OK, another question. Does the free movement of goods continue, at least until the end of 2020 or will documents such as carnets be required from February 1st?
Will I still be able to buy boxsets I never play from Am*z*n France, Spain, Italy and Germany when that git Paul at SDE tells me there’s a bargain going down. I’m beginning to think Mrs F is right.
Basically everything will be the same other then not having any MEPs but we’re not obliged to enact any legislation passed either.
I shall be very down on 1st Feb. Nothing we can do about it but it will be shit the day after, and the idiots who want to ring bells can fuck right off.
I see we have a Brexit Party MEP froth on Twitter asking who the hell is going to be holding the EU to account and supporting Britain’s position about fishing rights now that there are no UK representatives present?
It’ll be fine. One of the main advocates of leaving is now in charge so with a big majority so, assuming he had a carefully thought out plan that he can now implement it’ll all be fine. Life after Brexit is going to be brilliant. I can’t see how there could be any downside.
First of six explanatory articles about what Brexit is going to mean to British and EU residents and citizens. Non-partisan, as far as I could tell.
This one explains how rights of residence and citizenship are affected. A freely downloadable PDF file.
The main things I gleaned from this article that were interesting to me:
Legally-resident people and their dependants at the time of the Withdrawal Agreement are guaranteed that their right of residence will not be changed during their lifetime as long as they remain resident in that country. A British citizen who has legal resident status in a particular EU country will not have that status in any other EU country after the Withdrawal Agreement, should they wish to move.
Make sure, if you’re an EU citizen resident in the UK or a UK person resident anywhere else in the EU, that your residency is legally recognised. Do it ASAP.
Any political rights you currently have in an EU country of residence will end. Similar situation for EU citizens legally resident in the UK. No more right to vote in either local or national elections where you live after the Withdrawal Agreement comes into force.
I reckon it’d be a good idea to keep an eye out for the 5 following articles if you’re likely to be affected.
I think my brother-in-law and his partner, who live in Spanish territory and have done so for well over a decade now, have the right to vote in at least local elections over there. I may be wrong, but that’s what I understand – I’ll ask him next time he pops up on the internet.
Accordong to the EU website, if you are an EU national living in another EU country, you have the right to vote and stand as a candidate in municipal elections in that country.
They have that right at the moment, and perhaps during the transition period, but after that it depends on the deal. If there is no deal they definitely lose the right to vote in local elections, can still vote in UK national elections until they’ve been off the electoral register for fifteen years and can only vote in Spanish national elections if they get citizenship. I think.
My friend Elizabeth, who’s lived in France for many years and owns the property there that she lives in, is quite exercised over this. She’s been voting in local elections for a good while and is concerned that she won’t be able to once the transition period ends.
She is wheelchair-bound and reliant on some local services in relation to that and is involved in a local classical music and choral group (she sings soprano) which depends upon financial support from the local government. She also has AirB&B-ers occasionally staying in part of her property and doesn’t know how this might be affected after Brexit.
Very useful information. Thanks for highlighting it @Mike_H
There seems to be some confusion over voting rights. The UK citizens in Europe document suggests that for UK citizens resident in the EU, voting rights in European and local elections will end on January 31st next week. Only citizens are eligible to vote in national elections. But the UK government website says that in Spain (haven’t looked at other countries), voting rights will continue for local elections. I’m not sure whether this is a right the Spanish government has granted in addition to the rights laid out in the WA. Much of the information available on the UK embassy in Madrid website and the Spanish government website is not up to date. I have a British friend who is deputy mayor of our local village, and she has no idea of her job status come February 1st.
I scoffed at the ‘Little Englanders’ that wanted their blue passports back because I couldn’t see how the colour matters but, when mine needs replacing later this year, I think I’m going to be embarrassed each time I need to present my new blue one. I would have replaced it early if they hadn’t changed the rules about overlap.
I recently bought a ticket for a flight from Berlin to London and back. As the return flight is after Brexit day, the confirmation came with a disclaimer (in very small print) stating that British Airways doesn’t guarantee “full service” after January 31 for journeys into the EU.
Last Summer eldest Nogkid and I along with some mates, went to Madrid for the Chumps League final..Yes, I know..
