My first thought. But the fallout would have been too awful to contemplate. The tinfoil hat MAGA brigade would have immediately identified a Dem plot (may already be doing so in fact) and would have taken to the streets (may already be doing so in fact). Trump is already milking it.
Nobody seems to be talking about where the bullet went after it passed through his right ear. Maybe that’s the one fatality.
He wouldn’t be happy with unheroic collateral damage, would he?
“The officials in question told both Newsmax’s Alex Salvi and Axios’ Juliegrace Brufke that Trump was hit by glass shards that may have erupted from the shattering of a teleprompter that was hit by gunfire.”
“Donald Trump Says Bullet Pierced His Ear: I Felt It ‘Ripping Through the Skin’ “
Someone else will probably have a go, now the idea is out there.
The secret service has to get it right every time. An assassin only has to get it right once.
Borrowed time?
First thought – Trump hired the world’s best sniper to just miss. His team then shot the sniper. Possibly I’ve been watching too many conspiracy movies
No lover of Farage, but if someone comes at you out of a crowd and throws the contents of a container or liquid in your face, you’re not going to have a clue whether it’s a banana milkshake or acid.
Saddest thing is that following on from the Cox and Ames assassinations, chucking stuff at pols on the stump will result in their becoming more and more inaccessible to “ordinary, decent working people”.
Very much doubt I’m the only AWer who stood outside 10 Downing Street for an early selfie on a 1960s school trip.
Innocent and more decent times long gone and never likely to return.
Maybe we’ll see a shard with a bloody smear across it that looks EXACTLY like OUR LORD, proving that the orange divot has DIVINE PROTECTION!!! Hallelujah!!!!!!
What was that grassy knoll doing, up on the rooftop?
Have we just witnessed the world’s first AI assassination attempt?
Am I a little teapot, short and stout?
It was the flag that was suspended between two cranes high in the sky above his head.
The shooter was killed by the secret service and another person died in the mayhem. Certainly not staged by anyone. Trump’s immediate instinct was to milk the moment for all its worth. He will continue to do so – no surprises there.
A set up? They’d risk gettting that close to his head? Murdering that 20 year old,? Someone else dead and another seriously injured ?
We’ve already had, on here, the assertion that it was a glass shard from a teleprompter and that Trump is just grandstanding saying it was a bullet, when you can clearly see the teleprompters intact after he is on the ground and if the teleprompter was hit and glass flew up you’d see it and it would have been reported on. I mean FFS.
Right. Because the possibility that this was just another socially-excluded young man radicalised by social media, with legal access to the kind of weapon needed to do something like this, is just too dull and commonplace. So it has to be a conspiracy.
“The officials in question told both Newsmax’s Alex Salvi and Axios’ Juliegrace Brufke that Trump was hit by glass shards that may have erupted from the shattering of a teleprompter that was hit by gunfire.”
Nothing to do with conspiracy here, just another interpretation of what happened from those who were there. INTERPRETATION. That’s all we have.
“The conspiracy is that Trump was lying about being shot in the ear”? This makes literally no sense. There’s a conspiracy asserting that Trump’s a liar?
I agree that it looks like Trump was mindful of the optics that presented with him shaking his fist , blood smeared as he was helped off stage. Remarkable that he had the presence of mind to do it either out of a fighting instinct or as a photo op.
The flag backdrop. Well it was a whopping flag that provided the perfect backdrop.
Yes, bizarre.
However this report suggests the cops did investigate which caused the shooter to hurry his shots at Trump.
One local police officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and Crooks quickly took a shot towards Trump, and that’s when Secret Service snipers shot him, said the officials, who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
I have to have a certain tiny dollop of grudging admiration for him
He’s just narrowly escaped an assassination attempt. But instead of going to pieces, he has the presence of mind to realise that this is a stupendous photo opportunity. And he is darn right.
The problem with arguing that harsh rhetoric directly and inevitably leads to literal violence is that when someone takes a shot at the political opponent you’ve spent months arguing will destroy your democracy/the country/the planet, you’ve not really left yourself anywhere to go.
Ditto: wishing death or incarceration upon your opponent, fomenting conspiracy theories around them and so on. These things are either wrong for both sides or for neither. It took less than two minutes from bullet hitting ear to the first text I received from a Democrat pal deploying the term “false flag”, and the subsequent 36 hours have been a welter of conspiracy theorising. If you can figure this stuff out within minutes/hours of the event you should either be heading up the CIA or putting down the Tom Clancy.
Perhaps the single worst thing about Donald Trump is that he’s managed to recast US politics in his own image. No one wants to admit it, because everyone feels that the virtue of their own position/the inherent evil of their opponent should permit them special dispensation, but it’s what’s happened. Just look around.
