Spandau Ballet
Bay City Rollers
Billy Bragg
Oasis
Eurythmics
American mock punk
Sam Smith
Take That
Kiss
Grateful Dead
Drilling and vomitting versions of heavy metal
Shrieking rawk singers
I can add, just off the cuff, Anne Lennox, Runrig, Bob Dylan, Ron Wood/Rolling Stones, Steely Dan, probably lots more…
Mind you, sometimes the dislike isn’t entirely irrational: I can make cases for the appalling overratedness, smugness and vacuity of a lot of these people. But it’s time I wouldn’t get back.
Plenty for whom I have a wholly rational dislike, but if you are asking about those which set the teeth on edge for no discernible reason, the following leap to mind.
Led Zeppelin
The Housemartins / The Beautiful South
Joy Division / New Order
Fairport Convention
Loads, and all irrational – no logical reason other than prejudice.
A selection:
– Spandau Ballet – too “nice”, too clean, and Tony Hadley comes across as a prize prat
(although I’m latterly warming to Gary Kamp, and believe John Keeble is a great drummer)
– Wham – girls band!
– Nirvana – make a fine noise, but not convinced they have a position in the pantheon of greats
– Stock, Aitken & Waterman stuff
(The story of how the producers came together, worked stuff up, and plotted supremacy is an interesting tal. Hut what came out of the studio is far from interesting)
– Any of the glut of 21st Century solo singers who try and fit 27 notes into a three word chorus
U2 — Bono. Need I say more?
Duran Duran — All the girls at school fancied them and not me. (Of course, in retrospect I do realise that sitting on my own in a smoke-filled sixth form common room listening to the skronkier King Crimson albums was unlikely to have them swooning over me.)
The Strokes — WTF was all that about? I’ve never heard such derivative, workmanlike and tuneless dirges before in my life.
Oasis — See above, but with the acknowledgment there were tunes. Somebody else’s tunes, but hey, still an improvement.
I have a bad case of flu and it’s making me grumpy. I’ll stop there.
I can only think of a few, but for some reason they really irritate.
Queen
They bring out my inner music snob. When people tell me they like Queen, my head responds with ‘so you don’t like music then?’ (as I said – music snobbery of the highest order & shows I am a tool!)
The Kooks
I am fully justified in this one. I will listen to most things, but not this – i have to leave a shop if they are playing! Totally irrationa I hear you say,l but they bring out a level of distaste i have only ever felt for politicians
Van Morrison
It is mainly Brown Eyed Girl i dislike, but I really really can’t abide it
An apprentice at work took great pleasure in sharing their Spotify wrapped.
Most listened to band – Queen (by quite a long way over anything else)
Most listened to song – Bohemain Rhapsody (beating number 2 by about 3:1)
I suggested they listen to the first two albums – they came back saying “it was OK, didn’t really like it though. Only Seven Seas Of Rhye”
I too share your dislike of Queen and also am quick to judge anyone who professes a fondness for them. It’s that smarmy, self-conscious “look at us” theatricality of their music that I find so irritating. These days, this view has got me accused of homophobia more than once. I conceded Freddie Mercury was a very fine front man, but, dear god, the music the whole band produced is unforgivable.
That, and the fact that Boh Rhap was number one for what seemed like a entire decade when I were a lad and you couldn’t bloody avoid it on’t wireless, ever.
I don’t mind anyone thinking I have bad musical taste because I like Queen. This is largely because I know that I don’t have great musical taste (I have far too many KISS CDs for me to argue otherwise). I’m perfectly fine with this state of affairs.
I can also understand why people don’t like Queen: their music is overproduced, camp, theatrical etc. And even I don’t really like the stuff they did after The Works. But again, to build on the point I made below, it’s the things that you folks don’t like about them that I like. I like the theatricality and the pomposity and the camp. They were never boring. The older I get the more I want pop music to entertain me. And that’s what Queen wanted to do more than anything else. This is band who wrote a song called “Let Me Entertain You” after all.
I can see that they are very good musicians (whoever the mandolin player was especially) but they just grate. Martin Carthy I also really like. I think the band is possessed by an evil spirit that consumes all who play with it.
Had Cliff just paused after releasing Move It, and then met a tragic end (perhaps in a car accident on a wet B road en route to his next gig in Horsham or somewhere) he would still be regarded -genuinely- as Britain’s answer to Elvis.
Only one for me: Ed Sheeran. I’ve had an entirely irrational dislike of him since he first appeared.
True, his music and songs do nothing for me, but then so do lots of other artists’. By all accounts he’s a nice guy and great to work with, he clearly knows his way around a pop song, and he helps good causes. Regardless of all this, he leaves me completely cold.
He didn’t help himself with his turn in Game of Thrones and his silly comments about Do They Know It’s Christmas, but on the other hand he’s worth a gazillion pounds and has a crazy amount of awards and fans, so I suppose he can rise above my criticism.
I can see the Deacon Blue thing. They had a cringe factor with songs like Dignity and Fergus Sings the Blues but crossed the line for me with “do what I should have did”. He was an ex teacher FFS.
Scotland, unfortunately, had a real problem in the 80s with dour, self-righteous, clenched-buttock singers in floppy haircuts doing angular moves in bomber jackets rolled up to the elbows with deeply, deeply unappealing songs that: (a) seemed to appeal to Scots of their era as if they were national anthems for the second coming; (b) sounded like a load of po-faced kak to the rest of us. Chief among these were R**rig and D**con Bl**. Ghastly.
I’ll say. I was in Scotland 1984 to 1993. A bit too much up itself, wanting to be like the worst of England at the time, but not willing to accept the horrid equivalence.
I’m not sure that’s true
In the case of Deacon Blue.
They didn’t want to be like “the worst of England at the time”:
they actually thought they were Glasgow’s answer to Steely Dan…
There were lots of them to choose from. I mentioned a while back that around the time Q did a “Ten Earnest Scottish bands in Vests” feature. Deacon Blue, R**r*ig, Goodbye Mr Mackenzie, Hue & Cry, the Big Dish, The Silencers, etc.
Yes, the guy from Hue & Cry was totally up himself. A joyless entity determined to spread his contempt as far possible (while looking for poor old Linda who was probably trying to get as far away from him as possible).
Irrational..? I think there is usually some underlying reason, but here goes…
The Proclaimers – I want to listen in stereo, not watch
Judas Priest – stupid name
AC/DC – terrible vocals
Status Quo – just because. Pictures of Matchstick Men is ok though.
Now hang on, surely no-one can irrationally dislike Status Quo. OK, everything since the 90s has been a bit sh*t, but it’s Quo … oh, Rockin All Over The World is the wrong side of tedious. As you were.
The stuff that AC/DC did with the guy before the guy with terrible vocals came along is much better than the stuff they’ve done with the guy with terrible vocals.
He played Sean Hughes’s mother in the final episode of Sean’s Show on Channel 4. That was back in the 90s so he might accept that he now looks like Sean’s granny.
I find this a difficult question because if I don’t actively take an interest in a particular band/musician/singer my reaction is indifference rather than harbouring an active dislike. I find that to be true about myself about everything. Hating things takes energy and I have better uses for that like washing the dishes. However there is one name that will invariably cause me to lower my brows and curl my lip that name being Andrew Lloyd Webber. I’m not sure if this is irrational though or more just an understandable reaction akin to the way one automatically recoils after inadvertently treading in dog crap.
I think these kind of threads are fun but for the reason I gave above I can’t summon up the requisite ire. I just ignore art and people I dislike. It and they are not worth the effort.
We cower in our shelters with our hands over our ears
Lloyd-Webber’s awful stuff runs for years and years and years
An earthquake hits the theatre, but the operetta lingers
Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers
It’s a miracle
Bob Dylan apart from Subterranean Homesick Blues and Must Be Santa which is great
Tina Turner
Annie Lennox – strangely only the solo stuff, quite like Eurythmics
I think irrational is the right word when it’s an act you know is objectively good but it just doesn’t appeal. On Steven Wilson’s Album Years they were both rather unmoved by Springsteen but they knew the records were clearly good. I’m with them on Bruce. First time I tried was Darkness OTEOT because it was the NME writers’ album of the year but it never really grabbed me. I have a few albums but I never want to put one on. I find him a rather dull individual overall.
Also Joni, a great artist but I’m not going to play anything.
