Musings on the byways of popular culture
11/09/2021 by Moose the Mooche 89 Comments
11/09/2021 at 22:14
Some time in New York York city, eah?
11/09/2021 at 22:16
Black Celebration says
11/09/2021 at 22:20
Brilliant match – well played
11/09/2021 at 22:21
Abso-fucking-lutely fantastic! What a game, what skill and guts (from both women). She’s the champion Britain needs to give us a lift in a tough year.
Freddy Steady says
11/09/2021 at 22:31
Don’t start please. I wanted to watch but my wife has finally decided to start watching the Crown….
11/09/2021 at 22:36
Not a jury in the land would convict.
11/09/2021 at 22:32
Given that we’ve had Henman Hill and Murray Mount, what’s it to be for ER?
11/09/2021 at 23:39
She is an absolute star, she plays with such joy, Her easy going charm & smile, coupled with an attacking game, make her a very attractive role model.
She’s come across well in her press conferences & thanking the LTA in interviews shows her maturity & clear thinking.
She’s managed by Max Eisenbud, who previously worked with Maria Sharapova, and the way that the experienced pros talk about her, show that we are just seeing the start of an incredible talent.
11/09/2021 at 23:41
The whole story is brilliant. Through the qualifiers, her age, not dropping a set, the fantastic way she plays, and a properly tough final…just wonderful. We loved it. Fernandez was tremendous too, and the two of them bode well for the game. I’m bored to tears with the same players over and over and I couldn’t care less if I never see Djokovic, Nadal or even Federer again. Retire FFS.
Dave Amitri says
12/09/2021 at 07:50
I don’t think I’ve watched a women’s tennis match since Steffi Graf, really only watched Andy Murray a bit of Federer in men’s for the same reason. A couple of observations. They hit the ball so bloody hard, so consistently and so accurately. Then after the match both women were so sorted, smart, controlled and eloquent. I think I know sport but my eyes were opened last night.
12/09/2021 at 11:08
Steffi Graf retired over twenty years ago. A lot has happened in women’s tennis since then – primarily Serena Williams, who re-wrote the book on how women can play tennis. No more pitty-pat. The best women players all now give it a right wallop.
Both Raducanu and Fernandez are, in common with 90% of players of both sexes, baseline hoggers who only very rarely attack the net, which can make for a tedious spectactle, but the depth, power and angle variation of Raducanu’s service return is exceptional. She has a starry future.
12/09/2021 at 12:23
Steffi Graf was an incredible athlete (and hit the ball very hard also), think Raducanu is more in that mould than Williams.
MC Escher says
12/09/2021 at 13:44
I agree with your general observation but it’s not true of Emma based on the one match I saw. She attacks the net regularly when the time is right.
12/09/2021 at 15:00
I’ve not watched a game of tennis from start to finish for years either and was hooked after the second and third games.
Tremendous stuff from both players. The ferocity with which they hit the ball amazed me.
As for coping with the pressure at that age, I keep thinking what I was like at 18-19 and it beggars belief that they can even hit the ball.
Moose the Mooche says
12/09/2021 at 16:14
Me at 18: “What, I have to go two whole hours without a wank?”
….let’s see how long it takes for someone to say….
12/09/2021 at 17:00
“You at 47 as well, though”
….bloody hell, had to do it myself.
12/09/2021 at 22:24
@Twang you could be getting your wish. Federer is finished effectively, Nadal has injury issues and Djokovic on the brink of losing as I write this
12/09/2021 at 22:30
Yes I just had a look at the scores. I have no bad feelings about them, they’ve been great, I’d just like a few different people to win!
12/09/2021 at 23:07
Djokovic has just given a “Sally Fields” “you love me, you really love me” runners up speech.
11/09/2021 at 23:50
That’s all the end of year sports awards settled then.