I don’t know if Trump can be said to have won the election – the last 10 days speak to how fast things can change in politics – but I really, really don’t see how Biden can win from here. We have one candidate who stayed onstage during a shooting to fire up his supporters and another who looks like he probably falls asleep during his afternoon Columbo. Which means we’re probably going to find out whether all the dire warnings have substance or not. And it’ll be pretty disconcerting either way.
With a combination of crushing lack of self awareness, combined with top-drawer Premiership-level chutzpah, Trump will call for national unity and togetherness in his upcoming rally speech tonight. This oughtta be good.
Imagine the scenes in the USA, if you will, if it had been a black man or a muslim or a hispanic illegal immigrant that took a potshot at The Donald, instead of a white, registered Republican right-wing gun nut. Then we’d see some unrest.
I’d be perfectly happy to hear of the demise of Donald Trump, but not by assassination. Oh no.
I’d much prefer to hear that he’d got into an uncontrollable rage at a liberal journalist at a press conference somewhere, gone purple in the face and just dropped dead of a stroke. That would do.
A couple of years back, JD Vance wrote a very well received book called Hillbilly Elegy in which he wrote some very unflattering things about Trump. His rise through the ranks has been meteoric as he’s still in his first term as a senator
Shocking news.
American democracy has seen far too many moments like this.
The shooter is dead. And mercifully “President Trump” ( why do they call him that?) is unscathed.
Difficult not to be cynical though!
All former holders of the office are automatically referred to as
“Mr. President” after they leave office
Going to be interesting to see how this works at sloping out
time in the unlikely event he ever does go to chokey
Bugger. He missed
My first thought. But the fallout would have been too awful to contemplate. The tinfoil hat MAGA brigade would have immediately identified a Dem plot (may already be doing so in fact) and would have taken to the streets (may already be doing so in fact). Trump is already milking it.
Nobody seems to be talking about where the bullet went after it passed through his right ear. Maybe that’s the one fatality.
Apparently, it says here, the injury was caused by a shard of glass shattered by the bullet.
Not what Trump says. He wouldn’t be lying, surely.
He wouldn’t be happy with unheroic collateral damage, would he?
“The officials in question told both Newsmax’s Alex Salvi and Axios’ Juliegrace Brufke that Trump was hit by glass shards that may have erupted from the shattering of a teleprompter that was hit by gunfire.”
“Donald Trump Says Bullet Pierced His Ear: I Felt It ‘Ripping Through the Skin’ “
It’s no ‘Weasels ripped my Flesh’ though.
The missing bullet will eventually be found in former Texas Governor John Connally’s leg
Close, but no cigar.
I understand your viewpoint – interesting article in this week’s New Statesman on how political assassination invariably makes things worse.
Ah, I must have been writing mine as you posted yours! Not to worry…always space for two lines of attack. Er…
Orangey seems to have finally got round to watching that DVD of Bob Roberts
Rudy G sent him last Christmas.
Get dead soon, Donald
Republicans are accusing Biden of inciting an assassination. 😱
I think we are going to see a lot of his bloodied face, tiny fist in the air. “This is the fighter America needs!”
Just when you think America couldn’t get any more insane, it finds a way.
Trump’s going to win. And things will get very bad, very quickly.
And there’s an Iwo Jima style photo of the bloodied hero beneath the Star Spangled Banner. He’s going to be President for the rest of his life.
@Chiz
Probably planning to amend the two-term limit as we speak
Someone else will probably have a go, now the idea is out there.
The secret service has to get it right every time. An assassin only has to get it right once.
Borrowed time?
And him such a fan of the ‘second amendments guys’ too. There’s gratitude for you.
First thought – Trump hired the world’s best sniper to just miss. His team then shot the sniper. Possibly I’ve been watching too many conspiracy movies
I’m going to buy a new bubble gum card album, anticipating the eventual arrival of a new set of cards illustrating the Second American Civil War.
Card #1: Donald Trump is shot in the ear.
Hope they’ll include some fake Confederate dollar bills in the packets too.
God, I remember those from when I was at primary school;
They were brilliant -‘ unimaginably gory and the notes were
pretty cool, too
https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&sca_esv=f6f31552386ff1c3&sca_upv=1&channel=mac_bm&q=american+civil+war+bubble+gum+cards+1965&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0Aa4sjWe7Rqy32pFwRj0UkWd8nbOJfsBGGB5IQQO6L3J_TJ4YMS4eRay1mUcjRHkZwkNnuzbvXdHSnZt8SI-ypec-U-KajbXe9hbStxnPJuWxTCm8NISzlcRgh-mkg5a1XRWoiIVMkT5RYbraDRnHsJFse2AdcMQ0qNzsDHDLrzlWTINDALsSJJNGpMRvO4XnQg0w6_&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiU8Ofkm6aHAxVqZ0EAHWN9K4gQtKgLegQIExAB&biw=1174&bih=567&dpr=2
“Let me get my shoes”. One for the history books.