Elvis Costello. It’s often a voice thing with those I dislike but also this worthy approach. Acts that Hepworth likes best tend to be the ones. Although he’s said he likes to play the trilogy of Grace Jones albums and Joy Division’s Closer and I’m with him there.
I would be very surprised if you (or, indeed, anyone else on the planet, outside of their immediate family) would recognise a Jedward song if it came on the radio.
Red Hot Chilli Peppers – I think it was Mike Scott who said something along the lines of… How come wherever I am in the world, whenever I ask what’s that shite on the radio? the answer is always the Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
Maroon 5
Black Eyed Peas
Mumford and Sons
I’d better step away from this thread or I’ll be here all day.
There was a brief moment in early 2000s where Red Hot Chilli Peppers were one of the biggest bands on the planet. How?
Corporate muscle? lack of alternative? nice enough noise but “biggest band ever”, nah
John Darko the audio reviewer refers to any device that has a button that immediately clicks past any disliked music as a “Red Hot Chilli Peppers Button” such is his dislike of them.
The first time I saw Mumford and Sons, or even heard of them, was TV spot of them walking along a country lane wearing tweed caps and playing acoustic instruments. I honestly couldn’t tell where they were a genuine band or a comedy act’s piss take. Mind you, I have the same reaction to Lankum, even though I know they are as serious a they so earnestly wish to appear.
Björk
Queen
Anyone performing a song by Stephen Bloody Sondheim. Grrrrrr….
Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Johnny Mathis, Perry Como, Dean Martin, Jack Jones (not the trade union leader), Andy Williams, Sammy Davis Jr – that entire genre of singers, really.
Rush. I dunno, it’s… everything about them. Pretentious lyrics. Double neck guitars. Screechy vocals. Drum solos. Goblins. Capes, probably. Mostly though it’s the triumph of virtuosity over feel. Just because you can play like that doesn’t mean you should.
Oh, and Springsteen. Basically Meatloaf but without the sense of humour.
Okay, I’ll give you that one – one song fifty years ago.
I only latched onto goblins and capes ‘cos it was lazy…some of the other stuff was valid critique, sometimes even for people who like ‘em!
I tend to agree with David Hepworth’s observation that the thing that most annoys non-fans about bands is also precisely the thing that fans of the bands treasure.
I’m a Rush fan and my favourite song of theirs is probably La Villa Strangiato, which is just them showing off their musicianship for 8 minutes. To be fair, Rush are in on the joke and don’t take themselves too seriously.
I also like Queen. I recall on a Word Podcast that Stuart Maconie described them scathingly as a “pantomime Led Zeppelin”. Perfectly good description of their first 5 albums or so and precisely why I like them.
I’m thinking there’s too many bands/artists on here that you are listing because you actually don’t like them.
The OP was after those who you grudgingly admit are, in fact, ok but for whatever reason you hate.
I hate The Cure because of that knobhead’s hair. I rest my case.
I’ve always liked the Cure’s music, but would love to say to Robert Smith (and Simon Gallop, the bass player) for goodness sake, please get your hair cut. Practically any other style would look better and more importantly, make me like them even more.
The sainted Kate Bush
Steely Dan no mirth no worth
Paul Weller too worthy
Pet Shop Boys too wordy no tuney
All pale, pasty mid 80s nice hair, nice suits, nice knitwear – Prefab Sprout , Paddy Outoftoon, Blow Monkeys, Orange Juice, Waterboys, Lloyd Cole you get the picture
Dexys in all its pretentious incarnations
Hair (gel) metal and fiddly widdly guitars
Post 1970 Eric Clapton
Pre 2026 Van Morrison
Kate Bush
Again, you don’t like them cos you don’t like them.
I really, really dislike Kate Bush but that’s because she makes arty, pretentious music for people with no musical taste whatsoever but who once got an O- level in English Literature not because her shrilling, silly voice really, really irritates me.
But despite never hearing a note by Scouting for Girls I can have an irrational dislike of them because I dislike their name, but then of course I’m rationalising why I dislike them.
I recall Twisted Sister on the Tube and the ‘singer’ wiping his make up off saying people didn’t like their music because he was wearing make up (some such bollocks anyway). Again my dislike wasn’t irrational because I thought at the time they weren’t liked because they were shit.
Irrational surely is looking at a photograph of a band and disliking their look without hearing them.
Pencil is right I reserve a healthy dose of indifference to a lot of the bands listed above as I’ve never heard a note of lots of them.
I THINK part of my irrational dislike of the Thompson Twins was how Alannah Currie looked. I have a similar dislike of Andie McDowell. I know it’s not right.
Fairground Attraction for me. Maybe it is because the first time i heard perfect coincided with me being laid low with a bad bout of flu but the very sound of Edie Readers voice brings me out in a cold sweat. Is this irrational? I am not sure but it is very real to me.
Yes, indifferent to a lot of bands is possibly the best way to describe things.
That and irritation. Some bands irritate. In particular The Flaming Lips, and even more in particular their leader Wayne Coyne. Their music doesn’t interest me and his attitude of forced eccentricity and performance art grate on my tits no end.
I attach a clip below of the estimable Beck singing his excellent long droning ballad ‘Round The Bend’. Coyne is on stage with him for some reason and decides to stand behind him whirling a light bulb round his head for the duration, distracting everyone. If I’d been singing, I’d have sang it twice through until the show off bastard’s arm fell off.
I their strong defence, I saw them in Hull in our City of Culture year, and it was one of the best live concert experiences I’ve ever had. My friend, who’s seen untold numbers of gigs in town, rates it as the absolute best she’s ever witnessed.
As above, I don’t think my dislike of any musical act is “irrational”, being based always on solid foundations.*
Football teams, on the other hand..
(*It’s notable how many artists whose music you have no time for turn out to be alright geezers and lasses. Someone mentioned Gary Kemp way up there and watching the recent Live Aid documentary I found myself thinking “I could go for a pint with that guy”)
Yes, he seems like a really decent sort, always enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the interviewee’s career (just like Guy).
He often pops up in 1980s/Blitz Club documentaries and articles and treats his and Spandau’s part in that era with a rather charming mixture of pride and “What *were* we like, eh?”
I wasn’t a big fan of ver Ballet back in the day (Duran Duran all the way for me in that particular argument), but I picked up a 3CD compilation after GK won me over with the Rockonteurs. It showed that he can really write a tune. I’ll Fly For You might not be as well known as the classics Gold (Gold!) or True, but for me it’s a terrific piece of work. Long may his kilt-and-puffy-shirt-type-combo fly.
I like GK a lot. I bought his last solo album which is good if a bit serious but it was a lockdown album I think. His one recorded in Ireland is a complete surprise after ver Ballet (whose greatest hits is a great album).
This is probably based on whether I liked them in interviews etc – some of their music might be astonishing for all I know but I’m not going to go further into any back catalogues any time soon for :
Kanye or Wheezy or whatever he is known as now.
Sam Smith
Lenny Kravitz
I think it’s because they try too hard to appear extraordinary but my sense is they are not and have been very very lucky, particularly if a good song has come their way.
I used to actively dislike Dire Straits but my heart’s not in it any more – life’s too short. I have accepted that Money for Nothing wasn’t Mark speaking his truth, as I had thought at the time. I think he now says it was from an overheard conversation at a truck stop.
In a department store in Manhattan. He was buying white goods one afternoon with his then wife. It’s reported speech from overhearing some of the delivery guys cracking wise at what was showing on MTV on the display tv’s.
Wot, no Radiohead? They are objectively a very talented band, but ‘Thom’ is my absolutely irrational hate…his ‘voice’, his demeanour, his eminently punchable face…and that fucking ‘h’. Bastard.
Well, fanatic Corbynite and devoutly pro Palestinian polemicist Owen “OJ” Jones and grumpy dreich-rock peddler Thom Yorke would have a point of conflict to overcome first.
Any hatred of various musical acts is rational in most cases as far as I am concerned. Now I am retired I have escaped working in an office where KISS FM or Greatest Hits Radio was played. The limited playlists quickly bred contempt through over-familiarity. I couldn’t name many of the artists/songs that I heard but I can say that I never want to hear George Fucking Ezra ever again, nor Dua Lipa/Elton John’s duet and Ed Sheeran can fuck right off!
I have disregard for a significant amount of pop music – amounts to at least 95%, no, make that 99% – but, you know what, it is bland music radio I reserve 100% of my disregard for.
