I was making several trips out to the deck this morning in order to enjoy breakfast in the open air, and it occurred to me that life would be so much simpler if I had a tray! It’s a crowded market, with a wide choice of materials, shape, and colour. Handles or no? Is circular the way to go? Before I commit to an investment, I’d very much appreciate your thoughts on the matter. Have you a tray-related anecdote, perhaps? A favourite tray? Perhaps you were seduced by a tray’s looks, only to “have your fingers burned” later – maybe the laminate started to peel back. A handle worked loose. Those coffee mug rings proved ineradicable. Let’s hear your “tray nightmare stories” in the hope that I’ll not make the same mistake you did!
And let’s be having your songs about trays, while we’re at it, Afterworders! Here’s the mighty Bob The Tray singing “Mule Train”!

A tray! That brings back so many happy memories. My grandmother used to have one of those, a metal one I think, with “Mackinnon’s Finest Potted Head Paste” written across it, along with the company’s logo, which was two kilted Seaforth Highlanders eating sandwiches while being served – I think that’s the phrase – by a couple of the natives.
My Grandad’s party piece was to use the tray to bash his head at the the appropriate moments during the Battle of Brisbane. That’s the song, I mean, not the battle. He was never further south than Galashiels, though not for want of trying it has to be said.
It also made a perfect sledge for the cat, once we’d attached the straps, and it was on a cold January morning when we were sledging Church down The Devil’s Landslide, that we found the body.
Was the artwork for the tray you describe done by the racist bastard responsible for this outrage, I wonder?
http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t642/burtkocain/3bc3be02e64d4c1f70fff7f3cbe5b813229ba9a3_zpsezprxyzj.jpg
Oh! I just noticed the tray! Can you see it too, readers?
It may well have been H.P., although I have to say the natives knees were a bit muddier if I remember correctly, and I think the kilted fellow kept his bearskin on.
Incidentally, back in the 80s when I was a supermarket shelf-filler (or “Merchandiser” if you’re reading this on an ipad) Camp Chicory Essence was one of our three top “slow movers”, the other ones being tinned celery hearts and of course, pease pudding!
Camp “Coffee” is undrinkable (except in Scotland, where it is considered a sophisticated luxury).
Of course, the Scots invented the tray……
(…fetches coat…)
Of course, down here in England we have Extremely Camp Coffee, don’t we Jules?
And it’s not even camp. It’s “camp”. I think those finger-waggles should be around coffee, like “coffee”.
@hawkfall
Why did this post not get it’s due recognition?
I mentioned it yesterday on the inventions’ post. Had a good chuckle rereading it.
What an extraordinary coincidence – I’ve just bought a tray!!! Keep it under your hat, but this was so as to avoid dropping food on the rug while indulging in lunchtime Netflix binges. I rather like its funky combination of pink Formica and wickerwork. Best $10 I’ve ever spent in my opinion.
It was described by the seller as ‘vintage retro’. As I’m sure your readers know, this is a nonsense: vintage = old, retro = pretending to be old, and it can’t be both at once. It’s definitely vintage.
http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g401/mikethep/tray-si-bon_zpsuraotcm5.jpg
What a fantastic comment! “Tray” bien, Mike! Pink marble-or-something-effect Formica© and a traditional wicker-man edging – what can possibly go wrong?
I’ve been looking for some musical accompaniment, but I think you’ve exhausted the tray-related video possibilities. So here’s Eartha Kitt singing, as it might be, Tray Si Bon.
https://youtu.be/6BvL-i–8Ws
Here’s Trey Anastasio! I wonder what kind of tray *he* has at home?
My tray of choice would be the kind you get at motorway service stations.
The downfall of the ornate, defined-edge tray is when the edges become indelibly smeared by remnants of egg, cornflakes or porridge. The corners build up microscopic debris that eventually turns into general yukkiness that makes you want to walk into the sea.
Give it a wipe and put it away – that’s my motto.
One man’s motto is another’s Afterword T-shirt.
Ah, yes! The motorway caff tray. Sturdily and uncomplainingly ferrying nutrition to the table of the working man for decades.
Have an ‘up’ for Afterword t-shirt!@H.P.Saucecraft
@black-celebration
if you wish to keep the corners of your tray safe from the everyday detritus of breakfast etc. Then turn your tray over and place your accoutrements on what is now the upper surface (The surface previously known as the underside). No pesky corners for scrambled egg, porridge to lurk in leading to a build-up of bacteria.
It’s this type of information that you can only find at the Afterword! Thanks for the “tray talk”, Hubes!
Musical connections hmmm
Trays hombres by ZZ top
Duke Ellington’s Billy Trayhorn
The classic blues song Mystery Tray?
Come on, Junior. I know you’ve got a tray. Show us your tray. Go on. Take a photo and upload it to Traybucket and share it with us here.
When I was Conchita Martinez, I won the Wimbledon lawn tennis championship. The Duchess Of Kent presented me with a silver tray. Utterly useless, I was about to melt it down to make a pair of enormous hoopy earrings when they told me they needed it back..
Lovely tray story there, Sew! Isn’t that a page from all our diaries?
I do actually – silver deco one that was my mothers. But on matters of photo uploading I am but a traynee.
I have three trays: a small round one for my afternoon Dragon Pearl tea, a rectangular one with handles for my evening home alone meal and a square one for serving cocktails if I ever have guests.
I have no life.
Can’t do photos. Sorry.
Tig “Three Trays” Gerlion shall be your name from henceforth!
