I mean, Rog can be a wretched old Tory but Bongo’s kid has been with them since ’96. I wasn’t aware of the goings on mentioned in the Metro article. So, Who replaces Zak?
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I mean, Rog can be a wretched old Tory but Bongo’s kid has been with them since ’96. I wasn’t aware of the goings on mentioned in the Metro article. So, Who replaces Zak?
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Is Ringo available?
The accusation is of overdrumming? Wasn’t Keith Moon in The Who?
I saw that Quadrophrenia tour in 1996 (Jesus! That long ago? Really?). Zak was rather good, far more Moon than Ringo.
Well Ringo was a better time keeper than Moon, he learnt from both of them as a child. I thought he was excellent live but he played on hardly any Who studio recordings made since he joined the touring band.
Who is gonna sack Daltrey for his Godawful voice these days?
His voice had gone when I saw them at Hyde Park about 10 years ago.
Perhaps he couldn’t hear the key then either.
I last saw them in 2013 (Quadrophenia live, great) but apparently it has improved since then, possibly due to an operation
Could this mean (confirm?) that Zak will be bashing pots with Oasis in the summer.
Don’t think it is due to that. the Who have precisely 2 gigs lined up right now. He could do both probably
And Chris Sharrock can rejoin the Icicle Works…yay!
…that would be amazing! Also, now we have Ian McNobb and Toger Daltrey in the same thread.
Though ‘pedantically’ it should be Todger.
yeah I know. I’ve just taken the canonical form ‘Toger’ from Zak’s not-at-all-unhinged Instagram posts.
Joey Waronker’s doing it.
Blimey
Roger doesn’t come out of that well. Pete seems to be doing his best to ignore it. The keyboard player is definitely amused by the antics.
I’d kick Roger out for not using a coaster under that mug.
I’d kick Zak out for dressing like a four year old.
Drumming seems fine.
Rog and Pete looking sadly quite past it.
They are very old. I thought Roger sang very well until it all broke down and Pete played what was necessary
The keyboard man points to his ears at one point, I think either suggesting that Toger should have IEMs (not sure he does?) or that the IEMs are not working.
My alternative view here is, this is a hard song to sing, and they were trying to do something special for the fans and both of them are overreaching a bit to get there (Pete is struggling as well, has to sit down.) – I also wonder why Zak was live-streaming rehearsals, that seems like a very ‘off’ thing for a session musician to do when his bosses are possibly not at their best.
They were probably road-testing ‘The Song is Over’ as a last song to play at their last show, which I guess is coming…?
Maybe there is a job for Zak in Van Morrison’s touring band?
there should be! After all, it appears that Zak can play ‘BOOM BOOM BOOM’ which is one of the standards that Ivan pulls out of his bag from time to time.
@leffe-gin have an up arrow!
One of the best tantrums I’ve ever seen on a big stage. And it seems that it was mostly about Roger’s screw up so he blamed the drummer. There should be a whole thread about on stage tantrums.
Wow. Roger sounds truly terrible.
Meet the new boss, etc.
I have no ability in playing any musical instruments or any understanding of music theory, so can someone explain how the “correct key” comes from the drums ? I thought they just provided the rhythm/tempo/groove etc etc.
If all Rog can hear is boom boom boom from the drums, isn’t that a mixing desk issue not a drummer issue ?
No drum screen that I can see, which would have helped and as everyone seems to use In Ear Monitors these days, I’d have thought that hearing himself would be less of an issue than with floor monitors. Maybe have a word with the monitor engineer…..
A. Linn, SAW’s Linn 9000 drum machine, isn’t busy these days. Does anyone have his/her/its number?
He meant he couldn’t hear the music over the drums too pitch against, so it’s a monitoring problem. Anyone who has played pubs knows this one but you’d think a band like the Who would have it sorted. Not the drummer’s fault anyway.
Certainly not the drummer’s fault on a large-scale gig like that one. Quite often the drummer’s fault on small-space pub gigs. There are a lot of drummers who can only play LOUD.
Old Man’s Blues.
Why don’t they just ff fade away with dignity? They surely don’t need the money.
Pete could fill the downtime by putting the finishing touches to that book…
*touches*…snigger.
Ooh er, hadn’t noticed that faux pas
Don’t you all mean The Baba O’Reilly Hitmakers (as I’ve now heard them referred to at least once in every article)? The BO’RH?
I found the first few minutes difficult enough with Townshend’s knackered gait over to his guitar tech to change axes.
It’s definitely a monitoring rather than a drum issue.
Besides, and keener eyes than mine might know better, but the last few live vids I’ve seen show Zak playing a full sized shelled – but, crucially, fully electric – drum kit. Potentially, there’d be very little acoustic noise on that stage.
On looking at the clip again, that’d definitely an electric kit.
Also, I just remembered reading about Townshend’s knee replacements, hence the knackered gait I suppose.
Old man yells at clouds.
He was really struggling through that series of key modulations and getting flustered. There did seem to be a totally out of whack key change right where he lost it, and I don’t remember that from the album track. The drumming is positively tame compared to the original.
They shouldn’t be playing that anyway. Worst song off their best album.
Whilst it’s poor treatment of the drummer, the fallout is limited in practical terms, given the how long the Who have left as a credible live act.
Zak was playing electronic drums with shells to make them look real, and if Toger was having difficulty with his IEMs then all he’d likely hear is plastic-y thuds. Using v-drums in The Who is surely a sackable offence.
Electronic drums can sound well weird, especially in a small space, when you can hear each plastic tap on the cymbals rather than the expected sound.
Couldn’t agree more. What a horrible idea.
Zak is back
Yes indeed, Zak’s Back
https://www.thewho.com/news-flash-who-back-zak/
What an embarrassing mess.
Roger needs to get back on his meds. Doctor Doctor
Interesting the statement is only signed by PT….wonder if Daltrey was hoping to get the drummer from his own band in?
That’s the speculation on the street, I believe…
I never knew the human mouth could contain so much meal.
So what do they teach you at medical school?
So, let me see, the tabloid headline here is…
SACKED ZAC BACK IN WRACKED KAK ACT: FACT
SACK CRACK AS WHACK ZAK BACK.
A load of cobblers, anyhow.
SACK IS WHACK, ZAK IS BACK
PETE PACT WITH WHACK SACKED ZAK AS CODGER ROGER DUBBED TOGER AND DUMB V-DRUM THWAK according to sources in the WHO’s HR department.
Now we know how many a-holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall.
COFFIN-DODGING CODGER ROGER TODGERED BY WHACK ZAK COMEBCK
I heard that Zak has already recorded with an 80s Brit-funk act planning a comeback with a cover of Dave, Dee, Dozy, B &T material sponsored by a leading Brandy producer…
SACKED ZAK BACKED SHAKATAK ZABADAK ARMAGNAC PACT
Rumour is he is opening a Male Grooming Parlour
SACKED ZAK IS BACK WITH MAXIMIMUM R&B BACK SACK AND CRACK
So, to sum up: The Crack that Zak was Sacked by Codger Roger is Whack, cos he’s Back!