Interesting old/usual discussion over on our “sister site’, I know seen by many of those who keep an eye on both camps. Starting off with a request/roll call for the AW names of the FB posters, as a reminder, so in too has snuck the reasons why those who left here, never to return, had done so, raising the boring and the divisive as reasons. Sure, that’s fine, but having 2 “rival” versions, one there, one here, isn’t that divisive? And by spreading the content, doesn’t that dilute also the worth of either? Somehow seems daft. I understand/understood the point of a presence on FB in the great drupal fiasco of whenever, and it can still be handy for alerting other outages.
Just saying, as I said over there……….
Afterworders on Facebook
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I couldn’t cope with the same people in two places with different names, plus I decided to limit FB to family and people I actually know as in see in person plus musical pals. Plus I prefer it here.
I do keep an eye on both, but am only active on here – basically as I don’t like posting anything on FB (seems that the whole world can see those rather than the exclusive bunch that gist here…..).
I only really use FB for updates on stuff that has no other active channels (a good example being the Big Big Train group, where the groups members actually post stuff).
Much prefer here.
I haven’t read the fb post mentioned, will do later. Generally I like to keep my two online worlds separate; easier that way. Plus my friends and family are nearly all civilians. They woudn’t understand this side. If I post at all on the AW FB group it’s probably “quickie” stuff, like a photo or a joke, that would be unlikely to elicit much reaction or conversation but might be of passing interest to some.
I would rather review Michael Bolton albums than post anything on FarceBerk.
Howwwww is it suppoooooosed to live withoooooouuut you?
The problem with the boring/divisive thing is that it’s considered divisive to suggest it’s boring. Dunno how you get round that to be honest.
By counterstating that it’s boring to suggest it’s divisive, obvs.
The “boring” thing simmers my piss. It’s like my teenagers whining that they’re bored when on holiday in the Cairngorms and can’t pick up WiFi
If you want the AW to be less boring, stop moaning and post something of interest!
I avoid the Cairngorms because of its lack of wi-fi.
Are we nearly there yet?
And stop kicking your sister. Don’t think I can’t see you. This mirror means I can see behind me as well, you know!
Exactly – I don’t use any social media so I don’t know what’s on the FB page. However, it seems odd to me to want to be on one version of the site while not wanting to be on the other …to reiterate the post above, if you find it boring here feel free to post something interesting or thought provoking rather than moaning about it.
Yeah it gets on my nerves as well. What really annoyed me was one particular user who previously flounced in a most dramatic way, stuck his head briefly back in (sometime last year i think) just to say, “Oh i see you are all still boring!” then flounced off again.
I’m pleased i resisted the urge to respond. Which I suppose is the correct thing. Don’t feed the trolls, and all that.
Where do they all go, these former contributors who no longer even lurk around these parts? If there is another place like this but better, I’d like to know about it so I can leave as well 🙂
The Cairngormes, apparently.
Don’t find this site at all boring – nor do I feel any need to visit the AW site on Facebbok.
Those who want to engage would be on here surely with the exception of the proper flouncers.
I post on both, the things I send on fejsbok are more based on other’s works, what I post on the afterword is mostly based on personal réflexions, “what if?” Or “I don’t get it, do you?” I am close to Proust’s questionnary, it’s supposed to drag me from boredom and sometimes I am not alone with that, when it happens, I have to fight harder to answer everyone as the blog is not as practicle as fb.
It’s such a shame we lost all that stuff in 2014-15, because we could use it to pinpoint exactly when it all started to go downhill.
Using FB for anything other than the AW depresses me within seconds, and even there you get trolling, because it’s Facebook and that’s what it’s for.
Monetising both neediness and nastiness has to be the greatest business idea in the history of the Universe. Neither resource will ever run out.
I used to post on the original Word Blog. I joined the original incarnation of the Afterword but rarely (if ever posted) and then decided to come back after years in the wilderness.
I’ve clearly accelerated this blog’s demise and I can only apologise.
Dude, I started posting on the old Word blog in 2011 after years of lurking, and the magazine collapsed about 6 months later. You’re welcome!
You think that’s bad. I worked for Safeway in 2004 shortly before they went bust. Virgin Megastore’ collapse coincided with me working at HMV. Come to think of it, HMV hasn’t done too well lately either.
I am but a curse.
I like the FB Afterworders group because I can easily post silly music-related memes and images that are no longer so possible on here.