Farage is saying he too has been the subject of physical attacks. 😂 not sure a banana milkshake quite compares.
No lover of Farage, but if someone comes at you out of a crowd and throws the contents of a container or liquid in your face, you’re not going to have a clue whether it’s a banana milkshake or acid.
Saddest thing is that following on from the Cox and Ames assassinations, chucking stuff at pols on the stump will result in their becoming more and more inaccessible to “ordinary, decent working people”.
Very much doubt I’m the only AWer who stood outside 10 Downing Street for an early selfie on a 1960s school trip.
Innocent and more decent times long gone and never likely to return.
Having watched various clips you see both teleprompters intact after the shooting.
If you’ve got a couple of hours to spare, give this a watch. 35 years old and still incredibly relevant
This will run and run
Won’t be very long before Trump’s people start selling shards of the teleprompter via full page ads in The National Enquirer.
Or before said shards are credited with the same mystical healing powers as splinters of the true cross used to have in medieval times
Maybe we’ll see a shard with a bloody smear across it that looks EXACTLY like OUR LORD, proving that the orange divot has DIVINE PROTECTION!!! Hallelujah!!!!!!
Is it possible that the bullet passed through his head and hit nothing but his ear on the way out?
I’m fighting hard against the growing conviction that this was a set-up…this photo will never go away, ever. Soon to be a major tea towel.
Turns out the shooter was a registered Republican. ‘Kid, how would you like to make sure President Trump is back in the White House where he belongs?’
That’s the money shot as Stormy Daniel’s might have added in her previous life
Some fuel for the tsunami of conspiracy theories heading our way…
Anyone know from what angle that shot was taken?
There was no flag behind him in the video footage of the front of the stage.
Also, the flag appears to be flying upside down – traditionally a sign of distress
Oh do stop it, for fuck’s sake.
No need to get your knickers in a twist.It was clearly a piss take.
You seriously think Trump’s gang wouldn’t manipulate a photo
To make Orangey more heroic? I wouldn’t put it past him
Police have taken a grassy knoll in for questioning.
What was that grassy knoll doing, up on the rooftop?
Have we just witnessed the world’s first AI assassination attempt?
Am I a little teapot, short and stout?
Re upside down flag: also a MAGA / QAnon sign.
It was the flag that was suspended between two cranes high in the sky above his head.
The shooter was killed by the secret service and another person died in the mayhem. Certainly not staged by anyone. Trump’s immediate instinct was to milk the moment for all its worth. He will continue to do so – no surprises there.
A set up? They’d risk gettting that close to his head? Murdering that 20 year old,? Someone else dead and another seriously injured ?
We’ve already had, on here, the assertion that it was a glass shard from a teleprompter and that Trump is just grandstanding saying it was a bullet, when you can clearly see the teleprompters intact after he is on the ground and if the teleprompter was hit and glass flew up you’d see it and it would have been reported on. I mean FFS.
Right. Because the possibility that this was just another socially-excluded young man radicalised by social media, with legal access to the kind of weapon needed to do something like this, is just too dull and commonplace. So it has to be a conspiracy.
My God, Chiz is part of the cover up
Hardly a surprise to those who have been following the Wordle threads.
I’ve said too much. Anyone asks, you ain’t seen me, right?
The Glass Shard Theory was “reported on”, Junes:
“The officials in question told both Newsmax’s Alex Salvi and Axios’ Juliegrace Brufke that Trump was hit by glass shards that may have erupted from the shattering of a teleprompter that was hit by gunfire.”
Nothing to do with conspiracy here, just another interpretation of what happened from those who were there. INTERPRETATION. That’s all we have.
The conspiracy is that Trump was lying about being shot in the ear.
“The conspiracy is that Trump was lying about being shot in the ear”? This makes literally no sense. There’s a conspiracy asserting that Trump’s a liar?
Heard it mentioned as a possibility from my ex and two friends all around 50 or (well) over, immediately after it was reported Ludicrous to me.
(Edit) Post I was replying to disappeared
Just to be clear, I meant that the photo was a set up, not the assassination attempt. No mention of glass shards here, you’ll notice.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/14/us/politics/photo-path-trump-assassination.html
The NYT not covering a story fairly from all angles? That’s a first. *SARCASM EMOJI*
What were they shouting as the sniper opened fire?
Donald duck
Was that before or after the unmistakable quack of a rifle being fired rang out
“Donald duck” is an old canard.
👏
@slug
I wrote (and copyrighted) that joke many years ago.
