I can’t imagine her on Strictly. Celebrity might have her again but she needs to steel herself for all the trials. The public will be merciless. Would she enhance viewing figures? I’m not sure.
This case has been an object lesson why I have never employed an agent or publicist.
On a more serious note, RV will probably find work as the Evil Queen in panto for a couple of years, but really her “brand” (aargh!) is hopelessly Donald Ducked. Wonder how long it will be before Jamie V – fast nearing the end of his career and now saddled with UKĀ£3,000,000 in legal fees – jettisons her.
As Kitty Muggeridge memorably said of David Frost she “rose without trace” and sink without trace she duly will, too
The object lesson I learnt is never be an agent or publicist. Vardy blamed Caroline Watt but I think she was following the wishes of the client. As did the judge.
Interestingly, Rebekah met Jamie when she was a publicist herself, for a nightclub.
There is a further object lesson – donāt leak your āfriendāsā private info to the red-tops, then lie about it later, sue for libel when you know the contested allegation was substantially correct, then lie again in courtā¦
There is that. It makes you think that she is either psychotic or has a vanishingly small IQ.
Coleen posted “it’s……..Rebekah Vardy’s account” and an earlier hearing decided Coleen had to prove that Rebekah Vardy, herself, was responsible for the leaks not just people with access to her account. That bar seemed excessively high until Vardy got on the witness stand and opened her trout-lipped mouth.
David Sherbourne, Coleen’s barrister, disproved Vardy’s evidence simply by quoting her WhatsApp messages. “Do you leak stories to the press?” ” No. ” ” Then, what does your message ‘leak it’ mean?”
This was amusing.
āI never believed it should have gone to court at such expense ⦠when the money could have been far better spent helping othersāā¦. Damn all that money earmarked for The Save The Children Fund has had to go on legal fees.
She goes on to say she ābears Ms Vardy no ill willā. Gimme a break.
After a few years of public monstering, RV will probably kill herself and we’ll all be talking very ponderously about the price of fame and lessons need to be learned and all that shite. These people are very fucked up indeed, I don’t think we should forget that.
I was being facetious, seeing that this is the hashtag of choice before, during and after the ritual evisceration of every celeb-du-jour on social meejah.
The only harm this woman has done is to herself. You could say that she’s taking part in devaluing the culture but she might well quote the words of Mr William Joel esq. on the subject of starting fires.
Imagine being married to a multi millionaire footballer like Jamie Vardy and feeling the best thing you can do with your time is try and stitch up another famous footballer’s wife and then when you’re found out drag it to this conclusion. I’m no fan of the Rooney’s dysfunctional marriage and cannot understand Colleen staying with serial adulterer multi millionaire Wayne but she’s played a blinder with a no lose hand here. Was it worth it? Absolutely to all the wrong people who cashed and will cash in…
Perhaps the Rooneys marriage is as functional as they want it to be.
He can have his extramarital flings and can afford to have a wife with expensive tastes, she has unlimited credit for shopping and no questions get asked in either direction.
If neither one cares what the press dig up about the other, after a while the press will do their digging elsewhere.
As some wag on Twitter quipped a few weeks back ā without the budgets to drive the legal actions, this is essentially 2 fish wives slagging each other over the fence & pushing dog shit through each othersā letter boxesā.
Hard to disagree.
āPerhaps, to paraphrase and homage her own immortal words about pigeons, that rare but apparently possible phenomenon of shitting in your own hair can now be known as The Vardy effect.ā
As a side comment, there’s a clip on YouTube with 100 Jamie Vardy goals which is fun to watch. Left wing, right wing, through the middle, head, either foot, bundle in the box, 60yd screamer… they’re all there.
Here’s Wayne Rooney’s for Everton, pre and post Man U. I was there for his first against Arsenal and his later 60 yarder against West Ham. The thing that struck me was the way he always seemed to keep the ball down. Very few tap-ins.
It’s more than tabloid fodder. This is possibly the most catastrophic libel case since Oscar Wilde sued the Marquees of Queensberry, an act of folly that bankrupted Wilde and directly led him to being incarcerated for two years with hard labour. After his release, he spent three years impoverished and in exile in France. He died of meningitis, possibly related to an ear injury he sustained in jail.
Rebekah Vardy has some way to go to match that but there’s only one thing in this world worse than being talked about…
PS Tiggs, Oz’s biggest mistake was not realising that… [re-reads your post, to be double-sure]… the Marquees of Queensbury was… [wait for it, here it comes, hold onto something solid]…a really…in tents…guy!!!1!! Geddit?? Marquees?? In tents???
ā2 thickosā, possibly – but one of them clearly thicker than the other. Otherwise, why take out a libel suit against someone who you know was telling the truth? Why set yourself up to fail in public?
Perhaps she believes, and this wouldn’t be completely unreasonable, that if you get an expensive enough lawyer you can go to court and get pretty much any result you want.
Probably comes from watching too much telly. Perry Mason would have sorted this shit out in 55 minutes including ad breaks.
Yes but all Perry had to do to crack a case was say “you’re lying aren’t you?” to whoever was on the stand 50 minutes into the show.
One blubbering confession from guilty party, a quick chucklesome joke with his PA and PI (“boy, you certainly burned down that arsonist’s life for the next 25 years!”) and the end credits were ready to roll.
My brother knows one of RVās ex-husbands. Not a lot of nice things to say. Jamie Vardy is the most detestable footballers Iāve seen at Oakwell in a long, long time, so itās nice to see he has found his perfect soulmate.
This.
The list of players capable of making John Terry seem like Keanu Reeves in the āgreat human beingā stakes is pretty short, but Vardyās on it.
Well, for starters, when he played away matches for Stocksbridge, wearing his ankle tag, he had to be subbed at half-time so that he could get home in time for his curfew.
