Bamber’s thread on artists losing it made me think of all the greats of the 1960s and 70s who turned to shit in the 80s, mainly due to running out of songs and/or try and failing to adapt to new technologies and fashions. From Elton to Clapton, Rodders to poor old Bob, the list is huge, but there must be a few gems in their output from this decade. But what are they?
My pick is from Diana Ross’ patchy 1985 album Eaten Alive, wot I got at a car boot yesterday. It’s actually not that bad thanks to Bee Gees Inc., but far and away the best is the UK chart-topping Chain Reaction, which surprisingly tanked in the US, and unsurprisingly went to no. 1 in the Gibb brothers’ homeland.
What’s yours?

Since you’ve mentioned Elton John, how about this (I Guess That’s Why They Call It the Blues)?
I’m coming from the opposite angle on this thread – the songs here will probably be the first I heard by many of the artists as a kid. Should be an interesting read…
Oh, good one.
Btw, I’m a kid of the eighties too – it wasn’t until just a few years ago that I discovered the 70s output of Stevie Wonder and realised that stuff like I Just Called… and Ebony & Ivory were not representative of his talents.
Stevie’s an interesting one – IJCTSILY is bloody awful, but those two are certainly the first I remember hearing. Mum & Dad like their Motown so I got to hear older stuff not too long afterwards.
I have a bad habit of transposing time periods – Elton John was younger in that video than I am now – and his musical career at that point shorter than that of say the Manics or Blur is now. It’s interesting trying to detect a similar dip in form for some of the elder (ish) folk of rock today.
I think Elton is the absolute definition of “Brilliant in the 70s, pretty awful in the 80s”.
First half of the 70s anyway.
Sandwiched between the tragic ‘Tonight’ and the unspeakable ‘Never Let Me Down’ comes this utter beezer of a single…
Ah, Mr Bowie, I’ve been expecting you.
Great shout.
On the recent ipod shuffle soundtracked trip to North Carolina with my 81 year old mother, this was her favorite tune. She had me play Absolute Beginners about 10 times during the trip.
I’d like to nominate Dancing a With The Big Boys from Tonight. It is pleasingly loud and utterly bonkers. Best of all, against his religion, Carlos Alamar goes bezerk.
http://youtu.be/W1ETyGXVW8s
Yukkity horrid, that’s what that is. Tonight (album version) is a goodun though.
Percy….
80’s output and most of the 90’s output (inc face saving exercises with Pagey) total dirge.
This one stood out amongst the dross
Yes! It has that hollow, brittle 80s sound but still manages to give off a lovely, summery vibe.
Question: I wasn’t really paying attention to the lyrics – is he singing about his number twos?
Zappa had a very, very patchy 80s, but Moon’s turn on Valley Girl was brilliant. Indicates that he should have collaborated with people a bit more…
That’s the only Zappa song I know. I dare say it influenced this, from teen duo Tiny Masters of Today.
You only know one Zappa song. Every day you find a way to be more adorable. Let me corrupt you further.
Heard this for the first time in ages a few months back. Go on, have a listen to it, it’s actually a great song and performance.
Ah yes, written by Mark Knopfler I believe, with Jeff Back on geetar.
‘Beck’
ok…. Jeff Beck Back on guitar !
Written and demo’d for the Love Over Gold album. However, he couldn’t sing the ‘and the men are all the same’ line without inadvertently camping it up, so he gave it to MsTurner.
It’s a shame there’s never been any expanded versions of the DS albums – there must be plenty of material, Love Over gold was intended to be a double for example – here’s a demo from Making Movies
Speaking as someone with absolutely no direct involvement and with no clue about most things, I think that unlikely.
His interest in Straits is pretty much zero and his own self-editing of his material is very strict. It’s the solo stuff since ’96 that seems to matter most.
That’s top Pop Fact, Beezer!
Your darn tootin’ Mini B!
You’re. Not your.
I’m really enjoying this thread so far, so I’ve given myself a little upsie.
You’ll go blind!
Perhaps controversial as I’m not sure Ray ever really went to shit but this is the only thing from their 80s output that I recall being any good:-
Love it! Great vid, too.
Yeah top song.
Good call – great song.
“The day they tore down the Palais, my sister stood and cried”
This one’s pretty good too
My favourite Wilbury.
Mine too. Don’t know which one he was mind 🙂
Nelson Wilbury!
That one at the end of Time Bandits int bad.
Any decent Ringo records in the 80s? I have never heard anything between Scouse the Mouse* and Weight of the World (*no relation)
Yes it is quite good…not really sure why.
