Musings on the byways of popular culture
12/10/2021 by bang em in bingham 33 Comments
12/10/2021 at 19:41
That’s sad news. What a legacy though. With so much to choose from I’m sure he’d want to be remembered with a smile and a dram.
This gem comes to mind.
12/10/2021 at 20:16
He was more than just a trad folkie, he was interested to try anything musical. Here he is with Johnny ‘Guitar’ Watson and some Tuvan throat singers at Frank Zappa’s house in 1993.
12/10/2021 at 21:09
What a party that must have been! Remarkable that that clip exists at all.
A useful comment on YT.
“This is Matt Groening’s 39th birthday party. He’s in there, along with Beverly D’Angelo.”
Moose the Mooche says
13/10/2021 at 19:27
So PM was what links Frank Zappa and Van Morrison with Stanley Kubrick and, therefore, Leonard Rossiter.
12/10/2021 at 20:37
I don’t even think he was that much of a trad folkie. Sure, born and bred into and from that tradition, but always a bit of a a mr showbiz, with a brilliant “who me” about him. And fair play. Introduced me to hearing uillean pipes, even if I was never then much enamoured of the Chieftains.
12/10/2021 at 21:22
I probably wouldn’t have come across Paddy Moloney as a young teen, but for this, from 7:12
All the love of Davy Spillane, Mike McGoldrick et al followed from this.
Arthur Cowslip says
13/10/2021 at 20:45
Yeah me too. Probably everything I love about any kind of folk/trad music stems originally from my love of this.
Junior Wells says
12/10/2021 at 22:23
An Irish friend commented that the album the Chieftains did with Van Morrison. He contended that the Chieftains were essentially Catholic whereas Van came from an Orangeman background.
13/10/2021 at 05:22
There’s an odd bit in I’ll Tell me Ma where the Chieftans throw in a few bars of The Sash My Father Wore – not exactly the sort of tune one might expect to find lurking in a papist ‘s album collection
RIP Paddy, btw.
13/10/2021 at 05:43
The tune used for ‘The Sash’ is an old Irish melody, in some versions called ‘Irish Molly O’. As such, it doesn’t belong to any ‘tradition’ in Ireland. Over the years various sets of lyrics have been set to the tune, ‘The Sash’ just being the best known (around here anyway).
18/10/2021 at 21:17
Chieftains multi-instrumentalist Derek Bell was brought up in the Protestant faith, but became a Buddhist.
13/10/2021 at 06:36
I think ‘orangeman background’ is a tad harsh.
While affiliated to an Anglican church, Van’s dad was apparently an atheist while his mum a Jehovah’s Witness (as sung about/celebrated in Wavelength’s Kingdom Hall). Pretty sure he’s been quoted as referring to his folks as free thinkers.
Van himself always seems to have steered well clear of sectarian issues.
13/10/2021 at 06:37
Lodestone of Wrongness says
13/10/2021 at 07:48
I agree with Jaygee
13/10/2021 at 07:50
13/10/2021 at 07:51
13/10/2021 at 09:45
Van was an active JW member at least for a while in the early 80s, think L Ron Hubbard got a namecheck on one album.
13/10/2021 at 11:03
I think you mean Scientology (Bare-faced Messiah, Hubbard, gets a dedication on Inarticulate Speech of the Heart). The JW’s were founded by Charles Taze Russell
13/10/2021 at 11:15
Oops, yes. Was very early here @Jaygee and a protestant but as far as I know not an extreme one, despite recent shenanigans with Ian Paisley jr
13/10/2021 at 12:11
Or as he’s known here in the Republic, “that appalling gobshite, Ian Paisley Jr”
13/10/2021 at 12:27
VM’s tried everything hasn’t he? Has he got round to pastafarianism yet?
13/10/2021 at 18:17
I’ve always thought Van and Satanism might make a good fit.
13/10/2021 at 19:26
On recent form he’s well on his way there.
13/10/2021 at 09:03
I think this is what’s known as “doubling down”
13/10/2021 at 12:16
Sorry, missed that – can you say it again?
13/10/2021 at 18:14
If you get your arse in gear, gramps, they’re doing a two for one hearing aid offer at Specsavers.
GCU Grey Area says
13/10/2021 at 19:53
I think Lodey may have missed that, because you need a hyphen ‘ – ‘ between the words in a site member’s name, rather than an underscore ‘ _ ‘ to tag them.
13/10/2021 at 20:29
Sometimes it’s – and other times its _ . Have no idea why
If Lodey’s missed the two for one hearing aid offer, he’ll just have to do a Johnny Ray.
13/10/2021 at 20:39
I thought the hyphen was used here.
Try this. Often works.
‘ If we’re playing Beeching’s-1963 convention; ‘Embankment’.
Vulpes Vulpes says
13/10/2021 at 17:35
St. Peter’s ordered in extra Guinness for the bar up there. Thanks Paddy; they’ll be out on the pavement at Molloy’s in Westport tonight.
13/10/2021 at 22:26
And RIP, here’s a performance of Raglan Road, Van on (absolutely amazing) vocals and drums!
15/10/2021 at 10:42
That really is terrific.
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