Heās the only player Iāve seen at Oakwell who has wound me up enough to want to run on and punch him, and Iāve never hit anybody in my life. He is one of those players who will go out of his way to celebrate in front of the opposing fans, goading them. I donāt understand why players running up to their own fans get booked for āinciting the crowdā and yet deliberately running up to and goading the opposition fans with hand gestures and that cuppy ear thing he does is perfectly allowable.
Allegedly it’s because they give him so much abuse he scores goals then winds them up. Quite funny to the unaligned observer. But I can imagine how irritating it is.
From what I’ve heard, he turned his life around after his first child was born and joining Leicester. He used to turn up to training still drunk from the night before but gave up drinking after he was subject to a quiet word. His career arc is remarkable.
He’s involved in a number of charities, which are all about disadvantaged children getting a better start. My bet is that they are close to his heart.
Donāt get me wrong, there are players who have made gestures to the home fans at Oakwell that I have no problem with. Nathan Blakeās shutting up of the racism in the bad old days for starters, or Paul Stancliffeās response after Sheffield United scored a 120th minute winner. But Vardy wasnāt getting any abuse until he did what he did, repeatedly, although it was just typical of a graceless club on the pitch, in the stands and in the boardroom. Leicester have since become my least liked club in the country (yes, even more than Dirty Leeds), and my timing was impeccable, with them winning the league and cup within a few years!
They are responsible for the only shock in 30 years of the Premier League.
Did you know that only two man-made things on the Earth are visible from the Moon?
(1) The Chinese Wall.
(2) The egg on the faces of Tottenham, Arsenal, Man. Utd. etc. when Leicester won the Premier League in 2015-16. It’s still there.
On Vardy… one of the very last Championship games I saw happened to involve Leicester City, about 10/12 years ago, and he was brilliant.
Said at the time, although I didn’t know him from a box of frogs, “F*** Rooney, put that guy in the World/Euro Cup side.”
They didn’t and – spoiler alert – Rooney was complete shite for the 4th or 5th tournament running.
According to the Grauniad he apologized profusely and expressed regret. Unpleasant but everyone seems to have moved on. I’m not sure there’s any suggestion of similar behaviour since is there?
Well I may be old fashioned but I tend towards the old āleopards & spotsā angle, & also that itās fair to judge people by how they behave towards those who canāt serve them in any way.
Vardy pleaded ignorance as a defence & outlined how upset heād been when he realised how it must look.
Thatās horseshit IMO, just the same as folk who claim they only ādid itā because they were drunk. Usually more the case that the booze reveals their character & removed inhibition rather than creates the flaws in itself.
I reckon heās a wrong āun which is why he & his lovely lady wife are simpatico.
This.
The “I was drunk” defence is repeatedly trotted out in the courts, seemingly to no avail, as it cuts no ice at all with magistrates, judges and juries these days.
I don’t consider it valid mitigation anywhere else either, for letting out one’s inner racist/misogynist/thug/c*nt.
How ironic that Jamie Vardy tried to copyright the phrase ‘Chat shit, get banged.’ If only Rebekah would have listened to his wise words before deciding to go through with this disastrous court case.
My last surgery was built on the land owned and occupied by a Reg Vardy garage. He refused the bigger bid by MCDonalds. Other than that, and the Christian fundamentalism of the family patriarch, I know nothing about them. I havenāt followed football since Brighton &Hove Albion played at the Goldstone Ground.
Something I found deeply confusing about the case is that from all the photos I saw, I literally could not tell the difference between Rebekah Vardy and Colleen Rooney.
I’ve pondered this for nearly a full day and I’m still not sure what it means.
I have to say I am really impressed with the judge whose damn good sense shines through. There is no pulling the wool over her eyes. Similarly, the one whose deliberation and verdict was televised in the case of the young man who killed his grandfather. She was extremely thorough and extraordinarily measured given the circumstances of the case.
It’s a quotation from the thoroughly disreputable, and in many ways absolutely awful, Trippin’ in Court from the first Cheech and Chong album (the Dave’s Not Here Hitmakers). The Peepee in question belongs to one Lesley Horwinkel, telling you at a glance that this is a level of humour that makes mine look like Noel Coward.
More serious point in response to I have to say I am really impressed with the judge whose damn good sense shines through. There is no pulling the wool over her eyes. Similarly, the one whose deliberation and verdict was televised in the case of the young man who killed his grandfather. She was extremely thorough and extraordinarily measured given the circumstances of the case.
There was a terrific piece in the Absurder yesterday about the televising of courts. I’ve always been against it but this guy’s thesis is that court proceedings are routinely misreported by lazy or malevolent journalists, and the only realistic antidote to this is full exposure of what goes on. It’s changed my mind – which was pretty entrenched – about this very big issue.
Judge Sarah Munro certainly increased my confidence in the justice system.
I watched Derek Chauvin’s trial with fascination. The judge said some very odd things. Maybe, I’m not tuned to American phraseology. Some of the defence expert witnesses struck me as professional opportunists. Nevertheless, the right result was achieved in the end.
I’m all for televising court proceedings with the caveat of protecting vulnerable witnesses.
It’s really odd that the article above, while arguing for cameras in courtrooms, cites the O.J Simpson case. An instance in which the presence of cameras skewed proceedings enormously, transformed the trial into a three ring circus, and quite probably saw a murderer walk free.
I would personally be cautious about introducing cameras in all but the most limited circumstances.
His argument is a product of desperation. If we’re going to have this constant “enemies of the people” narrative about the justice system, and we are, perhaps it’s the only possible corrective.
If his goal is accurate reporting, less culture war bollocks and greater respect for the institutions of law, he’ll find that TV cameras will only worsen all of those issues, as they have done in numerous US court cases.
Our courts are functioning pretty well. Our public discourse, on the other hand, is utterly fucked. The idea that greater exposure of the former to the latter will improve things is highly dubious.