12/09/2021 at 01:19
BREAKING: Education Secretary Gavin Williamson first to congratulate new British US Open Champion Mako Vunipola. #USOpen #USOpenFinal #Raducanu
— Rory Bremner 💙 (@rorybremner) September 11, 2021
BREAKING: Education Secretary Gavin Williamson first to congratulate new British US Open Champion Mako Vunipola. #USOpen #USOpenFinal #Raducanu
— Rory Bremner 💙 (@rorybremner) September 11, 2021
12/09/2021 at 07:38
An extraordinary story and a magnificent win. Hope Piers Morgan was watching too…
12/09/2021 at 09:32
He was, and he’s taken full personal credit, of course.
Hateful shitheads gotta hateful shithead!
12/09/2021 at 11:12
You watch. The moment she loses at Wimbledon, it’ll be “the Canadian born Sino-Romanian immigrant has let Britain down…|”
12/09/2021 at 11:34
Three really depressing things this morning:
1. Politicians from Farage on upwards on Twitter slobbering all over her in the hope of attracting a little fairy dust.
2. ‘ER naked’ being the second most popular search term on Twitter after ‘ER parents’.
3. The Spectator fretting about whether cis white males will be prevented from admiring her achievement because of Twitter wokery.
12/09/2021 at 12:24
Why I even check all this Twitter stuff unless you are looking to be appalled? Lowest of the low
12/09/2021 at 14:26
Assuming your I is redundant, I don’t ‘check it’, I go on Twitter and see it, it’s there. Sometimes I go on Twitter, sometimes I don’t, so sue me.
No.2 was on Google, my mistake. I went on Google to see if the match was available anywhere. So sue me again.
12/09/2021 at 15:06
I wondered which ER they were meaning. After all “Her Majesty’s a pretty nice girl, but…”
12/09/2021 at 15:26
Just fail to see the relevance, am sure the vast majority of people in the UK are happy about her incredible victory. There will always be people with idiotic views and they have always been there. Not worth getting “depressed” about. Rejoice!
12/09/2021 at 15:48
That was, y’know, kind of my point…
12/09/2021 at 15:49
That was kind of my point…
12/09/2021 at 16:31
13/09/2021 at 13:26
This is the same Farage that was making an issue about living next to Romanian families ?
13/09/2021 at 13:58
The very same.
14/09/2021 at 10:18
Arse though he might be, Farage wasn’t referring to Romanian families.
Hoops McCann says
12/09/2021 at 08:03
Sometimes sport manages to produce stories that are truly special- the Agueroooooo goal, Johnny Wilkinson’s winning kick, Leach and Stokes – and this was another one. Just a wonderful story from every angle
13/09/2021 at 10:04
All those are team as well as individual moments, which are all amazing, but the story is even more intense surely in an individual sport.
Mario Balotelli’s only assist for City? Yes.
Also all your great examples are by experienced professionals at the top of their games. Very difficult to think of an equivalent in team sports as 18-year olds just starting in the game don’t tend to start World Cup or Champions League finals…
Bingo Little says
13/09/2021 at 10:25
It’s a long, long time ago, but this was pretty special from a 17 year old in a World Cup final. Sends the defender out for chips.
13/09/2021 at 10:32
Yeah – that 1958 World Cup Final was the classic old Råsunda Stadium in Solna.
Don’t go looking for it now, though – they knocked it down a few years ago and built apartment blocks on top…
13/09/2021 at 10:33
Pele in the 1958 world cup is the closest I think so far to Radecanu’s achievement – he’d been professional for less than two years and a Brazil player for less than a year.
If Radecanu has an equivalent career that’ll probably do.
13/09/2021 at 15:32
Probably best if she gives the Viagra contract a wide swerve, though.
12/09/2021 at 09:21
Moosey! I think the appropriate phrase is “My word!”
12/09/2021 at 09:31
Dan Maskell would have said “Blistering!”
12/09/2021 at 10:37
“Oooooooh, I say!”
12/09/2021 at 10:47
Charles Hawtrey as tennis pundit? Let it be so…
12/09/2021 at 12:33
As a “new Canadian” I am afraid I failed the Norman Tebbit test and pulled for Raducanu, but obviously Canadian connections there too. Superb stuff and both players have very bright futures.
