Most music product, vinyl, CDs, cassettes, is manufactured in the EU. Physical product is already costing more with the falling pound but will be even more expensive post Brexit. I’m hoping to buy the Abbey Road box set before the sh*t really hits the fan.
Downloads will also rise in price. The pound now isn’t worth the 99p tracks are priced at.
Streaming is unbelievably cheap at the moment but that is not sustainable in the medium and long term. Streaming firms all lose money hand over fist.
Live music will also be more expensive. Artists will need permits and all manner of paperwork to transport their equipment, their instruments and themselves to and from the UK, boosting the price.
Best to batten down the hatches and just enjoy the record collections we’ve already accumulated.
It will be a big boost to pirating culture.
A’rrrr, that it will, Jim lad…..
The movement of equipment for live shows is a potential problem. I used to work on European roadshows when a carnet was needed for everything. Once the carnet was created (a list of every item on the truck, complete with value and serial number, had to be submitted to the London carnet office), drive to Dover, queue at carnet office to get it validated, ferry to Calais, queue at carnet office to get carnet stamped and relevant page submitted, repeat at every border and hope the customs officials don’t want to see a particular item which could be at the front of the truck. Anyone who says it’s just paperwork hasn’t had to deal with it. Of course, computers will make it easier than it was and it may be that within the EU, there will only be one border but it’s still a major pain in the arse, adding time and cost to shows.
Interesting article here which backs up Mr BigPic’s info.
https://louderthanwar.com/no-deal-brexit-mean-touring-uk-bands/?fbclid=IwAR1Fzus8Q9WTzYepKXfwzAPpC-dJHJ3mzwYDdKtmoy0oCAKqlFa77Xxc5lw#.XUqW4XBwzgQ.twitter
Similar thing used to be a major problem in the forms of motor-racing which toured around Europe and the rest of the world, when each team ran its own independent tour. I’d imagine this is less of a problem now that F1 operates a sort-of collective freighting operation, but in the past lead to all manner of – ahh, creative – work, with written-off cars swapping identities with sound ones, fuel being smuggled, etc.
Happy days. (joke)
Human nature being what it is – prices will go up because it can be pinned on Brexit. Even if there is no other reason to. Market forces innit.
Market forces should push new CD prices up (rarity) but new vinyl should come down (mass production). Streaming will get more expensive because of market forces. As more and more music is consumed via streaming, firms like Spotify will capture the consumer and be able to increase price to more closely cover their costs. Advertising doesn’t cover it.
Market Forces will push prices up but when there is a downturn in sales of concert tickets/cd’s and vinyl those same market forces will reduce the prices again.
Most of the artists I would pay to see are from the USA and wont be affected by any of the disputes between the UK and the EU. In fact I was at a business meeting with some govt officials two weeks ago and it is clear that planning and discussions for a free trade deal with the USA are more advanced than we think they are.
I still have a strong preference to remain part of the EU but don’t subscribe to the doom and gloom that is being trotted out. I sincerely hope I am right, maybe it is blind optimism. We will have to wait and see.
All CDs imported from the USA will have been chlorinated as they left the elysian fields of Trumpton, and visiting musicians will need to have been genetically modified before they can cross any borders. Bloke in the pub told me so. Must be true.
Further, all British musicians will be sold to the Pentagon. If North Korea gives us any shit, they’ll get Richard Thompson fired at them.
Cant see Kim Il Jong relishing Richard Thompson shooting out his lights.
I agree. he’ll get calvary cross
Ripping YouTube clips of their audio is easy enough. Listening to all that stuff we haven’t got round to (and reading and watching likewise) will, in my case, probably never be possible in the next 20 years i expect to live before it becomes unpredictable. If you have a cassette recorder at the back of the garage or attic, we can easily go back to sharing C90s – I’ve got some corkers. Charity shops, revisiting old tunes: this does not particularly worry me. But if people want me to go to gigs much more, they better ensure chairs and sightlines.
….and the absence of loud drunken arseholes farting about with their phones. And the moon on a stick.
If ripping the audio from YouTube clips becomes a problem for the industry, they’ll start putting the f***ing adverts in the middle of the songs as well as at the start and end.
Other members of the massive may be like me; even if I never buy another CD or LP, I think it would take me the rest of my life to listen to everything I already have only once.
Indeed….although this doesn’t seem to stop me accumulating…..
Same here. A friend says ‘it’s not about need, it’s about want’.
It’s difficult to give up a lifetime’s habit. I have a ‘need’ to *own* music, even if I barely listen to it. Now, I just have a load of stuff my children don’t value and don’t understand.
I better start listening to it all.
Ownership is part of the attraction (not as great as the content, but certainly a draw to own physical artefacts).
Plus the need to display them like a hunter standing before his latest success.
I have no *need* to own stuff, it’s just what I do
I have now stopped accumulating.
The odd purchase of a CD will only happen in a Supermarket. I recently bought the Fleetwood Mac 2 CD 50 year celebration compilation for £5 in Sainsbury’s as an impulse buy.
Better value and longer lasting than a cheap bottle of red wine!
And less likely to leave you with a nasty headache.
@fitterstoke
Was that you on the Steve Hoffman forum commenting on Catherine Wheel?
Hello @Freddy-Steady
Not me….some git on a rival forum has nicked my persona!!!
@fitterstoke
That’s a bit weird isn’t it??
Most odd – I don’t frequent the Steve Hoffman forum myself, unless someone on here recommends looking at something specific….
I’m off to check my credit card statements, to see if the imposter Stoke has been buying hi-fi on my tab…..
I’ve got all the records I need now thanks.
Me too, but it’s never stopped me buying another one
Potentially less choice in the live acts to be seen around.
For instance. A recent guest artiste at the pub jazz club I go to was Brazilian guitarist/singer Edmundo Carneiro. Not long before, the guest was another Brazilian, singer Monica Vasconcelos with her Brazilian guitarist accompanying. For both gigs the bassist was a chap from Uruguay. There was a really good sax player from Finland guesting a few months ago and a couple of amazing guitarists at different times in the past year, one of them Polish and the other one Swiss. The next guest there is an Austrian pianist.
A lot of these non-Brit musicians I’ve mentioned are currently based in London, but who knows what their status will be after Brexit Day, given the hard-right takeover of our government that has just occurred.
Womad has already had trouble getting musicians visas, according to Beeb news.