I remember the OJ trial. It was a major media event from the day of the murders. The sedate chase along the highway was watched by millions across the globe.
The trial took place months later. Putting together a jury took an age. The major influence on its make up was the shift from Santa Monica to downtown Los Angeles for safety reasons. As a result, Afro-Americans were in a majority. The jury were unable to view the media coverage, much easier to achieve in 1995.
Once the verdict was in, the public reaction, having watched the same TV programmes, was split along racial lines. White people largely felt it had been a fix and Black people mostly agreed with the Not Guilty outcome.
I doubt the screening of the trial itself affected the outcome. The media circus around it may well have polarised public opinion. OJ’s lawyers did a great job of casting doubt on the evidence. It helped them that a prominent white investigator used racist language regularly.
Trials are meant to be conducted in public. I can’t really see any objection to bringing the justice system into the 21st Century with the sensible use of TV cameras.
The defence in the OJ trial used the media coverage to amp up racial tensions around the trial and its outcome. It’s very difficult to argue that the trial (or indeed wider society) benefited from media coverage.
More recently, we’ve seen the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial being pulled to bits by the internet (including having his integrity questioned by virtue of his ring tone), and Amber Heard, undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, undergoing a live online character assassination during her recent court case. Those are just two examples from many. Neither judges or witnesses (or indeed claimants/defendants) benefit from being dragged down into the bearpit of online discourse, which is what will inevitably happen where trials are televised. Trial by meme.
Trials are indeed meant to be conducted in public, for very good reason. The logic behind those reasons does not automatically extend to televising them, which is why they largely haven’t been in this country to date.
The Rittenhouse trial was politically loaded from the start. The judge may well have been targeted even without TV cameras. Amber Heard was going to be found out sooner or later.
Funnily enough, I see televising trials as a way of refuting the haterz. Online discourse is a bearpit anyway. Set that up against the largely measured discourse in a court and it looks stupid. Cameras are here to stay in America. Less so in this country. I think we are going to see more deliberations on our news bulletins.
Without wishing to get self-reflexive/meta (ooh, go on then), Vardy was, reportedly, paying Ā£10,000 a day for her legal team. Surely any legal team with even a cursory knowledge of the law wouldāve strongly encouraged her (if not outright refused to take the case) to drop it before it came to court. My knowledge of the law is based solely on having once dated a lawyer, where I overheard some long words: principally in Latin. Even I thought it stank of insanity to insist on going to court.
Iām sure there are some people from the legal profession on here. What does it do for your reputation if you coin in ten grand a day for a case you know you have zero chance of winning? Thatās not to denigrate lawyers; Iām genuinely curious.
I could have been a Judge, Moose, but I never had the Latin. Donāt get me wrong: I was a pretentious/condescending knob – and Iād still never jail Katie Price – but I never had the Latin*
Iām sure she would, Jaygee, but if, as a legal firm, your ten-grand-a-day professional reputation relies on winning cases/providing sound legal advice/stopping your client losing Ā£3 million, is is not a Pyrrhic victory? Surely other high-profile clients would think youāre a bitā¦shit?
Only those prospective clients who think an impossible case can be won if you just pay your lawyers enough. For sensible clients, your reputation would be unaffected.
Given that it is widely accepted that RV is an arrogant fool
who refused her opponentās offer to settle out of court, any
law firm who took the case was effectively on a hiding to
nothing.
The history of the libel courts in the UK is littered with
stories of entitled idiots like Vardy.
I haven’t followed this case in any detail, but I had a quick Google to see who Vardy used. He’s a very well established and fairly well known lawyer with a long track record of success over a quarter of a century.
Obviously, better for one’s rep to win cases than to lose them, but I wouldn’t imagine that this result will dent him to any great extent. In fact, I would imagine the (fairly reasonable) assumption will be that he gave good advice, which went ignored.
As others have said above, all a lawyer can do is advise their client. You would be surprised at how often clients do not take some or all of that advice, often for very good reasons.
I’ve done jury service once, on one case I was taken off as when the witness got in the stand he looked across at the jury saw me and waved. As I saw him getting in I explained to the clerk that I knew the witness, I had to be dismissed the judge said it was obvious the witness knew me. I found out the next day that another juror asked to be removed after as he was deaf and hadn’t heard a word said.
The other case was so badly presented by the police and prosecution that we spent more time out of the court than in it. The judge eventually stopped it, apologised to us for having our time wasted and said he would write a strong letter to the Chief Constable.
Did jury service in Hong Kong on a murder trial (still then a capital offense although rarely used) in the mid-90s.
The bare bones of the case were that the two kids in the dock were part of a triad gang that had become embroiled in a fight that resulted in a rival gang member’s death.
The fact that the kids were underage when the murder took place and were being charged under joint endeavor (they obviously hadn’t ran away fast enough) made the case a very contentious one at the time.
The trial only lasted for four days. As with HR above, most of this time was spent in the jury room while the defense and prosecution discussed legal fine points with the beak.
Eventually, the defense and prosecution compromised on a manslaughter charge to which the kids entered guilty pleas.
Juries in HK have only seven (rather than 12 members) of which I was the only Westerner.
I’m sure you can guess who got elected foreman when the time came to read out the guilty verdicts to a court full of grieving family members and very aggrevied looking fellow triad members
I was called for jury service many years ago in West Wales, but asked to be excused when I discovered that I knew the defendant. I was excused.
A long time later I was again called for jury service in a fraud trial. It was very obvious as the case progressed that the two defendants were guilty and they eventually changed their plea to guilty as the evidence against them mounted. I got a bollocking from the judge on the second day when he noticed I was nodding off during a long piece of technical evidence.
I was a miscreant myself, as regards the smoking and cultivation of weed and the taking of certain other illegal recreational substances.
