The official announcement is imminent, the SH Forum is alive with excitement, tracklistings of the formats have been posted, and there’s a song up on Spotify, YouTube etc.
Squeeee!
Bob Dylan Bootleg Series Vol. 14 – More Blood, More Tracks
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I’m excite
I guess it’s a question of how much Dylan do you need/can you take.
I will probably go for the single CD version.
I’ve found the tack listing (for those who like lists) both for the 6 CD Deluxe and the single CD plebs’ version:
-DELUXE-
DISC 1
1. If You See Her, Say Hello (Take 1)
2. If You See Her, Say Hello (Take 2)
3. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 1)
4. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 2)
5. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 1)
6. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 2)
7. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 3)
8. Up to Me (Rehearsal)
9. Up to Me (Take 1)
10. Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts (Take 1)
11. Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts (Take 2)
DISC 2
1. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 1A)
2. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 2A)
3. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 3A)
4. Call Letter Blues (Take 1)
5. Meet Me in the Morning (Take 1)
6. Call Letter Blues (Take 2)
7. Idiot Wind (Take 1)
8. Idiot Wind (Take 1, Remake)
9. Idiot Wind (Take 3 with insert)
10. Idiot Wind (Take 5)
11. Idiot Wind (Take 6)
12. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Rehearsal and Take 1)
13. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 2)
14. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 3)
15. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 4)
16. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 5)
17. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 6)
18. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 6, Remake)
19. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 7)
20. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 8)
DISC 3
1. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 1)
2. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 1, Remake)
3. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 2, Remake)
4. Tangled Up in Blue (Rehearsal)
5. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 2, Remake)
6. Spanish Is the Loving Tongue (Take 1)
7. Call Letter Blues (Rehearsal)
8. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 1, Remake)
9. Shelter from the Storm (Take 1)
10. Buckets of Rain (Take 1)
11. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 3, Remake)
12. Buckets of Rain (Take 2)
13. Shelter from the Storm (Take 2)
14. Shelter from the Storm (Take 3)
15. Shelter from the Storm (Take 4)
DISC 4
1. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 1, Remake 2)
2. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 2, Remake 2)
3. Buckets of Rain (Take 1, Remake)
4. Buckets of Rain (Take 2, Remake)
5. Buckets of Rain (Take 3, Remake)
6. Buckets of Rain (Take 4, Remake)
7. Up to Me (Take 1, Remake)
8. Up to Me (Take 2, Remake)
9. Buckets of Rain (Take 1, Remake 2)
10. Buckets of Rain (Take 2, Remake 2)
11. Buckets of Rain (Take 3, Remake 2)
12. Buckets of Rain (Take 4, Remake 2)
13. If You See Her, Say Hello (Take 1, Remake)
14. Up to Me (Take 1, Remake 2)
15. Up to Me (Take 2, Remake 2)
16. Up to Me (Take 3, Remake 2)
17. Buckets of Rain (Rehearsal)
18. Meet Me in the Morning (Take 1, Remake)
19. Meet Me in the Morning (Take 2, Remake)
20. Buckets of Rain (Take 5, Remake 2)
DISC 5
1. Tangled Up in Blue (Rehearsal and Take 1, Remake 2)
2. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 2, Remake 2)
3. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 3, Remake 2)
4. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 2, Remake)
5. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 3, Remake)
6. Up to Me (Rehearsal and Take 1, Remake 3)
7. Up to Me (Take 2, Remake 3)
8. Idiot Wind (Rehearsal and Takes 1-3, Remake)
9. Idiot Wind (Take 4, Remake)
10. Idiot Wind (Take 4, Remake with organ overdub)
11. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 1, Remake 2)
12. Meet Me in the Morning (Take 1, Remake 2)
13. Meet Me in the Morning (Takes 2-3, Remake 2)
DISC 6
1. You’re a Big Girl Now (Takes 3-6, Remake 2)
2. Tangled Up in Blue (Rehearsal and Takes 1-2, Remake 3)
3. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 3, Remake 3)
4. Idiot Wind
5. You’re a Big Girl Now
6. Tangled up in Blue
7. Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts
8. If You See Her, Say Hello
-SINGLE DISC-
1. Tangled Up in Blue (Take 3, Remake 3)
2. Simple Twist of Fate (Take 1)
3. Shelter from the Storm (Take 2)
4. You’re a Big Girl Now (Take 2)
5. Buckets of Rain (Take 2, Remake)
6. If You See Her, Say Hello (Take 1 Edit)
7. Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts (Take 2)
8. Meet Me in the Morning (Take 1, Remake Edit)
9. Idiot Wind (Take 4, Remake Edit)
10. You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 1, Remake 2)
11. Up to Me (Take 2, Remake)
Lovely. Am I correct in thinking the Remakes are from December 27-30 in Minneapolis and the others are from September 16-19 in New York?