Do you think I’d be well advised to purchase one of the three distinct varieties you describe? I need to carry:
– Small teapot
– Milk jug
– Plate of toast or croissants
– Pot of marmalade
– Briquette of butter
– Cup and saucer
Although if I opt for another coffee with my breakfast, of course, the demands on the tray will be lessened. Can you help?
I think one will do for such *simple* needs. I’d opt for a two foot wide, one foot deep tray with handles. One that sits neatly across your knees and looks elegant on your out-door table. At your age, you don’t want to be attempting to carry it balanced with one hand underneath. That advice is true of most things, not just trays.
*makes notes*
Surely Tig ‘Tres Trays’ Gerlion
* See Basil below
I have a tray. I can do photos (I use Phototray). I am an extraordinarily well-rounded human being.
And you have braised arse cheeks.
That’s global warming for you.
The type of tray I covet is one of those with a bean bag attached to the bottom. Not only does it cushion the effect of frantic tv-dinnering from the knees, but it also helps stop your tea sliding onto the carpet.
A marvellous invention.
I understand this was a NASA byproduct – astronauts famously had trouble keeping their trays in their laps!
When I caught the train south from Aberdeen (farewell Scotland, hello London) in my right hand was a cage containing Cicero, King of Hamsters: on my back a rucksack containing two newly-ironed pairs of underpants (Mum ironed everything including Dad’s moustache), a pair of velvet loons and a tattered copy of Lord of the Rings. In my left hand – a rectangular tray with the immortal words “Haste Ye Back”.
Fast forward over forty years and HYB is still in daily use. I will attempt to post a photo -don’t hold your breath.
Who’d have thought that the humble tray played so pivotal – and yet unsung – roles in our lives? ‘Scuse me, Hen … got something in my eye …
I have seven trays, my top tray of choice being the one with fold down legs for in bed lap based culinary experiences.
Mm. Nice. But as attractive a piece of tray tech as that is, the fold-down legs would be superfluous in my situation (I already have my own). Photos, please, Afterworders!
The legs are essential. It’s not just food you know. You can have all sort happening on the tray as you lie in bed. You name it. It can and does happen.
Have given up on trays since I invariably drop them and cause another bloody mess. I still have a lovely oval lacquered one from Japan but it was largely decorative, could only ever place a couple of items on it. I then placed the coffee pot on it and there’s now a perfectly spherical burn mark. Adds to the design I think. Don’t go for a wood one then, a nice wipe clean plastic one which have grips for plates and cups. Practical over decorative.
This is good tray talk, Dodge, and I thank you for it!
You know, if you get burn marks on wood, you can get rid of them by placing a t shirt (or other flimsy cotton piece of clothing) above them and ironing the T-shirt. I did this once and it worked! However, it was a cheap dicky-boo table and not an expensive lacquered Japanese tray, so I accept no responsibility if you try it and take Mount Fuji’s snow off.
Thankyou, but best to leave well alone now, it’ll only end in tears.
Have you considered a tea trolley? Got to be plenty going cheap from all those tea ladies sacked over the years.
I have a vintage one, not retro @mikethep. It was owned by my Nana and currently has my stereo on it
Very good idea Junior. I had a vintage 70s hostess in the store room but mice got in and that was that, sadly. A trip to the tip ensued.
Really, Rob? Was it Marti Caine?
You might think so, @junior-wells, but tea-related memorabilia is a bit thin on the ground it seems. I visited 3 gigantic op shop barns today, of a size you could service an Airbus in, and not one tea strainer could I find in any of them. No call for them any more apparently.
I have one of these. Naturally.
https://flic.kr/p/sNvgeh
Dangling from your waistcoat, natch.
Come down to Victoria @mikethep far more civilised here – tea strainers aplenty.
*Hnnnngghh*
http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p773/minibreakfast/cat-litter-tray_zpsvtffnzda.jpg
Prudence insists on a flap door roof job.
I’d just like to say that photographs of cats taking a shit in a tray – very possibly in the kitchen – leave my Cute-O-Meter strangely untroubled.
*shudder*
Somehow a thread on Belle and Sebastian next to a thread on tea trays seems very appropriate.
None more rock n’ roll!
Some seed trays recently.
http://www.photo-host.org/images/2015/05/13/vn8kJ.jpg
Mine are burgeoning with green fecundity.
I see you bought the Ikea “Knobbi” seed-tray stand, Hubes!
I must go and purchase one forthwith, for I have no tray.
My shame is boundless.
Mike, when we’ve bought our trays, let’s post “selfies” of them here!
This is how one views a tray in one’s mansion these days.
https://flic.kr/p/sNBg8X
Is that a tray or a space age bowler hat?
We had a butler when I was a child. Pasty faced chap. Slightly morbid. Sweated a lot and like serving cold baked beans with the salad.
There must be an IKEA nearby you could visit. They have an impressive range at reasonable prices. We have one from there which I use to lay my delicacies on when presenting them to my good lady. The retro geometric pattern sets off my sweet offerings to great effect. Women really appreciate it if you make a bit of effort when displaying your morsels.
Except they call it Serveware. I fancy a OMVÄXLANDE myself.
http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/categories/departments/eating/16048/
Not sure what my serveware was called. Plonka or some such name.
One of the reasons I chose to live beyond the perimeter of civilisation as you know it was NO IKEA within 500 miles. Sourcing my tray leaves me few options; I may have to “buy as I find”.