Can’t post a link right now, but Blind Willie McTell from Mr Zimmerman.
I’ll let someone else post that, as I’m only now up to 1980 and don’t want to spoil the surprise! 🙂
I like Dark Eyes off the awful Empire Burlesque (1985). It could have fitted nicely on Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.
How about Brownsville Girl from the even worse Knocked Out Loaded?
The ‘Oh Mercy’ period was a sure sign that Dylan”s shit 80s were at an end. Can’t believe he left this off the album:
I would nominate Neil Young at this point but I am struggling to think of one song he recorded in the eighties which is any cop at all.
🙂
Re: Neil Young – decent songs from the 80s?
Crime in the City? Hanging on a Limb? Someday? Wrecking ball?
Cor, a lot of his songs in the 80s had question marks after them, didn’t they?
Yes – all of these songs are from the album Freedom which came right at the end of the decade – at the fag end of 1989. This was a return to form but there is 10 years and 8 or 9 crap albums before it, from which I struggle to find a high point.
I love Freedom. And I’m not that keen on NY. I only have about six of his albums and don’t wish to own any more. Perhaps it’s the Neil Young album for people who don’t like Neil Young.
This also comes from the fag end of the 80s, and from Neil’s EP Eldorado. It’s a stonker though.
Trans: the very definition of marmite. Me, pro-Trans. @steerpike guessing not you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eblFQppJfyg
For Pity’s sake man. It’s Neil Young not The Buggles.
You wouldn’t put it in his top 10 songs, but I think this is pretty OK.
Well if you can find an 80s Genesis track that fits the bill you’re a better man than me.
Would ‘Mama’ qualify?
Yes absolutely. Great song that.
After the awesome Grace and Danger in ’80, John Martyn’s 80s output is a pretty steep comedown from his 70s albums. (Things picked up nicely in the 90s)
But this is lovely.
Very nice, ‘cept for the wine bar sax.
Wine bar sax? How on earth else is one to seduce a woman in a puffball skirt with ten pints of Revlon on her hair?
…oh yeah…. Gold Blend…..
That’s the pub sax players version of Bad Sneakers.
No artist went so comprehsively to bollicks in the 80s as Stevie Wonder. After the two tracks on Musiquarium in 1982 he became almost unrecognisably rubbish, in a process one could call Ebony and Ivorification * except as a live act.
This weren’t bad tho’:
*see also Macca.
Almost the same story with Curtis, except his decline had already started by the end of the 70s.
(if you listen to the lyrics I think you can tell why I thought of these two at the same time)
Wotta voice….
From 1985, this Curtis song is beautifully fragile.
Nowt to do with the thread, but I’ve been listening a lot to Darondo recently. He reminds me a lot of Curtis Mayfield (meets Al Green).
That’s a rerecording, but probably better than the original.
As I said about Stevie, his live shows remained a marvel.
Pretty good, but I’d suggest it’s at least two minutes too long.
Are you replying to Moose’s comment where he brags about being able to keep it up for two minutes?
Keep what up? A foot-ball?
….oh yes. I see.
Curtis climbed aboard The Blow Monkeys unstoppable hit making juggernaut ™, Aretha fared somewhat better by standing in George Michael’s five o clock shadow, Dusty got into bed with The Pet Shop Boys for the Scandal soundtrack and the sublime What Have I Done To Deserve This?
I think my favourite of these was Sandie Shaw’s collaboration with The Smiths – from a young popster’ point of view I was familiar with the aforementioned as fine but past it artistes whereas Sandie was the Eurovision Puppet On A string lady to me, and from Sandie’s point of view teaming up with a relatively unknown and somewhat odd (you want me to sing “would you kindly note my inside leg”?) band was by no means the route to chart success that duetting with the Careless Whisper hitmaker might have been:
http://youtu.be/xbQq2WCCGAU
(Please Help The Cause Against Loneliness)
Wonderful! Love the bit of Moz-dancing, too.
No need to say anything, really, is there? Class.
Class me arse! Horrible. I’d choose this from the same album, or any of the tracks on that followed it, side 2 of Tattoo You being the best thing the Stones have ever done imo. Emotional Rescue is pretty brilliant too, all sultry and sexy. But I’m gonna post Worried About You cos it’s a fairly unknown and pretty hilarious video:
Wahey! Wait – I read that first as “clasp my arse” 🙁
Not a bad song, although another that’s at least 2 minutes too long. Also, after watching the video, I feel a bit grubby. Which is nice.
If you ever want someone to clasp…
WHAT!