I spent many a fine hour comparing the New York and Minnesota versions thanks to Bootleg Bill
I read somewhere that only the last 5 tracks are from Minneapolis, other tapes went missing. I am a bit confused though.
I think those last 5 on disc 6 are the ones actually released on the album in 1975. Surely, the others aren’t all from New York!
They are all from the New York sessions except for the 5 from Minneapolis which are on the original BOTTs album.
Thanks for the clarification. I wonder if there were no outtakes from Minneapolis, then. Just the masters used for the album survived.
I’ll be going for the plebs’ single CD version, and will probably pick up a copy of Vol.13 while I’m at it.
Single one for me too I think!
Pity the civilian version isn’t a 2CD set…..? But you have to hand it to them, they do a lovely job on these – the 6CD set looks gorgeous.
Never did the buttons on somebody’s jacket sound so crystal clear.
12 versions of You’re Gonna Make me Lonesome. I think I am out. I think the style of last year’s Trouble No More is more to my taste than this. Also the creation of these songs holds less interest to me than in the 65-66 era. The final album is more or less perfect, I don’t think I need more.
No double CD version? How disappointing. The single CD will have to do for me then. I have all the Bootleg releases, and have comforted myself with the thought that I will be in a twilight home before Columbia get round to releasing the 50 CD set of Great American Songbook alternative versions and outtakes.
I don’t actually see the point. I have the “original” and the alternate session versions, ain’t that enough?
The point is to a) keep it in copyright and b) fleece boomers.
I read that first as “fleece bloomers”.
Mind you, it is autumn!
Winter draw(er)s on, missus.
Actually I’m now an all-year-round gal as far as Big Pants* are concerned. Comfort is everything.
*(like Big Pharma, but, er, bigger)
Just spent the afternoon stapling the felt-lining in mine.
Gets reet parky up north thy knows.
I’m in for the 6xCD and the LP. Some Dylan ‘fans’ have complained that there’s too much repetition but how do you go about putting together a SE for a single album such as BOTTs?
They could have replicated the original NY acetate but then they break the sessions up, more complaints follow. It’s a pity the Minneapolis tapes couldn’t be found. Apparently Bob’s brother David who had a role in the Minneapolis studios was, err, responsible.
Roll on a complete Rolling Thunder box next year and maybe a Desire BS 15.
What a pile of shite and a monumental waste of money. 12 versions of Buckets of rain?
The officially released version is enough for me – I don’t need the noodling and the mistakes – will leave those for people with more money than sense.
I agree with @bungliemutt – a 2cd version would have been a nice option.
Thinking what feckin` day it is is hard enough for you @SteveT, you senile old coot.
You need to stop posting the same reaction to every Bootleg Series release every year. Go and put that Ken Dodd CD on you bought at the market in Brum, that should calm you down.
Hey Retro! Stop moanin` if you have enough why read all the posts about the bloody thing.
Right that`s me done back to de-frosting the feckin` freeezer.
Here is my cut out and keep guide to the bootleg series as to whether they work as albums that can reward repeated listening:
Vols 1 to 3 (Rare and Unreleased) : Definitely
Vol 4 (1966 live) : Oh yes, one of the greatest live albums ever released
Vol 5 (1975 live) : I think so, but not as much as vol. 4
Vol 6 (1964 Live) : Somewhat, have played it about 3 times
Vol 7 (No Direction Home) : Not too much
Vol 8 (Tell Tale Signs) : Excellent compilation
Vol 9 (Witmark Demos) : No
Vol 10 (Another Self Portrait) : Yes
Vol 11 (The Basement Tapes) : Yes to the 2CD version, haven’t played the full version more than twice
Vol 12 (Cutting Edge) : Same as Vol 11, never made it through 18 CDs, 6 CD version maybe once
Vol 13 (Trouble No More) : Definitely, live stuff is a revelation
Vol 14 (MBMT) : Doubtful
I have never got the Basement Tapes or Trouble No More as I hanker after the full fat versions but just know I would play them about twice and I can’t justify the outlay. Maybe I should just get the 2CD versions and be done with it (also they aren’t my favourite Dylan periods, which has probably also had something to do with it). I only got the 2CD Another Self Portrait for similar reasons, although I was there at the Isle Of Wight and really should get the 4CD set. The Cutting Edge 6CDs was enough for me, as also cost was an issue.
