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Reason enough – alongside the loathsome BBC 6 Music, obviously – to only buy CDs and only play Rock ‘n’ Roll ALL THE TIME.
It should be a prescribed text.
Strewth… he (it has to be a “he”) even started with “So!”
BBC Radio 6music loathesome? Really?
Care to enlighten me why my favourite radio station is loathesome?
Do you not come here often, Jack? Most Afterworders would be able to write dd’s response to that in their sleep. Enlightened you would not be.
I hear they sometimes play the hits of the no-hit Clash.
I am still none the wiser.
Someone please enlighten this old sailor.
Many thanks in advance.
I was about to say that deram is the nearest thing the AW has to a troll and every word of his posts could be written by a reasonably basic algorithm, but then I reconsidered the “nearest thing to” part. I think that’s what Moose was getting at. There’s no point engaging with dd, jack. Your reaction was exactly what he was after when he slagged off a station he knows a lot of people on here would like.
^ wot he sed
I’m not sure DD is an actual troll, just a very very grumpy man
He scares goats.
And he lives under a bridge
Taking your comments at face value, I’m sure CD’s can also suffer from imperfections in their production process similar to what those wingnuts on hoffman are so obsessed about. Although normal people would not be able to hear those, either.
The only reason you don’t understand our music, is because you don’t like it!
I have to deal with these people and others like them on a daily basis.
Still, only 5 years to go until retirement.
So did I until 11 years ago.
Sadly, people now complain about their print quality. “Well, can you bloody read it or not?” is not considered a customer-friendly response.
The best thing about the Steve Hoffman forum is that it makes us lot seem normal.
…they don’t even dig Bert Weedon.
Don’t kid yourself Paul. Normal this place isn’t.
What do you not understand? As the comments clearly state, a non-fill is going to happen when the biscuit spreads from the middle and an air bubble forms. DUH.
Apropos of nothing: remember when Superintendent McVitie was known as The Biscuit?
Och aye. There’s been a Murrrdurrrr
Crumbs…
Calling our jack of this parish…
Does anyone spread their biscuit from the middle?
Oh I say.
If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join our Club.
The “biscuit” is the term used for the dollop of raw vinyl which then gets pressed into a “record”, as we used to call them when the world was a little younger..
Well, indeed…
Is it when the stylus glides over a really tiny flat bit because the groove that should be there, isn’t?
No. It is a pressing fault though, just not the one you describe. I’ve had it on 2 rekirds, both times on the last track on a side. It’s a sudden drop in sound quality. Can also be accompanied by hiss.
Right. I probably have never noticed – and if I have, I would have assumed the effect was intentional particularly if it’s someone a bit arty/avant garde.
So is it an air bubble in the thickness of the vinyl? And the stylus runs over the groove above the bubble and it sounds different?
I’ve had another two coffees and a rush of blood to the head…this reminds me of the physics/materials science theory behind Pink Triangle’s use of an acrylic turntable platter. I seem to remember Arthur K suggesting (in my simplistic way of looking at it) that mechanical impulses from the stylus could be absorbed, reflected or transferred to the platter – transferring them away being best option of the three for best sound – so having a platter of a similar material to the LP would allow that transfer to happen more efficiently. Presumably in this thinking, a bubble in the thickness of the vinyl would be a discontinuity and – maybe – audible?
I need a lie down…
Maybe audi-bubble?
Arf!
Unforgeta-bubble.
Some people have misplaced effort. Their lives. Reminds me of hi -fi status competitions. My ears might as well rely on a phone speaker.
Because I am very dull, I know what this means.
The grooves on your vinyl should be a nice sharp V-shape, evenly right across the record from the outer edge to the run our groove.
The ‘stamper’ (metal press mould or ‘plate’) wears down a tiny bit with each record pressed. The lump of raw vinyl (‘puck’ or ‘biscuit’) is only an inch or two diameter. It has to be warmed to spread evenly when squashed between the metal plates.
If the stamper is worn, or the vinyl puck is not warm enough, the record can be thinner at the outer edge. This makes the grooves less deep and more noisy/worse sounding.
I advise staying away from Hoffmanites and listening to the music instead.
After this post I feel like staying away from YOU. 🙂
Say what you like about the Hoffmanites…
…er…
…that’s it.
Nothing to do with air bubbles, then? @fentonsteve
“I picked up a near mint target of Loggins and Messina and it’s real nice. I’m happy with it 👍👍👍”
“Yes but did it have pre-emphasis? You said yourself this is a deal breaker”
“Yes but did it have pre-emphasis? You said yourself this is a deal breaker”
“Show me where I said that, asshat!”
“Gorts! Remove this post”
At the risk of appearing out of touch with the youngsters:
How do you wear an asshat?
And what is a Gort? Other than a robot from another planet, of course…
I don’t think these people, the Hoffmen, are youngsters. Gorts are the admins of that board, asshat is an Americanism, as is the concept of ‘picking up’ a release, which is ‘nice’.
I’m super-happy with that comment. Which jazz and conversation are you listenin’ to?
Time for a shoot-out on Seals & Crofts ‘Takin it easy’.
I scored a mint Ludwig. DR 3.
This thread is for shipping notices only! Gorts please remove this post.
The White Zone is for loading and unloading only. If you got to load or unload go to the White Zone.
I used to think that I was hip to the jive – but, sadly, I don’t speak Hoffman…
Get hep, Daddio…
Straight from the fridge!
@Leffe-Gin
I’m still searching high and low for that rare-as-hen’s-teeth oft-played copy of L&M’s meisterwork
I picked one up. I’m happy with it.
I haven’t understood a single word of this thread. Have I strayed into a parallel universe?
