A story in the paper yesterday that a mother has contacted her 6 year old sons school and asked them to stop showing the Sleeping Beauty film to the kids because it condones sexual advances on sleeping ladies without their consent.
Seriously what the fuck is happening to our society.
Holier than thou pious crap of the highest order.
What next banning Jack and the Beanstalk because the Giant is racist to Englishmen?
But it’s not really a reflection of society though. It’s just one woman being silly and the tabloids (I assume) reporting it cos they love ridiculing any notion of “political correctness”. It shouldn’t have made the news and it isn’t representative of what so-called political correctness is about. The British tabloids are appalling. Self righteous, incompetent and hypocritical.
This ☝️
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Double this.
Also consider the reason for publishing such a story. Who’s helped by media outlets developing a narrative that goes “oh these silly little women and their politically correct sexual Puritanism”? You can’t say anything these days! Cuh!
Not fair to pin this entirely on the evil tabloids – here’s a Guardian think-piece from yesterday explaining the link between Sleeping Beauty and rape culture.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/27/sexual-assault-sleeping-beauty-fairytales-ban-gender-rape
Well, Steve, firstly it’s not the/a film, it’s a Biff, Chip and Kipper book, so within your first sentence you’ve already compounded an untruth. After that, anything you say needs to be viewed through the same filter. Another part of the story that hasn’t been afforded the same attention is the (quote) “I don’t think taking Sleeping Beauty books out of circulation completely would be right. I actually think it would be a great resource for older children.” which I’ve part-quoted out of context just to show you how easily it can be done. Personally, I think all B,C&K books should be banned, mainly because they’re bloody awful.
@Skirky I didn’t see the story in the national Tabloids but in a London paper and it was reported as being the film not the book. Either way it is irrelevant as the core of the articarticle is that Sleeping Beauty is not an acceptable story for kids. I agree that she went on to suggest that it was acceptable for older kids – personally I think that is a facile argument – the point she reasons is that it is non consensual advances to a sleeping woman. Is a 6 year old really going to read something into that? I very much doubt it.
And in answer to @DisappointmentBob and his totally predictable claptrap it made no difference to me whatsoever if the comment was made by a father or by a mother but he so obviously of the mind that this is a vendetta against women as to render his arguments as ridiculous as those made in the first instance.
You really don’t think quite a lot of powerful (and handsy) men would be delighted to see a backlash against the recent climate of sexual assault disclosures, helped by stories like this running in the media? I’m not sure you actually read my “totally predictable claptrap”, but rather just assumed that I was saying what you wanted me to be saying. Either way – perhaps we might say totally predictably – you didn’t seem to understand my post.
Oh I understood your point Bob and it is bollox
Imagine my surprise.
“Oh, whether it’s true or not is irrelevant…”
This is how it starts.
It’s true or not? Who cares?
Misquoted @Skirky – if it was the book that was offensive or if it was the film that offensive is what I said was irrelevant. Not the argument being made.
Maybe all fairy tales should be banned. There’s the one where a woman is forced into domestic servitude by seven manual labourers; the woman who is held captive by two older siblings; the man who physically assaults a woman by grabbing her hair to gain access to her safe space; and the princess who is bumped off my her father-in-law after she sleeps with an arab.
Yeah but in fairness @chiz The Cure exacted revenge on the Arab.
And then, roight, BUSH and BLAIR had revenge on a whole lot o them from four thousand feet… roight? Yeah!
Worst of all, some bastard white man, probably an ancestor of Donald Trump, killed Bambi’s mum.
To give Steve a break it is indicative of the “it’s everyone elses fault” book of parenting. Don’t deny your child one of the great fairy tales, just be a bloody parent and explain the bits you’re not happy with. Equally trust your child with the sense to work it out.
But children are stupid and think fairy stories are real.
No consideration was given to the thought that had the prince not kissed the princess, she would have been condemned to see out her days in a coma.
Which is worse?
He should have played her a cassette of My Heart Will Go On by Celine Dion.
Luckily the kiss worked, or who knows where it would have ended?
We need more of this in the NHS clearly
I think I speak for many people when I say “I don’t care”.
What a mean-spirited post!
It;s just how I roll, min
That the second time I’ve used this old AW in-joke this week. Both times it was taken at face value.
That’s EXACTLY what a massive racist would say.
What a mean-spirited post!
ATS
TMFTL
Who cares?
We’re in a loop!
Like in Twin Peaks. (Which I was brilliant in.)
I have another question:
Whither Burt?
I think you mean “In which I was brilliant”, Gary.
No, no, I saw the intent but for once I had nothing amusing to come back with which.
Isn’t there a story where a princess kisses a toad? Where do we stand on that one?
On the toad, probably.
It’s a slippery slope…
That’s EXACTLY what a massive racist would say.
While everyone else toad the line?
In the toad’s shoes.
I’m sure that story is inspired by those toads that produce powerful hallucinogenic sweat on their backs.
“Kiss toads, girls…. You might not get a prince but for a few hours you won’t care”
If it was consensual and clear boundaries were established before any physical contact was initiated, then it’s probably okay. However I think it would also need to be agreed that physical affection could be withdrawn if the toad were to, at some point in the future, transition into a man.
In The Stinky Cheese Man the princess kisses the toad. Nothing happens.
“You told me you’d turn into a handsome prince if I kissed you” says the princess.
“I lied” replies the toad, hopping back into his pond.
Fuck’s sake, you lot. It was a FROG.
A frod and a toad? Bloody hell…
This was a refreshing take on the ancient tale:
‘Stop showing Sleeping Beauty to the kids’…? How often were they having this filth thrust at them? Bloody teachers…
Yeah but there was only two of them in the bed – it could have been so much worse.
Roll over!
Roll over!
An immigration lawyer’s take on the ‘Paddington’ film. He’s also demolished the recent sequel.
https://www.freemovement.org.uk/an-immigration-lawyer-reviews-paddington/
Wish my Mum had been so diligent when the Beeb was broadcasting The Singing Ringing Tree – I might not have missed out on a year’s sleep..