My wife has Greatest Hits Radio on at the moment and she’s not even in the room. If I’m honest, it’s not Great (SWIDT?) but better than Heart or BBC Sussex. Damned with faint praise…..
Am I the only person who’s becoming more and more tolerant about music with each year that goes by? Sure, lots of artists that I don’t actively choose to listen to, but when I listen to the radio (which is 7 hours per day, at work, not by choice) I constantly hear songs and artists that I used to despise and now I find myself thinking “this isn’t that bad, actually” and ending up humming along quite cheerfully.
I can even tolerate Neil Young on the radio, safe in the knowledge that I won’t have to hear his voice again for the next few months or so!
I’m more tolerant of older stuff, although Queen tries my patience, largely due to over exposure. Newer material is less easy to get on with, maybe it’s the production. No matter, if it’s on the radio, there’ll be something else along in a few minutes. Fortunately, most of my colleagues are over 50 so aren’t listening to whatever is in the charts these days.
Jethro Tull
Queen
The Clash
Paul Weller/ The Jam
Billy Bragg ( I feel regret at at this as we were once “comrades” of a sort, but ‘Sexuality” is by far the worst pop song I have ever heard: like a trendy vicar teaching a sex education class)
He was very close to Billy Bragg. I think he worked for the record company so I think he did it with his blessing. Both West Ham fans. Jupitus was the artist in the acclaimed West Ham fanzine Fortune’s Always Hiding.
As I’ve mentioned before on this forum, the line in Sexuality that really grates is when he says, “I’ve had relations with girls from many nations.” I think to myself: no you haven’t, mate – you’ve got a face like a frightened spatula.
“I’ve made passes at women of all classes” – careful, now!
Of course, he has now “updated” some of the later lyrics, from “Just because you’re gay, I won’t turn you away. If you stick around, I’m sure that we can find some common ground” to “Just because you’re they, I won’t turn you away. If you stick around, I’m sure that we can find the right pronoun”.
Doesn’t even scan properly.
There was a Mitsubishi Zero car. It was a limited edition (only 50 produced) of the late 90s Evo VI rally car. Maybe Billy Bragg is a car obsessive because it was a very niche product. Or he was desperate for a rhyme. It was actually called the Zero Fighter, which seems like a woeful lapse in taste. Oh, and Phill Jupitus was BB’s roadie for a while. I saw them both at Brighton Top Rank some time in the 80s (PB doing his woeful Porky the Poet act).
Texas- think they are something credible (especially Sharleen, she’s an egomaniac) but had 1 good song right at the start and then a load of insipid crap, just got lucky because Chris Evans fancied Sharleen and played their songs to death
Bruce Springsteen – Meatloaf with a pick up truck
Florence and the Machine – you can’t be singing like that deliberately surely?
See also Tom Waits
Elvis Costello – too clever by half. Too clever even to write any tunes
Stereophonics- like shooting fish in a barrel but worse than Hitler
Elvis Presley.
I know he’s the root inspiration of many, and the sheer excitement generated when he was first seen and heard. But a Best Of will suffice.
ELO.
More to do with Jeff Lynne’s name dropping, but I really don’t need to hear Mr Blue Sky again.
Eventually, every act who ever made a record will appear in this thread. But I am not participating, my New Year’s resolution is to be more positive about things I like and to shun negativity
There are some surprising inclusions here, acts that I would have thought all contributors would at least tolerate. I try to take the view that anyone who ever got a record deal did better than nearly everyone else and someone saw some merit in them, at least for a while.
I’m the same about Enfield – based on the appearance and behaviour of one of their supporters at the Woking bar at half-time. He pushed his way to the front, carrying his small boy aloft, and then once he had successfully wobbled his way to the front, asked for a lemonade “for the boy” in a pleading, big-hearted way, as if the young lad was about to pass out. As the lemonade was poured he then said “oh and four lagers, a Guinness and…”.
He was a large man and had one of those deep voices that carry. Probably considered a legend in his local but a total bell end everywhere else. He stood near me during the second half, spouting high decibel thicko drivel – I don’t think I have disliked anyone more or since. He’s probably dead by now, hopefully.
Oh yes…hatred of opposing non-league football teams because of their fans, managers or officials! I’ll have Woking, Enfield, Kingstonian, Walton & Hersham, Dartford and Maidstone for starters…
The classic ‘irrational’ dislike I have is REM. I own several of their albums, and I can see they’re a quality group, but in the words of the focus-group guy on Frasier…I just don’t like them. I think it goes back to a few interviews I read with them, where they were incredibly condescending to the journalists. Mike Mills also has rubbish specs and a naff beard.
So – who is the most irritating band/artist for the Afterword? Let’s add up the scores.
In joint 5th, covering all the eras:
AC/DC, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Clash, ELO, Elvis Costello, Elvis Presley, Hue & Cry, Kasabian, Kate Bush, Paul Weller, Pet Shop Boys, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Scouting for Girls, Status Quo, Steely Dan, Thompson Twins, U2
In 4th place:
Anne Lennox/Eurythmics, Billy Bragg, The Cure (oh you fickle people), Mumford and Sons, R**r*ig, Sam Smith, Spandau Ballet, Steeleye Span, Stereophonics, Talk Talk, Van Morrison
Coming in at number 3, it’s the 90s:
Oasis, Radiohead
That coveted number 2 position (in all senses):
Deacon Blue, Ed Sheeran
And the number one irritating band for the Afterword is:
Queen
(Dis)honourable mention for
* 21st Century solo singers who try and fit 27 notes into a three word chorus
* American mock punk
* Anything synth pop and shoulder pads.
* Breathy, jazz-lite ironic cover versions of punk classics
* Drilling and vomiting versions of heavy metal
* Hair (gel) metal and fiddly widdly guitars
* Shrieking rawk singers
* Stock, Aitken & Waterman stuff
A spreadsheet of all 128 acts will be shared with KFD so that selected cuts can be posted in a follow-up thread.
I feel we should take to the stage and sing, ps. Sing our hearts out in a duelling overblown duet set to some trite melody, maybe dressed as cats or rollerskating trains, or both.
Sadly, nobody else joined you in a scathing indictment of the Knight of musical theatre.
I haven’t commented at all on this thread because this is not a sad day, it is a beautiful day, it is a new day. We are together. We are unified, and all for the cause. Because together, we got power. Apart, we got pow-wow. Today on this AW blog, you will hear gospel. And rhythm and blues and jazz. And piss poor musical numbers. All those are just labels. We know that music is music.
I feel you. Ironically, as an outlier among outliers, we all know what that’s like, even if we can’t share your unique perspective. I, for example, had never heard or heard of Sam Smith until he was soundly trashed by several fellow Afterworders. Now I find Sam (let’s avoid pronouns altogether), rather entertaining. Result! Pariah!
Sam Smith’s parents ran/run the pub in the village next to the village where I lived as a teenager. There’s at least one table in the pub made from a wagon wheel hanging by chains from the ceiling’s oak beams. Isolated up on a hilltop, it can get a bit Wuthering Heights up there when it is foggy.
I went to secondary school round the corner from the pub where George Ezra’s mum worked behind the bar of the Old Barge pub next to the river.
I am aware that this is a possibly ironic comment but is it not worrying that a negative thread ( though I think the ‘irrational’ adjective was designed to avoid it) has led to so many finding the energy to bang away on their keyboard. How about you take the trouble to write about something productive. The casual dismissal of talented people who did years of work is… I don’t know… disappointing from those on a site that on the whole has always avoided the worst darkness of the web. I am of the view that artists should be respected. Whitney Houston had technique but no feeling? Do you mean that you didn’t enjoy her music?
While I’m banging on, this is why I find my own partisanship in sport to be something I am wanting to get beyond. I took too much pleasure in Virat Kohli’s failures in the test series.
I agree.
I dislike Abba, Queen, Kate Bush, everything Prog, Meatloaf (contd p94) but that’s because I don’t like them.
I truly, madly and deeply dislike The Cure because of the very stupid hair. Now THAT’S irrational.
As I said up thread despite never hearing a note by Scouting for Girls I can have an irrational dislike of them because I dislike their name. Just because of the name I wouldn’t seek out anything by them, same for the Pigeon Detectives.
I didn’t like Cockney Rebel in the seventies because the singer looked like the class bully.
