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07/04/2020 by Uncle Wheaty 48 Comments
Where do we go from here?
Uncle Wheaty says
07/04/2020 at 18:42
At least he had a dream….
07/04/2020 at 19:34
He’s died?? WTF? Turns out Westminster isn’t the healthiest part of London after all.
07/04/2020 at 19:44
He is well gone and good riddance.
Here’s to a new Opposition with some ideas that won’t bankrupt the country.
David Kendal says
07/04/2020 at 20:07
If he had died, to paraphrase Dorothy Parker on Calvin Coolidge, how would we be able to tell?
07/04/2020 at 21:35
Have an up
07/04/2020 at 19:56
is it down to the lake, I fear?
Once he gets a haircut in 100 days after the lockdown ends.
Rigid Digit says
07/04/2020 at 21:01
That’ll be a fantastic day. Will he be wearing his favourite shirt?
07/04/2020 at 21:37
One made of hair and a big dose of reality!
08/04/2020 at 06:34
Nothing in his public life became him like the leaving of it, as the Bard nearly said. Corbyn in his final BBC interview claiming credit for Sunak’s unprecedented public spending – as if it was somehow influenced by his own plans to do the same, rather than the small matter of a global pandemic – was the perfect summary of his time on the big stage.
It reminded me of a Douglas Adams line, from Dirk Gently I think: “Thunder grumbled over distant hills, like a man saying ‘And another thing…’ twenty minutes after losing the argument.”
08/04/2020 at 11:32
Spot on. Deluded to the last.
08/04/2020 at 08:50
Good riddance. Like many, his 70s cliche leftism and shrill overbearing mob put me off voting Labour until thry get their senses back. The approach that did so well against Margaret Thatcher also proved effective here – and against substantially less formidable Tories. He was lampooned in the media as he was proudly complicit with Hamas, the pIRA, and anti-Semites, as well as voting hundreds of times against his own side in futile gestures then wanted loyalty himself. He invited this attention by his own choices and complained when he got the attention. Faced with a humourless and peevish self-righteous person in power, the British rightly become passive aggressive before taking the piss, whether it be a teacher, official, or leader of the opposition. Keir Starmer surely sees how Labour won elections, but has a heck of a job regaining credibility thanks to the damage Corbyn did.
08/04/2020 at 09:01
FWIIW, I agree with every word of your comment.
08/04/2020 at 09:34
Yes, I agree. I had many a tiff with self-righteous Corbynistas over the past few years, and the aggression I received was frightening. They are now leaving, and good riddance frankly. I don’t mind robust argument but can’t abide mindless abuse. It wasn’t so much his ideology, as I kept saying, but he was inept as a leader. The man was thrust into a job he didn’t want and was not up to.
08/04/2020 at 09:33
I, of course, don’t.
08/04/2020 at 11:30
Two problems Labour had: Quite a lot of that criticism came as a result of Corbyn’s dodgy past and open hostility to journalists; and his followers kept telling everyone they were brainwashed idiots – which as they might have foreseen, didn’t go down terribly well with the electorate
08/04/2020 at 11:42
Exactly the same two problems that facilitated the rise to dominance of the Huns in the 4th century.
Blue Boy says
08/04/2020 at 15:31
The Independent piece is fair enough but the other one by ‘Guest Contributor’ is facile in suggesting that the nations’s view of Corbyn is shaped entirely by the ‘Mainstream Media’ as opposed to, at least in part, by their seeing him in interviews, debates and at the despatch box and simply not thinking he was very good. It isn’t just the media’s fault that he didn’t get across Labour’s policies or create a confidence that they were deliverable; that’s at last as much down to his inability to rise to the role.
Amazing too how these people believe all of the rest of us are defenceless when it comes to being brainwashed by the media, whilst they and their fellow travellers alone are capable of seeing through it.
08/04/2020 at 15:38
I am agree, he wasn’t much cop in opposition. Ineffectual. But I think that was partly down to him having standards and values that were totally out of place in modern politics. A shame, as I still think he could potentially have been a good PM. I’ve just seen Bernie has pulled out of the race in America. Another shame. I don’t think the Western world is ready for caring, sharing socialism.
PS. The “Guest Contributor” was @Vincent.
08/04/2020 at 17:27
Apologies to @Vincent! But i do think that whilst there is no question that large sections of the media went after Corbyn and that certainly had an impact, the narrative that it was entirely the MSM wotdunnit is too simplistic, and lets Corbyn and those around him off the hook too easily. And we are all reaping the consequences now.
i agree though, that he strikes me as a decent enough man, if not a saint.
08/04/2020 at 17:41
He’ll be a nicer man for not being in that role, for sure.
08/04/2020 at 15:47
You’re right. By instinct I’m a natural Labour voter, and usually do vote that way, but by the gods he made it really, really difficult. If he struggled that much with people who actively wanted to get behind his party he had no chance with so may other voters.
08/04/2020 at 16:05
“Amazing too how these people believe all of the rest of us are defenceless when it comes to being brainwashed by the media, whilst they and their fellow travellers alone are capable of seeing through it.”
