The question when you set up your profile on the Afterword site. Those of you who might have answered neither: who would you choose instead? The mighty Who? The Kinks? Principal Edward’s Magic Theatre?
I choose Yardbirds…
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Alongside the Beetles and the Velvets, one of the most influential groups. More so in the US than the UK, but it’s arguable that the mid-sixties wave of garage bands, the Nuggets bands, got their inspiration from these guys. Alum guitarists: Eric Clapton, Jeff Beck, Jimmy Page. Maybe calling their should-have-been breakthrough album nothing (not even Roger The Engineer) didn’t help.
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Always thought K. Relf was the weak link – who knows where they would have gone with a better vocalist? Five Live Yardbirds ruthlessly exposes his limitations. Good on the gob-iron though.
Principal Edwards Magic Theatre, now, their vocalist was the only good thing about them. Vivienne McAuliffe, voice like an angel. Other bits like an angel too – met her in Paris in 1967 [@h-p-saucecraft, your open goal awaits] and lusted after her hopelessly and fruitlessly. Bought their first album on the strength of that, played it once.
As for the OP: Beatles Band.
The PEMT’s Soundtrack album (1969) has this extremely enticing track listing:
1. Enigmatic Insomniac Machine (5:00)
2. Sacrifice (7:18)
3. Death of Don Quixote (13:33)
4. Third Sonnet to Sundry Notes of Music (7:34)
5. To a Broken Guitar (2:41)
6. Pinky: A Mystery Cycle (9:53)
…..party on, dude!
The Princies (as absolutely nobody was calling them) were an awful thing. A bunch of students who formed a band because, well, they were a bunch of students who looked like they were in a band. I saw them live a couple of times (you couldn’t help it if you lived in the Midlands and went out in the evening) and the bar did wonderful business. Their albums are unlistenably wretched, too. Ghastly.
And here they are, in all their wondrous stupendidity. Le Theatre Magique de Monsieur Edouarde! (HP, first commenter has fond memories of seeing them ‘so many times’ in Kettering!) Amazingly, I learn from this clip, you could have gone to see them in London or you could have gone to see Ginger Rogers – that’s a strange glitch in the space/time continuum.
I saw PEMT as a naive 19 year old in London in 1973, I went because there would have been something in NME about how wonderful they were and whatever was said would have ticked my young boxes. But the support band, Henry Cow, really impressed me more, and I still listen to The Henry Cow Legend. I was so impressed when I discovered (= read in an interview) that the knitted sock was a pun. Oh silly, youthful me!
Weren’t they one of John Peel’s signings to his Dandelion label..? I seem to remember he promoted them mercilessly…
Yes, despite his Dandelion label partner describing them as pretentious twats, or words to that effect.
Even with the aid of a commentary in French and quite decent camerawork, the utter naffness of it all shines through.
My schoolmate Ray Smith painted the knitted socks. He showed me how he did it – just squeezing paint out of tubes.
That’s how artists paint, Mike.
Sometimes they smear it around a bit. But they charge extra for that
Without the intervention of a brush. 😉
*that was supposed to be an eye-rolling thing rather than a winky thing.*
I look forward to hearing more about this failed liaison at the NZ mingle.
Fuck I’d better do some homework then (*scurries to Google*)
Rest easy, I was referring to Mike’s failed liaison with the Princies’ singer
But @mousey I’ve just bought a ticket to your gig, so mind you practise now…
* abandons Google search, scurries to piano, just for @mikethep *
Apropos of nothing here related, but seeing as Americana is so big these days, let’s hear it for the Fraternity of Man, who invented country rock which begat etc etc. None of your International Submarine Band, this lot, yes, the DBMHMs from the Easy Rider soundtrack, were pedal steeling all over the place in 1968.
I learnt this truth yesterday, coming across their LP in the depths of the inter web.
More famous for having Mothers/Little Feat connections than country rock leanings, which aren’t much in evidence on this album. They made a second, Get It On, which jettisoned the great psych touches on this for a blues-n’-boogie approach, with Lowell George guesting.
For those of a (only slightly) younger bent if the question is designed to get at your deepest formative tribal musical allegiance then it has to be: Pistols, Clash or Jam?
Me: Jam.
Me too, I think. Pistols: no. Clash: head says yes, but heart says they were never as good as everybody said their were.
In this timeframe, it would be –
Me: Wire
I don’t know who came up with the Beatles/Stones question on the profile page, but originally it didn’t give you the “both or neither” options – so you were left with the perennial ’60s yin and yang. Maybe reflected the age profile of the Massive at the time (or still?)….I guess 99% were in one camp or the other, with the wilful outsiders picking, eg the Who, Kinks, Yardbirds….
1. Jam
2. Clash
3. Pistols
In that order.
Of course, there are those of us who are too young to have experienced Punk as it was going on. Some of us are even too young to have needed to form opinions about Oasis, Blur or Suede.
As you suggest: the Britpop equivalent question would be Blur versus Oasis….
…and the answer would be Pulp.
