinerator for ever.
So where does Tupperware come into this?
Tupperware!
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0569394/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl
Is that your safe word?
Unfortunately, body parts are inconveniently shaped and don’t fit easily into ready made boxes. Plastic sheeting and bags are much better. These days, tie technology is truly amazing.
As I reference in the above link they certainly do in Eerie Indiana.
@hubert-rawlinson
That sounds great!
Recommended?
I recall it as excellent, I was discussing it with my son this year as we both watched it and enjoyed it at the time, he’d be about 4 or 5 then.
Hmm, sounds a bit ‘difficult and challenging’ for me; might give it a swerve.
Compostable, too! Gotta think of the planet, don’tcha?
Useless trivia I learned today: of the 8.9M tonnes of PET plastic produced last year, 6.9M tonnes was thrown away and only 9% of that was recycled.
75% of all the aluminium ever created is still in use.
So be sure to recycle the body bag.
Of course. I’ve lost count of the number of times I’ve re-used the same bag.
Your modern body bag isn’t any of this PET nonsense, it’s potato starch. Extra
fibre for Johnny maggot.
You’ll be needing a chest freezer I’m thinking.*
*Random smut alert.
Surely a picnic cooler box would be enough.
Given that the Health Secretary is not only fond of a cigar but also apparently ready to ditch the Government’s proposed anti-smoking action plan, I propose that she be re-named Therese Coughy.
Oh, I say! Very good!
In a special two-fer available only to Afterworders, I’m also able to offer ‘Lettuce of No Confidence’.
(Cries of “shame! shame!”)
You wouldn’t let it lie…
Just Throw Soup.
@Jeff
Therese Coffin if she doesn’t pack in the gaspers and lose a few inches around her waist
@jaygee
*applause*
@jaygee
PS you realise that by voluntarily referring to ‘inches’, JRM will record that as vote in favour of a return to Imperial measures?
Oh dear, looks like I’ve put my foot in it again
Arf!
Goodness, I bet you’re popular
‘Gallery outrage – Heinz to review product launch’
Worst Warhol tribute ever, says one-eared Dutchman.
‘Sunflowers’
– Vincent van Gogh, 1888, soup on oil on canvas
This is why he fell out with Gaugin, who was more of a minestrone man.
‘Ha ha, what did you paint *that* with, Paul… a spoon?’
‘Well…’
Looks like Jezza is in charge leaving Lizzy to fall back on her wit and charisma to see her through.
‘Pound falls, Penny rises’
Tin-ear Lizzy?
The 1922 Committee are back in town
a single WhatsApp message from a prominent member of the 2019 intake of Tory MPs. The message said: “Rishi PM. Hunt CX. Penny FS. And it’s a done deal.”
That seems likely to be what will happen.
Doesn’t really matter as they have no chance of winning the next GE
Hard call for the incoming leader who faces losing hugely if he/she calls an election now or the possibility of an even bigger pasting in two years time.
You think? Given 2 years of relentless propaganda from the usual suspects in the MSM and the average memory span of voters, they will still win. They will wait.
Yes. Much better odds for them in ’24 if they can ride it out until then. Also a greater chance of Labour imploding.
They don’t have the option of sitting and waiting, they’re the government and they’re in the middle of a clusterfuck of calamities, many of them self-inflicted. I think the last few weeks have been their Black Wednesday moment – it took about fifteen years for them to crawl out of that hole, and then they only did it by pretending to be nice. That’s hardly likely now with the poster boy for austerity in charge of things.
But they do. They are in power and can call the shots re a GE. Agreed it’s likely that Truss will go but that does not automatically mean an election.
They’re a shambles and the fact that the name Boris is now getting mentioned more and more is evidence of the fact.
Even if they put someone reasonably sensible like Sunak in charge, there seems to be very little chance they can clean up the mess they’ve made in the 26 months available to them
As Mike H says, above Labour have a history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory – Let’s all hope and pray that history doesn’t repeat itself.
Alright, alright, alriiiiiiiggghhht!
Speaking of whom (and on a sombre note), I can recommend McConaughey’s piece about the Uvalde school shooting in this month’s Esquire. I went in expecting to curl my lip at a ‘Luvvies to the rescue!!’ job, but I was actually very impressed by it and by him & his wife. Worth a look, I’d say.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a41502792/matthew-mcconaughey-gun-reform-uvalde/
This was actually a tribute to the Falling Over On a Beach Hitmaker, Neil Kinnock.
Ah…Sheffield, was it?
I still haven’t de-cringed from that.
Brighton.
No, he’s referring to the notorious Sheffield “victory rally” just before the 1992 election which, er, they lost.
😉
If that prominent Tory MP thinks that this will steady the ship and be the end of the matter – they are living in the sunlit uplands of cloud cuckoo land.