On here, I feel like I’ve got to have something significant or considered prepared before I post and frankly I’m not that knowledgeable about or deeply focused on music most of the time and I don’t keep up with the cultural frontline in any media.
I’m a bit in a rut with Facebook at the moment, actually. Having realized that the interesting posts on my newsfeed are long form articles, I’ve discovered the news aggregator, Feedly – which makes me feel a bit more in control of what I read.
That’s a good point, it would be nice to be able to post certain content more easily on here. I don’t know why we can’t, no doubt there are good reasons, but it seems a little archaic
My thoughts exactly Sal, I see something that amuses me and I share it, to me that’s what Facebook is good at.
This is pretty much a limitation of the WordPress-based back end (OOh err, Missus) that we use for the Afterword site.
Although it wasn’t designed that way and isn’t “run” by the site (Not that we really “run” this one either), the Facebook page is presumably ideal for quick and dirty posts that might get lost on the main blog.
If you’re into it and don’t mind checking two different places then go for it.
Yes I use the AW on FB site for silly pictures, cos it’s so easy to do there.
Here is best for me but I have no problem with the having two sites
Yes listing pictures is a faff, possible with Imgur but it’s pretty shit. I wish we had our own hosting capability but I have no idea how you do that.
“I don’t keep up with the cultural frontline in any media”
AfterWord T-Shirt.
I am 49 (for now)
My first AW T-Shirt! Hurrah!
I feel (almost) like getting it printed – with your last line on the back (slightly adjusted for inflation).
Pretty much my prime usage of the FB Group – posting daft pictures and comments that I have found to be amusing, but no-one outside of my music-nerdy world would get
Yes, not much activity on FB by Afterworders, as above mostly people posting a video or something with a caption. Not much discussion. Not really a rival place at all.
I like both. FB is good for transient frivols – funnies (Mousey is good at this) and other trivia. No matter what anybody says, I find it a bit anxious-making wondering if something I’m inclined to post on here is worth anybody’s time (my last 4 threads have all got 18 comments – I’m nothing if not consistent). So I just bung it on FB if I think it’ll interest/amuse anybody.
If I had a quid for every site’s-not-what-it-was discussion we’ve had I’d have about a tenner, I reckon. But still it goes on – people leave (and return), new people arrive, people suddenly awake from a deep sleep. The site’s certainly not what it was when I was getting into regular political rows and being accused of virtue-signalling, that’s for sure…
“The site’s certainly not what it was when I was getting into regular political rows and being accused of virtue-signalling, that’s for sure…”
Oh how you must miss those days.
Indeed… 🙂
I miss all that. The Wolfie Smith polemic, the exasperation of the few centre-right posters, the strawmanning and whataboutery, the fake outrage, the moral oneupmanship, the pile-ons, the pretend flounces, the parallel commentary on Facebook… it was hilarious. We all agree far too much these days.
I always found those threads entertaining too. However, there were certain individuals who displayed a nasty streak, bullying even. I wonder if that has contributed to a flight to Facebook. Thankfully, those people seem to have gone elsewhere. It’s just sad that some of the Facebookers haven’t come back now The Afterword is a kinder place.
It would help if we could post pictures more easily.
Well they don’t have Edith as an excuse any more.
I didn’t find them entertaining. I flounced twice, utterly miserable at my inability to penetrate the hides of some of the more doctrinaire among us. Who would of course still be accusing me of being doctrinaire.
Overall, I feel we are better off without them.
I am outrage with doctrinaires and Cairngorms wi-fi.
I aM OFF.
Me too. I had two long breaks as I just couldn’t be in the same bit of the internet as some of those people. No names, no pack drill.
My thoughts entirely.
You never know what’s going to fire here though. Post away. I’ve had total clunkers and some of the longest threads ever. And no idea why!
Yeah i agree. I used to lurk shyly and now dont feel any shame in posting a ‘boring’ thread, even if I only get a couple of replies.
Thanks all for the correct responses. Apropos those who left so far back that it was all in sepia, yet still cling resolutely to the fb lifeboat, come on back in, the water is warmer than the Cairngorms. Surprise yourselves and entertain us laggards. And Lodey? Please yersel but you’ve missed some corking reviews. 😘
Yes. I miss @Lodestone-of-Wrongness, too. Even the negative comments created interest.
Come back, Lodey. All is forgiven, whatever it is you think you did.
