Non Beatles fans look away now…
Nicked from a Beatles Facebook page.
Apple Corps and Capitol/Universal are planning a 6-disc “Let It Be” 50th anniversary box set, as rumored.
Two sources familiar with the plans say the set includes a new Giles Martin remix of the “Let It Be” album; a couple of discs of rehearsals and jams from the January, 1969, Apple Studios sessions; the first Glyn Johns mix of the album from 1969; Johns’ 1970 mixes of “Across the Universe” and “I Me Mine” and new 2021 mixes of the original B-side version of “Don’t Let Me Down” and the 1970 single version of “Let It Be”; and a disc featuring Dolby Atmos/ 5.1 DTS/Hi-Res Stereo mixes.
The complete rooftop concert, which is featured in Peter Jackson’s upcoming Disney+ docuseries, is not included in the box set, which has only one live rooftop track. That may have been a result of restrictions imposed by Disney. Release is expected to be in mid-October.
The experiment to see how many times the same people can be persuaded to buy something they already own continues. It’s a Commie plot Harry.
So there’ll be the one disc version: Giles Martin Remix.
Two disc: Giles Martin. Glyn Johns + extras
Six disc: everything.
First prize: one disc
Second prize: two discs
etc
I’m not quite sure how this adds up to 6 discs, but I think we will know more next week. Not a Commie plot @Twang , more of a Capitalist one..?
I suspect. I can’t talk, I’m going guitar shopping tomorrow with intent to buy and I have 24 of the buggers already.
https://www.coda-music.com/acoustic-guitars/farida-m-26vsb.html
Are you going to buy a Martin…?
If I was a Beatles fan I might as I already have 3. Plus a sort of Martin side project.
I love Let it Be but i really don’t need to hear demos, jams etc. I am sure the completists will be excited about it – give me the same for Costello or Lucinda Williams and I would be ecstatic so its not the format it’s the artist and there are maybe only a handful where I need to hear the rough workings before the finished product.
Think I’m out if this is true. If original movie included on the Blu-ray then I might be more excited. Can’t imagine a 5.1 mix of what was originally intended to be a live-ish “bare bones” release will be that compelling.
But maybe if there is a nice book ….
Fucks given = 0
I’m so, so tired of trying to make The Beatles* news when all the news you need is still in the original albums.
* See also any other act who didn’t leave much worth hearing on the cutting room floor, but especially The Beatles.
I’m looking forward to the film and the inevitable Friday morning brain-dump from Tigger. Cannot get excited about the album(s).
I can already hear his set-up introduction in my head 😉
“January 1969 found The Beatles in a unique position, just 2 months after the release of The White Album they reconvened …”
😱
I’m beatled out.
Mind you, a 5.1 mix might be good. Make you feel as if you are in the same room.
I’m less excited about this than I expected to be, if that makes sense. I have a lot of the LIB/GB sessions on bootlegs and they certainly don’t get much of an outing as they are mostly rubbish. A good friend curated 6 discs of the sessions and did a great job of culling the worst and making it reasonably listenable, but listening to my favourite group faffing around and being a bit crap is depressing. Yeah, you can argue it’s ‘interesting’, but I’d rather listen to the great stuff. I actually like LIB as an album – let’s face it, anything with Let It Be, Get Back, Across The Universe, Two of Us, The Long and Winding Road can’t be bad – but I’m not sure what Giles can do with it. 6 discs will be well north of £100, and leaving out the the rooftop tracks seems odd if true, so I will have to think long and hard….and then buy it I suspect!
I’m sure the films will be good though.
This.
About time somebody said “mostly rubbish”. I’ve always found this material quite draining.
I’ll include Across The Universe in that category. Draining or rubbish I will leave up to you.
Don’t go nicking George’s biscuits, whatever you do!
I’ll eat your biscuits or my biscuits or no biscuits at all, whatever biscuit arrangements that will please you, I’ll do it.
If it’s on at the cinema I’ll go. Almost certainly more than once.
If the 2-cd version finds it’s way to a local shop (ideally under £20) I might bite.
Wouldn’t put money on either me biting or it being in a shop. The last one wasn’t.