Totally agree with most assessments – the real surprise was Tell Tale Signs, which is terrific.
@dai agree wholeheartedly re 1,8 and 11(2 cd).
11 6cd was a bridge too far for me – beautifully packaged but I cant listen to a package. There was an awful lot of stop/start/pissing around. Havent got time to waste on nonsense – Baron clearly prefrs it to defrosting the freezer – he might be right on that count. Just.
Look @SteveT, In the ’80’s me and my mates were spending £5 for Dylan bootlegs on C60 & C90 SA tapes at record fairs, with inflation that’s around £20 today. Most 4th or 5th generation and crap sounding. More Blood, More Tracks is going to cost me around £85-£90 for 6 CDs in a beautiful box* with books. I don’t feel I’m paying too much when taking the tapes into account. If I did I wouldn’t buy it. I can understand for people with attention deficit syndrome as yourself more than one CD is too much and that’s OK. 💿
*That cover? The series is called The BOOTLEG Series.
Seriously though, what is it with Dylan and shite album covers? This one looks like it’s someone’s photoshop homework.
I think the clue may be in the titles. The covers look like bootlegs.
Vols 1 to 4 had quite cool covers.
Dylan hasn’t had a decent album cover since Slow Train Coming, except maybe Oh Mercy. Discuss.
Does Christmas In The Heart count?
Yes. Great sleeve. Great album. Not least because of the amount of Ebenezering it generates.
“The Heart of Christmas in the Heart” is one 11CD box I’m up for. The hardback book includes Bob’s drafts for Christmas cracker jokes and a knitting pattern for a brightly coloured sweater that says, “It’s Christmas – Get Fookin’ Loud!”
Didn’t the original release come with Christmas cards?
Yep. Sprouts too.
*parrp*
Together Through Life is good. The rot set in with Tempest, I think.
Not only do some bootlegs have great covers, earlier releases of Dylan’s bootleg series have had great covers. Plus, Dylan’s recent non-bootleg series release have had shite covers. I see a pattern.
I’ve had an e-mail from Super DeLuxe Editions about this set. The 6 CD set will retail at a whopping £150 from Amazon UK. This apparently justified by the packaging which features a hardcover book with sleeve notes by Jeff Slate, photographs, and most excitingly a complete reproduction of one of Dylan’s legendary handwritten 57 page notebooks, where you can follow the lyrical development of the songs.
You can order from Amazon US for about £120:50 ($160). However I guess p&p will add a bit more to that. Plus there is a good chance you’ll have to pay tax, which isn’t so much in itself, but my experience is that the Royal Mail “administration fee” is about three times the actual tax, and they won’t hand it over until that is paid.
Double vinyl is £19 and the single CD £10 from the Dodgers.
£150?! I’m out…
Edit – currently says £251 !!
The Amazon price will drop, that is a certainty. Which Euro Amazon it will be with, that I don`t know. Amazon Italy is a good bet.
However the 6xCD SE is £99.99 at Badlands;
http://www.badlands.co.uk/dylan/
My mate Beolab 1700 will be selling this on the day after release at a price roughly £99.99 less than Badlands which will, of course, include a PDF of the booklet, liner notes, Dylan’s scribbles etc. Any fool who pays more than that is a fool (see the end of Tiggs’ Doors thread)
You are stealing money out of tiny Zimmerman baby mouths.
And you don’t wanna hear those screaming.
Zimmerman babies each now have a trust fund the size of Kilimanjaro – them don’t need no £99.99 and neither do these greedy slimy sharky despots known as “Record Company Executives” .
You seem to live off a trust fund yourself, as the idea that someone gets paid for his work seems foreign to you.