It won’t be long before you wake up to the sight of a massive, dirty great blue aluminium shed outside your home, mark my words. The growth of this retail phenomenon is inexorable.
If Ikea were selling ready-made furniture they might stand a chance. Thai people don’t see the sense of buying something they’ve got to build before they can use it. That’s work, and who’s paying them? Also, that chic Scandinavian minimalism means less than zero to the Thai. They want hideously uncomfortable furniture in really heavy, stickily-varnished wood with lots of florid upholstery that looks like it might be found in a Royal Anteroom. And when they’ve got it, they’ll go outside and sit on the ground. And be happy!
Their flat pack trays are a devil to assemble it’s true. Ours does tend to slope a little which can get messy.
I have been wracking my brains to come up with a song that mentions trays. The best I can do is this. The lady sings “tray tray tray” at about 23 seconds.
How about this from a bunged-up Ricky Martin? Where do you want those “second-class returns to Dottingham”? , Ricky? On dose trays, you say? Next to the Tunes methols?
(see also Basil below)
TUUUUUUUUUUNESAH!
A very nice young man in a tuxedo gave me a Milk Tray in 1972. I suspect it’s a coffee cream. I still have it. It smells faintly of patchouli oil.
Milk Tray? Parkour before its time
All this talk of trays just makes me think of Eddie Izzard’s ‘Death Star canteen’.
“You’ll need a tray’
Oh, I see, the food is hot. I thought you were challenging me to a fight to the death.
My pride and joy is my Palanquin. Perfect for going down the shops, but be sure to phone ahead if going popping into Waitrose.
http://i1302.photobucket.com/albums/ag126/astralcat379/images_zps0zb31f8a.jpg
They have spaces near the door for those – Parent & Child, Disabled and Palanquin users only.
I said *tray*, Rob, not *gay*. Which is what your palanquin is. Notthattheresanythingwrongwithtthat.
You love it really. You want one. You’re seething with envy…..
I hate those trays with the cushions underneath them. My in-laws have those. They also have useless trays that are about a cup wide and just too long to carry comfortably. I think my mother in-law just buys them to lay about on the worktops to stop things leaving rings. A worktop on the worktop so to speak.
Philosophically speaking, a coaster is a small tray. Never thought of that before. Never will again.
Brilliant observation there, Rob! And “a coaster is a small tray” desreves memorialising on an Afterword T-shirt.
Nonsense. A coaster is a very small placemat. A small tray is just a tray that is small.
Bollox. Can you carry a things on it, say a biscuit, or a samosa, or stash tin accoutrements ? Of course you can. Therefore it serves as a small tray ipso facto it actually is a small tray.
(In the interests of blog harmony, I will conceded that it is BOTH a small tray and a small placemat)
I’ve given this matter some thought. Initially I thought Rob had a stroke of intuition akin to that of the Buddha’s – forcing us to “re-imagine” (finger-waggle) not only the embedded meme of the “ur-tray” but also our attitudes to tableware in general. Then Mrs B swans in, flicking her feather duster in a no-nonsense way, and sets us all straight with her rigorously Cartesian logic. “A small tray is just a tray that is small,” she says, and there it must rest.
*returns feather duster to cabinet*
Hope you haven’t put it next to the colanders mentioned on another thread, or I fear @moose-the-mooche might come over all unnecessary.
Dude, I’m in that cabinet.
hurrrr
One of our cats likes to sleep on an upside down cushion tray. She thinks it’s a cat cushion.
Everything is a potential cat cushion, as far as the cat is concerned.
Except for an actual cat cushion.
Very true. Cats prefer cardboard boxes, though if you sold them as cat beds, they wouldn’t use them.
A selection of cat-in-a-box pics:
http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p773/minibreakfast/dottie20amazon20box203_zpstvqrvnno.jpg
http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p773/minibreakfast/DSCN0074_zpsmnrwamwi.jpg
http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p773/minibreakfast/003206_zpsirjpp9w6.jpg
http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p773/minibreakfast/dottiebootsale001_zps3adfa1c4.jpg
http://i1350.photobucket.com/albums/p773/minibreakfast/dottie0013_zps62110eec.jpg
I wouldn’t have believed the cat-in-a-box-of-tissues, but one of our terriers used to get into a cornflake box, back end first. . .
The only box I want to see a cat in is a pine one, with little gilt handles.
*removes key to feather duster cabinet from belt loop*
*massages circulation into buttocks in preparation, as afterthought knocks over Mrs B’s inkwell*
It seems impossible, but we’ve got this far with no mention of that paragon, that sans-pareil of tray-wielders, Mrs Overall. She knows a thing or two about trays.
As does Basil. Just don’t put too many donkeys on your tray.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-oH-TELcLE
Trays were important on the Death star.
If a coaster is a small tray is a tray a large coaster?
No! That’s like saying … that’s like saying …unnnh … *head implodes*
Well observed. Indeed it is. You can carry huge fuck off mugs of tea on them.
We have a dozen identical trays. My wife previously worked for a chap who had the idea of selling advertising space on trays in cafes, so he created some mock ups with ads that his kids had designed. When they (mystifyingly…) failed to take off, he was left with a load of samples, and we gleefully took some off his hands. They do add a classy touch to meal times.
Twelve Trays laughs at Rob “Seven Trays” C. Poor old Tigger is left in the dust. Three Trays … once a proud boast, now a shameful confession of human inadequacy.
Mine is still bigger than yours!