Their back catalogue is now more top heavy than Rachel Welch, which makes me want to focus on “I’ll Get You,” “Ask Me Why” and “Yes It Is” even more. Hepworth’s right – it’s Beatlemania that is the truly outstanding factor.
Won’t be on at the cinema unless you organise a special screening, 6 hrs long – Disney Plus
Deramdaze doesn’t do digital.
He likes CDs which are digital.
True, but only ones remastered from analog tape.
dai 0 – dave 01
Won’t be going to see it then.
What’s wrong with the guy making it, can’t he edit?
On a website that has recently informed me that worldwide sales of All Things Must Pass was 28,000 – a Norwich City attendance – and that was the biggest seller!!! (the group who sold 2,000,000 copies of Can’t Buy Me Love in the UK alone), yet another example of the pool of people reached getting smaller and smaller.
Apple no doubt makes millions, but the amount of times my money remains in my pocket suggests to me they could have made many more millions.
All this stuff should have been out at least ten, actually twenty, years ago. They’ve simply left it too late.
No offence to the Beatles, but Summer of Soul will piss all over it… and I am paying to see that on a regular basis… mainly because it is there… a logic completely lost on the industry.
How many people who bought Can’t Buy Me Love in 64 are going to fanny around with yet another TV subscription?
Answer? It’s not far off the same number of shiny silver things in the trophy cabinet at White Hart Lane.
In answer to your first question, no: see the Hobbit films. Yes, films plural.
Isn’t Summer Of Soul on Disney + ?
I think it might be… its run at our local cinema is ending soon after being on about five times a week since early July.
“the pool of people reached getting smaller and smaller”
I’d a thought there’s a more obvious Reaper-shaped reason for that than poor editing or marketing strategies…
I thought DD might have been talking about the original LIB film. Not been shown for something like 40 years – presumably because of all the onscreen squabbling between the four once-adorable mop tops
Has only been on British TV once, as part of the BBC2 season of Beatles films, Christmas 1979.
Most copies derive from this broadcast. Begging the question, who the bloody hell had a video recorder in 1979? You deserve to be made miserable by watching the Beatles split up, you overprivileged wazzocks.
If they ever do reshow it, perhaps they should should rename it “Leave it aht!”
We had a huge Philips VCR recorder in our house in 1979. We had off-air recordings from Irish tv of the Pope’s September 1979 visit which hung around the house for years before they got thrown out. Then someone put a call out online to see if anyone had any off-air recordings a few years back. Oh well.
No one’s infallible…
That would be an ecumenical matter.
Not true. I saw it on BBC in 1976 when the 4 main movies were broadcast in consecutive weeks during the summer holidays. Was also shown 81 or 82 as well after 79 which would be the last time.
Still remember the date – Saturday, 27th November 1982 at about 3 p.m.
Fantastic… 3 p.m. on a Saturday, so I didn’t see it.
Well well. Two Beatles film seasons, three years apart? Flaming heck.
I must be mixing it up with Catch Us If You Can.
Not so long ago LIB the movie was on youtube before being taken down by The Beatle control machine. It really wasn’t so gloomy. The rooftop concert section was clearly joyous and other parts are just them getting on with business. I think now we are used to warts and all fly on the wall rockumentaries and this seems quite tame in that context. At the time though I suppose it may have seemed more raw and bleak. It’s fine actually.
Think the problem is it is poorly made or edited. Probably the cinema verite style of the time, but a much better movie could have probably been made, and no doubt has been.
Yes, I saw it on You Tube about two years ago and posted on here on how joyous (I think I used that exact word too) I thought it was.
It was also taut and had a momentum to it.
I have a bootleg DVD copy which is actually pretty good quality – certainly perfectly watchable. I watched it a year or two ago with a friend who is also a fellow Beatles fan, and we agreed it was actually really enjoyable – maybe because our expectation was that it would be a depressing watch, given the received wisdom is that it shows the band arguing and breaking up. I think a lot of that comes from the fact it was released in 1970 when the break up actually happened, so we retrofit that knowledge onto the film. It isn’t the greatest watch in terms of graininess, the verite style and cut can be a bit annoying, and it is only 80 mins, which does leave you wanting more, but it is far better than its reputation.