I can’t have a view about Whitney Houston as I’ve only ever heard that song and nothing else. I haven’t listened to ‘pop’ music radio since the eighties apart from working in an office for a couple of months a few years ago where the radio was playing, it was playing I wasn’t listening.
There are any number of musicians, most of whom were mentioned above, who I think are just bloody awful, so my reasons for disliking them are fair, so far as I’m concerned. However, my hatred of Dexys Midnight Runners is different and pretty much entirely irrational. It’s got nothing to do with Kevin Rowlands’ ridiculous voice and, well, any number of other perfectly sensible reasons to dislike them, such as their lack of regard for apostrophes or that absurd po-faced manifesto. No, the real reason I always hated Dexys was because of their guitarist/banjo player and his stupid exaggerated style of strumming. That was it.
Your reason for disliking them sounds quite sensible. I dislike the Fine Young Cannibals because of the guitarist’s bendy legs in the video for She Drives Me Crazy.
Vincent says
Spandau Ballet
Bay City Rollers
Billy Bragg
Oasis
Eurythmics
American mock punk
Sam Smith
Take That
Kiss
Grateful Dead
Drilling and vomitting versions of heavy metal
Shrieking rawk singers
I could go on…..
Tiggerlion says
I’d say a dislike of most of those is perfectly rational.
Colin H says
Good call, Freddy – Thompson Twins: ghastly.
I can add, just off the cuff, Anne Lennox, Runrig, Bob Dylan, Ron Wood/Rolling Stones, Steely Dan, probably lots more…
Mind you, sometimes the dislike isn’t entirely irrational: I can make cases for the appalling overratedness, smugness and vacuity of a lot of these people. But it’s time I wouldn’t get back.
Boneshaker says
Plenty for whom I have a wholly rational dislike, but if you are asking about those which set the teeth on edge for no discernible reason, the following leap to mind.
Led Zeppelin
The Housemartins / The Beautiful South
Joy Division / New Order
Fairport Convention
Rigid Digit says
Loads, and all irrational – no logical reason other than prejudice.
A selection:
– Spandau Ballet – too “nice”, too clean, and Tony Hadley comes across as a prize prat
(although I’m latterly warming to Gary Kamp, and believe John Keeble is a great drummer)
– Wham – girls band!
– Nirvana – make a fine noise, but not convinced they have a position in the pantheon of greats
– Stock, Aitken & Waterman stuff
(The story of how the producers came together, worked stuff up, and plotted supremacy is an interesting tal. Hut what came out of the studio is far from interesting)
– Any of the glut of 21st Century solo singers who try and fit 27 notes into a three word chorus
dwightstrut says
U2 — Bono. Need I say more?
Duran Duran — All the girls at school fancied them and not me. (Of course, in retrospect I do realise that sitting on my own in a smoke-filled sixth form common room listening to the skronkier King Crimson albums was unlikely to have them swooning over me.)
The Strokes — WTF was all that about? I’ve never heard such derivative, workmanlike and tuneless dirges before in my life.
Oasis — See above, but with the acknowledgment there were tunes. Somebody else’s tunes, but hey, still an improvement.
I have a bad case of flu and it’s making me grumpy. I’ll stop there.
seanioio says
I can only think of a few, but for some reason they really irritate.
Queen
They bring out my inner music snob. When people tell me they like Queen, my head responds with ‘so you don’t like music then?’ (as I said – music snobbery of the highest order & shows I am a tool!)
The Kooks
I am fully justified in this one. I will listen to most things, but not this – i have to leave a shop if they are playing! Totally irrationa I hear you say,l but they bring out a level of distaste i have only ever felt for politicians
Van Morrison
It is mainly Brown Eyed Girl i dislike, but I really really can’t abide it
Rigid Digit says
An apprentice at work took great pleasure in sharing their Spotify wrapped.
Most listened to band – Queen (by quite a long way over anything else)
Most listened to song – Bohemain Rhapsody (beating number 2 by about 3:1)
I suggested they listen to the first two albums – they came back saying “it was OK, didn’t really like it though. Only Seven Seas Of Rhye”
Slug says
I too share your dislike of Queen and also am quick to judge anyone who professes a fondness for them. It’s that smarmy, self-conscious “look at us” theatricality of their music that I find so irritating. These days, this view has got me accused of homophobia more than once. I conceded Freddie Mercury was a very fine front man, but, dear god, the music the whole band produced is unforgivable.
That, and the fact that Boh Rhap was number one for what seemed like a entire decade when I were a lad and you couldn’t bloody avoid it on’t wireless, ever.
fitterstoke says
“Quick to judge”? Maybe you and Hawkfall will have a chance for a chat at a future mingle…
Hawkfall says
I don’t mind anyone thinking I have bad musical taste because I like Queen. This is largely because I know that I don’t have great musical taste (I have far too many KISS CDs for me to argue otherwise). I’m perfectly fine with this state of affairs.
I can also understand why people don’t like Queen: their music is overproduced, camp, theatrical etc. And even I don’t really like the stuff they did after The Works. But again, to build on the point I made below, it’s the things that you folks don’t like about them that I like. I like the theatricality and the pomposity and the camp. They were never boring. The older I get the more I want pop music to entertain me. And that’s what Queen wanted to do more than anything else. This is band who wrote a song called “Let Me Entertain You” after all.
Tiggerlion says
I thought that was Robbie Williams. Can’t say I’ve been paying much attention.
fitterstoke says
I thought it was from “Gypsy”…
Hawkfall says
Stephen did it first, Freddie second and Robbie third.
SteveT says
With you on Queen. Dire Straits without the Straits
Leffe Gin says
Steeleye Span
The Shadows
Cliff Richard
…although some of Cliff’s late 70s songs are classics. And Move It.
Damn!
Colin H says
Yes – Steeleye Span: after the first LP and a couple of moments with Carthy on the next two, absolutely ghastly!
Leffe Gin says
I can see that they are very good musicians (whoever the mandolin player was especially) but they just grate. Martin Carthy I also really like. I think the band is possessed by an evil spirit that consumes all who play with it.
SteveT says
I should like Martin Carthy – fine guitar player but his singing is bloody awful. Norma and Eliza should have been the only singers in the family.
Feedback_File says
Oh I’m there with Steely Spam – dreadful. Not sure how they achieved such elevated status in the folk world
Slug says
Had Cliff just paused after releasing Move It, and then met a tragic end (perhaps in a car accident on a wet B road en route to his next gig in Horsham or somewhere) he would still be regarded -genuinely- as Britain’s answer to Elvis.
Instead, we got “Travelling Light”. Oh well.
Captain Darling says
Only one for me: Ed Sheeran. I’ve had an entirely irrational dislike of him since he first appeared.
True, his music and songs do nothing for me, but then so do lots of other artists’. By all accounts he’s a nice guy and great to work with, he clearly knows his way around a pop song, and he helps good causes. Regardless of all this, he leaves me completely cold.
He didn’t help himself with his turn in Game of Thrones and his silly comments about Do They Know It’s Christmas, but on the other hand he’s worth a gazillion pounds and has a crazy amount of awards and fans, so I suppose he can rise above my criticism.
fitterstoke says
I may have mentioned before: I have an irrational dislike of Talk Talk.
And Deacon Blue.
No point in trying to justify it – it’s irrational but no less visceral.
(I’ll get me coat…)
Twang says
Agree on Talk Talk. Never knowingly heard DB but prepared to dislike them in solidarity.
fitterstoke says
Huzzah! Thanks, man…
Tiggerlion says
I’ve tried with Deacon Blue because they name themselves after a Steely Dan song, which suggests self deprecation and a sense of humour. Don’t bother.
Bamber says
I can see the Deacon Blue thing. They had a cringe factor with songs like Dignity and Fergus Sings the Blues but crossed the line for me with “do what I should have did”. He was an ex teacher FFS.
Colin H says
Scotland, unfortunately, had a real problem in the 80s with dour, self-righteous, clenched-buttock singers in floppy haircuts doing angular moves in bomber jackets rolled up to the elbows with deeply, deeply unappealing songs that: (a) seemed to appeal to Scots of their era as if they were national anthems for the second coming; (b) sounded like a load of po-faced kak to the rest of us. Chief among these were R**rig and D**con Bl**. Ghastly.
fitterstoke says
Colin has the mot juste – it’s like you read my mind.