12/09/2021 at 12:38
You failed the Tebbit test by breathing oxygen and going around in daylight.
12/09/2021 at 14:01
Raducanu came under severe pressure at some key moments in the final when the match could easily have turned away , but the way she dug in, upped the speed of her returns and stuck in there, was so wonderful to watch. Great sport, high stakes, great drama.
12/09/2021 at 14:29
And another thing – if you pronounce the end of her name as “canoe”, you can sing it to the tune of Metal Guru.
Raducanu – is it you
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah
12/09/2021 at 14:33
I have had this in head for the last week!
12/09/2021 at 16:57
Also Pete Tong had a sting in the 90s that sounded like ‘canoe’ – this also.
12/09/2021 at 16:59
Was it somebody saying “Pete Tong doesn’t play the fuckin’ Who!”
12/09/2021 at 14:34
I did tweet last night that somewhere in Surrey or Barbados Cliff was rehearsing “Congratulations”. How about…
🎶 Congratulations to Raducanu….🎶
Black Type says
12/09/2021 at 14:37
Cliff has form with Grand Slam winners, of course…
12/09/2021 at 17:21
I still play tennis in my 70s and love the sport, and we are lucky to have an indoor tennis centre here. Sometimes I see youngsters being coached, and some County standard players practicing, and you would not believe how hard they they hit the ball and their speed around the court – it is absolutely extraordinary. And these professionals are several levels entirely above that.
I watched this and never felt she was going to lose – what a talent!
12/09/2021 at 17:51
I was fortunate enough to watch a family friend and A N Other win the UK under 15 boys doubles championship a couple of years ago and yes the speed of play was amazing, probably highlighted by being courtside as opposed to watching it on the telly.
12/09/2021 at 18:33
Contrast it with this morning’s first match of the U17 footy season where the visiting striker was flagged offside, threatened the linesman for his trouble, and shouted at the Ref “Are you F***ING BLIND?” before being sent off.
I’m beginning to think Offspring the Younger chose the wrong sport.
12/09/2021 at 23:14
Hmmm… McEnroe? Williams? Krygios? Djokovic? Tennis players have sweaty hissy fits too.
13/09/2021 at 14:38
That should say ‘sweary’, although I’m sure they’re pretty sweaty at the time 😉
13/09/2021 at 14:51
Ditto the footballers.
13/09/2021 at 08:58
Like everyone else glued to the box Sat night, and a bit busy yesterday. Here’s my thoughts:
1. The stars absolutely aligned for Radecanu as the seeds in her half of the draw all fell away. Fernandez beat a fistful of top 10 players, but Radecanu in the final beat the player who beat the players.
2. Unlike many I did think she could lose, or at least get into serious trouble, until those run of games to 5-2. Fernandez reminded me of Djokovic – amazing defence, and grinding down the opponent by getting ball after ball back, until a bad ball is coughed up which she then attacks. Radecanu by contrast was attacking virtually every ball, particularly the first ball back on her serve, and on the return of serve. Much less margin for error with such a strategy.
3. This was most obvious when Fernandez broke at the start of the second…but each time Fernandez looked like getting ahead Radecanu hit deeper and harder and forced errors or hit clean winners. It’s the response to a pressure situation and the ability to find that extra 5% in the big points that most impressed me about her.
4. Neither player served brilliantly, though both upped it in the second set, and of course there was That Ace. The one-two punch from Radecanu was lovely: swinging serve out wide on the ad court, then the winner into the opposite corner, reminded me of Federer, though Federer would be half-way up the court while Radecanu hit hers from behind the baseline.
5. Both players only occasionally or when forced moved to the wings to hit cross-courts, not seen such angles generated from the centre before so consistently.
6. The time out was what it was, but Fernandez had the momentum with a game won and a break to go 5-4 on her serve. Had to be taken, but it did benefit Radecanu who was trying to hold Fernandez back just before.