I beg your pardon, I certainly never promised you a rose garden. I have absolutely no problem with stealing Bob’s latest £99.99 ( let me repeat that figure £99.99!!!!!!) release. I have every problem stealing a young artist’s first album. The entire industry surrounding 50th Anniversary limited edition, Steven Wilson remixed, exclusive 100 page booklet, never seen before photographs releases is morally corrupt and, at least to this old hippy, offensive beyond belief.
But and but – I shall listen to this particular album approximately 356 consecutive times
https://entertainment.theonion.com/new-beatles-box-set-features-172-unreleased-songs-about-1829195440
The Onion ceased to be funny 20 years ago.
What’s the cheapest these sets usually drop to? I kinda really want the 65-66 complete sessions, but I wouldn’t pay more than £50 for it. Should I give up now?
In the past, on ordering the vinyl (from amazon uk), I have been rewarded with the full set as mp3 downloads.
Which is possibly the better way to listen to it and start making your own mix ‘n match compilations of the best tracks.
Lordy, thank the lord they are codified against dropping them to anyone’s boxes or there could be concerns.
I know! Imagine the chaos that would ensue if dai was somehow able to share these files with us……
If you are prepared to wait you can sometimes get a bargain but it means keeping a check on the Amazons. They usually have promotions where you can buy the BS releases for 50% of the initial price but you have to be quick, they may be up for between 5 minutes or 5 days.
Myself, prior to getting these SE thingies, I have to make room for storage. That means selling off a number of LPs/CDs that I no longer play to make room and make enough to pay for the thingies. The last sale I had through Discogs & eBay was very successful. That’s how I will now finance future purchases. Yes I can get hold of these Bootleg Series very cheap or for nothing. A member of this forum got me the 18 CD ‘Cutting Edge’ BS, AKA ‘Big Blue’ or it’s digital equivalent free and I still think of his generosity and thank him once again. The thing is I love to hold these thingies in my hand. Just seen pictures of ‘The White Album’ 50th boxes, they’re beautiful, can’t wait to get them.
While I still can.
Listening to 8 different versions of the same track in succession (Disc 2) is less than appealing, unless you’re planning on writing a thesis on it’s evolution, I suppose. I’m not, as it happens, so despite BOTT being my all-time favourite-est Dylan album I’m going to pass on the multi-disc set.
Might get the single-disc one at some future point.
I realise there are obsessives who demand the release of every song, cough and fart that Bobby the Zee ever produced, but surely a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
The rights owners for this stuff could produce nice well-curated expanded versions of each album, and representative new albums from his most memorable tours and then sanction all of the rest for free download via etree.org or some such organisation.
The big rights owners are milking their vaults (and their established artists’ captive fanbase) outrageously, when they should be recording new stuff by new artists.
Vault-milking, boomer-fleecing, finger-lickin’ goooood.
Thank you, Mike, for the sanest of sane view on these bloody releases. Hope Fatima reads thi
I agree with what you say Mike. However I have two points to make.
1) Some of the versions on this release are superior to the released version on BOTT.
2) How many people reading this actually buy new music by new acts? I do and I know that 3-4 more people on the AW buy new physical product by new acts.
As I’ve already stated I’m getting this SE and the thought makes me happy.
Mike your points make the most sense on this thread. The tossers who are foisting this regurgitated crap on us should be directing their massive funds to promoting new artists.Unfortunately it is not as profitable as flogging a dead horse.
Aren’t there two pretty seperate markets? Us oldies on The Afterword lap up these repackaged ‘classics’. New artists tend to be bought by other people. A company worth its salt and wanting to make money would do both, not just one or the other.
No problem with the two markets thing. It’s the rip-off prices of these 50th Anniversary releases that offend. I’m as big a fan of Bob as can be (let’s forget the Sinatra & Xmas hokum) but, for instance, take Another Self Portrait. I think it’s a masterpiece, a revelation but how many times have I played it all the way through – ten at the very most. 27 versions of Tell Her I Say Hello for 99 smackers?? Mike H says it all better than what I can do
As consumers, we can choose not to buy. I’m in for the single disc of outtakes of this. The huge Basements Tapes box was bought for me as a present, but I love the mystery of those recordings. It’s designed to be dipped into, rather consumed at once.
It’s not so much about the music but the artefact. We are meant to be buying a work of art. The Pepper box is a thing of beauty, for example, but I only listen to an MP3 rip of the remix album. I expect to have to fork out big time for The White Album.