I originally saw it at the cinema in a double a bill with Yellow Submarine – now there’s a contrast for you!
“Biscuits? Is that a matter you’d like to take up?”
The box set de luxe edition comes with a replica set of chrome plated rich tea biscuits apparently.
…life size models of Charles Hawtrey , Doris and Sweet Loretta Fart.
Yoko has created a special “Biscuit Piece” performance to mark the release
Broken biscuits?
Very sixties.
@slotbadger
Nice…
Says here (the Daily Beatle) LIB was last broadcast on UK TV in 1982
http://webgrafikk.com/blog/uncategorized/let-it-be-from-bbc/
Even longer article about LIBfrom the same site
http://webgrafikk.com/blog/documentary/the-rise-and-fall-and-rise-of-the-let-it-be-film/
Apparently it looked quite lifelike.
That date’s wrong… it was on the same afternoon QPR beat Carlisle United 1-0… and that was Saturday, 27th November 1982!!!
About 10 years ago I purchased a DVD copy of Let it Be in Thailand.
I have never watched it.
You can probably buy a DVD of the birth of Jesus Christ in Thailand.
It was released on Laserdisc at some point, most of the versions floating around, are from that source. And yes I have one.
Every time I have watched it the Police Officers at the rooftop concert look younger!
I like the people in the street below. It’s 1969 but these people look like they’re from the 50s. The Beatles really are from another planet in comparison. Espec
Especially Ringo in “that” coat.
(Sorry)
That was Maureen’s coat.
I didn’t know that.
Should we have had a “spoiler alert”?
PS. Don’t tell me if they passed the audition.
Maureen must have been a big lass. Maybe, Ringo’s guns aren’t as impressive as I thought.
Ringo’s actually quite a little fella. Small man, big beats.
Ah yes! The rooftop concert. Legendary! Groundbreaking! Original!
Do we know which brand of biscuit split up the Fabs? My Emerick book is in storage. I’m restarting vinyl Sunday afternoons in the cafe from October and kicking off with Abbey Road.
McVitie’s Digestive? In 1969 it won’t have been a Hobnob.
Abbey Crunch seems appropriate. Too new I expect.
It was (one or more) digestive(s). Yoko may have been pregnant at the time (she miscarried), maybe she had a craving?
You win the prize*, Dai. Simply claim in person at the Courtyard Cafe, Cambridge on October 31st.
(*) a packet of biscuits, unless I get corporate sponsorship.
UK still won’t let people from Canada in without quarantine (US/EU fine), so I am afraid I won’t make it, unless that changes
@fentonsteve
Bourbono?
Garibaldi? “You say you want a revolutionary biscuit of Italy…”
There is nothing to fear but the wafers
Today’s second tea/keyboard moment.
For You Blue Riband
I definitely read or heard something about, when the HJH made some serious money, Lennon indulged his, previously, expensive penchant for Jaffa Cakes. So much so, that, in later years, he was heard to say, “Don’t talk to me about bloody Jaffa Cakes.”
More news from the Hoffman forum, just one track from rooftop “concert” and the 5th disc is allegedly 12 minutes long. Also maybe no book as there is a standalone “Get Back” book, and the box dimensions may be CD sized.
This is getting less and less enticing.
It’s hardly “beat the boots” time, is it? I think the eel markets will be as busy as ever.
Just one track from the rooftop? Oh that’s a bit rubbish. You’d think that all important rooftop gig would be the centrepiece of the set. But apparently it’s some sort of rights issue. Still we can have 200 takes of Maggie May
Seems this is all spiraling a bit out of control.
One of the justifications for it now being a series as opposed to a film (a cinema release… with extras on a dvd… i.e. what it should be) is that Anthology was a series.
Well, yes… but Anthology went from the year dot to the end… not January 69 into a bit of February 69!
One comment I saw suggested that the 0.00001% of the world’s population who want it on the dreaded vinlys have to be catered for and, because vinlys are such a niche product, there are not enough pressing facilities around.
Talk about the tail wagging the dog!
The whole thing sounds incredibly confused and if we’re struggling with it (I definitely am) the great unwashed are hardly going to tear themselves away from Radio 2 and/or UB40 to try to get a grip on the proceedings.
