Venue:
Picture house Crouch End
Date: 15/07/2024
I thought about reviewing this film before I went as the film is different every time, in fact there are 52 quintillion variations of the film. So how do you review a film that no one else will see? You get what the program Brain One* decides there and then.
There were plenty of laughs on the screen (and from the audience) from a ‘serious’ person who doesn’t take himself.seriously. He spoke of the email for the commissioning of the Windows ident and how this long paragraph was full of adjectives for how it should sound,, and to finish it said it needed to be three and a half seconds long. I think to read the paragraph took .longer than that. Because the word ‘Enoesque’ was taken to be a dirty word for ambient music he turned down the opportunity to work with Joni Mitchell who had phoned Eno up requesting they made an ambient album together something he regrets.
Lots of thoughts on the producing/creative process, oblique strategies, nature and a glimpse of our own Mark Ellen.
* Anag.
The audience:
A varied age group minus the two women who saw the start and realised they were at the wrong film.
As I waited for the lift one chap said to me no-one will ever see that film again.
It made me think..
About the creative process, why we listen to music.
How the film is sent to the cinema.
Go and see it
For some reason the link didn’t appear.
https://www.hustwit.com/eno
Planning on seeing this in London next week
I will content myself with the Soundtrack which is excellent.
I always find him as a bit boring whenever I have seen him interviewed. He needs to take some magic mushrooms or something.
@Jaygee it’ll be interesting to hear what bits you saw.
@SteveT didn’t come across as boring in this, possibly if you did see it the ‘boring’ algorithm of the film would kick in.
Not implying you’re boring by the way.
Brilliant! Really looking forward to seeing this, unlikely to be any time soon because the cinema in town has closed for good. 🙁
If it’s ever on Netflix or whatever, I wonder if you’d be able to see a different version every day?
Very sorry to hear your local cinema has closed down for good @mikethep.
That must have been a dreadful blow for an ardent cinephile like you.
Am I right in remembering it is rather an interesting building?
Yes it is. But I’m not surprised – sometimes when we went to see something up-market it was like having your own cinema. Our choices now are Byron Bay (50km) or Tweed Heads (32km). Byron Bay is not a drive you’d want to do at night because of the ever-present danger of running into wandering cows or (and this is true) buffalo. So we’re looking at weekend afternoons at this time of year.
Byron is part of the excellent Palace chain, which has plenty of subtitled films, including whole weeks of French, Italian or Spanish movies. The Tweed Heads cinema takes no risks, which is great if you want to see Despicable Me 2 or Twisters. Anything I want to see there I’d have to go on my own, since Mrs thep is extremely picky in her choice of movies…
The dvd’s going to be a bit of an issue, unless they expect fans to buy 52 quintillion versions of it, and that’s never ever going to happen, not in 52 quintillion years.
Oh, wait… get yer card details ready…
No, no, no…this is Eno, not VdM or the Fabs!
What the makers of this probably mean, when they claim that you can’t ever see the same movie twice, is that you’d have to watch it over and over so many times before it repeated that nobody in their right mind ever would.
Seeing that truly randomised stuff is completely impossible in software* I suspect that a totally-crammed-with-data SSD with some very clever embedded algorithms, a clone of the one they must be using in those cinemas, could offer punters something close enough to satisfy all but the most pedantic. Would cost a packet, mind.
* in software, programs rely on mathematics (i.e. numbers, ones and zeros) and mathematics cannot do random, because genuine randomness is outside of numbers and is pure chance.
To generate truly random sequences you’d need to use something like radioactive decay or amplification of noise from a quantum device.
You can do a pretty good approximation of random in software, though. A 64-bit Floating Point number only repeats once every 18,446 Trillion times. I doubt there are that many frames in the film.
If it were truly random, it would be possible to see the identical film twice in a row. You’d just never know when.
Precisely – indeed, it would be possible to see the same film EVERY time.
@fitterstoke
Surely that would only occur in a parallel universe populated by an infinite number of monkeys with access to an infinite number of DVD players and TV sets
No, @Jaygee
If the selection was TRULY random, the odds (albeit astronomical) of seeing the identical movie would be the same every time you played it. Can’t happen with an algorithm, of course – they can get close enough to random to make no practical difference, but aren’t truly random.
Oh crikey, I didn’t see this going into the Statistical realms of Mutuality.
I must admit, I probably haven’t thought about the subject for 36 years, and I only got a Grade B A-level back then. Offspring the Younger’s just sat his A-levels, I could ask for his input? We could do with some young blood on the AW.
Could you get OJ to check out the Bob Dylan bans phones thread and maybe look into inventing a mallet lighter phone oldies like me could carry around in our pockets and hold up at giggs?
I saw it in Sydney recently but it didn’t include the anecdote about the Windows music.
I thought he came across as very down to earth and likeable with a sense of humour.
I doubt I’ve seen any film exactly the same way twice.
I’m guessing you’ve never watched Derek Jaman’s ‘Blue’ on repeat with the sound off.
I spotted that Joe Boyd and Brian Eno are having a public chinwag at Foyles Bookshop (top floor auditorium space) on Charing Cross Road, Wednesday September 4th, 7:00-8:30pm.
Tickets are available now from Foyles website. £8 admission only or £33 including a signed copy of Joe’s new book “And The Roots Of Rhythm Remain”.
I think I’ll go, as both are interesting speakers, but I’ll probably wait until the book is in paperback before I buy it.
I expect Brian’s movie project will be mentioned too.
https://www.foyles.co.uk/events/joe-boyd-brian-eno
p.s. In reference to our various threads bemoaning extortionate event booking charges, there is no booking charge at all on this event. Yes, it can be done.
See you there @mike_h, though I have bought the book.
Train ticket and hotel will be more than that.
Misssed out on seeing the movie due to screening time issues. Will look out for it on Sky
On a side note, if anyone wants a copy of the Dume double album, it’s currently going for £27.99 on Amazon Germany
Wouldn’t mind the DL code……… Or a CD, without having to buy the whole set of archives Vol. 2