The young woman in the Welsh court case had stabbed and killed her abusive husband (with a breadknife) and hidden his body in the cupboard under her stairs. She was initially charged with murder, but that charge was dropped mid-trial and eventually she pleaded guilty to failing to report the death and hiding the corpse. She was put on probation.
Since we are here, talking about the Law – there’s something quite interesting I learn-ed ( ! ) only recently.
When a wrinkled-up old judge interrupts proceedings by saying something like “Er…who is…(reads from notes over pince-nez glasses) ‘Shakin’ Stevens’?” – this is always jumped on by the tabloids as evidence of how out of touch judges are.
It’s probable that the QC knows very well who Shakin’ Stevens is. He makes the interjection so that the court can officially record that he is a famous rock & roll singer. This helps someone in 100 years’ time understand what’s happening when Shaky’s fame has faded.
I used to take the Clapham omnibus daily, Lambeth, via embankment, to the aforesaid junction. Except I got off at Battersea. (And on again, in the mornings.)
This is an interesting and well written article. In the end, Rebekah Vardy brought the case because she was deluded, either about her own responsibility for the leaks or the solidity of her case, the burden of proof resting on Coleen Rooney’s tiny shoulders.
She’s now gone on something called Talk TV to bemoan the unfairness of the UK judicial system and whinge about how her “ordeal” has left her with PTSD.
She keeps digging herself in it at this rate, how long will it be someone like Simon Cowell gets her into the studio to record a cover version of Bernard Cribbins’ Hole in the Ground.
Sheād throw the glass slipper into the sea and deny everything – even though all the nice ladies and gentlemen and all the boys and girls all SAW her do it. BOOOO!
I had two matrons at school. One was the foxy young assistant, who used to slip me the odd sly slice of toast, and always saved the best orange segments for yours truly at half time. Happy days.
Quick answer: no.
Alternative quick answer: who?
….not even a new winter coat and shoes for the husband
I nearly posted the song in the OP but its subject matter is far too serious.
Of course, I apologise for bringing something as trivial as the Falklands War into this discussion….
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@Moose-the-Mooche
You forgot the bicycle kick on the boy’s birthday
….diving in the six-yard box when we could be diving for pearls
“Vardy wasn’t Stallin’ when he scissor-kicked the ball in”
….and let Rebekah rot in prison reading George Orwell
Legally and reputationally – no.
Commercially – very probably.
They’ll both get a TV series and a couple of books out of it. After all, what else do these people do?
Coleen is already involved in a documentary about the case.
Rebekah has already appeared on I’m A Celebrity and Dancing On Ice.
Yebbut, Coleen wonā¦what would the Vardy documentary look like?
āRebekah has already appeared on Iām A Celebrity and Dancing On Ice.ā – yebbut, not since the verdictā¦
I can’t imagine her on Strictly. Celebrity might have her again but she needs to steel herself for all the trials. The public will be merciless. Would she enhance viewing figures? I’m not sure.
Maybe: alternatively she might end up on the D-list, scrabbling for BB , etcā¦
ā¦or stopping strangers in the street to tell them how she was wrongedā¦It is an ancient Bekka and she stoppeth one of threeā¦
This case has been an object lesson why I have never employed an agent or publicist.
On a more serious note, RV will probably find work as the Evil Queen in panto for a couple of years, but really her “brand” (aargh!) is hopelessly Donald Ducked. Wonder how long it will be before Jamie V – fast nearing the end of his career and now saddled with UKĀ£3,000,000 in legal fees – jettisons her.
As Kitty Muggeridge memorably said of David Frost she “rose without trace” and sink without trace she duly will, too
The object lesson I learnt is never be an agent or publicist. Vardy blamed Caroline Watt but I think she was following the wishes of the client. As did the judge.
Interestingly, Rebekah met Jamie when she was a publicist herself, for a nightclub.
There is a further object lesson – donāt leak your āfriendāsā private info to the red-tops, then lie about it later, sue for libel when you know the contested allegation was substantially correct, then lie again in courtā¦
As you point out in the OP tags, Tiggs – hubris.
There is that. It makes you think that she is either psychotic or has a vanishingly small IQ.
Coleen posted “it’s……..Rebekah Vardy’s account” and an earlier hearing decided Coleen had to prove that Rebekah Vardy, herself, was responsible for the leaks not just people with access to her account. That bar seemed excessively high until Vardy got on the witness stand and opened her trout-lipped mouth.
Can she be done for perjury? Might go to jail for that
No. The judge stopped just short of calling her a liar.
There was one priceless exchange though
RV: “If I’m being honest…”
Judge: “I sincerely hope you are being honest, Mrs. Vardy, you’re giving evidence in the High Court”
She stopped short out of politeness.
David Sherbourne, Coleen’s barrister, disproved Vardy’s evidence simply by quoting her WhatsApp messages. “Do you leak stories to the press?” ” No. ” ” Then, what does your message ‘leak it’ mean?”
This was amusing.
āI never believed it should have gone to court at such expense ⦠when the money could have been far better spent helping othersāā¦. Damn all that money earmarked for The Save The Children Fund has had to go on legal fees.
She goes on to say she ābears Ms Vardy no ill willā. Gimme a break.
After a few years of public monstering, RV will probably kill herself and we’ll all be talking very ponderously about the price of fame and lessons need to be learned and all that shite. These people are very fucked up indeed, I don’t think we should forget that.
#BeKind
Well yeah, why not?
Obviously I’m a great ambassador for this (see this thread and all the other ones I’m on)
I was being facetious, seeing that this is the hashtag of choice before, during and after the ritual evisceration of every celeb-du-jour on social meejah.
The only harm this woman has done is to herself. You could say that she’s taking part in devaluing the culture but she might well quote the words of Mr William Joel esq. on the subject of starting fires.