Dunno about that. I missed the sixties. The late seventies was my formative music time but the music I listened to was as much from the past as from the present. I still had a view on Stones/Beatles in other words. The Stones were the band that meant most to me probably. As for Jam, Clash, Pistols, I’d say none of the above. More likely Talking Heads out of contemporary bands. Those supposed punk bands were all a bit meat and potatoes musically. Now though I have developed a greater appreciation of the more dance music/reggae orientated Clash output, Radio Clash for example. I think I want that funkiness to be present. It’s wholly absent from Pistols/Jam. It’s there with the Heads and even the Stones.
All 3 were great, which will do for me, but the Pistols were the greatest.
Is nobody offering a Sham 69 option?
Up!
Sham 69 or Cockney Rejects?
Angelic Upstarts or Peter And The Test Tube Babies?
Guys, guys – these are some tough choices…!
As 99% of the equation is “when,” the answer is “both.”
In answer to the OP, Beatles since you ask, but if pushed I’d plump for The Byrds.
Just can’t decide between Gong and Funkadelic.
Both.
I think I said both and if I could add to them I may have put Arbouretum, Byrds, JJ Cale, Dylan,
Endless Boogie, Funkadelic, Gilberto Gil, Ben Harper, If, Bert Jansch, King Crimson, Love, Moody Blues, Bill Nelson, Roy Orbison, Tom Petty, Pretty Things (don`t like nobody begining with Q so I`m having 2 `Ps`, Chris Robinson, Shack, Trees, John Trudell, (U same as U), Velve….nah they`re shite), Vanilla Fudge, Scott Walker (up to the mid-`70`s), XTC, Neil Young, Warren Zevon.
I only really like two albums from the 60s: The Velvet Underground & Nico and David Bowie/Space Oddity. I didn’t actually hear them until sometime in the 80s, but I can see them now as the chronological beginnings of an arty, fey, maverick thread that has been constant in my musical tastes throughout my adult life.
A variation of Stones or Beatles question: Sinatra or Bennett? For me, the latter.
Tony Bennett? The Bronx funeral warbler? No offence, but are you out of your fucking mind???
Lennie Bennet. Host of ITV’s Punchlines and, less asidiously, Lucky Ladders. (And Black Celebration’s “4th favourite comedian”.)
Who da feck’s Tony?
@gary – How the HELL did you know that?
bricameron told me in a private
massagemessage.Terrifyingly, Lennie’s second mention on the blog in a week.
Fairport or Steeleye?
Cholera or dysentery?
Disappointment Choir or Colin Harper
The problem with Fairport/Steeleye is which version(s) of either.
Folk or rock? I know! Let’s combine the worst bits of both! 😉
McCarthy or Bogshed?
Mahavishnu or Sham 69?
Crikey, that’s a real judgement of Solomon situation…*
(* No, it’s not.)
Dumpy’s Rusty Nuts or Woody Woodmansey’s U-Boat?
…or Petesy Burns’ ARSE (see ‘Old Punks’ thread)?
… or Jenny Haan’s LION
Manhattan Transfer or Liquid Gold?
Simon Cowell or a dog turd?
Jeff Beck or Lionel Blair?
I’d say Jeff Beck, because he’s wearing a divine purple ball gown on his latest Hollywood Bowl album cover.
Punky Meadows is more fluid, though.
Yes, but could he pull off Peter Gunn in less than 2 minutes?
Ólafur Arnalds or Jóhann Jóhannsson
Miles or Trane?
Mr B put my Miles t-shirt in the tumble drier, and compensated by buying me a Coltrane one to replace it. Which goes to show you can’t have both.
Emmylou Harris or Keith Harris?
Mink De Ville or Orville?
Tony Bennett or Lennie Bennett
Gordon Bennett!
St Etienne, ou Étienne Daho?
Un chien ou @andielou?
Nirvana or Nirvana?
ELP or ELP?
Mick Jones, Mick Jones or Mick Jones?
Billy Bremner or Billy Bremner?
Allan Clarke or Allan Clarke?
Steve Gadd or Steve Gadd
Bruford or White?
Yes or No?
Chicken or fish?
Neither Fish Nor Flesh.
Terence or Sananda?
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda
Sananda you’re a Womble!
You big twit 😂
Somewhere in a parallel universe Terence Trent D’arby is having a little chuckle.
Going by the interview in the new issue of Classic Pop, the name has changed but the personality remains intact.
That’s good to hear. He seemed so normal in those early interviews he gave 30 years ago.
Oh no, wait. That was Glenn Medeiros!
Fleshtones or Bluetones?
Blacklights or fleshlights?
Fleshlight or honeydew?
Honeydew or raw liver?
Hannibal Sniff – Sniff GIF from Silenceofthelambs GIFs
Raw liver or oven-ready chicken?
Oven-ready chicken.
“Well, sage and onion is more traditional…”
Larks or ptarmigans?
Fried or poached?
Rod, pole or perch?
“Fried or fried?”
“FIRED!”
Would that it were that easy…
https://youtu.be/IowzJ86tKK8
Hedgehog or cathedral?
Bull or The James Last Orchestra?
J-La every time.
Daddy or chips?
Arsenal or Tottenham?
Arse Ham for me, and frankly for them, every time.
! or ?
Ꙭ or �
David or Richard?
The Rutles. The band the Stones couldn’t have been.
Yamaha RD400 or 350LC ?