Electric Ladyland at fifty quid is giving pause for thought. I listened to the album the other day and it does need freshening up. I may succumb if the reviews of the remix are favourable.
The Bob Clearmountain Big Pink sounds wonderful and is reasonably priced.
I pick and choose my moments with The Stones.
If there are Dylan fans willing to buy this BOTT, they know exactly what they are getting. They may want to stroke the box. They may listen to the music obsessively. Who knows? The price is at a level the market will stand. It might settle. My experience of leaving it a year or two is that the price doesn’t come down much after the first month or so.
You always have the eel market, if you wish.
Ah, but my point is that compulsive collector types are compelled to buy such stuff so that it can sit on their shelves to be admired and stroked. The Record Companies know they are dealing with addicts and addicts will pay anything for their next fix
As I get older, I become more convinced of the utter pointlessness of collecting anything – records, books, Green Shield Stamps, whatever. It’s just stuff and it’s a burden and we’ll all be dead soon anyway.
Green Shield stamps get licked as well as stroked.
…er…
Yes – and people who do that don’t really love music anymore, they just love… having stuff.
There’s a compulsion out there for everyone. If companies weren’t allowed to release product in case it fed a compulsion, there’d be no companies and no products.
So drug dealers can carry on dealing drugs then? Pity those old men (almost exclusively they are old men) with a disposable income for the first time in their sad little lives who think nothing of paying £99.99 for a box set they will never actually play more than once. Just say NO!!!
Aye. You could get a prozzie and a fish supper for that.
You are right and I am cancelling my pre-orders of The Kinks and Lennon SDE box sets …… (er … probably).
Hey Lodey, are you attempting to take the place of someone who left here recently with that comment?
I know you are a good man but your comment about ‘old men’ thinking nothing of spending £99.99 ‘in their sad little lives,’ is completely OUT OF ORDER!
I am now retired having worked for 50 years, I do not have a large pension, I should be so lucky. The last 10 years I earned the Minimum Wage, through choice I admit, I wanted to help people. I got a pension payout of £650 for those 10 years. I suppose you were right about ‘disposable income,’ it’s not bloody hard to dispose of £650!
I also do not lead a ‘sad little life’ you condescending twot. I pity you and your little mind.
Right I’m off until tomorrow because I’m bloody seething.
Apologies if my piss taking was taken seriously. Of course people can spend their hard-earned (or even ill-gained) money any way they like. I often forget that my attempts at humour may come across as condescending when if you could hear the smile on my face you might join in too. Hope you slept well
Yet you said to SteveT he had Attention Defecit Disorder up on this very thread.
I know I should probably butt out, it’s not my argument, but I am confuse.
Before we have another flounce on our hands, look at all previous exchanges between @steveT and @baron-harkonnen : they are our own Statler and Waldorf. They are chums so can call each other out with glee. @Lodestone-of-Wrongness is in the corner in a country soon to be out of bounds, thus, technically, a stranger. As ever the problem of the printed word read on a page. I am sure it was all tongue in cheek but with sensitivities from times here when there was uncertainty as to which tongue and which cheek.
So it’s fine if you are “chums.” Understood.
@Loadstone_of_Wrongness. Thank you for your ‘apology’. Unfortunately your ‘piss taking’ came across badly and appeared far from a joke. I love humour and would like to think that I have the disposition to appreciate a joke, a pull of the leg, a jest. I think you get my drift. Yours was a poor joke Lodey, very poor, with several digs. I could have replied in a much stronger tone, which your post deserved but bit my tongue. I won’t make assumptions as to why you worded your ‘piss take’ the way you did, I leave you to ponder the reason. We have had good banter in the past and I would like that to continue, if you care to look at a post I left above you will know that I have no problem with you. Normally.
I even read your post on the economic state of the planet post ’08 fall, in full. Couple of contradictions, however nobody’s perfect.
End of matter.
@MC_Escher, thank for pointing out my comments to @SteveT, you were not to know myself and Steve are good mates. As part of my ‘Care In The Community Project’ of which Steve is the only customer I often push his bath chair around his local habitat avoiding populated areas because he has a tendency to swear at women walking their dogs.