Imagine being married to a multi millionaire footballer like Jamie Vardy and feeling the best thing you can do with your time is try and stitch up another famous footballer’s wife and then when you’re found out drag it to this conclusion. I’m no fan of the Rooney’s dysfunctional marriage and cannot understand Colleen staying with serial adulterer multi millionaire Wayne but she’s played a blinder with a no lose hand here. Was it worth it? Absolutely to all the wrong people who cashed and will cash in…
Perhaps the Rooneys marriage is as functional as they want it to be.
He can have his extramarital flings and can afford to have a wife with expensive tastes, she has unlimited credit for shopping and no questions get asked in either direction.
If neither one cares what the press dig up about the other, after a while the press will do their digging elsewhere.
Digging it round when it ought to be square…
…. sorry, wrong thread
As some wag on Twitter quipped a few weeks back ā without the budgets to drive the legal actions, this is essentially 2 fish wives slagging each other over the fence & pushing dog shit through each othersā letter boxesā.
Hard to disagree.
On the other hand, if they were from a different class they wouldn’t be “WAGs”, they’d be “socialites”.
Rebekah did liken arguing with Coleen to arguing with a pigeon. It’s pointless because it still shits on your head.
I think Coleen has played a blinder. She ain’t no fish wife.
Well, she’s no Lilian Bilocca that’s for sure.
Nor are the vast majority of fish wives, or any kind of wives for that matter.
Quote from this morningās Guardian website:
āPerhaps, to paraphrase and homage her own immortal words about pigeons, that rare but apparently possible phenomenon of shitting in your own hair can now be known as The Vardy effect.ā
As a side comment, there’s a clip on YouTube with 100 Jamie Vardy goals which is fun to watch. Left wing, right wing, through the middle, head, either foot, bundle in the box, 60yd screamer… they’re all there.
Here’s Wayne Rooney’s for Everton, pre and post Man U. I was there for his first against Arsenal and his later 60 yarder against West Ham. The thing that struck me was the way he always seemed to keep the ball down. Very few tap-ins.
Iāve no feckinā idea what all this is about. Just seen a pic of the Leicester Stallion so I presume itās about him. No further interest from me.
Twang and I digress. This is not about the Leicester Stallion. It’s about his wife.
Even less interest Tiggs, Iām surprised at you delving into tabloid fodder.
It’s more than tabloid fodder. This is possibly the most catastrophic libel case since Oscar Wilde sued the Marquees of Queensberry, an act of folly that bankrupted Wilde and directly led him to being incarcerated for two years with hard labour. After his release, he spent three years impoverished and in exile in France. He died of meningitis, possibly related to an ear injury he sustained in jail.
Rebekah Vardy has some way to go to match that but there’s only one thing in this world worse than being talked about…
…and that’s being Barbara Streisand, I believe?
Edit: Barbra, possibly? In case her lawyers are reading this.
PS Tiggs, Oz’s biggest mistake was not realising that… [re-reads your post, to be double-sure]… the Marquees of Queensbury was… [wait for it, here it comes, hold onto something solid]…a really…in tents…guy!!!1!! Geddit?? Marquees?? In tents???
No?!!!
Oh fck off then, ya red-nosed bastud.
Another obeject lesson.
Stay off social media, kids!
Unless, of course, you’re Wayne Rooney in which case InstaGran is OK
Absolutely worth it. To see 2 thickos scrapping it out in public over something completely inconsequential wasting millions in the process (for Vardy)
ā2 thickosā, possibly – but one of them clearly thicker than the other. Otherwise, why take out a libel suit against someone who you know was telling the truth? Why set yourself up to fail in public?
Perhaps she believes, and this wouldn’t be completely unreasonable, that if you get an expensive enough lawyer you can go to court and get pretty much any result you want.
Probably comes from watching too much telly. Perry Mason would have sorted this shit out in 55 minutes including ad breaks.
Yes but all Perry had to do to crack a case was say “you’re lying aren’t you?” to whoever was on the stand 50 minutes into the show.
One blubbering confession from guilty party, a quick chucklesome joke with his PA and PI (“boy, you certainly burned down that arsonist’s life for the next 25 years!”) and the end credits were ready to roll.
From what I understand, RV was such a crap witness that Perry would have complained about having nothin’ to work with.
My recollection is that Perry Mason et al were on the side of the good guys, you know, justice and truth.
You’re thinking of Perry Como.
Jonathan Aitken would agree, I’m sure.
My brother knows one of RVās ex-husbands. Not a lot of nice things to say. Jamie Vardy is the most detestable footballers Iāve seen at Oakwell in a long, long time, so itās nice to see he has found his perfect soulmate.
This.
The list of players capable of making John Terry seem like Keanu Reeves in the āgreat human beingā stakes is pretty short, but Vardyās on it.
What exactly makes him so dreadful? I don’t really follow football but I’m curious.
His taste in women?
“taste in women”? Ewww, on th’Afterword it’s not just the music that’s fromt’ seventies…
Well, for starters, when he played away matches for Stocksbridge, wearing his ankle tag, he had to be subbed at half-time so that he could get home in time for his curfew.
Heās the only player Iāve seen at Oakwell who has wound me up enough to want to run on and punch him, and Iāve never hit anybody in my life. He is one of those players who will go out of his way to celebrate in front of the opposing fans, goading them. I donāt understand why players running up to their own fans get booked for āinciting the crowdā and yet deliberately running up to and goading the opposition fans with hand gestures and that cuppy ear thing he does is perfectly allowable.
Allegedly it’s because they give him so much abuse he scores goals then winds them up. Quite funny to the unaligned observer. But I can imagine how irritating it is.
From what I’ve heard, he turned his life around after his first child was born and joining Leicester. He used to turn up to training still drunk from the night before but gave up drinking after he was subject to a quiet word. His career arc is remarkable.
He’s involved in a number of charities, which are all about disadvantaged children getting a better start. My bet is that they are close to his heart.
Players get vile abuse heaped upon them. I have some sympathy for those who hand a little of it back.