Our flights took us from London to Stuttgart and then to Valencia..
One of the many highlights was that of some of the more meat-headed Spurs fans boldly declaring that ” We’re not going thru’ the fackin’ European passport queue,” once we got to Germany and making a great show of pointing out to each other that we were now out of Europe.
Their determination evaporated fairly rapidly following a brief quiet chat with a small coterie of armed German Airport security well-wishers..The British Bulldogs slunk quietly to the back of the same queue as the rest of us, muttering darkly, thus prefiguring the subsequent and coming negotiations..
Make sure to confirm that she has legal resident status before the end of the transition period and then she is guaranteed residency for her lifetime under British, European and International law.
I expect (knowing our current government) that getting that confirmation will be needlessly difficult and also expensive.
Son has just come back from a sabbatical uni term in Dublin, where he was able to study due to EU tuition fee rates. That window of opportunity has now closed. As the French friend he made on the course said; “What do you English gain from this?”.
yes
Yebbut, see if you can get someone else to taste any rat you’re offered, just in case it’s off.
OK, another question. Does the free movement of goods continue, at least until the end of 2020 or will documents such as carnets be required from February 1st?
Will I still be able to buy boxsets I never play from Am*z*n France, Spain, Italy and Germany when that git Paul at SDE tells me there’s a bargain going down. I’m beginning to think Mrs F is right.
Basically everything will be the same other then not having any MEPs but we’re not obliged to enact any legislation passed either.
I shall be very down on 1st Feb. Nothing we can do about it but it will be shit the day after, and the idiots who want to ring bells can fuck right off.
I see we have a Brexit Party MEP froth on Twitter asking who the hell is going to be holding the EU to account and supporting Britain’s position about fishing rights now that there are no UK representatives present?
It’s a good point isn’t it?
Brexit MEP demonstrates brain donor status… shock, horror…
It’ll be fine. One of the main advocates of leaving is now in charge so with a big majority so, assuming he had a carefully thought out plan that he can now implement it’ll all be fine. Life after Brexit is going to be brilliant. I can’t see how there could be any downside.
He did have a plan didn’t he?
Mummery-flummery.
First of six explanatory articles about what Brexit is going to mean to British and EU residents and citizens. Non-partisan, as far as I could tell.
This one explains how rights of residence and citizenship are affected. A freely downloadable PDF file.
https://britishineurope.org/2020/01/21/the-withdrawal-agreement/?fbclid=IwAR03-db5ojdLaAzwQCsswRVvlKGT_8RixShXBYryD-oQ5Gh3hbIWxek5Qu0
The main things I gleaned from this article that were interesting to me:
Legally-resident people and their dependants at the time of the Withdrawal Agreement are guaranteed that their right of residence will not be changed during their lifetime as long as they remain resident in that country. A British citizen who has legal resident status in a particular EU country will not have that status in any other EU country after the Withdrawal Agreement, should they wish to move.
Make sure, if you’re an EU citizen resident in the UK or a UK person resident anywhere else in the EU, that your residency is legally recognised. Do it ASAP.
Any political rights you currently have in an EU country of residence will end. Similar situation for EU citizens legally resident in the UK. No more right to vote in either local or national elections where you live after the Withdrawal Agreement comes into force.
I reckon it’d be a good idea to keep an eye out for the 5 following articles if you’re likely to be affected.
Thanks for highlighting these papers.
“No more right to vote in either local or national elections where you live”.
It’s democracy innit? Takin’ back control, innit?
FFS
I’m not sure I had the right to vote when I lived in France.
I think my brother-in-law and his partner, who live in Spanish territory and have done so for well over a decade now, have the right to vote in at least local elections over there. I may be wrong, but that’s what I understand – I’ll ask him next time he pops up on the internet.
Accordong to the EU website, if you are an EU national living in another EU country, you have the right to vote and stand as a candidate in municipal elections in that country.
https://europa.eu/youreurope/citizens/residence/elections-abroad/municipal-elections/index_en.htm#shortcut-5
They have that right at the moment, and perhaps during the transition period, but after that it depends on the deal. If there is no deal they definitely lose the right to vote in local elections, can still vote in UK national elections until they’ve been off the electoral register for fifteen years and can only vote in Spanish national elections if they get citizenship. I think.
