@RigidDigit ‘s struggle to come to terms with not liking something that he is told he must like made me think of Pete Doggett’s theory voiced at this week’s Word In Your Ear night that there is a clear difference to how women and men approach music.
Women like what they want
Men like what they think they should like or are told to like
Discuss.
Depends on the person, dunnit? I certainly used to set store by what I was supposed to like, but these days I can’t be arsed with all that. Although saying that, there are records that I only heard because they were “classics” and I felt I should like them, and then did! Horses is a good example of that.
He’s talking bollocks to get a discussion going. He should open an Afterword account.
Two words to fatally undermine the theory that women are all tremendous individualists, who march to the beat of their own drum and can’t be cowed or coerced into conformity like what men can: Bikini. Waxes.
*drops mic, exits thread*
Back, sack and crack, Mr Little?
I think I read once that most women tend to decide what music they like by the age of 13 and 20 or 30 years later it’s very likely to be the same. Certainly my missus and her best mate would fit that description. I occasionally buy CDs or download stuff for the wife, but I would bet that it’s at least 10 years since she actively purchased new music for herself and I would also wager that nothing she has bought since the age of around 18 (she’s 42) could remotely be described as being of a different genre to anything she bought prior to the age of 18 (i.e. Insipid pop).
What is it about the Vagina these days?
On mature reflection, this (“women like what they want, men like what they think they should like or are told to like”) is the kind of “new man” thing men say when they want a) women to like them, and b) to get inside their pants.
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Walls have ears.
Ladies may be viewing this thread right the now.
Yup.
I remember on the old old site David Hepworth said that women should choose the music for a dinner party as teenage boys choose music to shock or alienate others, teenage girls choose music for sappy reasons, men choose music to show off ( hey – you must hear this) whereas women choose music that will compliment the occasion and that everyone will like.
Shitloads of paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it.
There you go – David Hepworth. Never Seen A Woman Naked.
In my experience (as an idiot who used to read the NME to find out what I was supposed to like), women are more likely to just like whatever music they like. Men (or at least the men I knew) are more likely to deploy their zeitgeist filter before admitting to ‘liking’ or ‘disliking’ something.
Most of us grow out of that as we get older.
Just following what the NME says is/was bit tragic but following up on recommendations by writers whose taste/judgement you often find reliable is perfectly reasonable. How do you know what you will like without hearing everything, which is impossible?
Many blokes do seem to more inclined to go down the anal route (ooh err) and get into classifying and ordering everything to do with their particular interest.
Another thing Hepworth once wrote was that a woman, on hearing music she likes, will say, ‘This is good. Who is it?’ A man will always ask who it is before admitting to liking it in case they ‘shouldn’t’. I’ve tried this with male friends. ‘Who is this?’ ‘Do you like it?’ ‘Who is it?’ and so on and so on.
I have a theory that all theories about music are bollocks.
My mate has a theory that all bollocks are musical, but he’s yet to testes theory.
Thank you. I’m here all week.
Art – and all musicals are bollocks. Scientific fact.
Arf not Art, of course.
Yeah, cos, like, I can imagine that pete would know all about what women like and stuff.