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/GCU_Grey_Area/Photo-on-2015-05-13-at-08.22_zpsuxm938am.jpg
http://www.trayface.org is full of photos of people putting trays in front of their faces, for no satisfactory reason. We were left the silver-plated tray in a will, but lacking the decanter and sherry glasses we suspect it needs, we prop it up and put candles in front of it, watching the reflections dance for several minutes at a time.
Can I just add that this has been one of the most bonkers threads on this site for a while, and all the better for it.
It’s quite simple. We are all trays. We carry our ingrained belief Brevilles Man System muse mind toasted head fuck sarnies. Have a bite. Exactly. I’m so depressed and anxious that I had a waking dream in which I was sharing a bivouac with Keith Emmerson. I assume it was in the congo because of his facial tribal stripes, kindness and the humidity ( I’m not good at identifying mamalian tree screeching – I started to loose the Astral Connection at the point. Anyway, wanting to dive into the nearest hole I see and cease to exist aside, I can honestly say that crumpets make you think.
Clear Your Tray. Sweep The Contents Away. Another Day Free Tray. That surprise you get when a B & B / Hotel breakfast that fits your mind should I bother quite nice actually. Triangles and refills. All is well. For now, but not necessarily afterwards.
A coaster, printed with what I must assume is one of Prince Charles’ ‘Black Spider Memoes’.
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/GCU_Grey_Area/bum_coaster__49883.1411718739.250.250_zpslmfcpk1j.jpg
I Shit Geometrics (TMFTL)
If I wasn’t dicking about on my phone I’d post a big, pop-punky slice of drumming from noted tray enthusiast Tre “Tray” Cool of Green Day. But I am, so I can’t.
Must tray harder.
We had an Edinburgh office. The office manager had a wonderful accent. He would say “here” as “hair”, “so” as “say” and “try” as “tray”.
As an aged relative of Mrs Moose used to say, “Eambruh doesn’t hevv an erksent!”
I made a tray once, in Woodwork. I was about 13 or 14 at the time.
It looked a bit like this one, only not quite so accomplished, but my Mum liked it.
http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/r674/Clennam/PineTray1_zps67aku5bf.jpg
Hmm. It’s a good tray. Something of a classic (although crumbs will catch in the joins as sure as eggs are eggs.) But I reckon “Adorn Event Hire” looks pretty shoddy. What kind of event needs a tray like this? A prison wedding?
I made this pencil case in woodwork, c.1971. I now use it to keep pencils in.
http://i1060.photobucket.com/albums/t449/GCU_Grey_Area/IMG_0201-1_zpseulefqqb.jpg
I love the stark contrast between the inept rusticity of the pencil box and the sleek, cool perfection of the Mac wireless keyboard.
It’s got a number pad, so not wireless. Just saying.
Yup. ‘Tis a wired one.
I was only 11 when I made it . . .
Extraordinary achievement, to make a Mac keyboard at such a tender age!
Why buy, when you can rent.
http://www.rentatray.com
There was a problem loading this page, Hubes. Hmm …
My dear fellow @h-p-saucecraft, apologies for being unable to load the page.
Take comfort in the fact you now own your own shiny tray (melamine[copyright] I am sure it will be a talking point in your home, and I hope we can have photo-visual proof of it some time soon.
Well, I don’t know … I’m kind of busy right now, hammering that link, trying to load the page. I’m sure it’s just a temporary “outage” as our American friends so irritatingly put it, so I’m going to stay up tonight, clicking away. A Rent-A-Tray site is something I’ve always wanted to see. Not going to miss this chance. That’s not the type of guy I am. Anyway – ‘scuse me – got to get clicking!
From eighties pop titans Mel & Kim, ‘Re-spec-ta-bawl’
After 3 everyone: “Tray, tray, tray, tray, tr-tr-tr-tra- tra- tray, tray…”
https://youtu.be/hFYFj5q8_Qk
It’s a shame about t’ray
We have trays with a kind of beanbag underneath so that they settle comfortably on your knees as you eat your gourmet Pop Tarts with silver cutlery.
Ergonomic as fuck.
Surprised nobody posted this before.
My wife bought me a beanbag tray similar to this one (I’m not going to post a picture of the actual tray in case you can trace where I live) from a market stall in Machynlleth:
It’s a snug fit, very functional and, if you like guitars, nice to look at.
The amazon link makes this look like an attractive and durable home accessory! The reviews are uplifting, too:
“This is a useful item as well as being well received by my son who loved it.”
F.F.S.
(Machynlleth, eh? Used to speed through there in the family Triumph Herald on the way to Aberdovey summer hols.)
Meanwhile, I would be pedalling fast in my yellow Ford Anglia on the way to Ynyslas for a frolic in the dunes.
And, to this day, we sometimes enjoy a happy lunch in The Dovey pub in, um, Aberdovey . . . my wife and her mother will be having a boring stay there later in the year! Is it you that carved Burt woz here in the table by the door? And have you ever visited Fairbourne when there’s something to do?
Our pub of choice in Aberdovey was always the Brit. There used to be a fantastic book/paper/toy shop from whence I stole The Kama Sutra (paperback, 1st thus, some staining) which made no sense at all to me then. Nor now, probably.
Fairborne? Nah.
As a youngster my mum nearly bought the Kama Sutra at a railway station. She chickened out and got the Jimmy Young Cookbook.
People only buy the Jimmy Young Cookbook for the pictures.
Mike Drop Schmike Drop. For a really dramatic effect, you can’t beat a tray drop:
http://youtu.be/qlu34oln5sk
Excellent! The Tray Drop has been a staple of visual comedy since the old Mac Sennet two-reelers.