I think it’s a M*A*S*H job to stop the patient bleeding to death on the spot, frankly. Underlying heart problems predict a serious medical emergency any time in the next two years.
Thanks for sorting that out mate. Do we not come into this at all? Best, the Electorate
When do we ever?
FPTP = suck it up, vote don’t counters/Count don’t voters.
Yeah, it seems reasonable for any democracy to have a couple of mad ideas just to give the map a few different colours and the more senior democracies can have dibs on the most bonkers ones. But, having exercised the process where a catastrophic leader is replaced internally by his own party and so spectacularly sh*t the bed in doing so, allowing the very same fiends to put it right does seem an indulgence akin to Dot Cotton agreeing to have Nasty Nick prepare her Christmas dinner..
“I’ll lead Tories into next election”, says embattled Liz Truss.
For the good of us all, let’s hope she does. We don’t want anyone who might win doing it, do we?
She says ‘deliver’ a lot. All part of the scripted mantra.
She can’t improvise at all. She waits a few seconds after a question has been asked visibly debating with herself if she can make a few off the cuff comments that will address the query, then decides she can’t and says a sentence with ‘deliver’ in it.
If only Clement Attlee were alive today. He’d by 139 years old. Er…
And ‘growth’.
I don’t want everything to grow. I have a verruca on my toe (a momento of the last time I went swimming) which is a buuger to shift, and I don’t want it to grow, thankyouverymuch.
Aha! So, now we see the first name…
…none other than Mr so-called ‘fenton’ steve…
…ringleader (and possibly entire membership) of…the Afterword Anti-Growth Coalition.
Now we know, Brothers and Sisters, now we know.
Keep an eye on.
I’m certainly not keen on growths.
Oh I’m sooo sorry sir, that joke’s already been taken.
Am I known for making jokes?
Growth was last week.
It’s all about stability now
Hmm, ‘stability’ has just so much less joke- potential though, doesn’t it?
Though I think there’s a possible work-on involving ‘stability > steadiness > support > Truss > no thought > unreadiness > incapability’….
…I’ll get my best people onto it…
…Moose? Yeah, if you see any of those really funny guys from the Afterword could you tell them I’ve got some work to put their way? Yeah, cheers mate. Yeah yeah, outside of IR35.
You won’t get stability from people who still use stabilisers.
See? I got nuthin to work with
Helium is relatively stable.
Maybe Jezza needs to introduce public spending cuts in a squeaky voice
The trouble is, Stephen King keeps nicking it
‘… people who still use stabilisers’!
Love it, you’ve got the gig, LVs in first post tomorrow (2nd class, obvs).
As for RD’s post below, much roffling happening here, great imagery (redolent of Coogan et al).
As for your own rejoinder to RD’s post I can only shake my head in disappointment and then non-judgementally say…
‘… what a mean-spirited post’…
Ha ha ha, genuine lols here. Well done, that man.
And now it’s come to this…
…on 1 October, Damien Wirst, one of your and my favourite Young British Arsewipes, announced that he’s down to his last few hundred £million and is being forced to burn his very very popular paintings…simply in order to keep warm!!!1!
That. Is. A. Disgrace!
Where’s the humanity, Chancellor Hunt?????
Or, if you’re James Naughtie, Hancellor Chunt.
It would have taken Jim 20 mins to arrive at the point of being able to pose that short, simple question…
…by which time the nation had hit the Snooze button five times.
“A lot of our listeners, up and down the country, and we do have listeners all over the country, will be sitting down to their breakfast this morning – porridge or cereal or boiled eggs or maybe even toast with marmalade or jam or maybe even just butter, those people will be wondering where is the humanity, and if you don’t know where it is do you know why has it gone and how long is it going to take to come back? In just ten seconds, please, Garry Richardson’s on next”
[Snooze]
Thinks: ‘Five more minutezzzzzzz…’
We can always rely on the Muppets…..
Genius reply to Braverman’s tweeted resignation letter:
“When the going gets tofu, the tofu get going”.
But you said I could sink the boats. YOU SAID I COULD SINK THE BOATS.
Not fair. Not playing any more.
Nobody puts tofu in the corner.
Newsflash:
PM Hunt appoints Guardian-reading tofu-eating wokerati as new Transport Secretary; all private jet owners to be killed, and remains used to fill potholes in 8-lane M1 cyclepath. Seen as snub to Truss.
Sadly I think the vile Braverman has engineered her own exit in the hope of having another shot at the soon to be vacant PM post. Hopefully she’ll be handed her backside for a second time.
@fortuneight
This is my take on it too.
“Lord” Vaizey (how did that happen?) said this morning that there are still five or six of these deluded Berkxitters who still think they can be, nay, expect to be leader. So Prime Minister Starmer may well be facing Michael Fabricant and his alleged hair across the dispatch box.