But it’s a difficult to come to another conclusion regarding those people who spouted exactly the same misrepresentations that the media constantly put forward.
08/04/2020 at 10:09
‘…a humourless and peevish self-righteous person…’ Bang on.
Also quite glad to see the back of Dianne Abbott. According to my son, who lives there, she’s an excellent constituency MP, but she was a bit of a disaster on the front bench. She’s very smart, but her general air of distraction and lack of oomph, and tendency to score own goals even if they weren’t her fault, made her a gift to racist and misogynist twats who fancied themselves as comedians.
08/04/2020 at 13:36
I’ve lived in her constituency for 25 years, I’ve seen nothing to suggest she’s an excellent MP for the area.
08/04/2020 at 13:49
My same-constituency source echoed Mike the P’s. I’ve never warmed to her at all, I find her tone so very condescending, but a friend who lives in Stoke Newington was adamant that she’s an excellent local MP.
08/04/2020 at 15:19
I’ve lived in several constituencies with notable MPs….hard to beat Winston Churchill for fame, and I remember seeing him once as a small child at Wanstead Conservative Club. Later on we got Patrick Jenkin, who I had an argument with on the doorstep until he realised I was under voting age and buggered off. In Bristol we had Tony Benn, who was a terrific MP and attended loads of meetings and was very affable. Later I had Heseltine in Henley who did nothing, and the Chingford skinhead in the 80s, who was also locally invisible.
08/04/2020 at 15:25
Hey, I grew up in Highams Park, went to school in Chingford, took my driving test in Wanstead! We probably had sexual relations at some point!
10/04/2020 at 09:01
You don’t remember..? I’m mortified….!
10/04/2020 at 09:04
I was very drunk for most of my youth.
10/04/2020 at 09:22
…and then, one day, you woke up, in Italy, with no idea how you got there but decided to stay.
10/04/2020 at 09:31
There’s a fine line between “hungover decision” and “legally binding jurisdiction”.
08/04/2020 at 16:37
Michael Foot was my famous MP. He did have a house in the constituency, never really stood up for constituents when a Labour government was making economic decisions that practically destroyed the area (in the 70s). Answered a letter my parents sent to him once.
10/04/2020 at 10:23
Harold Wilson was my MP. He was too preoccupied about other issues to be concerned about his constituents. Huge, invincible majority.
08/04/2020 at 18:13
When one contemplates the dismal state the Labour Party was in before Corbyn was elected leader, one wonders whether any of the other candidates could have done a much better job.
I fully agree Corbyn, sadly, was the wrong man for leader but he was the only one forthrightly offering a left-leaning agenda. Apart possibly from Andy Burnham, the others were a lacklustre bunch with nothing to offer but a lite version continuation of Tory austerity. The way the Labour party had become virtually indistinguishable from the Conservatives had to be rectified. Burnham might have achieved it, we will never know. Corbyn deserves a tiny bit of credit for at least finally opening up some distance between Labour policy and the Tories. They may go some way back from the left but they won’t go back to where Blair and Brown left them.
08/04/2020 at 23:28
I liked Liz “4%” Kendall. Proper social democrat. The Tories were most scared of her. Never mind!
08/04/2020 at 18:29
So, Jeremy Corbyn
09/04/2020 at 20:46
This, from George Fukin Osborne:
“Keir Starmer’s reshuffle is impressive – the Marxist nutters are out; moderate left are in. When this crisis is eventually over, and politics is resumed, the Tories are going to find that the 5 years when there was no opposition and no alternative has come to an abrupt end”
10/04/2020 at 07:54
Comment on Twitter
“George Osbourne, the man even Theresa May could out manoeuvre.”
count jim moriarty says
10/04/2020 at 16:57
And he has previously described John McDonnell (presumably one of the ‘Marxist nutters’ he refers to) as ‘a very difficult opponent’.
Bloke is an absolute pillock of the highest order. He’d be better off getting the hedge fund he works part time for (at a salary of £650k) to get their hands in their pockets and make some contribution for the NHS workers. If it’s good enough for PL footballers…
10/04/2020 at 22:19
I’ve not heard the “very difficult opponent’ quote. Where’s that from?
10/04/2020 at 22:25
I guess you can be a Marxist nutter and a very difficult opponent at the same time…? McDonnell is a smart guy and likeable….unlike his former boss.
10/04/2020 at 22:32
yeah I’m just surprised Osborne said that. Must have been on McDonnell’s birthday card or something like that
10/04/2020 at 21:58
I have just seen a Facebook post by an acquaintance of the hard left persuasion saying they are leaving because Jess Phillips has been appointed to be Shadow Minister for Domestic Violence and Safeguarding….well, don’t slam the door on the way out you twat. Who are you going to vote for next time then…?
10/04/2020 at 22:27
10/04/2020 at 23:29
People like that never used to vote anyway, before Corbyn. They sat around in pubs drinking beer and plotting revolutions that never happened, organising demos that nobody else went on. And like someone mentioned elsewhere, selling each other newspapers.
11/04/2020 at 06:38
Sounds like the original pitch for Citizen Smith… 😉
12/04/2020 at 16:33
Power To The People!
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