Robert Fripp dresses like a building society manager and is as smutty as a navvy. He is King Crimson and he has kept himself busy in The League Of Gentlemen and a series of collaborative projects, most notably with Brian Eno. However, he also ‘guests’ his coruscating guitar on other people’s work, sometimes uncredited. The majority of this extracurricular activity was between 1974 and 1981 when he broke up his band but he has continued to indulge throughout his career. The most famous, of course, is his contribution to Bowie albums but there are loads.
Inspired by sarah’s inclusion of The Roches singing The Hammond Song, I’m putting together a playlist in an attempt to prove to a relative civilian that Fripp is one of the greatest dirty, filthy guitarists of all time.
Any notable examples? I’ve provided a gentle example in Blondie’s Fade Away And Radiate.
Rigid Digit says
Babys On Fire – top notch solo, one of the very best
Rigid Digit says
… in stereo
Diddley Farquar says
Now mono. I removed mine. Yes one of the very best. Outrageous. He makes other guitarists look dull.
Mike_H says
On Eno’s “Another Green World”, Fripp plays on three of the tracks.
Stylistically fairly different on each one but all recognizably him.
On St. Elmo’s Fire you might at first think the recording of the guitar part had been speeded-up. It isn’t, he really is picking that fast with some kind of fuzz tone.
On I’ll Come Running a more languid, lyrical approach with sustain is used.
On Golden Hours it’s fast rhythmic playing of muted notes.
Jaygee says
Gatz says
They were on the Keith Lemon era Through the Keyhole too.
Moose the Mooche says
To think that we’ve all lived through The Keith Lemon Era. Yet somehow we all learned to live, love and laugh again.
The Covid era, the Trump era, cost of living crisis, drought….. these things are nothing. Come on guys, we can do this!!
fitterstoke says
I know it’s obvious: but, along with Fashion, this is surely one of the best examples of “that” guitar approach…
Moose the Mooche says
Fantastic. I also really like his interventions in Up the Hill Backwards, cutting through the strummed acoustics like a… thing that’s noisier than the other things …
fitterstoke says
…and, if I might post a much earlier example…
Tiggerlion says
Great guitar. But. You have to wade through well over five minutes of dreadful music to reach it.
fitterstoke says
Tigger Transparently Trolling, I’m not rising to it…
…er…(damn!)
fitterstoke says
…with David Sylvian…
Tiggerlion says
He did a lot of great work with Sylvian. He invited him to join King Crimson. Imagine what that might have sounded like!
fitterstoke says
I think that would have been something to see, based on the collaborations that we have…although I can understand that Sylvian might not have been willing or able to immerse his own sensibility in the Crimsom id…
fitterstoke says
“Crimsom” – shome mishtake shurely?
Gary says
I know my fellow Sylvian fan our man in Vancouver won’t agree with me at all, but the collaborations with Fripp (as well as the first two Japan albums) are the only Sylvian records I don’t like. I don’t hear Sylvian’s influence in them.
GCU Grey Area says
The live ‘Damage’ is much better than the studio album which came before. Looser. Jean the Birdman in particular, where Fripp just sticks to the arpeggio stuff. Think it might be my favourite Sylvian track, despite all the other lps I’ve bought after your mentions of him on this site.
Arthur Cowslip says
Great idea for a thread. Many times I’ve been impressed with a guitar part on something, then looked it up to realise it’s Mr Fripp. I’ll be watching this thread for ones that might have passed me by.
moseleymoles says
fitterstoke says
Can I hear the influence of Eno…
Tiggerlion says
Does he get royalties for this?
fitterstoke says
You’d hope so…he had control over his business arrangements by then, I think?