Now imagine living in Glasgow at peak “floppy haircut”…
Vincent says
I’ll say. I was in Scotland 1984 to 1993. A bit too much up itself, wanting to be like the worst of England at the time, but not willing to accept the horrid equivalence.
fitterstoke says
I’m not sure that’s true
In the case of Deacon Blue.
They didn’t want to be like “the worst of England at the time”:
they actually thought they were Glasgow’s answer to Steely Dan…
…they weren’t.
Junior Wells says
But apart from that Colin….
Hawkfall says
There were lots of them to choose from. I mentioned a while back that around the time Q did a “Ten Earnest Scottish bands in Vests” feature. Deacon Blue, R**r*ig, Goodbye Mr Mackenzie, Hue & Cry, the Big Dish, The Silencers, etc.
Colin H says
Yes, the guy from Hue & Cry was totally up himself. A joyless entity determined to spread his contempt as far possible (while looking for poor old Linda who was probably trying to get as far away from him as possible).
Clive says
In bars of twelve or less is excrutiating
fentonsteve says
Kasabian
Stereophonics
Oasis
et al.
Lumpen meat-and-potatoes rock and no roll with it.
Freddy Steady says
Oooh yes @fentonsteve .Kasabian. Oafs. (Oaves?)
Maybe a bit too rational though
fentonsteve says
You might be right. Entirely rational to music snobs like us.
I quite like one Stereophonics song and maybe half a dozen by Oasis, so can I substitute them with Jamiroquai?
It’s not the hat, it’s… everything.
SteveT says
I like one Stereophonics song – the one they didn’t write
slotbadger says
Off the top of my head:
Radiohead
Ed Sheeran
Sam Smith
Robyn Hitchcock
Anyone who does breathy, jazz-lite ironic cover versions of punk classics
Frank Zappa
Father John Misty
NigelT says
Irrational..? I think there is usually some underlying reason, but here goes…
The Proclaimers – I want to listen in stereo, not watch
Judas Priest – stupid name
AC/DC – terrible vocals
Status Quo – just because. Pictures of Matchstick Men is ok though.
Rigid Digit says
Now hang on, surely no-one can irrationally dislike Status Quo. OK, everything since the 90s has been a bit sh*t, but it’s Quo … oh, Rockin All Over The World is the wrong side of tedious. As you were.
Hawkfall says
The stuff that AC/DC did with the guy before the guy with terrible vocals came along is much better than the stuff they’ve done with the guy with terrible vocals.
Lodestone of Wrongness says
A topical choice methinks – The Cure. Can’t get past the stupid hair – never listened to a song of theirs for more than 27.2 seconds.
Boneshaker says
Yes, good one. And Robert Smith now looks like his own granny.
Bamber says
He played Sean Hughes’s mother in the final episode of Sean’s Show on Channel 4. That was back in the 90s so he might accept that he now looks like Sean’s granny.
slotbadger says
You liked 17 Seconds then? 😉
Lunaman says
Have an up!
Lodestone of Wrongness says
I’m guessing that’s a song or album title but I will never know
Twang says
Simple Minds
Depeche Mode
Pet Shop Boys
Talk Talk
Heaven 17
Tears For Fears (a bit. Some stuff ok).
Prince
I see there’s a theme here.
Twang says
Oh and Human League, obvs.
pencilsqueezer says
I find this a difficult question because if I don’t actively take an interest in a particular band/musician/singer my reaction is indifference rather than harbouring an active dislike. I find that to be true about myself about everything. Hating things takes energy and I have better uses for that like washing the dishes. However there is one name that will invariably cause me to lower my brows and curl my lip that name being Andrew Lloyd Webber. I’m not sure if this is irrational though or more just an understandable reaction akin to the way one automatically recoils after inadvertently treading in dog crap.
Twang says
I’m with you P, I usually avoid hate threads but I’m feeling a bit arsey so WTF.
pencilsqueezer says
I think these kind of threads are fun but for the reason I gave above I can’t summon up the requisite ire. I just ignore art and people I dislike. It and they are not worth the effort.
Gary says
To quote Roger Waters:
We cower in our shelters with our hands over our ears
Lloyd-Webber’s awful stuff runs for years and years and years
An earthquake hits the theatre, but the operetta lingers
Then the piano lid comes down and breaks his fucking fingers
It’s a miracle
pencilsqueezer says
First time I’ve laughed in a couple of days. Diolch Gary.
dwightstrut says
It was the first time Roger Waters had laughed since 1971.
Hamlet says
Reminds me of the Fry and Laurie sketch:
“…I hate the kid.”
“But every year you take him to London to see The Phantom Of The Opera!”
“I do that because I hate him.”
Clive says
Queen … even Nickelback trail by a long way. Not really irrational though … they are just total shit as are all their fans.
Hot Shot Hamish says
Bob Dylan apart from Subterranean Homesick Blues and Must Be Santa which is great
Tina Turner
Annie Lennox – strangely only the solo stuff, quite like Eurythmics
retropath2 says
Coldplay, ABBA, Queen, Sheeran are the big 4. Because I am an unprincipled snob.
Diddley Farquar says
I think irrational is the right word when it’s an act you know is objectively good but it just doesn’t appeal. On Steven Wilson’s Album Years they were both rather unmoved by Springsteen but they knew the records were clearly good. I’m with them on Bruce. First time I tried was Darkness OTEOT because it was the NME writers’ album of the year but it never really grabbed me. I have a few albums but I never want to put one on. I find him a rather dull individual overall.
Also Joni, a great artist but I’m not going to play anything.
Elvis Costello. It’s often a voice thing with those I dislike but also this worthy approach. Acts that Hepworth likes best tend to be the ones. Although he’s said he likes to play the trilogy of Grace Jones albums and Joy Division’s Closer and I’m with him there.
Bejesus says
Ed Sheeran
Oasis
Adam Ant
Adele
Spandau
Jedward
Are just a few off the top of my head . Tv / Radio goes straight off if they come on .
Gary says
I would be very surprised if you (or, indeed, anyone else on the planet, outside of their immediate family) would recognise a Jedward song if it came on the radio.
Captain Darling says
I wouldn’t recognise Jedward if they were sat next to me, never mind on the radio.
Bamber says
The Thrills win this for me by a mile.
Franz Ferdinand
Red Hot Chilli Peppers – I think it was Mike Scott who said something along the lines of… How come wherever I am in the world, whenever I ask what’s that shite on the radio? the answer is always the Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
Maroon 5
Black Eyed Peas
Mumford and Sons
I’d better step away from this thread or I’ll be here all day.
Rigid Digit says
There was a brief moment in early 2000s where Red Hot Chilli Peppers were one of the biggest bands on the planet. How?
Corporate muscle? lack of alternative? nice enough noise but “biggest band ever”, nah
pencilsqueezer says
John Darko the audio reviewer refers to any device that has a button that immediately clicks past any disliked music as a “Red Hot Chilli Peppers Button” such is his dislike of them.
Vincent says
As Nick Cave once said, “I’m forever near a stereo saying, ‘What the fuck is this garbage?’ And the answer is always the Red Hot Chili Peppers.”
Gatz says
So we have Mike Scott and Nick Cave. I heard it attributed to Elvis Costello. Any more?
Bamber says
Well @Vincent I sit corrected. The internet seems to be agreed that it was Nick Cave who coined this memorable phrase.
Clive says
Mumford and sons are ok … how about that one that starts really slow and ends up really fast?
Gatz says
The first time I saw Mumford and Sons, or even heard of them, was TV spot of them walking along a country lane wearing tweed caps and playing acoustic instruments. I honestly couldn’t tell where they were a genuine band or a comedy act’s piss take. Mind you, I have the same reaction to Lankum, even though I know they are as serious a they so earnestly wish to appear.
fitterstoke says
Those crazy Mumfords! Possibly the only band I could happily have slapped on first sighting…
…then I saw The Mary Wallopers – so now there are two…
Bamber says
Good call. I find them highly irritating.
Max the Dog says
I agree with all of the above.
duco01 says
Björk
Queen
Anyone performing a song by Stephen Bloody Sondheim. Grrrrrr….