Here’s a great clip of a ciné-verité Tray Drop! Uh-oh, Joey Pants – watch out!
Well, I finally did it.
Bought a tray.
It was quite easy, actually. Yes, my pulse was hammering. Sweat stinging my eyes. Hands trembling as I opened my wallet. Mouth strangely dry. But – when I took the bag, felt the reassuring weight of the Melamine©, I realised that it was … simply … mine. The tray was mine. I’D DONE IT! I couldn’t stop a little yelp of triumph escaping my throat.
I’ve never felt so alive.
More later …
Once you had dreams, and it’s now come to this ! Me too, I get excited by as good hardware shop. Post a photo in due course.
Photos aplenty coming up! I want to show my new tray at its best; setting and lighting are so important. Then there’s the vexed question of empty or “at work”? Will loading my tray only serve to distract the eye?
Loaded, in empty decorative state and also post spillage having tripped on step (if that’s appropriate).
Très, très bon!
Actually…are trays really all they’re cracked up to be?
Just sayin’
Nope. They’re just the void staring back at you – a flat endless chasm of nothingness where everything you ever dreamed ceases to exist, and there is no cup-a-soup to be found and never was.
True. It promises so much just by being a tray. What is going to be on there? An empty tray seems to laugh with a penetrating cruelty. Where is my treat? Where is my reward? Answer me!
It mocks you with coquettish sadistry.
Rob, Rob. There are always plenty of folk worse off than you. When I’m feeling a little low, I like to think of Tigger’s hypothetical old lady with cancer on life support who gets run over by a blazing radioactive Amtrak container train. That always brings a smile to my lips!
Yes but that selfish chuckle would enter the fabric of the cosmic ether, and plant a bad karmic seed in my Akashic window box.
Why don’t you clean and range your trays? Plenty of people don’t have as many nice trays as you.
I have a question that has been troubling me ever since this wonderful thread got going. Outside I have a scrap piece of plywood. It is rectangular, about 50cm long by 30cm wide. To all intents and purposes this a tray, right? Or is it? I so want to bring that wood inside and give it life and meaning, but would this be a be-tray-al of the ancient and distinguished traditions of tray making?
We have to wait for Mrs B, the Oracle of the Afterword, to settle this one, but I’d suggest if you used it as a tray – a purpose for which it seems ideal – then it would assume the mantle of trayness, and become a tray, in a kind of alchemical transmutation. It will have been kissed by the breath of God, raised from the dead to become a vibrant member of your domestic entourage. You would find yourself asking Mrs Hairnet things like “have you seen our tray, darling?”, referring quite naturally and unconsciously to what had heretofore been just a nameless, purposeless bit of plywood.
I suggest you effect the transformation, and post a picture here that will consolidate its status and new life!
Sounds good to me. I think you have to give it a varnish and handles, then it will definitely be a tray. I don’t agree with this coaster being a tray nonesense myself. A tray is a bespoke platform designed to aid the transport of comestibles or drinks, whilst displaying them for all to see. A coaster merely protects a surface from being burnt. You, sir, have a potential tray on your hands but, currently, it is merely a piece of wood. As you say, you need to give it life.
Careful now! What you have there is a place mat. Your true tray has a raised rim round the edge to stop things sliding off.
It’s very dangerous to use a place mat as a tray, especially at sea. In fact it was one of the stewards on the Titanic who mistakenly put some drinks on a mat, leading to a minor incident with an ice cube which frankly got blown up out of all proportion in the movie.
Trayspotters’ Rule of thumb – there’s a rim in the way, it’s a tray. If it’s flat it’s a mat.
Chiz – that brings back so many memories! My Grandad (father’s side) used to be foreman at Arkwright’s Tray And Mat Works, up in Cumberbatch before the wars. The company “motto” (no mission statements in them days!) was “A rim you see, then tray it be. If tray is flat, then it’s a mat.” When war broke out, the factory was turned over to making tin hats for the brave lads on the front line. Early production runs still had “BOVRIL” clearly visible, leading to squaddies being nicknamed “the Bovril Boys”. Happy days!
Are handles essential tray anatomy? I’m not so sure. Surely a gently tapering edge, providing comfortable purchase for a range of finger sizes, is a better solution.
I was presuming we were starting with a scrap piece of wood. Rims are tricky & take some skill to develop. Handles are easy.
Naturally, I prefer a tray with a rim and I’m flexible about handles.
But what about the fings what ‘old the ceeendles?
Nails!!!
So is a tray essentially nothing more than a shallow box? Put a lid on it and you could use it for storing other, smaller trays. Or is it it something more?
A tray for mine is defined by the purpose to which it is put. some things are dedicated trays, others are trays at the time they are being used as a tray but after no longer being applied to that purpose they lose that title.
A robust newspaper can be a tray when used for a certain purpose ,say rolling a spliff on -if the components of the spliff are carried (I think there needs to be some degree of transport involved or at least the potential for transport. But once the spliff is rolled and the leftovers flicked behind the couch then the newspaper reverts to being a newspaper. I think Burt’s ,sorry HP’s thread should have been “I am thinking of buying an object that is designed and will be dedicated solely to the purpose of transporting by hand everyday household items about the house”.
An unusually reflective comment from you here, Junior, and it does you credit. You’re talking bollocks, though. Mrs B would tell you that “a newspaper is a newspaper, whatever you use it for, you daft twat.”
Thanks…..errr I think.