Edit: Hi MC, my reply to yourself and Lodey ended up at the bottom of this thread so you may not have seen my reply which I have re-posted here. Regarding you comment “So it`s fine if you are `chums`. ”
Something tells me you don`t approve, reproach me if I“m wrong. SteveT and myself are friends (chums to you) away
from the AW and we have banter, we laugh, we `take the piss` as someone said. We discuss politcs, world dilemmas, Tory twots, sport, beer, music, movies, Brexit, books, family and other shyte. I may often tell him and him me, that he`s a c%nt and other delightfull names. That`s what friends do, we live in dark times and we like to laugh when we can.
No probs at all Baron. I feel protective towards LoW, he brings out my mothering instinct 😉
Well if you’re volunteering, he does need changing..
Though newer artists are for younger people who are less likely to shell out for physical products. The oldies like us who do buy product seem to like having reworked versions of what we already own marketed to us, especially if it’s in a lovely box and and can classified as an artefact, almost a relic. I won’t be buying these big box sets, unless I happen to see them for a couple of quid in a charity shop, but I understand and share the nature of our acquisitiveness, and the industry that feeds it.
BOTT is the finest LP ever pressed. I shall henceforth sell the FPO and all her possessions in a monster boot sale in order to procure a copy. See you in court.
All that for ninety nine quid?
Sold!
I wonder what caused Dylan to start falling asleep while he wrote that 4th verse.
I shall be going the full monty. Usual naysayers making the usual naysays.
Packages are fantastic. Will play infrequently most likely. Tell Tale and Gospel get most airtime of others followed by Rolling Thunder.
https://variety.com/2018/music/news/bob-dylan-blood-on-the-tracks-boxed-set-1202950208/
Your first sentence indicates a brave and interesting change of career, but I fail to see its relevance to this thread.
You may not want it but that’s an UP from me
You can leave your pillbox hat on.
Jings, two Ups in a row! Youse on fire baby
Tangled up in ups here.
Cease immediately, I seem to be out of Ups
Admin for some reason I cannot reply to comments up-page, could you investigate.
Thank you.
You’ve run out space on the right hand side. If you reply to yourself, you’ll come in under retro’s muppet remarks. 😀
A`ha!
To @Loadstone_of_Wrongness. Thank you for your ‘apology’. Unfortunately your ‘piss taking’ came across badly and appeared far from a joke. I love humour and would like to think that I have the disposition to appreciate a joke, a pull of the leg, a jest. I think you get my drift. Yours was a poor joke Lodey, very poor, with several digs. I could have replied in a much stronger tone, which your post deserved but bit my tongue. I won’t make assumptions as to why you worded your ‘piss take’ the way you did, I leave you to ponder the reason. We have had good banter in the past and I would like that to continue, if you care to look at a post I left above you will know that I have no problem with you. Normally.
I even read your post on the economic state of the planet post ’08 fall, in full. Couple of contradictions, however nobody’s perfect.
End of matter.
@MC_Escher, thank for pointing out my comments to @SteveT, you were not to know myself and Steve are good mates. As part of my ‘Care In The Community Project’ of which Steve is the only customer I often push his bath chair around his local habitat avoiding populated areas because he has a tendency to swear at women walking their dogs.
@retropath2, thanks mate for coming to my defence. I am aware of where Lodey resides but he’s no ‘stranger,’ he once did me a huge favour of which I am still greatfull. Any good Americana tips, Steve keeps going on about the feckin’ Oh Sees, they sound like Nirvana crossed with Abba.
I`ve re-posted the first two thirds of the above to where they should be displayed. Apologies for repeats.
Have you tried Curse of Lono? The first is great and I am waiting till a Dec Brum gig before considering the latest: Dec 1st at the Dark Horse in Moseley, @SteveT
Deep Dark Woods, technically Canadiana (and technically 2017), but I have only just listened to Yarrow, which has dark anglo-folk (rock) hues to a wide open plains feel, along with a hint of twang.
Must dash, dissing big box sets won’t happen all by itself.
Hi Retro, I saw Curse Of Lono supporting Chuck Prophet in `16 or `17 in Birmingham with Steve and they were superb. It was only when I got home that I looked into them and discovered the main man, Felix Bechtolsheimer was the leader of early 2000`s British Roots band `Hey Negrta` whose music I love but never saw them live. If you don`t have any of HN`s albums I can`t recommend them highly enough.