Conflict at Cabinet meeting as Grant Shapps’ multiple personalities fight for same chair.
‘I’m a fighter not a quilter!’ rages coked-up nan in fabric brouhaha. Family ‘shocked and saddened’.
When I started this thread I think Stafford Cripps was Chancellor.
To my utter incredulity, Stafford Cripps’ term as Chancellor ended on this very date, 19 October, in 1950:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stafford_Cripps
Historians now see it as a pre-emptive snub to Truss.
“Snub to Truss” is coincidentally my favourite volume of the OED.
Cheque in the post for that beauty. Very good indeed.
Another amusing factoid: Braverman’s tenure as HS is the shortest since the Duke of Wellington’s stint in 1834.
Her stint was shorter than a stent. I think it was a stunt.
@Moose-the-Mooche
He’s up next Wednesday
Lord Palmerston’s gone suspiciously quiet.
King to withdraw Tories’ Royal Warrant as ‘suppliers of natural party of Government’.
That’s about as likely as the King withdrawing Lea & Perrins’ Royal Warrant as ‘suppliers of worcestershire sauce’.
Welllll, I dunno…
…he’s shown promising form so far.
The Chief Whip has resigned (according to Richard Coles on Twitter, which doesn’t seem an odd way to find things out these days). Who’s going to maintain party discipline now?
Tory Whip has always seemed a tautologous phrase.
Braverman engineering her own exit for a remuneration -related reason and/or she sees an opportunity for the top job.
Isn’t it ironic – don’t you reckon – that Schnorbitz takes over a role because the last incumbent committed a security breach. The bloke who has gone by several aliases in the past for reasons that aren’t 100% clear.
More to the point, as a huge fan of the Redskins, what can our new Home Secretary do next time we kick over the statues?
Should he stay or should he go?
He’ll have to ask his cousin
At school, I was in the same class as André Shapps, brother of Grant Shapps and cousin of Mick Jones.
He seemed to spend most of his time building and refining a sort of primitive guitar effects box, or effects pedal, or whatever it was.
Coffey denies manhandling Tory MPs. Close but no cigar.
@Moose-the-Mooche
Wonder if she is a descendant of the famous Liberal politician., William Beveridge,
who somehow took a wrong turn in life
So we’ve Coffey, cheese and a load of nuts.
Sounds like the punchline to the joke about the man suffering from premature ejaculation
Right, that’s it, I resign from the Afterword!
Reports about my supposed resignation from the Afterword are untrue and are aimed at destabilising the Mother of all Chatboards Based on A Now-defunct Popular Music Magazine.
People should not lose sight of the fact that what this chatboard needs now, more than ever, is unity. No, stability!
I’m focused on delivery.
In other words, I’m waiting for the Evri van.
You’re exactly what the Tories need right now! Someone with ‘Evri van’ appeal who cuts-through with all demographics!
Get yourself into The Deep in a comedy bathing-suit and you’re home and dry!
‘Coffee and the bill please’ was the punchline I heard.
Steve Baker says that No 10 told him to tell the media that Braverman will be reappointed in the New Year.
Confused?
Baker is on ‘Peston’ right now. Peston is suggesting it’s a ruse by Truss to get Braverman to resign, whereas I thought it might have been a plot in Braverman’s part to come up with an excuse to resign in order to oppose Truss. This stuff is more convoluted than Hiuse of the Dragon.
@Gatz
“Hiuse”
Hark at Mr. Hoity-Toity
That’s CPP – Comedy Policeman Pronunciation.
“What are hhhyeewwww going to dewwww abeut this my lad?”
That’s half a bottle of wine on what would be a school night if I wasn’t I leave this week. I can’t comment on the Brooklyn street-guy pronunciation of ‘poilitical’ in the title of the newer thread.
Charles Walker MP (Conservative) really let rip. The clip is below – it’s worth watching for the way he says it, rather than just the words. Turmoil !
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-politics-63320605
He’s looking for talent. Good luck with that…
Aren’t we all. Er…
I thought this was really telling. He’s clearly furious.
I went to bed with the Chief & Deputy Whips having resigned. Woke up to find they haven’t and that they are now prowling the corridors of Whitehall looking for the 40 traitorous bastards who abstained. Couldn’t make this up.
ps no wish to deprive Moose of a third hamper but isn’t it time to start a new thread (like what we do on the Wordle one) to save all this scrolling (especially hard on us sinisters).
Howsabout “Silly Billy – He’s Back” “?
Can’t we get it over with and just skip to “Silly Billy – She’s Gone”?
It doesn’t work as a joke any more because I was comparing whoever was chancellor at the time (Sir Francis Bacon? Helmut Kohl?) to Denis Healey going-not-going to the IMF in 1976, which led directly to the beginning of punk rock (probably according to John Harris or one of those stupid BBC documentaries)
We need a new analogy, nay, a paradigm, nay a small painted wooden duck and a miniature trumpet.
