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It was The Day when The AfterWord imploded
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2024/feb/20/beatles-films-sam-mendes-john-paul-george-ringo?CMP=Share_AndroidApp_Other
Help!
It’s all too much.
That’s my only Beatles related joke. You’ll be pleased to know.
Bit over the Hillage if you ask me
To be fair, it was a very good one. 😀
Quick, hurry up and make it before any more boomers die!
If Lodey wants serious discussion – this! ⬆️
I’m a Beatles nut and these films don’t interest me in the slightest. Very strange to do 4.
Maybe we’ll be able to watch all 4, simultaneously, using Apple Goggles (cue company rapprochement), with them fusing into one performance whenever they’re in the same room or stage as each other.
I’m thinking a 20 year long film, and I particularly look forward to the scenes of them brushing their teeth.
Mark Lewisohn is writing the script, so expect the first film (Ringo) in 2054
Part 1
Peter Jackson must be furious. “I could have obfuscated making proper films for another twenty years!”
Surely needs to be shot like Timecode.
I don’t care anymore.
Used to feel we had it made
Used to feel we could sail away
Can you imagine how I feel today?
Mendes says his proposal for four films about separate body parts of Taylor Swift was nixed by the artiste.
He has, however, secured the rights to films about her next four “long-term relationships”
Obsessed.
I’m fighting that restraining order.
It’s all so unfair, because it’s not as if we make jokes about other musicians – Bob Dylan or Van Morrison, for example.
… but they’re musicians, Moosey.
Yeah, a mere woman can’t possibly be a musician, right? Or indeed have more than one relationship, which male artists have never done, of course.
She’s not very black, though, is she?
Isn’t she? I’d never noticed
A very well-chosen clip, Moosey. I don’t normally click on these links but I am happy to have done so here. If only other A-Worders could post with your cleverness and relevance! It’s a real addition to the thread.
Thank you. Recovered from that ruddy good punch on the bottom?
Her’s a link for you by way of thanks. Some may see it as a heartwarming story of family values. I see it as a cult. Look at their eyes. It’s like a Fundamentalist community, or a modern Stepford Wives (which is also what She Who Must Not Be Named reminds me of).
https://rb.gy/q1enf5
I really don’t think it’s cultlike behaviour. It’s quite sweet if anything.
It may be as you say “quite sweet”, but the trappings of a cult are all there. She’s a cult; maybe a quite sweet cult, but a cult.
We can’t have generations talking to each other and liking the same music. This is an attack on traditional family values.
jeez BT, you bite everytime.
Why should I let Mr Oh-So-Amusing have free rein?
My rein is and always has been free. You’re just giving it greater scope.
Surely you have noticed how quickly he gets bored. He only makes these comments to get a reaction. While you continue to react he will continue to make them unless he gets bored before then.
It’s simultaneously flattering and somewhat perturbing that I seem to be living rent-free in his head (as the young people say) but I’m getting the feeling that I’m the one being encouraged to shut down while he continues to be enabled. He and his acolytes managed to aggravate the estimable Pencilsqueezer; I’m damned if I’m gonna quietly accept his trolling or leave him to it.
Acolytes? Encouraged to shut down? Perhaps you should take a calming walk in the fresh air.
@junes – all comments are reactions, including your own. “You are not stuck in traffic – you are traffic.”
I genuinely thought for a while back there that Black Type was joining in the fun and going with the gag – I was wrong.
It’s not the first time I’ve been accused of trolling by a blatant troll. His personal attacks were unexpected, bizarre, and troubling. How can a grown man get so upset when his favourite pop star comes in for some very mild criticism? The terms “anodyne” and “meh” were about as vicious as I got. I genuinely do not care if anyone loves Taylor Swift or not. They’re as free to listen to her as I am to not. But I do find her fan following (at least those who aren’t girls or young women) a bit disturbing, and very near borderline cultish. Black Type’s continued bridling, coming to the poor woman’s defence, only makes me think I’m right about grown men wearing Swiftie hats – literally or metaphorically.
Taylor Swift is to music as liminal space is to architecture. She is not about the music.
Acolytes? Please. We’re Saucerers.
I always forget: Acolytes work down from the ceiling and Acomytes grow up from the floor?