I contacted the Felix Bechtolsheimer just to get gig dates from him and details of how to order the first album direct. I spoke about `HN` with him, anyhow when he sent the LP & CDs I ordered direct he through some Hey Negrita 7″ singles in. I don`t think the band sell their albums direct any longer, they provide Amazon/iTunes links on their site. I have the new LP and it`s good, some stuff in recognisable COL/HN style but it took a little longer to absorb.
Deep Dark Woods I know, I have 4 albums by them, been a fan a while now.
Just listening to a David Crosby band album, `Crosby, Pevar, Raymond` – `Live At The Wiltern`. It`s a live album recorded in the `00`s and it`s very good. Crosby himself has a new album out soon the 4th in 4/5 years. The last 3 are amongst his finest work.
“Electric Ladyland” needs “freshening up?”
No it doesn’t it’s b****** “Electric Ladyland!”
However, I like these reissues (O.K., maybe not this one from after the Golden Age) because (a) I get to read all about them again in Mojo, Uncut etc. and (b) I can dig out the perfectly reasonable version I have and play that again.
Peeps, it is a “buyer’s” market, and it has been a “buyer’s” market for at least 15 years.
Yes.
Electric Ladyland has always sounded like future to me, until I listened to it the other day after playing the remix of Big Pink & Sgt Pepper. I, for one, am looking forward to the 50th anniversary edition.
All this bickering means that I’m well on my way to a super deluxe Blood On The Hamper, so thanks chaps!
Just to clarify I was taking the piss out of Baron as a good mate. It is what we do. I like Dylan very much but don’t need his outtakes or unfinished versions of songs I love.
However if Costello or say The Eels or Lucinda Williams were to release lavish boxsets of outtakes I would be first in line to part with my readies.
I don’t have a problem with deluxe boxsets just which ones they are.
Jings. Bodyguard is really overrated, isn’t it? But bloody hell, Ozark 2 may well be the best series ever, ever. Norwich won away and promotion is surely assured. In other news
And that’s the ton. Next stop two hundred comments aka More Blood, More Hampers.
In an effort to make a late and meaningful contribution to this thread (and add a salt sachet to the hamper) I’d like to say that ‘Blood on the Tracks’ scans perfectly with ‘Love on the Rocks’, and that whenever I hear the title of everyone’s second favourite Dylan album, the ‘I’m a Believer’ hitmaker immediately comes to mind.
Nobody else? As you were.
https://www.npr.org/2018/10/25/659791704/first-listen-bob-dylan-more-blood-more-tracks-the-bootleg-series-vol-14
10 track sampler streaming right now on NPR:
01 – Tangled Up In Blue (Take 3, Remake 3)
02 – If You See Her, Say Hello (Take 1)
03 – Up To Me (Take 1)
04 – You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go (Take 5)
05 – Lily, Rosemary And The Jack Of Hearts (Take 2)
06 – You’re A Big Girl Now (Take 2)
07 – Shelter From The Storm (Take 1)
08 – Call Letter Blues (Take 1)
09 – Simple Twist Of Fate (Take 3A)
10 – Idiot Wind (Take 6)
Ooh, ta!
For quite a long time BOTT was the only Dylan album I owned. The only one I was interested in owning, for that matter. It is rather good.
I have always only tolerated his harmonica playing for the sake of the excellent songs.
I have a more relaxed attitude to His Bobness these days, you may be pleased to hear. Even a vague interest.
In the days of my dodgy downloading of music from binary internet newsgroups (yes, that long ago) somebody digitised and sent out loads and loads of songs by other artists that Bob had played in concert. Original and other artists’ versions, plus Bob’s versions from various bootlegs. Also multifarious covers of Bob originals.
Fascinating and very instructive.
There is an excellent piece in The New Yorker by Alex Ross ( 13/11/18 ) about the recording of Blood On The Tracks and the recent More Blood, More Tracks Bootleg.
He says that the original (and best) version of the album was recorded September 1974 in Manhattan at Studio A ( Dylan’s favourite recording studio ).
You can put this darker and bleaker recording together from the 6 CD MBMT collection in this order:
CD 5 – Track 3
CD 5 – Track 5
CD 3 – Track 3
CD 5 – Track 10
CD 4 – Track 2
CD 2 – Track 5
CD 1 – Track 11
CD 4 – Track 13
CD 3 – Track 15
CD 4 – Track 12
I’ve played this collection 3 or 4 times now and while I love the official release of BOT, I prefer this melancholic ( almost unplugged ) version of the album. Outstanding !