7. The speed and accuracy of the groundstrokes were something else.
8. Both should win more Slams. It would nto surprise me if Fernandez actually ends up winning more, as she has a few shots – the slice down the line and the drop – that Radecanu doesn’t yet have. Plenty of players add these types of shots later on – Nadal at 18 had his massive forehand and very little else.
9. So we can finally stop going ‘why oh why’ about British tennis, having seen mens and womens Slam winners in the last decade.
Barry Blue says
13/09/2021 at 09:33
Great assessment, @moseleymoles
I’m not much of a one for the tennis, but that was illuminating.
Blue Boy says
13/09/2021 at 14:41
Yes, good summary. I also was nervous for Raducanu right up to the match point; if she had lost that service game it could have gone any way. Although she showed a real steeliness which as the match went on did make me think she was always marginally the more likely to win.
Both of them were incredible though; such positive and nerveless play from two 18 year olds at the very beginning of their careers was jaw dropping. And I think the fact that it was the two of them – two new pretenders almost exactly the same age – that made it even more compelling and more of a media story than if it had just been one of them beating a more experienced player. The narrative is laid out – is this the start of another great tennis rivalry? Let’s hope so, and let’s hope for both their sakes that the burden of expectation such early success can create doesn’t weigh down on them too heavily.
13/09/2021 at 19:21
Agree pretty much
1. Raducanu did beat the Olympic champion (Bencic), and won all her matches in straight sets, but yes, Fernandez had a much tougher draw.
8. A friend of mine who is a more than decent player believes Raducanu has the better all round game (he told me that before the final), Fernandez is a great fighter.
14/09/2021 at 09:27
I agree with all the above comments, Fernandez was really fighting but Emma did that thing that champions do, on the key serve she didn’t choak.
They were both wonderful though, right through to their final speeches. We loved every second.
Leffe Gin says
13/09/2021 at 10:29
I’m not sure if this is a valid comment, but she seems to have an unusual trait amongst professional tennis players- she REALLY enjoys playing tennis over and above any other demands. Not a steely-eyed clinician like many others seem to be.
13/09/2021 at 12:37
I might add that as fellow A-level leaver heading off to uni this autumn my son has a somewhat different view. 3 levels and an EPQ he thinks is about the same UCAS points as two A-levels and a Grand Slam title.
13/09/2021 at 12:45
Similarly, ABC and the ability to get out of bed before lunchtime. I’m still not giving her $2.5M, though.
13/09/2021 at 19:31
I really hope this is true.
Apparently she was asked about Piers Morgan (who had said some dismissive things about her at Wimbledon).
Her reply – “ Sorry – I don’t know who she is”
Sewer Robot says
14/09/2021 at 02:06
14/09/2021 at 09:45
I think it was a genuine answer from her, to be fair.
14/09/2021 at 09:57
But the Tweet seems to have been fake.
14/09/2021 at 05:46
All the talk has moved from how fantastic the performance was to how monetised she will be.
14/09/2021 at 05:51
Indeed. Who in this day and age would want the curse that “National Treasure” status brings?
Today it’s money.
Next week/month/year, the red tops will be snouting out any potentially vaguely offensive tweets she may have made when she was 10.
Not long after that, it’ll be “Troubled/Tragic Em’s battle with her demons.”
Given the Daily Fail’s obsession with house prices, I predict they’ll be running up a list of des-res addresses fro or Em right about now
Would imagine most papers have also added in the usual “there’s even talk of The fairy tale story being turned into a blockbuster movie…”*
* “There is! I read it on the afterword blog!”
14/09/2021 at 06:05
I notice that both the Mail and the Express are careful to avoid using her funny foreign surname in headlines in case it unsettles the gammons.
Emma bewitches America in jeans and cardie this morning, apparently.
14/09/2021 at 06:12
Just wait until she loses a match. “Britain’s pride” will become “Defeated foreigner”.
14/09/2021 at 07:01
A la Andy Murray who quickly morphed from “Brave Brit” to “Surly Scot” in less time than it takes to get the top off a bottle of Robinson’s Barley Water each time he lost.