As it stands – I am sticking with my £2 CD, the two original 45s, the original LP and the Get Back book I got from a charriddee for £5… and all the rumours about it easily falling apart are true. I’ve got scaffolding around mine.
Avoid Radio 2 for the next day or two if you don’t like UB40, their sax man just died (cancer).
Probably more like 25-50% wanting vinyl, but you can make up figures to suit your prejudices.
I’m one of the 53.7% of Afterworders who would somewhat,
mildly or strongly dispute the veracity of statistics quoted
in this thread
The 12 minute CD is derived from a statement that said the disc “includes” Johns’ I Me Mine and Across The Universe plus the single Let It Be/Don’t Let Me Down. “Includes” does not mean “solely consists of”.
Weren’t some the actual Let It Be songs and Glynn Johns’ mix from the rooftop? We may not be getting the full forty minutes of rooftop but we are getting more than just one track.
Don’t think any tracks have been definitely listed, may be wrong though. Yes some of the original album, plus others on Anthology and LIB naked were from the roof. I think that many were hoping for the lot all together. Will be in the video doc though
The setlist for the rooftop is rather bizarre for a farewell gig: three lots of Get Back, two goes at Don’t Let Me Down, two I Got A Feeling, plus one One After 909 and Dig A Pony. I think people really want the between song interactions more than the performances of the songs themselves, not forgetting the arrival of Mr Plod.
I have a bootleg of the whole thing (as I’m sure other Beatle nuts here have too) and it isn’t the greatest listen, but that hasn’t stopped them releasing stuff in that category before – it just seems a bit strange as the whole thing is in the new film.
The film rights are apparently now owned by Disney, so the “Beatles” (Apple) have to ask permission from Disney to release their own music. Which Disney refuses of course – they have their own release schedule (= money grabbing plan) for their “own” music. There’ll most likely be an “Original Soundtrack” vinyl/CD set/Deluxe CD & LP set/Über Deluxe set/MiniDisc box set in 2022. Around Christmas. On Disney Records.
MiniDisc is, like, so 90s, old-timer. This new-fangled Compact Cassette is where it’s at now.
Nightmare vision of the future from 1970: Disney will own absolutely bloody everything.
On the plus side, at least it will get rid of beards.
The whole concert is in the film? What, including the repeat tracks? Surely not. That might test the patience of even the most ardent fan.
It’s not really a gig, more a rehearsal on a roof
More a recording session conducted outside. The original concept, of course, was to do an actual gig.
As a teenager, I once fronted a band at a sixth form gig, the warm up to a film showing, the film in question being Ben. There was an act between us and the film as well. We had three songs: Twist & Shout, Money and Leopard-Skin Pillbox Hat. It took ten minutes, what with the tuning up etc. We were a shambles. At the end, we were told the next act wasn’t turning up. We went back on and performed the three songs again. Then we had to fill more time, so, back to Leopard-Skin Pillbox Hat. As the song was ending, I started the lyric from the top, again, then again and again to create a fifteen minute song. We didn’t get much applause. Repeating songs does not go down well. I was able to thank Mandy but I did not dare ask if we’d passed the audition.
Dylan would never play LSPBH twice.
And if he did you wouldn’t notice.
He wouldn’t think twice about it
More a make a movie/TV show with multiple cameras thing on the roof while going through songs they were still learning how to play properly
And disc 5 is an “EP” it seems
Disc One – New Mix of the original album:
1. Two Of Us
2. Dig A Pony
3. Across The Universe
4. I Me Mine
5. Dig It
6. Let It Be
7. Maggie Mae
8. I’ve Got A Feeing
9. One After 909
10. The Long And Winding Road
11. For You Blue
12. Get Back
Disc Two – Get Back – Apple sessions
1. Morning Camera (Speech) / Two Of Us (Take 4)
2. Maggie Mae / Fancy My Chances With You *
3. Can You Dig It?
4. I Don’t Know Why I’m Moaning (Speech)*
5. For You Blue (Take 4)
6. Let It Be / Please Please Me / Let It Be (Take 10)
7. I’ve Got A Feeling (Take 10)
8. Dig A Pony (Take 14)
9. Get Back (Take 19)
10. Like Making An Album? (Speech)
11. One After 909 (Take 3)
12. Don’t Let Me Down (First Rooftop Performance)
13. The Long And Winding Road (Take 19)
14. Wake Up Little Susie / I Me Mine (Take 11)
Disc Three – Get Back – rehearsals and Apple jams
1. On The Day Shift Now (Speech)*/All Things Must Pass (Rehearsals)
2. Concentrate On The Sound *
3. Gimme Some Truth (Rehearsal) *
4. I Me Mine (Rehearsal) *
5. She Came In Through The Bathroom Window (Rehearsal) *
6. Polythene Pam (Rehearsal) *
7. Octopus’s Garden (Rehearsal) *
8. Oh! Darling (Jam)
9. Get Back (Take 8)
10. The Walk (Jam)
11. Without A Song (Jam – Billy Preston With John And Ringo)
12. Something (Rehearsal) *
13. Let It Be (Take 28)
Disc Four – Get Back LP – 1969 Glyn Johns mix
1. One After 909
2. Medley: I’m Ready (Aka Rocker) / Save The Last Dance For Me / Don’t Let Me Down
3. Don’t Let Me Down
4. Dig A Pony
5. I’ve Got A Feeling
6. Get Back
7. For You Blue
8. Teddy Boy
9. Two Of Us
10. Maggie Mae
11. Dig It
12. Let It Be
13. The Long And Winding Road
14. Get Back (Reprise)
Disc Five – Let It Be EP
1. Across The Universe (Unreleased Glyn Johns1970 Mix)
2. I Me Mine (Unreleased Glyn Johns1970 Mix)
3. Don’t Let Me Down (New Mix Of Original Single Version)
4. Let It Be (New Mix Of Original Single Version)
Disc Six – Blu-ray (Several formats of the same songs, including Dolby Atmos 48 kHz/24 bit – DTS HD Master Audio 5.1 and PCM)
1. Two Of Us
2. Dig A Pony
3. Across The Universe
4. I Me Mine
5. Dig It
6. Let It Be
7. Maggie Mae
8. I’ve Got A Feeing
9. One After 909
10. The Long And Winding Road
11. For You Blue
12. Get Back
* = Mono
2 disc version has same disc 1 and then a mixture of discs 3, 4 and 5
VInyl has same first 4 discs I believe, maybe a 7 inch for disc 5 not sure
Shame they aren’t doing a standalone vinyl Get Back. I’d be up for that.
Me too. Maybe RSD at some point?
Ebay more like – as it’s part of the vinyl box anyway sellers might break it up.
Have to say the “EP” is a totally ludicrous thing, especially as there is 45 minutes spare on a CD that contains the original album (35.10 duration). I expect discs 2, 3 and 4 to also have lots of space.
And they didn’t even include the “outtakes & studio banter” CD that came with “Let It Be Naked”.
Looks like Apple (again) compiled the track listing for the LP version and then transferred two LP sides each to a CD, resulting in discs with 35 – 45 minutes each. Did no-one think of phoning Robert Fripp or Ian Anderson for advice?
My thoughts exactly….suddenly vinyl rules! It has clearly dictated the content. There is a theory that there may be a soundtrack album to the film as well, but I can’t see that somehow.
Me neither
October 15th, it seems.
National Album Day on the 16th must be kicking themselves.
I’m waiting for this.
Know that things must be very tight for Paul, Ringo, Yoko and Olivia/Dani right now, but I’m afraid I won’t be easing their financial pain by forking out for any of these sets.
You monster! Think of the chilllldren! They might have to go to state school!
Macca’s kids went to state schools, which probably means the grandchildren don’t
These mixes shouldn’t frighten the horses too much.
There was noticeable differences/betterment with the 2009 remasters. Not sure there’s been much of a leap since – maybe a little cleaning and polishing
It’ll be louder and shinier. That’s normally the way it goes.
Let it be over with.
Let It Be, All Things Must Pass.. it’s a wonder Ringo didn’t do an album called Ah Fuck This.