I think that’s the case here too – locals only, and EU of course.
My friend Elizabeth, who’s lived in France for many years and owns the property there that she lives in, is quite exercised over this. She’s been voting in local elections for a good while and is concerned that she won’t be able to once the transition period ends.
She is wheelchair-bound and reliant on some local services in relation to that and is involved in a local classical music and choral group (she sings soprano) which depends upon financial support from the local government. She also has AirB&B-ers occasionally staying in part of her property and doesn’t know how this might be affected after Brexit.
Very useful information. Thanks for highlighting it @Mike_H
There seems to be some confusion over voting rights. The UK citizens in Europe document suggests that for UK citizens resident in the EU, voting rights in European and local elections will end on January 31st next week. Only citizens are eligible to vote in national elections. But the UK government website says that in Spain (haven’t looked at other countries), voting rights will continue for local elections. I’m not sure whether this is a right the Spanish government has granted in addition to the rights laid out in the WA. Much of the information available on the UK embassy in Madrid website and the Spanish government website is not up to date. I have a British friend who is deputy mayor of our local village, and she has no idea of her job status come February 1st.
Sounds about right. Let’s get Brexit done, eh? Fucking morons voted for by fucking morons.
/ffffft
The 1st Feb is my birthday.
I’ll be 64.
I won’t be celebrating.
Pencil, you should be celebrating, in fact we all should be celebrating your birthday, as a big two fingers up to the Brexiteers!
We must not let the bastards take away all our moments of joy.
From now on Feb 1 is officially Pencil Day. We can all get behind that.
I scoffed at the ‘Little Englanders’ that wanted their blue passports back because I couldn’t see how the colour matters but, when mine needs replacing later this year, I think I’m going to be embarrassed each time I need to present my new blue one. I would have replaced it early if they hadn’t changed the rules about overlap.
Will my EuroMillions ticket still be valid?
Is the UK exiting Eurovision too? I think we probably should…
Yes please.
Well, given Australia is in Eurovision, I can’t see Brexit excluding you.
And Israel and Switzerland and Norway*
* if they qualify
I have a UK passport valid till 2027. If they tell me I need to replace it I simply won’t bother. I’m a Canadian too.
Interestingly, on Feb 2nd England go to Paris to play their first game of this year’s 6 nations. Wonder if the team/fans will be let in ?
I recently bought a ticket for a flight from Berlin to London and back. As the return flight is after Brexit day, the confirmation came with a disclaimer (in very small print) stating that British Airways doesn’t guarantee “full service” after January 31 for journeys into the EU.
Last Summer eldest Nogkid and I along with some mates, went to Madrid for the Chumps League final..Yes, I know..
Our flights took us from London to Stuttgart and then to Valencia..
One of the many highlights was that of some of the more meat-headed Spurs fans boldly declaring that ” We’re not going thru’ the fackin’ European passport queue,” once we got to Germany and making a great show of pointing out to each other that we were now out of Europe.
Their determination evaporated fairly rapidly following a brief quiet chat with a small coterie of armed German Airport security well-wishers..The British Bulldogs slunk quietly to the back of the same queue as the rest of us, muttering darkly, thus prefiguring the subsequent and coming negotiations..
Will Mrs F (who, being half-and-half Spanish/Scottish, looks a bit ‘foreign’, and who was raised in France) be deported? And where to?
Corby?
Too many Weegies there for an Aberdonian.
Lowestoft?
Make sure to confirm that she has legal resident status before the end of the transition period and then she is guaranteed residency for her lifetime under British, European and International law.
I expect (knowing our current government) that getting that confirmation will be needlessly difficult and also expensive.
Thanks. She was born in Scotland before Europe was invented (in the UK), so I think I’m safe.
Son has just come back from a sabbatical uni term in Dublin, where he was able to study due to EU tuition fee rates. That window of opportunity has now closed. As the French friend he made on the course said; “What do you English gain from this?”.
Que dalle.
Funny, but of all the people in Europe it was always the English I disliked the most.
If anyone were to call me a traitor – and I’d advise they didn’t – I’d say, “Yep, you’d better believe it.”
All of them?
The general demeanour would suggest so.
Nice.