If I use a tray as, say, a ramp for the dog to reach its kennel is it still a tray?
The car tyre suspended for a bough – is it a tyre or a swing?
from a bough,
…..gad I hate not being able to edit posts.
We have to make distinctions in language in order for society to function. These distinctions are often subtle and subject to change. But a tray, designed and manufactured with recognisably tray-centric parameters, will remain – in its Buddha-essence – a tray, whether used as a kennel ramp, or in poor, dear Caro’s sad case, a localised flooring substitute, or indeed *as a tray*.
If we can go back to Mr Hairnet’s piece of ply, this is a tray in all but applied function. Its size, shape and material is that of a tray. He only has to carry, say, a plate of Custard Creams from his pokey little galley kitchen into what he laughably insists on calling “the lounge” for its trayness to be unequivocal. Yes, his wife may utter something like “that’s a crap tray, Martin – have we nothing better for the Vicar?” but its TRAYNESS would be unquestioned. Mr Hairnet could then spend an enjoyable weekend in the shed trying to ignore the box of old “Oui” magazines (cunningly marked “SOME OLD TINS IN HERE – REALLY” in shaky Magic Marker) creating the Ideal Tray from this unpromising piece of lumber – adding decorative handles, perhaps off a cat’s coffin, and maybe fashioning an edge out of splintery old bits of picture frame which don’t quite fit. My point is that no amount of time spent in a shed with an old newspaper would transform it into a tray. Oh, hang on. Maybe you could layer it with other newspapers, soak them in mucilage overnight and leave to dry, creating a rigid platform which you could then varnish. I’d suggest four coats of marine polyurethane gloss, sanded down between each coat, finishing with a coat of matt to add texture (or GF or Grip Factor as we traymakers call it). Handles? Why not use a short loop of rough twine through holes drilled at each end, knotted beneath? Et voila, Mr Junior – not only a very practical household tray, but also a talking point for years to come!
You’ve completely screwed the formatting HP.I need to have some lunch before I can reply -though if my response precedes yours is it still a reply?
Questions questions as Frank would say.
The Oracle (or Mrs O, for short) speaks:
“Wot he said ^^^.”
My Secret Tray Confession – I have a tray on the floor that I always put my feet on when I sit down in the kitchen. It is a wood-effect tray so it blends into the wood-effect lino. There is a reason for this but it is too boring to go into. Who knew I would ever get the chance to air this on an AW thread? Thank you Mr Saucy, I feel so much better for sharing.
Come on. Fess up.
That’s no tray.
IT IS A HOVERBOARD!
My Tray Shame 🙂
(Have you ever eaten a Fray Bentos pie off it?)
You’re missing the point.
Carolina, whom I suspect of being in league with the Chinese government, is clearly in possession of the kind of terrifyingly advanced technology only seen in Back to the Future II. Is she also wearing her jeans inside-out?
I’m submitting my FOI request toot sweet.
It might just be that caro’s feet don’t quite reach the floor, so needing a tray to bridge the gap.
I have this problem standing up.
Haha! My feet do actually reach the ground, I’m not in league with the Chinese government (though that sounds like a plan). I never wear jeans, inside or out. May well have eaten a Fray Bentos pie off it as tray looks like it was bought in the 70’s. The truth is I previously had a wood veneered floor and after one too many washing machine flood incidents it was replaced by lino, which couldn’t be ruined. Then due to the lino being spongier, and my spine shifting in position minutely, sitting down started injuring my coccyx. Lino-Related Coccyx Injury is probably something only I have ever have been affected by! Anyway it was very painful, lasted ages and since recovering I’ve taken to using a tray to mimic the previous hard flooring. A bit mad I know!
Mad? Of course not, Caro! I’m sure each of us has, er, at some time … (*backs slowly away, looking for help*)
From The Goon Show, Minnie Bannister describing Ned Seagoon to PC Willium:
Min: “Well, he has a pair of legs that don’t reach the ground”
Willium: “So, we’re lookin’ for a lad with a space underneath!”
http://i1318.photobucket.com/albums/t642/burtkocain/P5150005_zpsqvxu6ti5.jpg
Is that a selfie HP? You’re different to how I imagined.
You didn’t think I was the cutest thing on the planet?
*adorable disappointed face*
Your coat is lovely and glossy.
Thank you. *simper*.
What a dog’s breakfast. Oh-ho-ho!
Look on nuclear strength cuteness and be afraid, Mrs B. Your cat is an amateur at this sort of thing – selfconscious, insincere, and cynically manipulative. My dog is the true blinding godhead of cuteness, of which feline “cuteness” is but a shabby simulacrum.
That is a super tray! Looks like it was designed in a wind tunnel by Aérospatiale-BAC, presumably for minimising drag between kitchen and patio. Lovely colours too. Like the seat upholstery of a BOAC VC10 in 1972.
I’m thrilled my tray has “gone viral”! I’ll post a series of photographic studies of diminishing interest until every shred of good will I’ve accrued throughout this exhausting thread has turned to bitter ash and I am shunned by my own peers.
Consider this: add a couple of speakers to each ‘wing’ of your tray, incorporate bluetooth functionality, and tray presto! Now you can listen to music while engaging in all your favourite tray related activities. Patent pending.
Stickman appears to walking across your sky
Er…you forgot a cup for the dog. Handsome tray, though – and with those subtly engineered curves you could play blow football when not imbibing. Interesting contribution to the handle/no handle debate too.