Colin H says
Robert added to several Judy Dyble recordings from 2006 onwards. Here is one, with Bob obvious in the second half. Ian MacDonald from Crimso also there on sax/flute.
fitterstoke says
What did you post, Colin? Unavailable thing happening here…
Colin H says
‘Harpsong’ from ‘Talking With Strangers.
fitterstoke says
Tapadh leat!
fitterstoke says
Don’t know if this counts, since Fripp was also the producer (not just guest guitarist):
Tiggerlion says
That album, along with Peter Gabriel’s second and Fripp’s own Exposure are meant to be part of a trilogy. If only it had been released in 1977/8.
fitterstoke says
Yebbut. I can see from Fripp’s standpoint (and his approach to his work at the time) that they might form a trilogy of sorts. But apart from Fripp himself, I don’t feel they have much in common – I should say that I enjoy all three. The Daryl Hall album is a hidden gem…
Tiggerlion says
And let’s big up Bargepole’s Night In on the recent Exposure reissue.
fitterstoke says
Exposure is the best of the three in my view…still phenomenal.
PG2 comes third of the perfect pair in my scheme…
fitterstoke says
On the basis that Fripp can’t “guest” on his own album, we better have the PG2 version of Exposure…
Bargepole says
😉
fitterstoke says
I was THIS close to buying the big box, thanks to Bargey and fatima…nearly dusted my wallet off: but I already had the 2CD reissue, so I bought Washington Square Church and tried to put it out of my mind…
fitterstoke says
Tiggerlion says
I prefer No Self Control with Collins’s cymbal-less kit and the blessed Kate’s backing vocals.
fitterstoke says
Fair enough – my choice was made on the basis of Fripp’s guitar, rather than the drummer/backing vocals. What you asked for, wasn’t it? 🙃
Tiggerlion says
Yes…erm…but the guitar is great on No Self Control, adding to the deranged psychosis.
fitterstoke says
Can’t deny it, wouldn’t want to…
moseleymoles says
I’ve just played Gabriel 1 and Fripp is listed on that, though he has categorically stated he didn’t play on Solsbury Hill.
fitterstoke says
Diddley Farquar says
I got Exposure secondhand on vinyl recently. I played it a few times. There’s a few good things on it I guess. I think I’m currently in the position that his best work is contributions to other peoples’ records.
GCU Grey Area says
‘Minor Man’ from the League of Gentlemen. Is the best track on the lp. His guitar snarls away through it, with Barry Andrews’ keyboards at the threatening end of the rinky-dink spectrum he employed. I saw them live, and can’t remember if Sarah Lee did the vocals that Danielle Dax? does on the record. I do remember that their sound was the best of any band who played at DIHE Weymouth, and also the loudest.
Moose the Mooche says
My mate had a rinkydink Spectrum… He was well pissed off, he’d asked Santa for a Commodore.
Tiggerlion says
This track has a powerful emotional effect on me these days….
Talking Heads – I Zimbra
Geoffbs7 says
Can someone explain all of the above to me please.
I’m not a guitarist but I do like some guitar playing.
What I don’t understand (or care for) is all that kind of squally, disjointed, distorted guitar playing – and how you can tell whether it’s any good or not.
I would have thought that anyone with the right equipment could make the same sounds.
For reference – the kind of guitar playing I like is epitomised by Reggie Young.
Tiggerlion says
Fripp is an unusual guitar player. He is naturally left-handed but plays right. He isn’t influenced by The Blues, more avant garde Jazz and Classical. He claims to be tone deaf and packing in a sense of rhythm. Much of what he does is noise and he exploits equipment with enthusiasm. However, he is a strong picker, crosspicking being his specialty. He is at his best alternate picking, crosspicking with motifs employing whole-tone of diminished pitch structures and sixteenth-note patterns for long stretches in a form called moto perpetuo*.
I’m fascinated by how different he is in different settings. I don’t care for King Crimson much but when he turns up on other people’s records he invariably floors me because he adds such a level of excitement, it thrills me. Yes, he needs the equipment but he brings the imagination. Scratch the surface of the noise and you will reveal great skill.