Donāt get me wrong, there are players who have made gestures to the home fans at Oakwell that I have no problem with. Nathan Blakeās shutting up of the racism in the bad old days for starters, or Paul Stancliffeās response after Sheffield United scored a 120th minute winner. But Vardy wasnāt getting any abuse until he did what he did, repeatedly, although it was just typical of a graceless club on the pitch, in the stands and in the boardroom. Leicester have since become my least liked club in the country (yes, even more than Dirty Leeds), and my timing was impeccable, with them winning the league and cup within a few years!
They are responsible for the only shock in 30 years of the Premier League.
Did you know that only two man-made things on the Earth are visible from the Moon?
(1) The Chinese Wall.
(2) The egg on the faces of Tottenham, Arsenal, Man. Utd. etc. when Leicester won the Premier League in 2015-16. It’s still there.
On Vardy… one of the very last Championship games I saw happened to involve Leicester City, about 10/12 years ago, and he was brilliant.
Said at the time, although I didn’t know him from a box of frogs, “F*** Rooney, put that guy in the World/Euro Cup side.”
They didn’t and – spoiler alert – Rooney was complete shite for the 4th or 5th tournament running.
Spoiler alert 2 the Great Wall isn’t visible from the moon.
DD’s moon is visible from the Great Wall, though.
I was think mostly of his well documented drunken racist abuse of an Asian bloke at a casino, but wouldnāt be surprised if thereās other stuff.
According to the Grauniad he apologized profusely and expressed regret. Unpleasant but everyone seems to have moved on. I’m not sure there’s any suggestion of similar behaviour since is there?
Well I may be old fashioned but I tend towards the old āleopards & spotsā angle, & also that itās fair to judge people by how they behave towards those who canāt serve them in any way.
Vardy pleaded ignorance as a defence & outlined how upset heād been when he realised how it must look.
Thatās horseshit IMO, just the same as folk who claim they only ādid itā because they were drunk. Usually more the case that the booze reveals their character & removed inhibition rather than creates the flaws in itself.
I reckon heās a wrong āun which is why he & his lovely lady wife are simpatico.
This.
The “I was drunk” defence is repeatedly trotted out in the courts, seemingly to no avail, as it cuts no ice at all with magistrates, judges and juries these days.
I don’t consider it valid mitigation anywhere else either, for letting out one’s inner racist/misogynist/thug/c*nt.
Agreed. Many of us have managed to be drunk without slipping into reprehensible behaviour.
Always seemed to work for Rowley Birkin QC
As I always say; if you want a fair & balanced opinion of somebody, ask their former spouse.
How ironic that Jamie Vardy tried to copyright the phrase ‘Chat shit, get banged.’ If only Rebekah would have listened to his wise words before deciding to go through with this disastrous court case.
Bloody nonsense Jamie, everybody knows you got that from Dub Be Good to Me by Beats International.
So outright a steal, it could be described as jam hot.
My last surgery was built on the land owned and occupied by a Reg Vardy garage. He refused the bigger bid by MCDonalds. Other than that, and the Christian fundamentalism of the family patriarch, I know nothing about them. I havenāt followed football since Brighton &Hove Albion played at the Goldstone Ground.
Yes. So very yes. Itās very amusing.
Something I found deeply confusing about the case is that from all the photos I saw, I literally could not tell the difference between Rebekah Vardy and Colleen Rooney.
Like Jedward, but without the talent?
@Gary
Bur totes awesome hair extensions, nails and facial filler.
I know nothing about the modern game but am I right in thinking that the winner of Vardy vs Rooney goes on to play Amber Heard in the Final?
(Or has that one already been done, weeks ago, amidst a concatenation of censorious tutting?)
Coleen wore an Orthopaedic boot during the court case. Fractured metatarsal?
If she was hoping to get Wayne’s juices flowing she’d have been better off going for the Zimmer frame
Stay classy.
Advice Wayne might well be advised to follow himself
Very good point
Bailiff, whack his peepee!
I’ve pondered this for nearly a full day and I’m still not sure what it means.
I have to say I am really impressed with the judge whose damn good sense shines through. There is no pulling the wool over her eyes. Similarly, the one whose deliberation and verdict was televised in the case of the young man who killed his grandfather. She was extremely thorough and extraordinarily measured given the circumstances of the case.
It’s a quotation from the thoroughly disreputable, and in many ways absolutely awful, Trippin’ in Court from the first Cheech and Chong album (the Dave’s Not Here Hitmakers). The Peepee in question belongs to one Lesley Horwinkel, telling you at a glance that this is a level of humour that makes mine look like Noel Coward.
Shame!
More serious point in response to I have to say I am really impressed with the judge whose damn good sense shines through. There is no pulling the wool over her eyes. Similarly, the one whose deliberation and verdict was televised in the case of the young man who killed his grandfather. She was extremely thorough and extraordinarily measured given the circumstances of the case.
There was a terrific piece in the Absurder yesterday about the televising of courts. I’ve always been against it but this guy’s thesis is that court proceedings are routinely misreported by lazy or malevolent journalists, and the only realistic antidote to this is full exposure of what goes on. It’s changed my mind – which was pretty entrenched – about this very big issue.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/jul/31/allow-tv-full-access-to-our-courtrooms-and-justice-will-truly-be-seen-to-be-done
Judge Sarah Munro certainly increased my confidence in the justice system.
I watched Derek Chauvin’s trial with fascination. The judge said some very odd things. Maybe, I’m not tuned to American phraseology. Some of the defence expert witnesses struck me as professional opportunists. Nevertheless, the right result was achieved in the end.
I’m all for televising court proceedings with the caveat of protecting vulnerable witnesses.
….and jurors. Agreed.
It’s really odd that the article above, while arguing for cameras in courtrooms, cites the O.J Simpson case. An instance in which the presence of cameras skewed proceedings enormously, transformed the trial into a three ring circus, and quite probably saw a murderer walk free.