Interesting that avuncular Uncle Denis Healey (“Silly Billy”, eyebrows, Mike Yarwood, etc) was one of the few members of the 1970s Labour cabinet who had been a paid-up member of the Communist Party…I wonder if he’d have got anywhere near the Treasury these days, or if the Express/Mail would have taken him out by now…
Digression over – as you were.
Dude was from the 30s, everyone was in the CP then, it was like joining the Cubs. Even Churchill was in them for a bit (citation needed)
Arf!
If I recall correctly, entry into Cambridge required 2 As and a CCCP.
USE UPDATES!!
….they go a bit sticky after a a while etc
Yeah but if somebody updates in the middle of the thread you still have to scroll down to the later newest ones.
Anyways let’s all go to “Peter Schmeichel”
Has he resigned as well??
@Moose-the-Moose
Given that he’s such a safe pair of hands it would be sad to see him go…
Only eight more to go to your treble hamper, M!
Think of me as one of those well-intentioned but ultimately incredibly dim eejits who leaps out of the crowd to help the knackered marathon runner over the line only to cause his disqualification.
Suella has already flounced off the subs bench and gone back down the tunnel…
SSIIIUUUUU!!!
(I apologise for the Kammy-like timing of this commentary)
Being 7 hours ahead of you lot time zone wise, when I went to bed it was all still relatively calm. To wake up to shitstorm that is the current UK Government is very much in the “you couldn’t make this up” territory.
Did you mean ‘I went to bed with the Chief and Deputy Whips, having resigned’?
Only a week into the job and Jeremy’s looking rough already.
Applause from Farmer Jim
No applause from Benn
It’s all a bit Restaurant At The End of the Universe now, isn’t it?
Every week it’s the excellent Chris Mason outside No. 10 with his 70’s hair and ringbinder doing another 24 hour shift as the current government flings its shit at the walls inside.
‘Excellent’ and ‘Chris Mason’ are not words I would put together. He was a joke as Any Questions presenter. I’m just glad anybody but him has the job now. BBC Political Editor seems like a joke job, from the people who have had the job since the days of John Cole.
And that’s comment 300! When does Gerard Butler show up?
Political coverage is a bit of a joke altogether, isn’t it? Daily Politics usually gets two people from a right wing newspaper, somebody from a shadowy think-tank and a token lefty person who represents absolutely no-one and hey hey it’s all balanced. And correspondents who say “This is unprecedented… I’ve never seen anything like this in my whole career” – well of course you haven’t, you’re twelve years old. The coalition to you is like the Punic wars.
If football was covered in such a frivolous fashion I’ve lost faith in this argument already.
I turn to podcasts now – The Rest is Politics, Newsagents, etc – hey it may be an echo chamber, but the acoustics are good. I switched on R4 this morning “Good morning. This is the Today Programme with Amal Rajan and…” and immediately switched it off again – not interested in the amateurish efforts of a Lebedev stooge.
The Lebedev Stooge – three more starf**er interviews from him later
The Three Lebedev Stooges:
Johnson, Crosby, and Mount.
He was much better with Stills and Nash.
I like his glasses.
One person was elected by the British public with a manifesto and a mandate until January ‘25.
So “Go Nad” has decided that a) Boris was elected as president at the last GE and b) when he’s elected he gets more than five years, unlike every other parliament.
Give it up, love – you’re at least thirty years too old and several notches not posh enough for him.
You think Johnson is choosy in his ‘romantic’ entreaties?
Yes. They have to be younger than him, posh, well-connected, transparently opportunistic and fertile. The only thing Need-ine has got right is being blonde.
I’m not sure Jennifer Arcuri ticked all those boxes.
Neither is Doris, but I can well imagine Johnson doesn’t object to bathing in her loving gaze.
Sir Graham Brady has gone to No.10, and I’m going to bed. Wonder what I’ll wake up to?
Tory chair and so called deputy PM there as well, and Liz Truss making a statement at 1.30….she’s toast shirley?
No she isn’t. Toast is nice.
PS. Still with the same “delivered” crap? Even now?
Wake up Mike it’s all kicked off.
Lodey.
And she’s gone. Good riddance, but where can the Conservatives possibly got from here after the last 2 PMs have been the scum at the bottom of the barrel and then the scrapings?
That’s the Pork Markets fucked then.
No mate that was Cameron. Do keep up.
(…..sorry)
Matthew Parris in The Times on Saturdays has been spot on with his dismantlings of Johnson and Truss.
I look forward to the weekend.
Enter stage left, to save the party…………Boris!!
Boris: (produces bottle from within ill-fitting suit) “Did somebody say there’s a party?”
That’s an incredibly offensive suggestion. Boris would never supply the wine himself.