That’s an interesting article. The odd thing about it is the continued reference to £73,000 being raised for a lobbying campaign. You’d need a lot more than that for an effective lobbying campaign.
I think touts/scalpers are getting kind of old hat, Ticketmaster themselves scalp people with things like “platinum” tickets which is disgusting They also encourage people to resell on their platform because they get the fees twice. Sometimes the likes of StubHub end up being cheaper. I have bought tickets on StubHub sometimes for much reduced prices, the trick is to wait until the last moment.
Touts/Scalpers used to work the same way. If you had the balls to wait until 5 minutes after a show had started and sellers were left with tickets they were desperate to get shot of, you could often get in for cost or less than cost.
Problem is I live in rural Ireland and going up to Dublin for gigs necessitates a stay in a hotel (if you think touts are bad, you should see the prices Dublin hotels charge!)
Best bet seems to be fan-to-fan services like Toutless – think the nearest UK equivalent is Twickets
Its interesting and clear that they are all in cahoots.
Recently saw Springsteen in Cardiff. I thought i had bought the tickets from Viagogo until about 4 days before the gig i was contacted by an individual in Liverpool who wanted my contact details so that he could send me the tickets.
‘I haven’t bought any tickets from you, I bought from Viagogo’.
‘No I bought from Viagogo and am selling them to you now through their site’
How much more have Viagogo made from the transaction?
There is no price shown on the digital ticket so who knows.
Another example of daylight robbery.
I did sort of enjoy the fact they had to spend £169 esch to attend. I wondered what the face value of the ticket was as well.
On a serious note, the ticketing market is broken. It is abused by multinationals and chancers alike entirely for the pursuit of profit. If it were any other good or service, there would have been itervention years ago. I am all for the idea of legislation trying to sort this out.
I’m a small ‘l’ liberal kind and can understand the idea of supply and demand, self regulation, etc. But sometimes the system becomes broken and needs The Law to provide a reset. This is one of those times.
Steve Walsh says
That’s an interesting article. The odd thing about it is the continued reference to £73,000 being raised for a lobbying campaign. You’d need a lot more than that for an effective lobbying campaign.
Leedsboy says
You’d need a lot more than that for a Taylor Swift ticket as well.
dai says
I think touts/scalpers are getting kind of old hat, Ticketmaster themselves scalp people with things like “platinum” tickets which is disgusting They also encourage people to resell on their platform because they get the fees twice. Sometimes the likes of StubHub end up being cheaper. I have bought tickets on StubHub sometimes for much reduced prices, the trick is to wait until the last moment.
Jaygee says
Pretty much agree with what D says.
Touts/Scalpers used to work the same way. If you had the balls to wait until 5 minutes after a show had started and sellers were left with tickets they were desperate to get shot of, you could often get in for cost or less than cost.
Problem is I live in rural Ireland and going up to Dublin for gigs necessitates a stay in a hotel (if you think touts are bad, you should see the prices Dublin hotels charge!)
Best bet seems to be fan-to-fan services like Toutless – think the nearest UK equivalent is Twickets
SteveT says
Its interesting and clear that they are all in cahoots.
Recently saw Springsteen in Cardiff. I thought i had bought the tickets from Viagogo until about 4 days before the gig i was contacted by an individual in Liverpool who wanted my contact details so that he could send me the tickets.
‘I haven’t bought any tickets from you, I bought from Viagogo’.
‘No I bought from Viagogo and am selling them to you now through their site’
How much more have Viagogo made from the transaction?
There is no price shown on the digital ticket so who knows.
Another example of daylight robbery.
Leedsboy says
Viagogo is designed to sell the same ticket several times. It’s basically the stock market where tickets have replaced shares.
Leedsboy says
I did sort of enjoy the fact they had to spend £169 esch to attend. I wondered what the face value of the ticket was as well.
On a serious note, the ticketing market is broken. It is abused by multinationals and chancers alike entirely for the pursuit of profit. If it were any other good or service, there would have been itervention years ago. I am all for the idea of legislation trying to sort this out.
fentonsteve says
Great minds, etc, as that was my exact thought.
I’m a small ‘l’ liberal kind and can understand the idea of supply and demand, self regulation, etc. But sometimes the system becomes broken and needs The Law to provide a reset. This is one of those times.
Cookieboy says