Er … the cup is for the dog. Yes, I’m pleased with my tray. Effortlessly practical, technologically state-of-the-art, with a durable wipe-kleen surface that says “YES!” to no unhygenic build-up. The design has a definite vintage-retro feel, don’t you think? The blow football possibilities are haunting me, though. Handles as goals – marvellous!
Yes to no unhygienic buildup
As opposed to No to unhygienic buildup
Or yes to hygenic buildup. “Say YES! to no grease!” was a fifties ad slogan for Brylcreem or something.
aaah
I’m thinking of buying a teapot,
yours HP looks the bees bollocks.
Tell me where can I purchase one like yours.
It is a fantastic teapot, Hubes. I bought it from the Indo-China market in Mukdahan, on a stall where they had lots of “seconds”. The maker’s mark is Indra, if that’s any help. I bought some Whittard’s (Of Chelsea) plates and mugs there, in very similar colours. The whole lot cost about five of your UK dollars. The cup is bone china (tea tastes best from bone china). I understand the children responsible for producing the marginally sub-standard product have been shot in front of their families. Harsh but fair.
I am totally with you on the bone china issue – I only ever drink tea/coffee out of them – but they always have cat pictures on it.
Does this remind you of a certain thread?!
By the way I would be willing to make an exception to my cat-only cup policy if you could rustle up a china cup with your dog on it. Very adorable.
Trying again with the image posting!
http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll19/c48lina/P1030716_zpsz6tvnjfk.jpg
This makes me realise I’ve never seen a cat’s penis. Are they as prehensile and furry and unfeasibly huge as rendered on your mug?
I thought that was a tail!! Can’t knowledgeably comment as the only tomcat I ever owned had “the op” early on.
“I thought that was a tail!”
*rolls eyes*
HP – your writing on this thread has been simply magnificent. Ever thought of publishing a book?
Yes! I’m just finishing one, actually. I think it’s a bit edgy, a bit oo-er, but may just be the publishing sensation of our generation! What’s it about? When literature student Anastasia Steele goes to interview young entrepreneur Christian Grey, she encounters a man who is beautiful, brilliant, and intimidating. The unworldly, innocent Ana is startled to realize she wants this man and, despite his enigmatic reserve, finds she is desperate to get close to him. Unable to resist Ana’s quiet beauty, wit, and independent spirit, Grey admits he wants her, too—but on his own terms. Yes, there will be lashings(!) of sex. I’m calling it Fifty Shades Of Grey (a clever play on words – the hero/villain’s name is GREY!). I’m a bit out of touch out here, but I think that’s helped in coming up with something original and even “genre-defining”. It’s taken me nearly fifve years so far, and I reckon in another six month’s it’ll be finished. Wish me luck!
I for one would buy it! Well, I wouldn’t actually buy it but as soon as it made it to Pirate Bay…
Very practical looking and with a hint of 60s retro H.P, but honestly there’s a colour clash with the teapot. Just being nosy, is that Laos in the distance ?
Those colours may clash to a Western eye, but out here they’re nuanced to the point of camouflage. Yes, that’s Lao PDR over the river. The clump of trees at left (just under the banana tree branch) is the home of The Man Who Drank His House. There used to be quite a fine old teak house there, built up on stilts in the Thai way, but the drunkard who lived there sold it for the value of the wood (quite high these days – most new houses are brick-n’-concrete). This was like winning the lottery for the mad bastard. He hired a stage and a sound system and some baffled dancers, got all his mates round (not that many) and drank the proceeds. It took a week, but he managed it. Now he sleeps in a shack a dog would avoid in a thunderstorm. I can see his fire at night, the mad twat.
“Twinkle, twinkle, little bat!
How I wonder what you’re at!
Up above the world you fly,
Like a tea tray in the sky.
Twinkle, twinkle, little bat!
How I wonder what you’re at!”
Trays In Literature! What a rich vein there is to be mined here! There’s … well … there’s the Lewis Carroll ode quoted above, and there’s … and … that’s just for starters!
How about a musical thread? Trays as a subject for songs is probably rather too broad. Maybe songs from Latin America that reference trays would be a suitable starting point, possibly restricted to the 80s only?
Mm. Nice. Can anyone find a link to Luis Zapata’s “Quiero Darle A Usted Mi Bandeja”? This was a big hit in Venezuela mid ‘eighties. Duco turned me on to this.
I’m worried about your proximity to that river H. P., but I’m sure your new tray will display excellent buoyancy characteristics in the event of a flood.
Latin America song about a tray? My pleasure!
http://youtu.be/fMWHouKbid0
Charola is Spanish for tray.
Excellent, K! “Charola de plata” means “tray of plates”. The story tells of a young Andalucian waiter who vows to give his inamorata “a tray of plates as big as the moon”.
According to the internet, there is a really famous rap type bloke called Trey Songz. Trey Songz. He’s even released a song with J-Lo! Would you like to meet him?
This makes me feel strangely incomplete as a person.
Come upstairs, and see my lithographs.
Do I get a laminate?
Tray songs:
No Room fo the $uga
Rim in the way
Mat? F**k that!
The Overload
Le Clique – Tray Chic
Thanks for this late but admirably thought-out comment, Mr Bald. Any time you want to tell us how your head got scythed open and then stapled shut …
I had a run-in with a neurosurgeon, @h-p-saucecraft, just over two years ago.
It turned out pretty well, really – we’re still in touch (I’m visiting him next month), and Forks calls me Zippy, which is the second-least insulting nickname I’ve ever had.
After this “run-in” – did he look worse than you?