Frank Sinatra, Tony Bennett, Johnny Mathis, Perry Como, Dean Martin, Jack Jones (not the trade union leader), Andy Williams, Sammy Davis Jr – that entire genre of singers, really.
bobness says
For me…
The Cure
Kasabian
The Clash
My dislike of UB40, Van Morrison and Ed Sheeran is entirely rational.
chiz says
Rush. I dunno, it’s… everything about them. Pretentious lyrics. Double neck guitars. Screechy vocals. Drum solos. Goblins. Capes, probably. Mostly though it’s the triumph of virtuosity over feel. Just because you can play like that doesn’t mean you should.
Oh, and Springsteen. Basically Meatloaf but without the sense of humour.
fitterstoke says
Goblins? Capes??
pencilsqueezer says
I think Goblin Meat Pies were a usual rider demand and didn’t Geoff Capes roadie for them?
hubert rawlinson says
Are Goblin Meat Pies better or worse than Fray Bentos pies?
pencilsqueezer says
It probably depends on how much you find goblin meat toothsome.
chiz says
Well, elves, kimonos, you know. I don’t study them that closely to be honest
fitterstoke says
Elves???
Vincent says
I can forgive the snideness about elves for the perfect description of Broooce: “Meat Loaf: the band Bruce Springsteen COULD have been”.
chiz says
Rivendell?
fitterstoke says
Okay, I’ll give you that one – one song fifty years ago.
I only latched onto goblins and capes ‘cos it was lazy…some of the other stuff was valid critique, sometimes even for people who like ‘em!
Hawkfall says
I tend to agree with David Hepworth’s observation that the thing that most annoys non-fans about bands is also precisely the thing that fans of the bands treasure.
I’m a Rush fan and my favourite song of theirs is probably La Villa Strangiato, which is just them showing off their musicianship for 8 minutes. To be fair, Rush are in on the joke and don’t take themselves too seriously.
I also like Queen. I recall on a Word Podcast that Stuart Maconie described them scathingly as a “pantomime Led Zeppelin”. Perfectly good description of their first 5 albums or so and precisely why I like them.
retropath2 says
Which makes The Darkness a pantomime Queen?
Hawkfall says
I always thought of them more as a High School Musical Queen.
(Quite liked them though)
Twang says
I’ve never understood that Zep comparison. They don’t sound anything like them.
fitterstoke says
Seconded.
Rigid Digit says
There are 4 in the band and the bass player rarely says anything
Diddley Farquar says
They both had their dance music phase and their pretentious, fantasy lyrics. An Indian connection? Er…
Rigid Digit says
The Song Remains The Shami Kebab
These Are The Dahls Of Our Lives
Diddley Farquar says
Yes that’s it. Also I’m Going Slightly Madras.
Diddley Farquar says
Achille’s Last Nan
Turtleface says
U2
Scouting for Girls
Radiohead
Oasis
Sports Team
Diddley Farquar says
Tom Jones, all that bogus straining
fitterstoke says
Where is Moose?
Lodestone of Wrongness says
I’m thinking there’s too many bands/artists on here that you are listing because you actually don’t like them.
The OP was after those who you grudgingly admit are, in fact, ok but for whatever reason you hate.
I hate The Cure because of that knobhead’s hair. I rest my case.
Nick L says
I’ve always liked the Cure’s music, but would love to say to Robert Smith (and Simon Gallop, the bass player) for goodness sake, please get your hair cut. Practically any other style would look better and more importantly, make me like them even more.
Leem says
The sainted Kate Bush
Steely Dan no mirth no worth
Paul Weller too worthy
Pet Shop Boys too wordy no tuney
All pale, pasty mid 80s nice hair, nice suits, nice knitwear – Prefab Sprout , Paddy Outoftoon, Blow Monkeys, Orange Juice, Waterboys, Lloyd Cole you get the picture
Dexys in all its pretentious incarnations
Hair (gel) metal and fiddly widdly guitars
Post 1970 Eric Clapton
Pre 2026 Van Morrison
Kate Bush
Lodestone of Wrongness says
Again, you don’t like them cos you don’t like them.
I really, really dislike Kate Bush but that’s because she makes arty, pretentious music for people with no musical taste whatsoever but who once got an O- level in English Literature not because her shrilling, silly voice really, really irritates me.
Diddley Farquar says
That’s just the way these threads develop. But that’s OK. It’s just a bit of fun, not to be taken too seriously.
Freddy Steady says
Thank you @allium-sativum
Just a bit of fun.
Lodestone of Wrongness says
Apologies, I thought I was having some fun (like disliking a major band because of the lead bloke’s hair), I wasn’t casting nasturtiums..
Freddy Steady says
Now I read back your comment about Fat Bob’s hair I offer my apologies.
Aren’t we being nice!
Jaygee says
@Freddy-Steady
And then someone loses an eye
Tiggerlion says
Interesting. Steely Dan is one of the very few acts that have made me laugh.
Diddley Farquar says
Bodacious cowboys such as your friend/Will never be welcome here high in the Custerdome.
Genius. So precise.
Twang says
I thought that. One of my favourite things is their humour.
Vincent says
“Turn up The Eagles, the neighbours are listening” still cracks me up.
hubert rawlinson says
But despite never hearing a note by Scouting for Girls I can have an irrational dislike of them because I dislike their name, but then of course I’m rationalising why I dislike them.
I recall Twisted Sister on the Tube and the ‘singer’ wiping his make up off saying people didn’t like their music because he was wearing make up (some such bollocks anyway). Again my dislike wasn’t irrational because I thought at the time they weren’t liked because they were shit.
Irrational surely is looking at a photograph of a band and disliking their look without hearing them.
Pencil is right I reserve a healthy dose of indifference to a lot of the bands listed above as I’ve never heard a note of lots of them.
fitterstoke says
Irrational is also disliking them because everyone else puts them on a pedestal…
Freddy Steady says
You make some good points there @hubert-rawlinson
I THINK part of my irrational dislike of the Thompson Twins was how Alannah Currie looked. I have a similar dislike of Andie McDowell. I know it’s not right.
Thegp says
Real challenge wank that was back in the day
Freddy Steady says
Well, quite!
Sound hound says
Fairground Attraction for me. Maybe it is because the first time i heard perfect coincided with me being laid low with a bad bout of flu but the very sound of Edie Readers voice brings me out in a cold sweat. Is this irrational? I am not sure but it is very real to me.
eddie g says
Any new band that is raved about by critics and who will probably never make a third album because by then another new band will have appeared.
And probably another.
Beezer says
Yes, indifferent to a lot of bands is possibly the best way to describe things.
That and irritation. Some bands irritate. In particular The Flaming Lips, and even more in particular their leader Wayne Coyne. Their music doesn’t interest me and his attitude of forced eccentricity and performance art grate on my tits no end.
I attach a clip below of the estimable Beck singing his excellent long droning ballad ‘Round The Bend’. Coyne is on stage with him for some reason and decides to stand behind him whirling a light bulb round his head for the duration, distracting everyone. If I’d been singing, I’d have sang it twice through until the show off bastard’s arm fell off.
Captain Darling says
Based on the little I know about the Flaming Lips, I agree. I imagine them always saying, “Look at us, aren’t we weird? LOOK AT US!”
Black Type says
I their strong defence, I saw them in Hull in our City of Culture year, and it was one of the best live concert experiences I’ve ever had. My friend, who’s seen untold numbers of gigs in town, rates it as the absolute best she’s ever witnessed.
Sewer Robot says
As above, I don’t think my dislike of any musical act is “irrational”, being based always on solid foundations.*
Football teams, on the other hand..
(*It’s notable how many artists whose music you have no time for turn out to be alright geezers and lasses. Someone mentioned Gary Kemp way up there and watching the recent Live Aid documentary I found myself thinking “I could go for a pint with that guy”)
davebigpicture says
Comes across very well on the Rockenteurs podcast with Guy Pratt.
Captain Darling says
Yes, he seems like a really decent sort, always enthusiastic and knowledgeable about the interviewee’s career (just like Guy).
He often pops up in 1980s/Blitz Club documentaries and articles and treats his and Spandau’s part in that era with a rather charming mixture of pride and “What *were* we like, eh?”
I wasn’t a big fan of ver Ballet back in the day (Duran Duran all the way for me in that particular argument), but I picked up a 3CD compilation after GK won me over with the Rockonteurs. It showed that he can really write a tune. I’ll Fly For You might not be as well known as the classics Gold (Gold!) or True, but for me it’s a terrific piece of work. Long may his kilt-and-puffy-shirt-type-combo fly.
Twang says
I like GK a lot. I bought his last solo album which is good if a bit serious but it was a lockdown album I think. His one recorded in Ireland is a complete surprise after ver Ballet (whose greatest hits is a great album).
His autobiography is excellent too.
Black Celebration says
This is probably based on whether I liked them in interviews etc – some of their music might be astonishing for all I know but I’m not going to go further into any back catalogues any time soon for :
Kanye or Wheezy or whatever he is known as now.
Sam Smith
Lenny Kravitz
I think it’s because they try too hard to appear extraordinary but my sense is they are not and have been very very lucky, particularly if a good song has come their way.
I used to actively dislike Dire Straits but my heart’s not in it any more – life’s too short. I have accepted that Money for Nothing wasn’t Mark speaking his truth, as I had thought at the time. I think he now says it was from an overheard conversation at a truck stop.
Beezer says
In a department store in Manhattan. He was buying white goods one afternoon with his then wife. It’s reported speech from overhearing some of the delivery guys cracking wise at what was showing on MTV on the display tv’s.
RedLemon says
…and he said that at the time. It’s not something new.
Black Type says
Wot, no Radiohead? They are objectively a very talented band, but ‘Thom’ is my absolutely irrational hate…his ‘voice’, his demeanour, his eminently punchable face…and that fucking ‘h’. Bastard.
Sewer Robot says
This came up randomly on my YouTube recently. Can’t confirm them all but the first five seem to be spot on
(Each Radiohead album described by Peep Show)
slotbadger says
Radiohead were the first band I thought of. Earnest pompous dirges and yes to that bloody ‘h’.
Vincent says
Indeed, Thom Yorke is the Owen Jones of rock n’roll.
Black Type says
Oh, come now, he can’t be *that* bad can he?
On reflection…yes, yes he can.
slotbadger says
Well, fanatic Corbynite and devoutly pro Palestinian polemicist Owen “OJ” Jones and grumpy dreich-rock peddler Thom Yorke would have a point of conflict to overcome first.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-40580326
Mike Hull says
Any hatred of various musical acts is rational in most cases as far as I am concerned. Now I am retired I have escaped working in an office where KISS FM or Greatest Hits Radio was played. The limited playlists quickly bred contempt through over-familiarity. I couldn’t name many of the artists/songs that I heard but I can say that I never want to hear George Fucking Ezra ever again, nor Dua Lipa/Elton John’s duet and Ed Sheeran can fuck right off!
deramdaze says
I have disregard for a significant amount of pop music – amounts to at least 95%, no, make that 99% – but, you know what, it is bland music radio I reserve 100% of my disregard for.
davebigpicture says
My wife has Greatest Hits Radio on at the moment and she’s not even in the room. If I’m honest, it’s not Great (SWIDT?) but better than Heart or BBC Sussex. Damned with faint praise…..
Mike_H says
I can probably give what I consider to be rational reasons for all of my many musical dislikes.
Locust says
Am I the only person who’s becoming more and more tolerant about music with each year that goes by? Sure, lots of artists that I don’t actively choose to listen to, but when I listen to the radio (which is 7 hours per day, at work, not by choice) I constantly hear songs and artists that I used to despise and now I find myself thinking “this isn’t that bad, actually” and ending up humming along quite cheerfully.
I can even tolerate Neil Young on the radio, safe in the knowledge that I won’t have to hear his voice again for the next few months or so!
davebigpicture says
I’m more tolerant of older stuff, although Queen tries my patience, largely due to over exposure. Newer material is less easy to get on with, maybe it’s the production. No matter, if it’s on the radio, there’ll be something else along in a few minutes. Fortunately, most of my colleagues are over 50 so aren’t listening to whatever is in the charts these days.
Pessoa says
Jethro Tull
Queen
The Clash
Paul Weller/ The Jam
Billy Bragg ( I feel regret at at this as we were once “comrades” of a sort, but ‘Sexuality” is by far the worst pop song I have ever heard: like a trendy vicar teaching a sex education class)
Thegp says
Yes yes to that Billy Bragg song.. had forgotten how awful the lyrics are to that😂
Lando Cakes says
I recall a Phil Jupitus (in his Porky the Poet days) version called Bestiality. “I’ve had relations/with collies and alsatians” etc. An improvement.
Bamber says
He was very close to Billy Bragg. I think he worked for the record company so I think he did it with his blessing. Both West Ham fans. Jupitus was the artist in the acclaimed West Ham fanzine Fortune’s Always Hiding.
Lando Cakes says
Oh undoubtedly – he did it as support at a Billy Bragg gig!
Hamlet says
As I’ve mentioned before on this forum, the line in Sexuality that really grates is when he says, “I’ve had relations with girls from many nations.” I think to myself: no you haven’t, mate – you’ve got a face like a frightened spatula.
“I’ve made passes at women of all classes” – careful, now!
Rigid Digit says
and there is no car called a Mitsubishi Zero. There is a Fighter Plane, but you don’t really “drive” one of those
retropath2 says
Of course, he has now “updated” some of the later lyrics, from “Just because you’re gay, I won’t turn you away. If you stick around, I’m sure that we can find some common ground” to “Just because you’re they, I won’t turn you away. If you stick around, I’m sure that we can find the right pronoun”.
Doesn’t even scan properly.
Rufus T Firefly says
There was a Mitsubishi Zero car. It was a limited edition (only 50 produced) of the late 90s Evo VI rally car. Maybe Billy Bragg is a car obsessive because it was a very niche product. Or he was desperate for a rhyme. It was actually called the Zero Fighter, which seems like a woeful lapse in taste. Oh, and Phill Jupitus was BB’s roadie for a while. I saw them both at Brighton Top Rank some time in the 80s (PB doing his woeful Porky the Poet act).
dai says
I quite like it, don’t think it’s meant to be taken too seriously, and the album is great in my opinion
Freddy Steady says
I’m with you @dai
In fact, it’s the only Billy Bragg album I like. It’s got actual tunes and less of the hectoring.
Nick L says
Absolutely, any album that has the always touching Tank Park Salute on is always going to be worth a listen.
davebigpicture says
Life’s a Riot…. still gets a regular spin. The video for Sexuality is good fun plus has Kirsty MacColl.
salwarpe says
Sexuality – weak and cold and tame and repressed
Junior Wells says
Anything synth pop and shoulder pads.
Thegp says
Randomly plucked but sure there are many..
Texas- think they are something credible (especially Sharleen, she’s an egomaniac) but had 1 good song right at the start and then a load of insipid crap, just got lucky because Chris Evans fancied Sharleen and played their songs to death
Bruce Springsteen – Meatloaf with a pick up truck
Florence and the Machine – you can’t be singing like that deliberately surely?
See also Tom Waits
Elvis Costello – too clever by half. Too clever even to write any tunes
Stereophonics- like shooting fish in a barrel but worse than Hitler
dai says
Meatloaf with a pick up truck?
Henry Haddock says
Should’ve been the title of this thread: Bands worse than Hitler
TrypF says
One of Noel Gallagher’s bon mots* was about Florence Welch: “She always sings like someone’s just trodden on her foot”.
* That’s another thread in waiting – musicians whose interviews are far better than their music.
Rigid Digit says
Elvis Presley.
I know he’s the root inspiration of many, and the sheer excitement generated when he was first seen and heard. But a Best Of will suffice.
ELO.
More to do with Jeff Lynne’s name dropping, but I really don’t need to hear Mr Blue Sky again.
Lodestone of Wrongness says
ELO – stupid hair, goes in the same bin as The Cure
Always disliked Elvis cos my older brother adored him
dai says
Eventually, every act who ever made a record will appear in this thread. But I am not participating, my New Year’s resolution is to be more positive about things I like and to shun negativity
Tiggerlion says
Excellent! I’ll try the same. 😊
Jaygee says
@Dai
@Tiggerlion
A difficult – if not impossible – goal to achieve in that shunning negativity is paradoxically a form of negativity in itself
davebigpicture says
There are some surprising inclusions here, acts that I would have thought all contributors would at least tolerate. I try to take the view that anyone who ever got a record deal did better than nearly everyone else and someone saw some merit in them, at least for a while.
fitterstoke says
Wouldn’t disagree – but that’s a very rational viewpoint, slightly negating the request in the OP…
Lodestone of Wrongness says
I hate Birmingham City FC for no rational reason whatsoever. I sincerely hope they get relegated again and again. Bastards.
retropath2 says
Calling @stevet
Black Celebration says
I’m the same about Enfield – based on the appearance and behaviour of one of their supporters at the Woking bar at half-time. He pushed his way to the front, carrying his small boy aloft, and then once he had successfully wobbled his way to the front, asked for a lemonade “for the boy” in a pleading, big-hearted way, as if the young lad was about to pass out. As the lemonade was poured he then said “oh and four lagers, a Guinness and…”.