You don’t like Start Me Up, you don’t like The Rolling Stones.
It is the ESSSENCE of their greatness, total and utter rock’n’roll genius.
Enough to make a dead man, er, smile.
I don’t like the Rolling Stones, but only on account of them being a bit rubbish and everything. I’d rather never hear Start Me Up Again, ever. But I wouldn’t mind hearing Heaven. Right here, right now.
But you do like Bob Dylan, right? As you ponder your answer, remember the Afterword bye-laws.
Bob Dylan’s my favourite ever. It’s just a pity about his lyrics. And music.
And voice
You guys!
*boxing feint*
Slight cheat though because the song was a cast-off from the Some Girls sessions.
i was going to say Sir Van, but actually, having checked, his output throughout the 80s is far too good for this thread. Then I though of Joni but there is nothing I know of hers from this period which is any good at all – though hopefully someone will put me right. So i’ll go for the aforementioned Macca
damn – why isn’t that working?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Od5JgUOZYEc
ah – operator error
It’s good, but it’s no Frog Chorus.
*ribbet*
Good call and reminded me of another lost 80s’ classic..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxYpsB_jdH8
That’s a bloody great song, squandered in an awful film at the ground zero of PMcC’s uncoolth.
If only Free as a Bird had been as good a tune….
In amongst some clunkers, Macca put out 2 decent albums in the ’80s; Tug Of War and Flowers In The Dirt.
My favourite tracks from each:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpcPH4eTO8c
American Dream by CSNY uses every 80s production cliche in the book, but it’s a superb tune.
Also, Dion’s Yo Frankie album utilised the talents of Mark Knopfler and Paul Simon and contains some brilliant songs (Written On Subway Walls, King Of The New York Street).
What about Laughing Len’s I’m Your Man, too, and Robbie Robertson’s self-titled record, and Townshend’s White City?.
Increasingly as well as learning to love 80s pop, I’m inclined to think that many of rock’s elder statesmen did their best work in that decade.
Darn, I saw that RR record at one of yesterday’s boot sales and rejected it upon spying the date.
This popped up on my ipod just yesterday
It’s an excellent song
Showdown at Big Sky – Robbie Robertson from 1987
Ah but, you can’t be claiming that Robbie went shit in the 80s on account of this being the only album he made in the 80s (and triffic it was, easily his best).
Oops, I didn’t read the previous posts properly. Ignore me. I dunno what I’m on about half the time.
Dated? You bet!
Undercover of the Night too?
Tune
Hear hear.
Charlie is good, Keith is good, the lyrics are preposterous, what more do you want??
Status Quo – Burning Bridges (On and Off and On Again)
(only joking – honest!)
Oh jeez, that came on the car radio yesterday. Oh jeez…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Bu1s9ncpo
This counts though.
Black Sabbath – The Shining (from The Eternal Idol).
Many say Sabbath ceased to exist after Ozzy left – they weren’t the same band with Dio up front (and definitley weren’t with Ian Gillan).
1986s The Eternal Idol was not exactly a classic addtion to the Sabbath cannon – this track probably was/is though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3xOTRvRyaA
(except it came out in 1987, not 1986 as I stupidly stated)
Yes
NO
Only kidding, couldn’t resist.
Walked into that one ! 🙂
Rodney T Stewart’s 80s output is not exactly “classic”
The title track of 1986s Every Beat Of My Heart is probably the best bit of it (if you can ignore the bombastic 80s Shiny American production).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltc0mcRXkzo
Also worth noting “People Get Ready” with Jeff Beck is worth a listen
That’s right up there for worst video ever made
Wot no room for Young Turks?
Argh, who let the Kids From Fame loose?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIfiyRVPucI
Wow. Apart from Miles’ own contribution, could a track sound any more 80s?
Apart from Miles, it is entirely electronic, Thank Marcus Miller.
I know! I love it but Tutu sounds more dated than a Mrs Mills album.
I prefer a different, later collaboration with Marcus Miller, Amandla. They play Mr Pastorius pretty straight, allowing the spotlight to linger on Miles and his horn.
Let’s be fair here: after withdrawing in the mid-70s having pushed that Agharta line-up (and indeed the envelope) as far as was humanly possible, his reappearance with The Man With The Horn in 81 was no revelation but a good album nevertheless. A few more outings showed he was a lot more mainstream this time out but then, he had always enjoyed a good pop tune. Some of the albums, Tutu say , were none more 80s and he was using Markus Miller as musical director.
