Seems to be back to their earlier material and on first listen to me has that “Peter Gabriel” feel to it (I remember on first hearing “Asleep At The Back” and thinking it was PG)
I’ve followed them since the early days, when I heard Scattered Black and Whites on a covermount CD. As with all music, they split opinion, although they seem to attract the kind of vitriol reserved for X Factor winners. Craig Potter said that “The looseness in the track definitely comes from us playing live in the room and, on the second part, we decided not to play to a click to really allow the tune to breathe.” I agree with the last part of that statement, but for me, the first part of the track just sounds like another average Elbow album track.
I have no truck at all with the X Factor winners because they exist in a parallel world that doesn’t impinge on my entertainment. Elbow, for a reason that baffles me entirely, get played on 6Music so I’m subjected to them and therefore aim my vitriol at them….and coldplay and that bloody awful new Thom Yorke album etc etc.. Rant over!
BTW. I except 6Music is a broad church so I’m prepared to put up with stuff I don’ like to get at the stuff I do.
Oh and I forgot to mention that the second part of the track is enhanced by the wonderful Jesca Hoop who has recently released her new record and I shall be seeing live in Liverpool later this year. 🙂
I kind of agree @Ainsley Elbow on form are superb and their last album was I think possibly their best yet – they remembered to add melodies in amongst the sonics. This one , on first listen, sounds a bit forced and, I agree with the opening post, a bit PG ( who is also fabulous on his day , which isn’t everyday)
I dont understand the vitriol – it is something we do when bands get more success than we feel is necessary. I dont care what anyone says but Seldom Seen Kid is a great album and the widespread success that it got was fully deserved and no amount of musical snobbery should take away from that success.
As for appearing on 6music that is always go7ng to be pretty likely given that Guy Garvey hosts a Sunday show on that station – and very good it is too
Not everything they do hits the mark but they are more good than bad and better than most of the other Manc bands wrongly lauded as being the bees knees.
Schoolboy error.
You need to tune to 6Fishmongering if you want to hear mackerel.
I wasn’t very impressed by this particular song. It didn’t seem very coherent, but I have no antipathy for Elbow. Some of their previous stuff is very good indeed and Guy Garvey seems like a pretty good chap. Although keeping Rachael Stirling all to himself is a bit mean if you ask me.
You can get these amazing things nowadays, I think they are called… “forks”. They allow you to eat fish without pesky bones, if you’re careful. Try one out, I think you’ll be impressed! 😉
This from a man who regularly dishes out seemingly vitriolic judgements willy nilly in pithy form, such as they’re crap, shite, bollocks and so on. You may perceive snobbery, others see merely a band who have taken over the mantle of most wet and boring from Coldplay since Coldplay saw fit to embrace pop and disco and get over themselves a bit.
If referring to me I would like to know who I have referred to as crap, shite or bollocks – pray tell.
I dont see any comparison to Coldplay whatsoever except in terms of popularity for which they fall well short anyway. Maybe a Day like this matches Fix you in terms of sentimental schmaltz but still a great song. But they will remain forever in my heart for Station approach and Starlings to name but two.
It’s an observation that’s all. A vitriolic response to certain acts’ music is OK. It doesn’t mean you hate the individuals concerned. One can be irritated and mystified that a band gets critical acclaim or becomes ubiquitous. That’s not snobbery. Some of the best and most entertaining writing about pop music is vitriolic. Without such writings music journalism would get dull.
I totally get that @Diddley-Farquar. Interestingly though in the case of Elbow they were very much a second division band until they released Seldom seen kid. I bet the majority of people only became aware of them with that release and then as a result of one song they were everywhere which is probably why there is so much disdain for them now.
Same with U2 with Joshua Tree, Dire Straits with Brothers in Arms and endless others. It seems to me it is the familiarity of the song rather than the quality of the song that diminishes the regard in which a band is held.
Take Leonard Cohens song Haleleujah for example. I doubt there are many people that would feny its brilliance yet there are people who are heartily sick of it now because it has been covered by so many people that its uniqueness has been devalued.
I guess if they weren’t popular then I wouldn’t hear them as much so wouldn’t get so annoyed so i suppose part of the problem is their popularity but I honestly don’t dislike them cos they’re popular. I don’t give a stuff what size venues they play.
Lemonhope says
I’ve followed them since the early days, when I heard Scattered Black and Whites on a covermount CD. As with all music, they split opinion, although they seem to attract the kind of vitriol reserved for X Factor winners. Craig Potter said that “The looseness in the track definitely comes from us playing live in the room and, on the second part, we decided not to play to a click to really allow the tune to breathe.” I agree with the last part of that statement, but for me, the first part of the track just sounds like another average Elbow album track.
johnw says
I have no truck at all with the X Factor winners because they exist in a parallel world that doesn’t impinge on my entertainment. Elbow, for a reason that baffles me entirely, get played on 6Music so I’m subjected to them and therefore aim my vitriol at them….and coldplay and that bloody awful new Thom Yorke album etc etc.. Rant over!
BTW. I except 6Music is a broad church so I’m prepared to put up with stuff I don’ like to get at the stuff I do.
Lemonhope says
Oh and I forgot to mention that the second part of the track is enhanced by the wonderful Jesca Hoop who has recently released her new record and I shall be seeing live in Liverpool later this year. 🙂
Ainsley says
Sonically and lyrically interesting, but as so often happens with Elbow (One Day Like This excepted), they forget to write a tune on top of it all.
Feedback_File says
I kind of agree @Ainsley Elbow on form are superb and their last album was I think possibly their best yet – they remembered to add melodies in amongst the sonics. This one , on first listen, sounds a bit forced and, I agree with the opening post, a bit PG ( who is also fabulous on his day , which isn’t everyday)
SteveT says
I dont understand the vitriol – it is something we do when bands get more success than we feel is necessary. I dont care what anyone says but Seldom Seen Kid is a great album and the widespread success that it got was fully deserved and no amount of musical snobbery should take away from that success.
As for appearing on 6music that is always go7ng to be pretty likely given that Guy Garvey hosts a Sunday show on that station – and very good it is too
Not everything they do hits the mark but they are more good than bad and better than most of the other Manc bands wrongly lauded as being the bees knees.
Cozzer says
Nicely put! They’re also fab live and can operate in sheds, arenas or stadia with ease. Never boring, often life-affirming.
Don’t like ’em? Fine, listen to something else. In other news I cannot stomach mackerel.
Chrisf says
I don’t understand all this vitriol for mackerel……… it’s a lovely fish and high in Omega 3. I’ve never heard any on 6music though.
Mike_H says
Schoolboy error.
You need to tune to 6Fishmongering if you want to hear mackerel.
I wasn’t very impressed by this particular song. It didn’t seem very coherent, but I have no antipathy for Elbow. Some of their previous stuff is very good indeed and Guy Garvey seems like a pretty good chap. Although keeping Rachael Stirling all to himself is a bit mean if you ask me.
Cozzer says
It’s the bones. Cannot get used to them. Spoils any enjoyment I have for kippers too 🙁
Freddy Steady says
@cozzer
Me and all. I’d eat loads more fish if it wasn’t for the bones. Stupid things!
MC Escher says
You can get these amazing things nowadays, I think they are called… “forks”. They allow you to eat fish without pesky bones, if you’re careful. Try one out, I think you’ll be impressed! 😉
Diddley Farquar says
This from a man who regularly dishes out seemingly vitriolic judgements willy nilly in pithy form, such as they’re crap, shite, bollocks and so on. You may perceive snobbery, others see merely a band who have taken over the mantle of most wet and boring from Coldplay since Coldplay saw fit to embrace pop and disco and get over themselves a bit.
SteveT says
If referring to me I would like to know who I have referred to as crap, shite or bollocks – pray tell.
I dont see any comparison to Coldplay whatsoever except in terms of popularity for which they fall well short anyway. Maybe a Day like this matches Fix you in terms of sentimental schmaltz but still a great song. But they will remain forever in my heart for Station approach and Starlings to name but two.
Diddley Farquar says
It’s an observation that’s all. A vitriolic response to certain acts’ music is OK. It doesn’t mean you hate the individuals concerned. One can be irritated and mystified that a band gets critical acclaim or becomes ubiquitous. That’s not snobbery. Some of the best and most entertaining writing about pop music is vitriolic. Without such writings music journalism would get dull.
SteveT says
I totally get that @Diddley-Farquar. Interestingly though in the case of Elbow they were very much a second division band until they released Seldom seen kid. I bet the majority of people only became aware of them with that release and then as a result of one song they were everywhere which is probably why there is so much disdain for them now.
Same with U2 with Joshua Tree, Dire Straits with Brothers in Arms and endless others. It seems to me it is the familiarity of the song rather than the quality of the song that diminishes the regard in which a band is held.
Take Leonard Cohens song Haleleujah for example. I doubt there are many people that would feny its brilliance yet there are people who are heartily sick of it now because it has been covered by so many people that its uniqueness has been devalued.
johnw says
I guess if they weren’t popular then I wouldn’t hear them as much so wouldn’t get so annoyed so i suppose part of the problem is their popularity but I honestly don’t dislike them cos they’re popular. I don’t give a stuff what size venues they play.
The Good Doctor says
Call that vitriol? You should have seen what I posted! I thought better of it and deleted it…