After all I’ve been through do you actually think that a few kind words from Tiggs and Retro2 will drag me back here? All the pain, all the agony, all the…oh, go on then.
I walked away from the AW whistling “Fings ain’t what they used to be” for a number of reasons, the main one of which was Boredom. Several have already commented that if it’s so boring then why don’t you post something interesting. This completely misses the point. Most of us on here, not all by any means but most nonetheless, are mere foot soldiers. Most of us can come up with a witty or a pertinent riposte, most of us when pushed can review something that has tickled our fancy but most of us are not Burt or Mojo or Pencilsqueezer or Fauxgeordie or… the list goes on and on.
The thread that really sealed it for me, and honestly no disrespect to Pizon Bros, was the well-over-a-thousand-comments “Guess the album “ one. Yes everybody, I’ll say “Fifty naked ladies” and you’ll say “Jimi Hendrix”. As the bard once said “Help ma boab”.
And as for lists all I can say is ***** ****** **** and go bile yer heid.
And as for Bargepole Reviews all I can say is – well actually I’ve said all that before. No more cursing the darkness for me.
There are many splendid chaps, and a few chapesses, on here but let’s face it Fings really ain’t what they used to be.
ps Western Stars is officially the Album of 2019
Gah! See what you’ve done now, you poor blind fools!
Yebbut I never even opened that thread cozit held no interest so it mattered nothing whether others were happy to play along. Some of those posters, incredible as it seems, may have been bored by our discussion on the minutiae of the Rolling Thunder Revue. Btw I think the first tour is overrated compared the harder rockin more electric second tour.
By dividing the posting population into foot soldiers and those who create the more desireable content, you absolve yourself and the rest of the 2nd tier of responsibility to balance out what they don’t like with something that they do. Not buying it mate.
All I’m saying is that the AW has lost a huge swathe of its star posters and is all the worse for it. And Junior is, as usual, correct re Rolling Thunder
OK I’ll bite cos I’m bored. Who were the star posters (not sure how many make a huge swathe) and why did they leave? Was it us boring civilians fault?
One man’s ‘star poster’ is of course another man’s pain in the backside, depending on what you like. Certainly there are posters I’d like to see return, but there are also those I personally don’t miss at all.
The very notion of “star posters” is cacklesome. I mean seriously… grow up. And this is me saying it.
Grow up? Fuck right off and my brother just shagged your sister.
And seriously if you don’t think that back in the day there was a core of brilliant commentators that drove the site along most of whom have left then, I don’t know, you must live in Hull
My sister’s been dead since 2012, so that doesn’t say much for your brother.
He says he detected a pulse and I believe him. Now fuck off
Ashes with a pulse?
Wow, we really do live a post-scientific age.
He said it was great if a little dusty. Much much better than when he shagged you
Jesus Christ, Lodestone.
Perhaps it’s best you’ve gone.
*Have* you gone?
Lodestone says: “the AW has lost a huge swathe of its star posters and is all the worse for it.”
“Star Posters”!!!! That’s fucking hilarious! What Star posters?! The Afterword has seen ’em come and go, I reckon it has got a life of it’s own and it’s bigger than all of us – no Star System here – check yr ego in at the door.
Amen.
Fortuneight is right here, Lodes – there’s no first and second tier posters. Anyone can come up with an interesting and engaging topic, it just takes a bit of time and effort – but why would you bother, when the people who appreciate that kind of thing have been driven away by endless repetitions of ‘Your Top Three Musicians Who Wear Hats’ or whatever.
But then everyone’s experience is different. Of those four ex-posters you mention, I’d say one was a brilliant artists, one was very funny, one was quite possibly the most boring person that ever lived, and one was a nasty manipulative troll. But you’d never guess which one was which.
I bet I can guess.
See above
Well three of those I liked a lot and one I just found ridiculous. My ire is directed in a different place all together. But I agree the three I didn’t mention would be welcome any time. The other can fuck off (as he told me to do once).
Here we go. It’s the summer – that would be a navel-gazing thread then.
Whilst this is far from a scientific, or even an evidence-based conclusion, it seems to me that most “high-posting” contributors who disappear from the site (and that’s both temporarily or long-term) usually, if they comment, claim to do so because they are bored or similar when in reality you can trace it back to some real or imagined slight/argument/feeling on the wrong end of an opinion shortly before they go.
My personal view has always been “it’s the internet, get over it and get over yourself”
Still the nicest place online (mostly).