Those aren’t jokes…
No, they’re pillows.
See that Bears game last week?
LEAVE FELICITY KENDAL ALOOOOOONE!
Leaving her alone was not what I used to think back in the day.
One of the things I found most interesting about the article was the photo of Sam and his missus, Alison. She is a rather distinguished trumpeter.
She’s a local lass from just over the border in Royston (not the Vasey one) and took her A-levels at Hills Road Sixth Form, Cambridge, where Olivia Newton-John’s dad was the head (decades before, mind).
My pensioner mum has a part-time job teaching English in the primary school she attended.
I like to think a little of the glamour has rubbed off on you. fentypants.
FentyPants © – I sense a marketing opportunity…
Apologies to anyone still having their breakfast… Given I have Crohn’s disease, I’ve often thought skidmark-proof undercrackers could be just the niche business opportunity. 0.32% of the population of eight billion people is, um, a lot*.
(*) I had two Maths lecturers at university. One used the catchphrase “I’ve shown you the method, now hire a small boy to finish the calculation”. The other went with “there are only three numbers in Engineering: zero, one, and lots”.
Re: your pants*
You could get some kind of sponsorship deal with The Skids.
“Richard says they’re just the job, son!”
(* The times I’ve used that subject line..)
Or Richard Widmark, were he still alive.
Do your shorts elicit snorts?
Are your shreddies a disgrace?
Do your flies attract the flies?
Are your Jockeys in bad taste?
Let FentyPants© be your answer
To the question Y-Fronts!
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We did ‘Rock Box’ – Afterword underwear for your ‘Tumblin’ Dice’ many years ago, didn’t we.
For AfterWorders looking for branded pants (UK), there is an option already on the market.
Oh, my!
Lionel Blairs, though. Do they come with cycle clips?
FentyClips©! The modern cuff management solution for all your mobile trouser logistic needs!
Run For Your Life
‘Less’ Beatles – my favourite group – is best Beatles.
This does not sound like ‘less’ Beatles.
I certainly champion the core pre-Anthology catalogue over all the various amendments and additions made since.
I’m not Beatles Nut but am I alone here who’s thinking “Sam Mendes is a pretty cool director and four interlocking films re John, Paul, Ringo and the other one sounds pretty interesting “?
You are alone everywhere, Lodes.
Aren’t we all, aren’t we all.
*freshens Escher’s G&T*
Alone again, naturally.
ps I have raised a formal complaint to The Mods re the hijacking of my almost-interesting thread. This is no place for Fenton’s skid marks, only a serious discussion….. hang on, hang on, forgot where I was for a moment
You’re right, Lodey. Sam Mendes is a fantastic director. Any new film by him is something we ought to be excited about.
Incidentally, looking at his biog, it is interesting to see that he is as famous for his theatre work as he is for his movies.
I shouldn’t be cynical, but these Beatles films will make him a preposterous amount of money.
Shame he couldn’t have done a film on a musician who is slightly less well-known. Errrrrr…Acker Bilk. Delius. George Formby. Kathleen Ferrier……
Not sure a huge amount is assured. A biopic of The Beatles might make some money, but individual films? How many are going to go and see “Ringo – my life” compared to, say, the next Spiderman franchise (we must be due another one soon)
I did read that the Ringo film would be of him smoking ciggies and doing drum rolls as the other three bickered.
Just take a look at Mendes’s innovative track record, @dai.
I think we can expect a lot more than four conventional biopics.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005222/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_2_nm_6_q_sam%2520mend
Olivia Coleman starred (and was excellent) in Empire of Light. The very best actors and screenwriters will be queuing up to work with him.
His announcement was global news. I don’t doubt that many people are already excited about this project.
He has certainly made some good movies. However I was disappointed with Empire of Light. Great performance from Coleman but I found the film to be unfocused and a bit all over the place.
What if – and bear with me here – what if Ringo is in the next Spiderman movie? I’m seeing franchise opportunities: “Beatles Assemble”, “Beatles: Civil War” &c &c
I can agree with you there @Dai about Empire of Light.
Enjoyable in several ways but not a masterpiece.
Now there is a wonderful idea @MC Escher. A MCU Beatles Mash Up!!