I would personally be cautious about introducing cameras in all but the most limited circumstances.
His argument is a product of desperation. If we’re going to have this constant “enemies of the people” narrative about the justice system, and we are, perhaps it’s the only possible corrective.
If his goal is accurate reporting, less culture war bollocks and greater respect for the institutions of law, he’ll find that TV cameras will only worsen all of those issues, as they have done in numerous US court cases.
Our courts are functioning pretty well. Our public discourse, on the other hand, is utterly fucked. The idea that greater exposure of the former to the latter will improve things is highly dubious.
I remember the OJ trial. It was a major media event from the day of the murders. The sedate chase along the highway was watched by millions across the globe.
The trial took place months later. Putting together a jury took an age. The major influence on its make up was the shift from Santa Monica to downtown Los Angeles for safety reasons. As a result, Afro-Americans were in a majority. The jury were unable to view the media coverage, much easier to achieve in 1995.
Once the verdict was in, the public reaction, having watched the same TV programmes, was split along racial lines. White people largely felt it had been a fix and Black people mostly agreed with the Not Guilty outcome.
I doubt the screening of the trial itself affected the outcome. The media circus around it may well have polarised public opinion. OJ’s lawyers did a great job of casting doubt on the evidence. It helped them that a prominent white investigator used racist language regularly.
Trials are meant to be conducted in public. I can’t really see any objection to bringing the justice system into the 21st Century with the sensible use of TV cameras.
The defence in the OJ trial used the media coverage to amp up racial tensions around the trial and its outcome. It’s very difficult to argue that the trial (or indeed wider society) benefited from media coverage.
More recently, we’ve seen the judge in the Kyle Rittenhouse trial being pulled to bits by the internet (including having his integrity questioned by virtue of his ring tone), and Amber Heard, undoubtedly a nasty piece of work, undergoing a live online character assassination during her recent court case. Those are just two examples from many. Neither judges or witnesses (or indeed claimants/defendants) benefit from being dragged down into the bearpit of online discourse, which is what will inevitably happen where trials are televised. Trial by meme.
Trials are indeed meant to be conducted in public, for very good reason. The logic behind those reasons does not automatically extend to televising them, which is why they largely haven’t been in this country to date.
The Rittenhouse trial was politically loaded from the start. The judge may well have been targeted even without TV cameras. Amber Heard was going to be found out sooner or later.
Funnily enough, I see televising trials as a way of refuting the haterz. Online discourse is a bearpit anyway. Set that up against the largely measured discourse in a court and it looks stupid. Cameras are here to stay in America. Less so in this country. I think we are going to see more deliberations on our news bulletins.
Objection! Speculation, your honour.
Without wishing to get self-reflexive/meta (ooh, go on then), Vardy was, reportedly, paying Ā£10,000 a day for her legal team. Surely any legal team with even a cursory knowledge of the law wouldāve strongly encouraged her (if not outright refused to take the case) to drop it before it came to court. My knowledge of the law is based solely on having once dated a lawyer, where I overheard some long words: principally in Latin. Even I thought it stank of insanity to insist on going to court.
Iām sure there are some people from the legal profession on here. What does it do for your reputation if you coin in ten grand a day for a case you know you have zero chance of winning? Thatās not to denigrate lawyers; Iām genuinely curious.
….they have to do such rigorous exams as well.
I could have been a Judge, Moose, but I never had the Latin. Donāt get me wrong: I was a pretentious/condescending knob – and Iād still never jail Katie Price – but I never had the Latin*
*Omne ignotum pro magnifico, obviously.
….is that because of the busty substances?
They probably did tell her she was going to lose.
She certainly refused CRās offer to settle the matter
without going into court.
Refuse to take the case?
Why would they?
Sheād only have gone down the road and spaffed it up the wall
at another barristerās
Refuse to take the case?
Why would they?
Sheād only have gone down the road and spaffed it up the wall
at another barristerās
Dread at the mantrols again, Jay?
Sorry, M, didnāt realize it was now verbotten to use the
term āsheā
Please advise me of RVās preferred pronoun and iāll be sure to refer to him/her/them as such in future
Without wishing to speak on behalf of Moose, you have double-posted again.
Booyakasha!
….m’lud
Apologies.
I should hope so. Caused me the most frightful iration, it did.
Iām sure she would, Jaygee, but if, as a legal firm, your ten-grand-a-day professional reputation relies on winning cases/providing sound legal advice/stopping your client losing Ā£3 million, is is not a Pyrrhic victory? Surely other high-profile clients would think youāre a bitā¦shit?
Only those prospective clients who think an impossible case can be won if you just pay your lawyers enough. For sensible clients, your reputation would be unaffected.
Given that it is widely accepted that RV is an arrogant fool
who refused her opponentās offer to settle out of court, any
law firm who took the case was effectively on a hiding to
nothing.
The history of the libel courts in the UK is littered with
stories of entitled idiots like Vardy.
Could never get along with poetry, me.
I hate ‘blank verse’. ‘Wank worse’, more like, har har har!
Wouldn’t it be better if it finished “somethingsomething cardie”?
Y’know, like ‘wooly cardie’?
Or ‘lardy’?
‘Mardy’?
Thomas Hardy. He was very good, apparently
… which completes the circle and brings us right back to Tess of the, er, wossnames… B’askervilles.
‘Becs of the Vardyvilles.
Who’s in the WhatsApp group… Who?
I haven’t followed this case in any detail, but I had a quick Google to see who Vardy used. He’s a very well established and fairly well known lawyer with a long track record of success over a quarter of a century.
Obviously, better for one’s rep to win cases than to lose them, but I wouldn’t imagine that this result will dent him to any great extent. In fact, I would imagine the (fairly reasonable) assumption will be that he gave good advice, which went ignored.