He was a large man and had one of those deep voices that carry. Probably considered a legend in his local but a total bell end everywhere else. He stood near me during the second half, spouting high decibel thicko drivel – I don’t think I have disliked anyone more or since. He’s probably dead by now, hopefully.
Nick L says
Oh yes…hatred of opposing non-league football teams because of their fans, managers or officials! I’ll have Woking, Enfield, Kingstonian, Walton & Hersham, Dartford and Maidstone for starters…
Jaygee says
@Dai
@Tiggerlion
A difficult goal to achieve in that shunning negativity is paradoxically a form of negativity in itself
Tiggerlion says
No harm in trying!
😉
Jaygee says
That’s the spirit!
Foxnose says
The word “irrational “ is seemingly being overlooked.
Jaygee says
@Foxnose
The AW equivalent Godwin’s Law states that no thread will attract more than three replies before its original posting parameters are trampled over.
Bands/Acts that leave me cold despite my having bought albums to try and see what the fuss was about include (but are not limited to):
Crowded House
Radiohead
Taylor Swift
Foxnose says
Also, there is nothing wrong with being negative about music- it says here.
hubert rawlinson says
Several people have been quoted as saying this but I think it sums up disliking something.
“Why does everyone take an instant dislike to me?
It saves time.”
slotbadger says
“Was it cos I lied when I was 17?”
Jaygee says
Know how you feel.
Twenty years later, people are still banging on about how I slipped and fell into that bloody sheep
Sitheref2409 says
Whitney Houston. She, and others of her ilk, helped create the Cowellization of singing. All technique, no feeling.
Hamlet says
The classic ‘irrational’ dislike I have is REM. I own several of their albums, and I can see they’re a quality group, but in the words of the focus-group guy on Frasier…I just don’t like them. I think it goes back to a few interviews I read with them, where they were incredibly condescending to the journalists. Mike Mills also has rubbish specs and a naff beard.
salwarpe says
So – who is the most irritating band/artist for the Afterword? Let’s add up the scores.
In joint 5th, covering all the eras:
AC/DC, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, Clash, ELO, Elvis Costello, Elvis Presley, Hue & Cry, Kasabian, Kate Bush, Paul Weller, Pet Shop Boys, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Scouting for Girls, Status Quo, Steely Dan, Thompson Twins, U2
In 4th place:
Anne Lennox/Eurythmics, Billy Bragg, The Cure (oh you fickle people), Mumford and Sons, R**r*ig, Sam Smith, Spandau Ballet, Steeleye Span, Stereophonics, Talk Talk, Van Morrison
Coming in at number 3, it’s the 90s:
Oasis, Radiohead
That coveted number 2 position (in all senses):
Deacon Blue, Ed Sheeran
And the number one irritating band for the Afterword is:
Queen
(Dis)honourable mention for
* 21st Century solo singers who try and fit 27 notes into a three word chorus
* American mock punk
* Anything synth pop and shoulder pads.
* Breathy, jazz-lite ironic cover versions of punk classics
* Drilling and vomiting versions of heavy metal
* Hair (gel) metal and fiddly widdly guitars
* Shrieking rawk singers
* Stock, Aitken & Waterman stuff
A spreadsheet of all 128 acts will be shared with KFD so that selected cuts can be posted in a follow-up thread.
pencilsqueezer says
In light of this I can’t see any way I can avoid thinking of you as an Andrew Lloyd Webber apologist Sal. A sad day. A new low.
salwarpe says
I feel we should take to the stage and sing, ps. Sing our hearts out in a duelling overblown duet set to some trite melody, maybe dressed as cats or rollerskating trains, or both.
Sadly, nobody else joined you in a scathing indictment of the Knight of musical theatre.
I haven’t commented at all on this thread because this is not a sad day, it is a beautiful day, it is a new day. We are together. We are unified, and all for the cause. Because together, we got power. Apart, we got pow-wow. Today on this AW blog, you will hear gospel. And rhythm and blues and jazz. And piss poor musical numbers. All those are just labels. We know that music is music.
pencilsqueezer says
I’m used to being a lone voice, an outlier even amongst outliers.
salwarpe says
I feel you. Ironically, as an outlier among outliers, we all know what that’s like, even if we can’t share your unique perspective. I, for example, had never heard or heard of Sam Smith until he was soundly trashed by several fellow Afterworders. Now I find Sam (let’s avoid pronouns altogether), rather entertaining. Result! Pariah!
fentonsteve says
Sam Smith’s parents ran/run the pub in the village next to the village where I lived as a teenager. There’s at least one table in the pub made from a wagon wheel hanging by chains from the ceiling’s oak beams. Isolated up on a hilltop, it can get a bit Wuthering Heights up there when it is foggy.
I went to secondary school round the corner from the pub where George Ezra’s mum worked behind the bar of the Old Barge pub next to the river.
salwarpe says
I’m assuming the pub they run wasn’t one of the famously strait-laced, conservative Samuel Smith pubs.
fentonsteve says
No, it’s now one of three (nearby) pubs in the Nutwood Pubs group. The frankly terrifying hanging wagon wheel has been moved outside.
Highest pub in Cambridgeshire, apparently. Not that it means much.
retropath2 says
Highest pub in Cambridgeshire. Until it floods, presumably.
Everygoodboydeservesfruita says
I am aware that this is a possibly ironic comment but is it not worrying that a negative thread ( though I think the ‘irrational’ adjective was designed to avoid it) has led to so many finding the energy to bang away on their keyboard. How about you take the trouble to write about something productive. The casual dismissal of talented people who did years of work is… I don’t know… disappointing from those on a site that on the whole has always avoided the worst darkness of the web. I am of the view that artists should be respected. Whitney Houston had technique but no feeling? Do you mean that you didn’t enjoy her music?
While I’m banging on, this is why I find my own partisanship in sport to be something I am wanting to get beyond. I took too much pleasure in Virat Kohli’s failures in the test series.
Foxnose says
I think you’re right. The irrational part should point to a missing part in you- not The Offended Articles TMFTL
Lodestone of Wrongness says
I agree.
I dislike Abba, Queen, Kate Bush, everything Prog, Meatloaf (contd p94) but that’s because I don’t like them.
I truly, madly and deeply dislike The Cure because of the very stupid hair. Now THAT’S irrational.
hubert rawlinson says
As I said up thread despite never hearing a note by Scouting for Girls I can have an irrational dislike of them because I dislike their name. Just because of the name I wouldn’t seek out anything by them, same for the Pigeon Detectives.
I didn’t like Cockney Rebel in the seventies because the singer looked like the class bully.
I can’t have a view about Whitney Houston as I’ve only ever heard that song and nothing else. I haven’t listened to ‘pop’ music radio since the eighties apart from working in an office for a couple of months a few years ago where the radio was playing, it was playing I wasn’t listening.
yorkio says
There are any number of musicians, most of whom were mentioned above, who I think are just bloody awful, so my reasons for disliking them are fair, so far as I’m concerned. However, my hatred of Dexys Midnight Runners is different and pretty much entirely irrational. It’s got nothing to do with Kevin Rowlands’ ridiculous voice and, well, any number of other perfectly sensible reasons to dislike them, such as their lack of regard for apostrophes or that absurd po-faced manifesto. No, the real reason I always hated Dexys was because of their guitarist/banjo player and his stupid exaggerated style of strumming. That was it.
Captain Darling says
Your reason for disliking them sounds quite sensible. I dislike the Fine Young Cannibals because of the guitarist’s bendy legs in the video for She Drives Me Crazy.
retropath2 says
And the bendy legs of, actually, both the guitarist and bassist, Mssrs Steele and Cox, was one the main reasons I liked them!
Black Celebration says
They were in The Beat as well. I guess there were so many of them in that band that their wobbly pins might have wibbled under the radar.