14/09/2021 at 11:16
To be fair, that’s because a) she’s a young girl so they are comfortable in unfairly diminutising her, and b) her first name is shorter and just fits into tabloid headlines better.
14/09/2021 at 11:42
In fairness to the Mail* – not a sentence you will hear me use very often – it’s only since her win and instantaneous elevation to National Treasure status ((C) all papers) that they’ve started referring to her as Emma.
‘Tis but a short hop, skip and jump from here to “Our Em”
*Dunno about the Express haven’t read it since the days of Jonah Junor
14/09/2021 at 07:13
There used to be a website called ‘How British is Andy Murray?’ which searched news sites and recorded on a sliding scale whether he was being referred to as British or Scottish. The correlation between being ‘British’ and success in tournaments was predictable precise.
14/09/2021 at 10:43
He became 100% British the day he won Wimbledon (or maybe US Open)
14/09/2021 at 12:07
This was an annual running gag on my Facebook page. My friends just can’t get enough of my wit.
14/09/2021 at 12:20
The real problem is the most incredible sporting story has immediately become a “front page” celebrity story. The Daily Mail’s tennis correspondent, Mike Dickson, is very good, follows the tour around throughout the year, but most casual readers will only be interested in the show biz side.
(Dickson says that it’s gone unnoticed that Dan Evans & Cam Norrie have risen to career highs this week)
Tennis is a global sport & is richly rewarded for success. Fame is a byproduct of that,
Unfortunately, Britain has a real problem with this, whereas in the USA they don’t. Already, the horror stories of Capriati, Osaka & Hingis are being trotted out, ignoring the success stories of other young players.
Emma Raducanu appears to have a very good team around her & seems very grounded – apparently, she’s had no media training. What we are likely to see is that she gets more guarded & bland in interviews, in order to avoid saying anything controversial, as her career progresses.
As for the “mixed race/Britishness” thing. My brother in law is Chinese & my sister has said how it was very sad that there were no role models here for their daughter growing up.
Showing the British disdain for displays of wealth & success. I don’t think we’ll get anything like this Andy Roddick American Express advert
14/09/2021 at 15:37
Regarding this “mixed race” stuff I find it somewhat strange that there is such an apparent obsession with it in the UK, in Canada it would barely merit a mention, but that’s the difference between newish countries built on immigration (controversially) and places with the old order.
14/09/2021 at 15:57
While you’ve been away, Dai, this has become the land of blue passports, regression to the 1950s and “tackin back controll of are boarders”. It makes me sad.
David Kendal says
14/09/2021 at 16:59
Since Brexit, attitudes towards immigration in the UK have become more favourable in general. A lot of the worries about the EU seem to have been about the belief that the government had no real grip on the numbers of citizens of other European countries coming to live here. The 6 million people applying for settlement is about twice the government’s initial estimate, which shows there may have been some truth to this. If they’d got round to registration of these citizens, which I’m told that the Netherlands for example did, this fear may have had less political force. It’s not the numbers so much, as the sense of order.
14/09/2021 at 16:58
It’s really unfortunate. The usual supects – Julia Hartley-Brewer, The Spectator, Spiked, etc – have been gleefully criticising those they deem to be lefty libtards for making a meal of Raducanu being mixed race, and an immigrant (when she was all of two years old). They’re right – in trying to point out that she is an imspiration to other mixed-race people, and immigrants, and one in the eye to the Farages of this world, they are merely emphasising her ‘otherness’. That said, I understand the temptation. Those same right wing click-bait voices are constantly utterly poisonous about foreigners, immigrants, and ethnic minorities. When someone like Raducanu comes along it’s a classic case of ‘oh, but we didn’t mean THAT sort of immigrant…’
14/09/2021 at 20:26
It’s the man Garry Richardson used to call “Andy Rodduck”
14/09/2021 at 21:01
If it even slightly hints at “woke,” the antithesis of the tabloid press, I’m in 100%.
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