As others have said above, all a lawyer can do is advise their client. You would be surprised at how often clients do not take some or all of that advice, often for very good reasons.
I’ve done jury service once, on one case I was taken off as when the witness got in the stand he looked across at the jury saw me and waved. As I saw him getting in I explained to the clerk that I knew the witness, I had to be dismissed the judge said it was obvious the witness knew me. I found out the next day that another juror asked to be removed after as he was deaf and hadn’t heard a word said.
The other case was so badly presented by the police and prosecution that we spent more time out of the court than in it. The judge eventually stopped it, apologised to us for having our time wasted and said he would write a strong letter to the Chief Constable.
“I object, your honor! This trial is a travesty. It’s a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham”
Did jury service in Hong Kong on a murder trial (still then a capital offense although rarely used) in the mid-90s.
The bare bones of the case were that the two kids in the dock were part of a triad gang that had become embroiled in a fight that resulted in a rival gang member’s death.
The fact that the kids were underage when the murder took place and were being charged under joint endeavor (they obviously hadn’t ran away fast enough) made the case a very contentious one at the time.
The trial only lasted for four days. As with HR above, most of this time was spent in the jury room while the defense and prosecution discussed legal fine points with the beak.
Eventually, the defense and prosecution compromised on a manslaughter charge to which the kids entered guilty pleas.
Juries in HK have only seven (rather than 12 members) of which I was the only Westerner.
I’m sure you can guess who got elected foreman when the time came to read out the guilty verdicts to a court full of grieving family members and very aggrevied looking fellow triad members
I was called for jury service many years ago in West Wales, but asked to be excused when I discovered that I knew the defendant. I was excused.
A long time later I was again called for jury service in a fraud trial. It was very obvious as the case progressed that the two defendants were guilty and they eventually changed their plea to guilty as the evidence against them mounted. I got a bollocking from the judge on the second day when he noticed I was nodding off during a long piece of technical evidence.
Is there anybody on the Afterword who isn’t friends with miscreants?
I was a miscreant myself, as regards the smoking and cultivation of weed and the taking of certain other illegal recreational substances.
The young woman in the Welsh court case had stabbed and killed her abusive husband (with a breadknife) and hidden his body in the cupboard under her stairs. She was initially charged with murder, but that charge was dropped mid-trial and eventually she pleaded guilty to failing to report the death and hiding the corpse. She was put on probation.
Yeah, but you had taken DRUGS you absolute MONSTER.
Since we are here, talking about the Law – there’s something quite interesting I learn-ed ( ! ) only recently.
When a wrinkled-up old judge interrupts proceedings by saying something like “Er…who is…(reads from notes over pince-nez glasses) ‘Shakin’ Stevens’?” – this is always jumped on by the tabloids as evidence of how out of touch judges are.
It’s probable that the QC knows very well who Shakin’ Stevens is. He makes the interjection so that the court can officially record that he is a famous rock & roll singer. This helps someone in 100 years’ time understand what’s happening when Shaky’s fame has faded.
@Black-Celebration
Iāve always wanted to know who the famous āman* on the Clapham omnibusā is or was.
* or woman or gender-fluid person
I used to take the Clapham omnibus daily, Lambeth, via embankment, to the aforesaid junction. Except I got off at Battersea. (And on again, in the mornings.)
The mystery – solved!
Also why the word omnibus is only ever used when referring to said person. Apart from that BBC arts programme in the 70s.
You forgot omnibus collections of writerās essays, novels and short stories
A very useful explainer for why Vardy though she had a case https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/society-and-culture/what-rebekah-vardy-got-wrong
This is an interesting and well written article. In the end, Rebekah Vardy brought the case because she was deluded, either about her own responsibility for the leaks or the solidity of her case, the burden of proof resting on Coleen Rooney’s tiny shoulders.
Hold me closer tiny shoulders as Wayne sings every night.
She’s now gone on something called Talk TV to bemoan the unfairness of the UK judicial system and whinge about how her “ordeal” has left her with PTSD.
She keeps digging herself in it at this rate, how long will it be someone like Simon Cowell gets her into the studio to record a cover version of Bernard Cribbins’ Hole in the Ground.
She seems to have sold her story to The Sun – so they, at least, will be providing sympathetic coverage for a whileā¦
@jaygee
I saw that. Predictable I guess. Leave it Rebekah, leave it.
alternatively, she could take a pickaxe to that album Nick Cave did a few years back
She’s not the kind to “Leave It” while she’s getting paid, I suspect.
She has a three million pound bill to pay. I don’t think she is going to go away quietly.
Panto season coming up and Biggins isnāt getting any younger. Definite opportunity for RV to cash in there.
@Black-Celebration
Oh, no there isnāt!
Sheās more Wicked Queen than Pantomime Dame though. Bigginsā greasepaint can stay in its dedicated backstage drawer for now.
Lesley Joseph isn’t getting any younger.
Still would though
C’mon. Her acting isn’t that bad.
Problem is RV would insist on the panto being rewritten to show the wicked queen/stepmother as the victim of shifty underlings.
Wayne R and Jamie V would be a hoot as the ugly sisters though
Sheād throw the glass slipper into the sea and deny everything – even though all the nice ladies and gentlemen and all the boys and girls all SAW her do it. BOOOO!
Must everything be turned into a stupid-ass TV drama?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63230645
Seriously, everything?
Oh look there’s Michael Sheen, no doubt he’ll astonish us all by doing one of his funny voices.
Tchuh!
His Kenneth Williams was hard going.
For him, in particular. Severe nostril torsion.
It was a quite gruelling and painful watch.
@Rob-C
Oooh, Matron!
Have a Vardy… I mean a vada…..
I had two matrons at school. One was the foxy young assistant, who used to slip me the odd sly slice of toast, and always saved the best orange segments for yours truly at half time. Happy days.