Reggie Young was an extremely skilful player too. I find him safe when making an album for himself, much more interesting when playing with The Swampers for someone else.
*I’m not a guitarist and I cribbed this off the internet.
retropath2 says
It seems he and his wife rolled up to Cropredy this year, both joining Trevor Horn’s band on stage. Dare say a few of this gang were there. Any good @skirky ?
Skirky says
Ah, I was only a day tripper on the Saturday, and so am unable to comment. You know what these people with their phones are like though – we’ll know soon enough, I expect.
fitterstoke says
See what you think of this. Mr Fripp needs to work on his miming skills (I imagine it’s not been routinely required over the years) but the recorded guitar does the job, IMHO…
Tiggerlion says
He’s a lot more comfortable sitting down.
fitterstoke says
I know how he feels…ooh, me back…ooh, me hip…
Vincent says
Is there a compilation of all his special guest cameos? He must be one of the best at this game.
fitterstoke says
Needs a Spotify playlist, if one doesn’t exist already…
Tiggerlion says
Let’s read the OK again, and I quote: “I’m putting together a playlist…”
*rolls eyes*
😁
fitterstoke says
OK…doesn’t state Spotify, might have been your own personal DMP playlist, who can say, can’t be making assumptions, etc, etc….
(It’s a fair cop).
Tiggerlion says
My streamer of preference is Tidal.
Vincent says
I had a late night.
moseleymoles says
I’ve looked and neither Vista or Windows 95 are on. Spotify. That Gates is a Bugger over the publishing I understand.
fitterstoke says
Nearly forgot this one…full on Crimson type guitar in the final minute
Tiggerlion says
That’s more like it! It goes on the list.
fatima Xberg says
It’s Sunday, so here’s the Posh Pop Three combo:
fitterstoke says
Beat you to it, fatima…
fatima Xberg says
Well, here’s another pop one: Fripp finds a way-wah pedal in his shed and brings it along when Peter Hammill records his attempt at a happy pop single:
fitterstoke says
Please can you tell me what it was, fatima? I’m getting the black screen of unavailable doom – and you’ve teased me by mentioning Hammill…
fatima Xberg says
It’s »Sunshine« from the »Fool’s Mate« album.
(The video link BTW is from Universal’s official Peter Hammill YouTube channel…)
fitterstoke says
Very good, thanks…
fitterstoke says
A very specific type of guitar synth sound…
sarah says
Goodness, I don’t think I’ve ever inspired anyone before – thanks, Tiggerlion.
Here’s a later example of Mr Fripp in action.
fitterstoke says
Woof! That’s a cracker!
Tiggerlion says
Indeed it is! Thanks sarah.
fentonsteve says
Meanwhile, Mrs Fripp was special guesting on The Archers this evening.
I would tell you what she was like, but Mrs F turned it off just as it started. ‘Tis on Sounds, I expect.
hubert rawlinson says
It appears Mr Fripp turned up at Cropredy on Thursday to play with the Trevor Horne Band.
NigelT says
Yes, they were there and it was a fun surprise. Trevor Horne said that he’d seen them do this online and invited them down to do it live.
Twang says
Fripp is someone I admire and respect but don’t love. There’s something stiff and somewhat calculated about his playing which doesn’t do it for me. He is a good writer on guitar playing too and he talks at length about the challenge of uniting the emotionally steaming but somewhat trapped within his sphere rock player with over cerebral jazz players but I’m not sure he’s cracked it either. It doesn’t help that many of his collaborators are of only passing interest to me and there seems to be a lot of monotonous synth pad stuff going on with 2 note vocal melodies and RF squalling away over the top.
I think I much prefer him with KC where the musical environment is much more interesting and the other soloists egg him on.
Here’s a great guitar solo for when you need a bit of relief.
fitterstoke says
@Twang – I think some of his best work is as a guest “wild card” rather than as a collaborator, eg, the Bowie tracks, the Porcupine Tree track above. But, on balance, I agree that his best work is with KC and I suppose that’s not really surprising.
