I wonder if the shift away from “edgy” violence in the arts and media will be paralleled by a similar shift from ‘edgy’ sex in the arts and media; it must be 40 years since Mapplethorpe argued you could skewer art pretensions by making it pornographic (see his biography). Then there was the Cosey Fan Tutti/ GPO exhibition at the ?ICA which also sought to deconstruct/ challenge/ [enter your post-modern buzz-word here] sex and pornography. Fashionistas eventually got it, Jeff Koons, his missus, all those photo essays of the fetish and s&m world, Madonna’s “Sex” book (oh those amusing transgressions she played with), Terry Richardson, porn as a norm, and the hiding in plain sight of sexual predators (I see Max Clifford and Weinstein as reflecting similar phenomena). I’m all for sex, and all for it being represented in an honest manner to accommodate a wide variety of orientations and preferences. Can this be done in a better way than currently? Discuss.
sex – the times they are a changin’?
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Worst Tinder bio ever.
I have a few ideas. But you probably wouldn’t want to hear them.
What’s wrong with being sexy?
I wasn’t aware that there has been a shift away from “edgy” violence in the arts and media.
Me neither.
Yeah, that statement confused me as well. Explain, Vincent, please!
Oh maybe it means that what was edgy is now mainstream. How bout that?
I am all for violence and sex in movies – the more there is generally the more I like the film. Don’t have a problem with it and If I did there is always the off button. With pornography I have an issue with violent or aggressive pornography. Slapping etc but ,and this is going to sound contradictory, there is a difference between S+M in its erotic form and the misogynistic, nasty pornography that is pervasive particularly in USA made porno films. One particular Porno film making company is really distasteful nasty stuff – I think they are called Anabolic. Real turn off.
No, Ana Bolic is the name of one of the actresses.
Erotica is what I like. Pornography is what you like.
(I think Gore Vidal said that… not specifically to me, mind)
Actually, Moose, I think you’ll find it was Ernie Isley.
Madonna sure did her utmost to take any erotica out of pornography.
Succeeded too, “beautiful people” it ain’t.
I’ve always found Madge to be aerotic, which isn’t even a word. She’s a cold, two-dimensional caricature of erotic, with a kind of desperation behind it. Look at me! I’m sexy! I’m shocking!
Really sexy people don’t have to try. Ask @Gary.
Yep. H.P… you’ve nailed Madonna. (Er…) . Not remotely erotic or sexy. Or shocking really.
No idea but let’s chuck this in from Michael Winterbottom. Basically a porn film intercut with footage of…er..Black Rebel Motorcycle Club, Primal Scream and Elbow. The sex is for real, apparently – and then Guy Garvey or Bobby Gillespie hove into view……
9 Songs is a decent film with a good soundtrack.