The hats thing is a brilliant idea. I’ll go for Tom Petty, Rickie Lee Jones and and Richard Thompson (I’m assuming berets count)….
Beret, beret, sighs………(He hasn’t been paying attention, has he? I don’t know what H. M. Bateman would have to say/draw about that, harrumph!!)
I’ll get my titfer…..
As it was yours truly who started a hat thread I thought I’d share a link to it.
No top three hat wearing musicians alas.
phew, it wasn’t just me then
@Lodestone of Wrongness now you made me understand that this thread of mine bothered you and if I had knew that it would have made you leaving the group, I would have started it nevertheless because it lead the members of the group to search in their minds their own record-collection, not by sound but by cover art and many times, they chosed the records that they prefered and that they wished others knew and it worked pretty well. It is not perfect journalism, but replying “TLDR” as one of the writers you prefer did is not very creative either. I had just a look at one of mine last of “The Word Magazine”, there were not only deep articles about musical phemomenon, there were also lists of bad and good kind of amything (singers in this one), 99 percent true, etc… Don’t look down on lighter threads, we need that also,
Ah, my apologies. I thought you were asking people to look through their record collection (still not quite sure what that means) and then ask other people to guess what they were looking at. Sorry ’bout that.
Isn’t it time Pizon my boy you dropped the faux accent ? C’mon down Bri, welcome back!
Completely off track there, Lodey. I have met Pizon a few times here in Stockholm where we both live and he is as French as the Eiffel Tower.
Oddly enough, our first meeting came about as a result of the FB page. I was browsing in a Sally Army ship on Götgatan when out of the blue, a bloke came up
To me and said “You are Kaisfatdad”!
I was utterly bowled over
Salvation Navy Shirley?
Can someone posted the link to the AW FB page? The one I have only has a post from last year? I’m aware there will be an obvious explanation…..
https://www.facebook.com/groups/560037587460511/
It’s a closed group, so I don’t know how much you will see without joining.
Thanks. Request sent. This is the one I had…
https://m.facebook.com/TheAfterword/?tsid=0.7362198144392207&source=result
I’ve been accepted which is nice.
All downhill from here.
For anyone who doesn’t know why we have a presence on Facebook, I created the FB page in the era of the Great Blackout when the mother site was out of action for several months. Nobody really knew whether the AW would return. It was a lifeboat and we were a group of post-apocalyptic survivors huddled around a campfire fuelled by titbits of flotsam and jetsam frivolity.
When the site did return, the sensible thing would have been for me to close the FB page down. But Mousey and others were posting so many small entertaining titbits which didn’t really belong here that brightened my day a lot, so I just let it be.
It is not a place for discussions, reviews etc or anything else that makes this site so great, To compare the two is like a comparison between a Brownie Pack notice board and the contents of Hansard. One deals with the trivial pursuits of giggly girlies; the other with the magnificent oratory, high-minded thoughts and breath-taking visions of the admirable statesmen and women who rule our country.
The Afterword is a savannah where majestic prides of lions roam. The AW on FB is a meercat warren where small, cute beasties scurry around and pick each other’s nits.
Parliament’s more like a Brownie Pack these days, only without the nuanced sophistication you find in a Brownie Pack.
My views are set out on the afterwod facebook page. There are a lot of duplicates and a few still have the shits over something or other. Or they have just moved on to something or other.
Parliament is still going? Good to know George Clinton is keeping busy.
He has been tasting the maggots in the mind of the universe. He was not offended.
He must have had plenty of ketchup.
@Kaisfatdad I don’t feel like a lion in this savannah, more a hyena that revives dead threads, and that’s nice as I enjoy the foul smell of rotten threads in the savannah in the evening.
Out on the road today I saw a dead thread sticker on a cadillac.
Seriously, a sticker that said “ATM: Right-angled steak pies” – how strange.
What I don’t understand is how you all managed to make contact woth each other when this site was down! I remember this happening and I just assumed that was that. It was only years later I discovered there was a facebook group at all, you cliquey devils, you.
To extend your metaphor, I think I missed the lifeboat as I was too busy listening to that string quartet as the boat went down.
A campfire on a lifeboat. Asking for trouble, weren’t we..
That is a very good point, Arthur. When the site crashed, I think I had contact in the real world with perhaps two or three people: Hannah ( as admin), mikethep (who I had realised I had a family connection with) and perhaps RubyBlue and Mousey. I knew Gary lived in Monopoli. Very useful!