Tiggerlion says
Yes. For a man whose style owes more to jazz than most of his peers, he plans extremely carefully & is very disciplined. In fact, didn’t he want to call one of his bands Discipline? He certainly doesn’t feel very spontaneous.
I liked Bill Bruford’s anecdote about his passive-aggressive nature as the leader of King Crimson. Recording wasn’t going well. He stared at his favourite spot a couple of metres in front of him to the right, saying nothing. Some suggestions were thrown his way. He stared harder & more intently, saying nothing. More solutions were offered. He left the studio without a word.
Working for others, given a specific brief, he could be bloody marvellous (Eno probably the master at getting the best out of him).
fitterstoke says
Discipline – the 1981 KC were actually called Discipline for a gig or two, before recognising that they were, in fact, King Crimson.
Bruford – I think that anecdote concerns the recording of Red. Fripp had consciously decided to “withhold the passing of his opinion” – it was the beginning of his JG Bennett phase and his personality had started to dismantle: he felt he had no right to express an opinion. Since he was the effective bandleader, this was not a decision without consequence…
Jaygee says
@fitterstoke
Can confirm that as I was at one of those shows – at Manchester Poly. Must have been Feb or March 81. I left the UK never to return about three months later
fitterstoke says
Colour me green with envy…
…on reflection I hope it wasn’t a case of post hoc ergo propter hoc…
Jaygee says
Never quite sure whether this means I can say I saw King Crimson or not. (I always do though)
Jaygee says
@fitterstoke
Saw some terrific gigs that Spring – KC/Discipline, Spirit, Kraftwerk, Bruce 2 x. Had also seen RF fronting the LOG at the Factory/Russell Club the previous year
Twang says
I don’t hear much improvisation. But you’re right, really disciplined execution of really complex stuff. I imagine something like his work on “Heroes” was more spontaneous.
Moose the Mooche says
On Beauty & the Beast I think he just literally turned up and plugged in – Eno gave him no clue about what to expect, not even a key.
Twang says
Eno songs have a key? They just go mmmmmmm ping don’t they?
fitterstoke says
Ah: but Beauty and the Beast is a Bowie song, off ‘Heroes’…
…and furthermore, here’s an Eno song with both a key (C?) and a Fripp solo…
pencilsqueezer says
Thats a bit harsh he has one that goes mmmmmmm pong as well.
fitterstoke says
That would be Neroli, I expect…
Twang says
I was being harsh, some have bleeping too.
fitterstoke says
Incorrigible…
GCU Grey Area says
I think the degree of improv varies on the band line-up. The two-guitar KC with Belew and Fripp often feature Fripp doing complex picking and Belew doing the squalling. The Discipline line-up did Sartori in Tangier from Beat live with Belew on drums. Fripp’s Roland guitar synth plays a long solo throughout the song, and the versions I’ve heard vary hugely. Some motifs are common. I like KC a lot, but the only two I love are Discipline and its successor Beat.
fitterstoke says
This might interest you, Twang – not a great recording, I’m afraid…
https://youtu.be/Y3FUcSHeJJg
Edit: no idea why it’s only showing the address, not the video…
fitterstoke says
I know this is not strictly within the parameters of the OP (sorry Tigger…) but I’ve just found this and had to share it.
Robble77 says
Possibly not quite coruscating..
Tiggerlion says
Here is the Tidal Playlist:
https://listen.tidal.com/playlist/14bf74d8-029f-4406-b801-16a5c997fd64
I’ll put together a Spotify one later
fitterstoke says
Huzzah! Thanks, Tiggs…
pencilsqueezer says
Twang will be disappointed that none of them go mmmmmmm ping.
Tiggerlion says
I was sorely tempted to include a twenty minute one just to make him happy.
Twang says
Gutted!
fitterstoke says
Another hamper for Tiggerlion! Who would have predicted that, with a thread about Mr Fripp?