That depends on your terms of reference.
Shorter? Certainly. More rotund? Indeed. He was, however, considerably less bruised about the head, and had no apparent stapling.
I’d call it a draw.
Result.
And apologies for the late contribution. I’ve been a bit busy washing my hair.
You’re on the right track about charola de plata, HP.
Whereas in England some of us are born with a silver spoon in our mouths, in Mexico, they are born with a silver tray. Not I presume in their mouths, unless they have gigantic gobs.
Ahhhh … so, if I understand correctly, Riva Del Plata means “river of trays”. Learning is a wonderful thing!
this thread is now so huge that the tray-related music I am about to propose may well be earlier on buried somewhere. On the assumption it isn’t then surely what lies in the middle of the Tray/Popular Music Venn Diagram is The Pogues, specifically Spider Stacey’s unique take on percussion during Sally Maclennane. Though I can find no video footage, a sweaty gig at Oxford Poly around 1985 puts me as an eyewitness able to confirm his head-smashing tray-related antics.
Interesting. That’s all.
What did I mean by that?
This haunts me.
https://youtu.be/fw26fLW_gg4
I see moosey resurrected this post in June.
It died a death, at this time of year when the dead walk perhaps it’s time to try again.
It’s tray time.
Tray bon.
Classic HP. The guy who would thrive with a creative writing task on the most obtuse, bland or unintereesting topic, making something out of nothing. Quite a talent that.
I think the real talents are the people who pick his balls up and run with them. Just sayin’.
Now that I find myself in the twilight of my autumn 🍂 my thoughts turn to those niggly things in life.
Specifically the carrying upstairs of two cups of tea 🍵 in the morning to imbibe whilst lying in bed, the tray i use is of the melamine variety and I find the cups slide and spill tea in the tray, it made me wonder why the trays have such a low friction ratio between themselves and the cups. I have tried kitchen roll which has gone some way to solve the problem.
I wondered if our resident tray supremo could suggest a better alternative, or if anyone had any better suggestions.
Thanks for calling the Tray Hotline, Hubes! The problem of slippy-slidey cups and whatnot is one shared by many tray enthusiasts, and lively debates on the topic have ensued at our Tray Club gatherings! Some swear by sanding off the gloss, while others, keen to retain the silky finish of that much-loved tray, suggest Velcro© patches (available at the household goods counter of your local departmental store). There is always a hard core of Tray Enthusiasts which relishes the challenge of balancing a tray’s contents, and eschew “artificial” solutions that “compromise the purity and integrity of the tray experience”!
Whichever solution you come to adopt (and as ever, bold experimentalism is the key to getting the most out of that treasured tray!) have fun and if at first you don’t succeed, “tray, tray, and tray again”!
Trayly yours –
The Editors, Tray And Shelf Monthly
You need either a tray made with a non-slip surface, or a non-slip sheet on the existing tray, between the tray and the cup.. Wilkinsons, Argos, Lakeland or B&M should be able to oblige, or an independent vendor. I’m convinced they’re a major contribution to beverage safety. . .
Thank you both for your suggestions however I have found this site which is crowdfunding their marvellous invention KlippaKupp. It solves all those problems of slippage by clamping your cups to the tray.
Maybe the Editors of Tray and Shelf Monthly incorporating Coaster bi-monthly would like to check their site out at http://www.KlippaKupp.com
I am coaster-curious.
That was a triumph of the prosaic that thread.
My suggestion Hubert is bung it in a thermos and pour at higher altitude.
The problem, much as I love your idea, is that I have proper tea (all proper tea is theft) and my dlw drinks rooibos. This would necessitate two thermos flasks which have a higher centre of gravity, because of my shoogly leg my ascension of the stairs is in some way impaired which would cause the thermos flasks to tumble from the tray.
Or are you suggesting abandoning the tray altogether Junes?
Junes, hmmm I “tolerate” H.P. but only becoz he can’t be put off.
Well once the thermos came to mind the tray was otiose.
Re the roibos, I have a suggestion, boil the water, warm the cup, let the leaves steep then chuck the lot in the bin. So now you are back to one thermos that should fit in a pocket of your dressing gown.
Sorry Junior.
As it seems to be the time to resurrect old threads I thought it opportune to reopen this discussion on the joys of trays. Why now you ask?
It appears there are some chilly Olympics on at the moment where some intrepid trailblazers are hurtling down frozen chutes resting on what can only be described as a tray. Making no bones about it I give you the Skeleton.
https://flic.kr/p/2rWnMwL
Why not make your own by attaching two steak knives to the underside of a melamine tray (superglue would probably be the best, flour and water not as much) and hurtle down an icy incline.?
Bon voyage or as they say in Italy buon viaggio.
Or, if you will, intrepid TRAYlblazers!
If you think the skeleton is a good use for a tray, check out the double luge, where you have two people lying on there backs on a tray going down a hill. I asked Mrs. Paws if she’d like to try this on our stairs, but she reminded me it wasn’t my birthday yet so no dice. As an aside, we have two trays in our household- a metal one with a retro advert for marmite and a wooden one, but not one of those padded ones.
One of padded ones has sprung a leak and small polystyrene balls keep appearing from under the furniture.
Yesterday, at the Winter Olympics:
“Excuse me…is this the right way to the Skeleton tournament?”
“I wouldn’t know – I’m a tobogganist.”
“In that case I’ll have 20 B&H, please”
At the Summer Olympics
“Are you a Pole Vaulter?”
“No, I’m German. How do you know my name?”