And when you think about it it makes perfect sense.
The Fantastic Four first appeared in 1961.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantastic_Four
Spiderman in 1962.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man
To juxtapose the rise of the UK Fab Four with that of the various US Marvel comic book titans makes an awful lot of sense.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Beatles_(Earth-616)
Thanks Hubert! Interesting to read how about Beatles references in the world of Marvel.
As regards rock bands and Marvel, Kiss (always with an eye for self publicity) went so far as to have a special edition comic written about them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kiss_(comics)
Kiss also appeared in a feature-length Scoody Doo episode. It was, as you can imagine, crap.
Still, the Fabs vs Scooby Doo… They’d have gotten away with it if it weren’t for those screaming kids.
For some reason I can’t imgur the image but there is a famous cover of Batman with the Beatles.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/275596638139
Formal complaint?
“It was The Day when The AfterWord imploded”
How more implosive do you want?
If only I understood what you say…
I get that a lot. Mostly I think people steer round to a more (insert adjective) comment
Terrible idea. Still, it’s his time to waste.
Admittedly, it’s not the best thread we’ve ever had
It’s Getting Better (couldn’t get much worse)
The films or the FentyPants?
It’s easily the Best Thread That Didn’t Win A Hamper thread.
ps anybody living in Canada? Mind going round and giving Dai a good slap?
Not the done thing in Canada, Lodes.
You’d be better off asking them to send
him a sternly worded What’s Up message
I’m worried about “sternly”
Sadly he died in 2018, but he lived to see the rise of the MCU.
Done it again, haven’t you? Something to do with Marvel Comics?
It’s too tempting. Yes, it’s a wordplay on ‘Stan Lee’. I can stop if you’d rather I didn’t.
Not this Stanley then?
I thought it was Sternly Mirthews, “Ol’ Funny Thighs”.
Not Manley Footwear then?
Surely it’s What’s Up, A
Call me shallow, but if they include the sex ,drugs and gossipy stuff ….ok and some music I will see the lot.
Sex,drugs and gossipy stuff – Afterword t shirt right there.
I’m with Spinal Tap’s Viv Savage on that sort of thing
I struggle to think of any sex those 4 were involved in that I would wish to see portrayed. People having acid trips? Rather tedious. I am wondering what I would find of interest? Hard to beat the books and documentaries already out there. I suppose a film can be great regardless of the subject. Perhaps that can happen.
I also wonder about the actors. Maybe they find the 4 that are right, but what of the many other players? Jagger, Dylan, Bowie, Yoko. Potential for a disaster is considerable.
I agree – I for one have no wish to see on a big screen countless beautiful young women being shown into The Beatles’ dressing room….
I don’t really get music film biogs. I mean, I guess some of them have been alright – the Johnny Cash one springs to mind – but when offered the chance, almost simultaneously a few years ago, of an Aretha doc or an Aretha biog at the cinema I plumped for two visits, both to see the doc.
I’ve got two irreverent exceptions to the rule… that half-hour comedy on Sky about Dylan going to the wrong Dave’s house in North London, and “The Hours and Times”, an hour-length film about Lennon and Brian Epstein having a holiday in Spain just as Beatlemania was taking off. They were both very short and brilliant.
While agree with you about JL and BE both being brilliant, I always pictured each of them as being of average height if not a little taller
If an AW hamper implodes, do you get covered in tinned chicken? Or is that only explosions? Any physicists on here?
Ah, that’s why the walls are all covered in goo….
Who woulda thunk a thread about The Beatles would gain a hamper??
You would, you cynical wee basturt!
I guess if it implodes with sufficient gravitational force, it might form a singularity – scoot down a wormhole to arrive at a distant time and space. Aliens of a form that we can’t begin to imagine might, even as we speak, be trying to figure out how to open a tin of “chicken”…
Vicky McClure might know, she was an ExPo on that thing on the telly. I must say, she didn’t have a very good track record, every time she turned up to diffuse a bomb, – spoiler alert! – somebody died. I’d hate to do her annual appraisal.
A coveted Maxwell’s Silver Hamper no less
A fitting way to, thankfully and respectfully, lay this thread in a dusty but reverential grave.