Of course I knew DuCool in the real world and he helped me:”There is a Woman of Mystery called Locust who, the legend goes, lives in Vasastaden. Maybe she can help you on your Quest to locate the Lost Ones.” I wandered the streets of Stockholm asking random mysterious women:”Are you Locust”
It was probably thanks to Hannah that I managed to gradually find people in the darkness of the Great Blackout.
Of course I knew DuCool in the real world and he helped me:”There is a Woman of Mystery called Locust who, the legend goes, lives in Vasastaden. Maybe she can help you on your Quest to locate the Lost Ones.” I wandered the streets of Stockholm asking random mysterious women:”Are you Locust”
Worst. Cover story. Ever.
Are You Locust? Dir Lasse Hallström (2019): A middle-aged Englishman, lost and confused in the mean streets of Stockholm, has 24 hours to track down the mysterious woman who can help him compile his list of North Korean Free Jazz Harpsichordists. Starring Benny from Abba as Kaisfatdad and the voice of Bill Murray as his imaginary friend DuCool.
Kim Pling Plong.
Kim Song Sing.
Kim Long So Lo.
Kim McLaughlin.
Those are all the North Korean Free Jazz harpsichordists I can remember on the spot. But I don’t have Facebook. 🙂
You forgot Kim Song Blue.
You really should not give away your ideas, Chiz. I have now sold the idea of Are you Locust? to Trollywood (Trollhattan) and received a rather generous advance.
The cream of Scando acting talent is queuing up to play the mysterious Madame Locust. Noomi Rapace, Sofia Helin, Alicia Wikander…..
But I promise to mention you in my Oscars’ acceptance speech for Best Screenplay
So, Locust is from Vasastan? With its stadsmission rock pop oriented , second-hand vinyl shops everywhere and a librairy that ones would mistake with the martello tower depicted in Ulysses, it is very strategic place for an afterworder.
Yes, but I was a Vasastanit before I became an Afterworder, even before I became a Worder. 🙂
I think there was also a link placed on the “Sorry, it’s f**ked” screen if you tried to access the Afterword site.
Pretty sure that’s how I found the lifeboat when the Pub burned down
“The Afterword’s what you make it” as I’m sure Mark Hollis said.
Yesterday’s favourite
(unless it’s Strawberry Fields)
For those of you who decry Facebook, I’d urge you to give it another go.
My advice would be…
One. Don’t browse it on a smartphone. The temptation is too great to just keep checking your news feed (which is always total rubbish) and you just get fatigued by it.
Two. Bypass the news feed entirely and just join or set up private groups. It’s still a brilliant medium for shortform comments and discussions, and sharing stuff like music from youtube or film trailers. I’ve got a couple of music and movie discussion groups with a small number of close friends and family. Plus I’m on Mike Oldfield’s fan group and that’s great for geek-level discussions (and a real thrill when the Great One himself drops by to start a discussion).
Bypass the news feed
Bypass the news feed
Bypass the news feed
Dance!
Dance!
DUMMMMMMMMMM
….frightfully sorry…
Yep. The Facebook smartphone app is apallingly bad. Even going direct to the website is awful on a smartphone.
It’s early summer – the usual time for one of these “this place aint what it was discussions”
There’s still plenty going on – and there’s nowt wrong with a good list.
Where else on tinterweb can I go to discuss Jam B Sides, the trimming of Tommy to a single album, the minutiae of bad chord changes, whether Danny Baker is a racist, secure a spare ticket for Nick Lowe, have a collective moan about Record Store Day, and drop a few knob gags for the sake of it?
The knob gags have a place on FB, but the rest might require a few more characters and (as sometimes happens) a developing conversation.
FB for quick statements and funnies. On here for the detail – I’m staying whether you want me to or not
So there are people on the Facebook page still, who flounced from here? Interesting
Has anybody flounced from Facebook and joined the Afterworders at the Working Mens Club group?
Aye appen.
Pies ‘ave arrived!
None of the full on flouncers as far as I know. Just a number of people that stopped posting here.
Bet those who post neither here nor there still lurk…… Hard not to, especially if awaiting a call or a mention.
