“Yer mum.”
“No, your mum.”
“No, yours.”
“Yours.”
“Chicken.”
“No, you’re chicken.”
“No, you are.”
Take a look at the row over the TV debate during PMQs, it’s on the BBC website. Good lord, Cameron is an arrogant and obfusticating c**t. I’d love to see BFJ Prescott smack him in his mealy mouth. I’m beginning to think that’s what it might take to put this country right again. It’s going to take more than poor weedy little Ed, that’s for sure.
Mad as a Hatter? Mad as a Fox more like : ))
It’s pure politics. He’s miles ahead of Miliband in the personal stakes, and it can only go worse for him. Nesh is nothing to do with it, it’s a cold eyed calculation that his personal ratings are more at risk if he has a debate than if he doesn’t, as Miliband can’t get worse and he can’t realistically expect to do better. The reverse of Gordon Brown in the last election who correctly calculated that he couldn’t do worse. He’d violently opposed them up to that point. Just politics.
Fair point, Mr T. But “just politics” that determines our lives, unfortunately. Well, mine anyway.
It’s days like this you think ‘I wonder what John Smith (him what was there before Blair) would have made of Call Me Dave’…
Mincemeat, I’d like to think…
I sometimes wonder about this. I was about 16 when John Smith died, so my memories of him are somewhat hazy. Was he the great PM that never was, or has his legend grown as a consequence of his early passing? Or maybe somewhere in between?
My memory is that he was having very little impact. Tory support collapsed after Black Wednesday in Sep’92 so JS didn’t really have to do much and that seemed to be what he was doing. A decent man though, it would appear.
I thought he seemed a decent bloke but was uninspiring – his USP was stolid, honest, plainness. Nothing whatsoever wrong with that, but was he electable? We all fell for Tony Blair, quite the opposite, so maybe not.
I remember John Smith from Question Time – he was a guest on the show who always was measured, informed and common sensical – kind of like a less radical and less media focussed Red Ken.
Or even Neil Kinnock come to that. Normally an optimist, politics is one subject that dampens my optimism. Our choice of available leaders is pretty dire. Then I look at the rest of the Western World and there seems to be a dearth of good leaders or anyone with an ounce of statesmanship. Scary.
Spot on Steve. In my younger days when it were all green fields around here -in fact it’s still green fields around here- we had statesmen of the calibre of Harold McMillan, Sunny Jim, Enoch Powell, Dennis Healey, David Steel, Alec D-H, LBJ and many many more, Now it mattered not a jot whether one agreed with their politics or even liked them -Maggie Thatcher, I’m looking at you- but they were formidable politicians to a man. Milliband a leader? Give me a break. I could weep for what has become of my Labour Party.
Take heart SteveT. Elizabeth Warren in the States and Elizabeth May in Canada. It’s the fuckin’ electorate that’s the problem.
Of course, but I don’t think the debates will change much TBH.
Having been used to being ruled by the old there comes a point when you realise you are older than your kids teachers, policemen, hospital consultants,…and the Prime Minister, However good or bad the candidates may be they are still closer to their peer group than yours, and however well intentioned they are -can they be relied on to tun the bathroom light off? (Oh I see just me then………..I’ll get me coat.)