^Do you wanna tell him or shall I?
I used to tape songs off Top of the Pops onto a cassette recorder by holding the microphone up to the telly.
It had a DIN jack on it. Does that help?
Wow. I know things were more formal back in the day but was it really necessary to put a tape recorder in a tux?
Mind you, my iPad’s got a cummerbund, so I’m in no position to criticise.
Arf! New AW strapline – “My iPad’s got a cummerbund”
Don’t we all dress in black tie to listen to our Kevin Gray mastered pressed at Optimal 180g vinyl? We can’t let standards slip.
There’s a serious point to be made here about what to wear while playing music – after all, imagine you’re in a BDSM dungeon: being flayed alive is bad enough without all that reflective leather and latex playing merry hell with the acoustics.
My safe word is “Baffles!!”
I find my purple shellsuit generates a lot of static electricity, which plays havoc with dusty vinyl. Luckily I wear a bacofoil hat which allows me to discharge at will.
I wouldn’t like to do your laundry.
I dunno… is Moosey even paying attention? I line ’em up for him to knock ’em down…
Ewww… I don’t want to get too close to someone who’s in a shell suit, I might catch common-ness.
‘My iPad’s got a crumhorn’.
My ass has a hat.
I hope you made some holes for his ears.
Remember last month’s discussion about bum hats? There’s an idea right there just waiting to be marketed…”Bum Hats – sponsored by The Afterword”…
I had a nifty Binatone cassette player for that exact purpose.
Sonically, it was a curate’s egg. While it delivered an acceptable level of binaural playback, the tonoptic organisation of the structure shoved the treble to the backpads, which played merry hell with my pars flaccida.
I’m very happy with the headroom my Ferguson gives me 👍👍👍
Saisho personal stereo – you can’t beat it.
You can beat someone with it though, it weighs about three kilos.
Was Saisho an exclusive-to-Dixons brand, back in days of yore*?
*When AW-ers were poor.
Yes, and I’ve never met a girl like you before…
(sorry, Pavlovian reaction to the expression ‘days of yore’)
Currys had ‘Matsui’.
Dixons also sold very decent 35mm cameras under the name ‘Chinon’, which were – I think – essentially Pentax under the skin.
Matsui – Japanese name, but NO Japanese components or build. Cobbled together in a shed in the East Midlands and a Rising Sun symbol slapped on it to mis-lead the punters
I seem to remember a rumour (probably untrue, but funny) that Matsui meant Dog Shit.
I used to have a Steepletone cassette recorder in the very early 70s, which brand appeared to come from a shed in Middle Barton, in Oxfordshire.
The Steepletones was Fred Dibnah’s backing band. True story.
Chinon – we used to say that at school when somebody said something we didn’t believe was true…
Funnily enough this very morning an old mate was talking about the increased pleasure he took in music these days as opposed to 30 years ago when he was piping it through a 15-watt Matsui.
I said that my position was similar but also I would wait for my parents to go to the shops, then crank up my Dad’s Telefunken gear and turn the living room into the Hacienda.
Quite. I can draw horses aswell.
Do you put them on Facebook, though?
Where else? I’m no fool
This could mean the end of the horse-drawn zeppelin.
Teeth! Teeth! Give us teeth!
Winds light to variable!
“it is raining not here also”
Never heard of al this but i recently bought “Everything Must God” on vinyl by the magnificent Dan and the last 8 minutes of side two had horrible surface noise but nothing visible on the vinyl therefore something in the pressing. I sent it back and had it replaced. Happily the replacement plays perfectly and sounds fab.
Please don’t change Everything Must God – that’s an ace typo.
From Don’s long-forgotten evangelical period? 😉
Gorts! Change the title.
Or, to put it another way:
“I picked one up. I’m happy with it”.
You’re getting the hang of this.
I get people who might get, say, Abbey Road on vinly, as it pretty much only came out on vinly in 69.
Still daft, though – £20 v. £2 on CD in a chazzer.
What I really don’t get is people getting, say Oasis on vinly, as the way to buy that at the time would have been 1. CD (80%?), 2. Cassette (19%?), and 3. vinly (1%?).
Currently £26 v. 25p-50p on CD in a chazzer.
So any notion that that is listening to the stuff how it was originally intended is 100% bollocks, and you’re not even getting an original pressing which you probably are in the chazzer.
Look mate, you cannot get Beatles product in a chazzer near me. It’s very nearly all 90s and 00s crap. Some good compos now and then but, as with books, you have to live in the right area or else it’s all the CD equivalent of the Da Vinci Code.
DD I’ve just seen the original vinyl definitely maybe for £400.
In 1994 it was exactly the same price as the CD – with a track that wasn’t on the CD.
I played my copy of Definitely, Maybe (and the next album) on the turntable earlier this year for Mrs. Paws as she is a fan of the monobrowed boys. She felt that there was “a lot more” in the sound compared with hearing the cd, hearing it on Absolute 90’s or streaming. Meanwhile, I’d happily sell the records for £400 each!
I’m selling my vinyl copy of Definitely Maybe as I’ve decided now is the time to offload my vinyl collection as we are thinking of moving.
It turns out I had another Oasis album on vinyl, unsurprisingly I didn’t know that.
Hopefully I should get a good return and my floorboards can relax.
Bump.
Wait – can you you do it to the rhythm of the rock’n’roll sound?
Hang on – bump-diddy-bump-bump, bump bump?
By George I think I’ve got it! Everybody now!
Bumpers are def.
Going full-on KFD on yo’ asses:
There’s a comment to this worth quoting:
“This is timeless music. Wish we was still creating music with taste, feelings and substance in 2022”