The bill for your use of it is in the post
After all, what use is a duck without a bill?
One if its legs is both the same.
Is that what’s known as a mallardpropism?
Viaduct.
Down with this sort of thing
Will this propel his supporters even further. Of course. Is it likely to persuade undecided voters? Hard to see how.
“footage” of “shooter” right here:
https://www.rawstory.com/tmz-video-trump-gunman/
Shooter was a registered Republican, a geeky loner. Gee whiz.
I agree that it looks like Trump was mindful of the optics that presented with him shaking his fist , blood smeared as he was helped off stage. Remarkable that he had the presence of mind to do it either out of a fighting instinct or as a photo op.
The flag backdrop. Well it was a whopping flag that provided the perfect backdrop.
People on the ground, pointing, waving:
“HEY! THERE’S A GUY ON THE ROOF WITH A GUN!”
Cops on ground: *donuts*
Yes, bizarre.
However this report suggests the cops did investigate which caused the shooter to hurry his shots at Trump.
One local police officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who pointed his rifle at the officer. The officer retreated down the ladder, and Crooks quickly took a shot towards Trump, and that’s when Secret Service snipers shot him, said the officials, who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
Excellent point @Junior Wells.
I have to have a certain tiny dollop of grudging admiration for him
He’s just narrowly escaped an assassination attempt. But instead of going to pieces, he has the presence of mind to realise that this is a stupendous photo opportunity. And he is darn right.
He’s not human is he?
A lot of people who get fired at the first time don’t go to pieces.
It all depends upon the weapon being used. A howitzer usually has that effect.
Accuracy becomes less important.
The general vicinity will often do.
Seems they they are always “loners” or “drifters”, even if there is evidence that they might have friends or stay in the same place for a while.
He lived with his parents, which is probably another red flag. He used his dad’s gun.
Relax, dai. You’re in the clear on this one.
Is it possible to suffer PTSD-related mental illness a decade before the traumatic incident?
The problem with arguing that harsh rhetoric directly and inevitably leads to literal violence is that when someone takes a shot at the political opponent you’ve spent months arguing will destroy your democracy/the country/the planet, you’ve not really left yourself anywhere to go.
Ditto: wishing death or incarceration upon your opponent, fomenting conspiracy theories around them and so on. These things are either wrong for both sides or for neither. It took less than two minutes from bullet hitting ear to the first text I received from a Democrat pal deploying the term “false flag”, and the subsequent 36 hours have been a welter of conspiracy theorising. If you can figure this stuff out within minutes/hours of the event you should either be heading up the CIA or putting down the Tom Clancy.
Perhaps the single worst thing about Donald Trump is that he’s managed to recast US politics in his own image. No one wants to admit it, because everyone feels that the virtue of their own position/the inherent evil of their opponent should permit them special dispensation, but it’s what’s happened. Just look around.
I don’t know if Trump can be said to have won the election – the last 10 days speak to how fast things can change in politics – but I really, really don’t see how Biden can win from here. We have one candidate who stayed onstage during a shooting to fire up his supporters and another who looks like he probably falls asleep during his afternoon Columbo. Which means we’re probably going to find out whether all the dire warnings have substance or not. And it’ll be pretty disconcerting either way.
With a combination of crushing lack of self awareness, combined with top-drawer Premiership-level chutzpah, Trump will call for national unity and togetherness in his upcoming rally speech tonight. This oughtta be good.
In other news, Aileen Cannon has flushed the documents case against him right down his gold toilet. What a time to be alive!
Imagine the scenes in the USA, if you will, if it had been a black man or a muslim or a hispanic illegal immigrant that took a potshot at The Donald, instead of a white, registered Republican right-wing gun nut. Then we’d see some unrest.
I’d be perfectly happy to hear of the demise of Donald Trump, but not by assassination. Oh no.
I’d much prefer to hear that he’d got into an uncontrollable rage at a liberal journalist at a press conference somewhere, gone purple in the face and just dropped dead of a stroke. That would do.
I’d be happy with too Mike.
I was going to comment that Don had surprised us all by picking an old white guy to be his V.P. but I gather he’s only 39. Dude looks older than me..
A couple of years back, JD Vance wrote a very well received book called Hillbilly Elegy in which he wrote some very unflattering things about Trump. His rise through the ranks has been meteoric as he’s still in his first term as a senator
It’s a family memoir that has already been made into a movie that’s been on Netflix.
Didn’t know that. Is it worth watching?
No expense spared! Directed by Ron Howard and starring Glenn Close and Amy Adams.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6772802/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Vance has campaigned vigorously to end all aid to Ukraine. So he’d be very bad news for NATO. And great news for Putin.
Normally up on new films but this totally passed me by.