He obviously forgot what he was doing at that time because his 6th solo album released much later was entitled “Ringo the 4th”
My love of The Beatles will never, could not, ever diminish. They were my initiation, but I am Sir Frankly tired of all the regurgitating commercial bullshit. It’s cynical and greedy. The body of work stands as it is, so fucking Let It Be. How many times can you repaint a transcendent ceiling or re-fashion beauty?
Yep, totally right, but the people geared towards this stuff (an ever-decreasing number, already small, with new each reissue) will still be in the market for it.
1. Best bet for an ankle-botherer? Get versions (CDs) of the original albums from the local record shop/chazzer for £1-£3. In London, I reckon you do the whole lot for £30 max. in the specialist shops… and DO NOT, even in humour, go towards the vinly option… Abbey Road is currently on vinly at Amazon for £22.
2. Those who already have them? It’s a poker-job, “stick.”
3. Also, don’t forget the Anthology series. From memory, there is about 30 minutes’ worth of Let It Be material on Anthology 3. I don’t need too much more than that.
I’ve stated this before, but unlike, say, Dylan, Springsteen or The Stones I find the Beatles outtakes pretty underwhelming. The completed, originally released stuff is magical, but work in progress, studio jams, live stuff is nowhere near the same level (with the odd exception)
I love hearing the banter, though.
Is there anything except apparently Carnival of Light left in the vaults that’s worth getting “hung about”?
The fairly recent Delia Derbyshire doc. reminded me that the only public performance of Carnival of Light occurred at the Million Volt Light and Sound Rave at the Roundhouse in early 1967. I assume there must have been some reviews of the event at the time, but I don’t recall anyone ever saying anything noteworthy about it.
Non-classical music events didn’t get reviews in those days as we understand them, except for the usual “this toe-tapper is sure to get in the hit parade”.
Well there’s the final full rooftop “concert” that will come out on a Let it Be box set. Oh hang on…
Carnival will be a disappointment according to Lewisohn.
I can see a live box set coming out, maybe with video too, Shea, Beatles for Shell, Washington etc. There will no doubt be box sets for the early albums too at some point
It’s unbelievable that Carnival of Light has still never appeared. You’d think someone, somewhere would have leaked it. The more time goes on, the more it’s legendary status grows in probable inverse proportion to its actual merit.
It could be stupendous, I can’t be sure. But I’d be willing to bet my life on it being gubbins.
It might not actually exist. A long con invented by all involved.
Yeah, Carnival of Shite more like!
I actively want it to come out and be absolute inexcusable shite. It’s my only Beatles opinion. I just think it’d be really funny to watch the Fabdolators vacillate between coping with its terribleness and pretending it’s good.
I’m shopping you to the Beataliban. Good luck, infidel.
This is essentially the plot of Nick Hornby’s Juliet, Naked. A reclusive singer suddenly puts out the acoustic demos of his masterpiece album from 20 years earlier, and the fan forums go ballistic for it. Then after a bit they realise that, no, the properly-recorded full-band version with the months of work behind it is actually better than the tossed-off demos, which are a bit shit, actually. But now they can never un-hear it; Pandora’s box is open, Shrodinger’s cat is dead, and they’ll never again have the thrill of not knowing.
I believe the 4-track “multitracks” for the early albums don’t really exist (they were bounced down when overdubbing) but there’s now “demix” technology at Abbey Road.
I have the recent demixed Cat Stevens albums and very good they are, too. Even if, 20-odd years later, he told me to eff off. Not that I bear a grudge from 30-odd years ago…
I can see them appearing in 4/5 disc versions:
1. Stereo remaster
2. Mono remaster
3. Concurrent singles/B sides and demos
4. Live stuff/TV appearances
5. Video content and hi-res (Blu-ray)
I have the fan remixes of the 1963 recordings and they sound terrific – if someone in their shed can do it then I’m sure Abbey Road techies can manage something in a couple of years time.
The logical conclusion of all this will be a six-part doco in which Peter Jackson forensically examines the blink-and-you’ll-miss-it footage of the Quarrymen pixel by pixel
Wow, a John Harris piece I actually got more than half-way through….
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2021/sep/26/beatles-final-days-get-back-let-it-be-john-harris-peter-jackson