I made the effort to look back in time at the original Word blog for a some threads that made me laugh
Band Expressed in Percentage Terms – http://web.archive.org/web/20110222073734/http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/bands-expressed-percentage-terms
Rock Acronyms –
http://web.archive.org/web/20120503192644/http://wordmagazine.co.uk/content/rock-acronyms
This Whole Clique Thing (just to show that people complained about the standard(s) of that blog too)
http://web.archive.org/web/20110710011701/http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/this-whole-clique-thing
Anybody would think that the Afterword was dominated be people who instinctively think that things aren’t as good as they used to be.
Fuck me, it’s like that arcade game where you whack moles with a mallet . Any chance you can fuck right off? By the way, is it true you and Mini once had a “Big Mac” together?
I would do, but as in your own example, even fucking off isn’t what it used to be.
PS. a very peppery gherkin, since you ask.
My arm is tired, my mallet is worn out. Thanks for the fish. Been a blast – like to thank Tiggs for asking me back, Serena cos she’s got a big serve and that nice lady at the boulangerie for everything she does for me each morning at 730. See you for the end of year poll when we get to see who finishes second to Brooce..
I don’t expect we’ll be having the end of year poll in August. This isn’t The Quietus, you know.
Jeepers, that viognier packs a bigger punch than you’d think, both from the price and the vintage. Memo to Lodestone: tastes better chilled.
Well my name is Dougie Jones. You can find me on Facebook with a *cough* moody black and white profile pic, should you so wish. I am also a fairly recent member of the Nick Lowe Fan Club fb group. Long time admirer of Nick – recent borderline obsessive. Reminds me of my younger days when I was a Jam fan, then TSC, then solo Weller, in the sense that I became obsessed not only with their own music but their influences. Weller spoke to me as an adolescent in a Scottish new town in the late 70s / early 80s and Nick Lowe has an equal effect on me as a divorced 50-something. The great think about NL though is that I can enjoy his whole body of work from hippie to new wave to rock’n’roll to country to introspection to………and move between eras depending on mood.
I was certainly one of the centre right AW posters that Chiz mentioned above, and I do still contribute to (though rarely instigate) political/sociocultural posts from time to time. But I’ve come to realise that I do so largely for the sheer pleasure in composing a response more than any burning zeal to change people’s minds.
Very sensible. Especially with regard to Nick Lowe.
👍
The site seems fine to me and still doing what it was born to do. No shortage of posts, new members joining, I’m still enjoying it. I’m not interested in fights, I wanna talk music and stuff with fellow obsessives. It’s much easier without trolls, pointless fights and bile – all of that is available on the entire internet and if you wanna fight there is Twitter where you can bare knuckle with Presidents, armchair fascists, terrorists and Daily Mail readers till your eyeballs bleed if that gets yer rocks off. This site has been a refuge from all that, here’s to being “boring”
Well said good Doctor.
And thanks for my, probably, first hamper!!!
I remember when I first came across this blog. It was on Saturday 6th July 1957 at the garden fete of St. Peter’s Church, Woolton – a nice little places towards the outskirts of Liverpool. There was this one blogger who I guess was a star poster, and another (younger) blogger who posted left-handed, and knew how to start threads about ’20-Flight Rock’. A few months later they got another blogger on board – this one had memorised a thread about ‘Raunchy’.
The blog ended up in Hamburg in the early 1960s. It wasn’t very good then and the owner of the club kept shouting ‘Mach Thread!, Mach Thread!’ So they did. They kept threads going for weeks by repeating the same posts or making lists. Once the blog appeared on stage with a toilet seat around its neck, goose-stepping.
When the blog came back to Liverpool, the locals thought they were German. It turns out somebody had just been tampering with the language settings in the background. It appeared at the Cavern on Mathew Street almost daily across the next two years. Then the blog got signed to EMI/Parlophone and Afterwordmania happened, it conquered America, smoked pot/took LSD, grew moustaches etc.
The catalyst for the blog’s downfall was arguably the idea to have a Magical Mystery Thread – where somebody started a thread with no idea what it was about or where it was supposed to go. Then it went to Rishikesh and everyone returned to create threads of their own, and nobody really wanted to post on anybody else’s. Then somebody thought it would be a good idea to let a crew film them creating threads, posting comments etc. That didn’t go too well either, even when they did it on the roof of the Afterword Studios.
The genius of this brilliant post is that I want to know what happens next.
Can’t you tell? It’s by that Japanese person…
Knighthoods all round? Or maybe just for the star posters. And those not shot.
Ono!