But he hadn’t turned to shit! Most of his 80s output was/is still worth having. Star People is no Bitches Brew, We Want Miles no In A Silent Way, admittedly. But it’s still Miles, dammit! Shouldn’t be on this thread.
I don’t think Miles turned to shit in the eighties but it’s not a period of his career spoken about in hushed tones.
Miles versus Mills… wouldn’t mind hearing that…
I’ll tell you a heritage rock artist who had a blooming good 80s – Robert Palmer. (Though it helps that he was always pretty funky and forward-thinking)
Worst songs by previously sainted hitmaker this decade? Passengers by Elton John, Illegal Alien by Genesis, Spies Like Us by Macca, and all of Hot Space by Queen,
But Young Turks and Baby Jane were two fairly good Rod Stewart singles in my opinion.
Surely Elton sank even lower than “Passengers” in the 1980s?
Exhibit A, m’lud is the wretched “Heartache All Over The World” single from the abysmal “Leather Jackets” album.
Let’s just say that that song wouldn’t quite have merited a place on “Tumbledweed Connection”, for example.
I was rather keen on Townshend’s White City at the time, but I was 11 and didn’t really know any better. I’ve not got the nerve to sift through it now, but it’s got to be better than It’s Hard.
Any volunteers?
I’ve oft had a habit of preferring follow-ups to hits than the hits themselves
Whiter Shade Of Pale – is OK. Homburg – great
Take on Me – meh. The Sun Always Shines on TV – now you’re talking!
So it is with Pete and the White City album. Face The Face was a biggish it (in these parts anyway). It was alrightish, but the follow-up, Give Blood, was much better, and still stands up well IMO.
True Moose but any fule no this is the best version of Start Me Up.
@minibreakfast will enjoy this too 🙂
As someone who hates absolutely everything from this dire decade, I’ll point you to the critically acclaimed albums from the likes of John Lee Hooker and B.B. King from said dire decade.
Why anyone would want to hear crisp, 1980s productions of the blues instead of the wonderful Modern and Crown recordings from the 50s is, and was, beyond me, especially as they normally had a whole load of white millionaires in support.
John Lee Hooker’s The Healer…. bloody awful. Talk about making a sow’s ear from a silk purse. (not that anybody will, the cowards!)
You hate absolutely everything from the 1980s?? Blimey.
Yep.
The one exception I’d probably make would be the first two or three years of Channel Four.
Heather Haversham…. ohhhhh….
Agadoo may have been a bigger hit for Black Lace but it never reached the musical prowess of Superman in 1983. Did I really say that?
The German version of this is so much better. The credits of that version go:
Music – Black Lace
Lyrics – Black Lace/Friedrich Nietzche
Always nice to read threads from the young ‘uns about how the ‘eighties weren’t really as shit as all that, because it’s all they had to call their own, the poor slobs. Imagine! Being young and having to buy records in the ‘eighties! How crazy would that be?!
A band that took the Road To Shitland like no other in the ‘eighties was the Beach Boys. At least they had the integrity to admit the decade was a lost cause, and to go to sleep until it was over. Yes, they decided to be Still Snoozin’ until 2012, but, you know …
Anyway. They had not one great song in the ‘eighties. And so were a mirror of the times.
Brian Wilson doesn’t count. He had an album full of fab tunes in the ‘eighties, but to his credit he thought it was still 1975.
Kokomo isn’t a bad tune. Not bad at all.
And I’m pretty astounded that you don’t like that record they made with the Fat Boys.
Kokomo is a good song, but hardly great by the Beach Boys’ standards.
KOKOMO is utter shitey drivel of the top order.
Whereas the 90’s and noughties really turned back the tide, and are rightly recognised as a second golden age *rolls eyes till they fall off*
I know this isn’t the point, but to dismiss everything from an entire decade is just foolish.
To celebrate this thread entering* the top 5 of Most Commented (Last 7 Days) and therefore joining my other two threads on the Most Bored Leaderboard (well, one is sorta HP’s – bless!), I’ve given myself another little upsie, when signed out. It wasn’t as satisfying as the first, though.
*”entering”, heh.
I’m now querying the OP title. Surely all artists went to shit in the 80s? They can’t have just held it in for ten years.
(As if we’re not being sufficiently lavatorial today)
I have a technical question. How many upsies can one give oneself per thread?
It depends on how many devices* one has.
*okay, I’ll stop for a bit
Eric Clapton – Just Like A Prisoner & Same Old Blues. Beware the Phil Collins production and drums but that aside ol’ EC regained plenty of fire on guitar on these two from 1985: